Guild Wars 2

Huldrelokk.6598:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Huldrelokk.6598:

They can wait 2 years to see a shining armor with spikes but can’t play WvW to get levels, should be 5k to discourage skin searchers destroying the queue

If they released legendary armor with the expectation that anyone who wants it needs to full clear raids every week for 2 years I would still be here on the forums saying that’s stupid… Because it’s a game…

but the update is a reward to players playing a neglected game mode by years

You THINK thats what it is because you are interpreting it as such. Anet never came out said this reward should not be obtainable for normal players until 2019. Its just people wanting to feel special in a video game… its silly

EDIT: Honest to god truth here…. I have no interest in this armor… If they lowered the requirement I still wouldn’t use it. I think it’s ugly and I think the legendary armor is WORLDS better, not only in looks but also function. With that said, I don’t like this because it scares me with regards to the future of this game. I love this game and I feel that ANY rewards structured like this are a HORRIBLE idea to getting new players and keeping them. I think the back piece, on the other hand, is well done and requires a reasonable amount of effort. That is even legendary to show its value.

Huldrelokk.6598:

They can wait 2 years to see a shining armor with spikes but can’t play WvW to get levels, should be 5k to discourage skin searchers destroying the queue

If they released legendary armor with the expectation that anyone who wants it needs to full clear raids every week for 2 years I would still be here on the forums saying that’s stupid… Because it’s a game…

PabbyGaul.9682:

Its stupid if your used to pve hand outs….

Handout?…. seriously?…… so anything that doesn’t require 2 years of the same game mode is a hand out?….. ok bro….

Mirkava.8526:

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

Mirkava.8526:

And for those players who are saying, WvW is easy, just follow the Zerg and press 1, and get your reward in the end, NO. if it wasnt for those skilled guilds dedicated to WvW with the right Builds, Gears and skills, Leading You guys!, a decent group, with half of the amount of players you have, will wipe you ass all day long, over and over again. let the WvWers leave the game mode for one day only, and see what will happen to you.
Just Learn this game mode, Gear up for it, follow and listen, and have fun, if you dont like wvw, just stick to pve, WE are happy and Proud of it, the way it is. No one is obliged to play a game mode who dislike just to get a fancy gear.
Though I do hope some Pvers will like wvw and stick around even after the event is over.

Well I am a wvwer and a Spvp and a pver, (ive participated in all wvw tournaments, gotten legend in spvp 2x’s and crafted 6 legendaries, without using credit cards) and the requirement for this armor is far beyond anything else in the game except for 30k achievement weapons. You could get any piece of armor or legendaries easier then you can get this set of ascended armor (and I would rather do that. I would rather craft 6 legendaries or get legend in 4 seperate pvp tournaments then grind 2k ranks in pvd, wvw). I have been playing since launch with over 6k hours and played gw1 since launch with GWAMM title, so please stop lumping everyone who dislikes this in the carebear “pve category.” The fact that getting this armor is so unreasonable for a person who has played wvw on and off for the past 5 years makes me think the game is going in the direction of korean grindfest mmo’s. I now feel like I want to quit the game entirely and uninstall it. So i guess if that’s what this was intending, and the community is fine with losing players like me, then there it is.

You said it, you played pve,spvp, and wvw, so it was just a part of the game for you like any other, do you know how many players log on, press B, join a borderland and thats gw2 for them, they do some pve stuff just to get better gear and weapons and thats it. do you know how many players dont even care about the legendary raid armor because they only enjoy wvw, and they have been loyal for years to this game mode? leading and working hard for their guild/server? dont they deserve something unique?
why every is so stressing out on this gear!! how it is fair when you work hard for years to get to platinum and diamond, then someone comes and get the same thing u have in 5 or 6 months? this Tier is made for those players only, so if u do raids and pve and pvp, this is not your gear my friend, you can get the legendary which is even better.
Good day

Nobody forced them to only play WvW. They did that to themselves. There should not be a reward in ANY game that requires new players to focus 2 years of their game time to one mode. That’s ridiculous for ANY game mode. I would say the same kitten thing for ANY reward in ANY game mode. It’s just stupid.

You know what, I concede and now agree with you OP. Anet should probably not cave. I guess I think about rewards as something that anyone can reasonable strive for within a reasonable amount of time. What they made was not a reward for good play. They made a log-in reward for people who chose WvW as their primary game mode and thus felt neglected for years. In reality, there is no reason to be upset about not being able to get the armor if you’re a primarily PVE player. The armor doesn’t look as good as legendary armor, it has NO extra utility like legendary armor, and has no skill barrier like legendary armor does. After reading some more posts and considering it more I can say that I agree that people who haven’t gotten anything cool from WvW for years deserve to have at least something slightly unique to show for it. The good thing is that the legendary back piece is very reasonable to get for anyone who wants to set a goal to attain it. Fully support the cause!

EDIT: I do however feel for the roamers and scouts who haven’t broken 2k yet but still choose to spend the majority of their play time in WvW. That really sucks for you guys and I sympathize. I hope they address it so you can somehow get what you deserve as well.

The reason people haven’t been excited to play since day one is the weak reward system! Now that there are cool rewards people are saying that they should only be available to people who have been playing for YEARS. Ok…. so if there are no cool new rewards then the people who felt it wasn’t a rewarding use of their time to WvW will feel the same way and the game mode will stay dead. But at least you get some shiny particle effects on your non-legendary armor while the mode is dying. Makes sense to me.

schlake.2718:

Zalavaaris.5329:

1 day is hyperbole. It will take years to hit that and I don’t think its healthy game design to add ANY rewards that require years to accomplish. None of us know what stage in our life we will be in within the next year or two. Many players who are currently hardcore may have jobs, kids, and life activities that cause them to quit the game. Goals that take years to accomplish are a big deal. People will put more effort into this armor than many people put into getting their bachelors degree…. How is that good for a game? Make the rewards take 4-6 months for average players to attain and maybe 3-5 weeks for hardcore players. That’s a great balance that would award the hardcore players while still giving a reasonable goal to the average player who is excited about the game mode due to new cool rewards.

In some parts of the world players die at their computers while competing for rewards. In GW2 you get a free virtual butt plug for showing up in virtually every game mode. No skill is required. At least a long time gate ensures a low level of dedication is at least needed. It’s one small step above paying users to claim free rewards.

Is 5 months not enough time to dedicate towards a game mode? I think if you play for 5 months working towards something special you have earned it. That is a huge ask of new players (which is ok). If someone sees someone in Lions Arch using that armor they might say, “woa… cool armor, how do I get it?!”. They will then learn they need to dedicate 4-6 months of their game time working on it. They then go into the game mode as its a long term reward, but reasonable to assume they can attain it. Maybe that person sticks around in the game mode. As it stands now, players who were hardcore from day 1 can have it but it will most likely make new people straight up quit. People have been admitting that there are no cool unique rewards for WvW until now. However, with the requirements as are, there are still no cool unique rewards for people that have not been playing WvW since 2012. That is other than the back piece. I think thats fairly attainable within a 6-month time frame which feels good. I am looking forward to making it myself.

Mirkava.8526:

How is this not fair, we Wvwers work hard for years and rank up, and 1 pver comes in couple of days and gets the same gear as everyone else?! it should be higher, for Platinum and up, let the old experienced players look a bit different with that t3, and you guys still have 2 more tiers that u can get. I really wish they did a tier for every part, from Bronze to Diamond, change in colors and effects or even the look of it.

1 day is hyperbole. It will take years to hit that and I don’t think its healthy game design to add ANY rewards that require years to accomplish. None of us know what stage in our life we will be in within the next year or two. Many players who are currently hardcore may have jobs, kids, and life activities that cause them to quit the game. Goals that take years to accomplish are a big deal. People will put more effort into this armor than many people put into getting their bachelors degree…. How is that good for a game? Make the rewards take 4-6 months for average players to attain and maybe 3-5 weeks for hardcore players. That’s a great balance that would award the hardcore players while still giving a reasonable goal to the average player who is excited about the game mode due to new cool rewards.

Willkilliam.5012:

Keep in mind that its technically easier and takes less time to get legendary armor like what?

You don’t even need to have all of your brain cells fully functional to run around in a blob. Now, if you couldn’t get the rewards from just doing that for 6 months straight I would say it might require some skill. In reality… WvW rewards take time and that is it. I will say though, it takes significantly longer to get WvW rewards than raiding rewards. You can get legendary armor in 12 weeks if you can hang. Nothing I said should be taken as a bash on WvW as I play both game modes. But objectively looking at both modes, as a player of both, it takes much more skill and effort to get raid gear. However, significantly less time (unless you want all 3 sets… then its pretty on par honestly).

GrahamW.5397:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Tifa.6473:

GrahamW.5397:

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

GrahamW.5397:

rank 1500-2000 is fine, god forbid that the players who have stuck it out through almost 5 years get rewarded a bit more than the people just jumping in now for the skins.

really so 360 – 500 hrs of wvw and I’m only 1/8th the way there and that’s “just jumping in”?

I’ve gotten around ~20 ranks since the patch. Do the math. Its not that hard to get the ranks if you really get into wvw for a while. Rank requirement is fine.

You got 20 levels in 4 hours? Would love to know how you did that. I play ktrain on beast gate and eotm and can never achieve that amount of levels and I’ve been playing for 5 years wvw.

I’m also calling BS on 20 levels in 4 hours….

did wvw for 4 hours after the patch and about 2-3 hours later on at my normal raid time. During my normal raid time i got 8 ranks without any of the wxp drops or boosters. My rank at the start of the day was 1848, right now my rank is 1876.

I 100% do not believe you but I’m not about to argue about it with somebody on the internet.

Tifa.6473:

GrahamW.5397:

Jumpin Lumpix.6108:

GrahamW.5397:

rank 1500-2000 is fine, god forbid that the players who have stuck it out through almost 5 years get rewarded a bit more than the people just jumping in now for the skins.

really so 360 – 500 hrs of wvw and I’m only 1/8th the way there and that’s “just jumping in”?

I’ve gotten around ~20 ranks since the patch. Do the math. Its not that hard to get the ranks if you really get into wvw for a while. Rank requirement is fine.

You got 20 levels in 4 hours? Would love to know how you did that. I play ktrain on beast gate and eotm and can never achieve that amount of levels and I’ve been playing for 5 years wvw.

I’m also calling BS on 20 levels in 4 hours….

I know what you mean. I won’t lie, I raid regularly (pve raids) and WvW is a side past time from my raiding. The time sink for these rewards are too strict I will say that. But due to the ease of getting the rewards the trade off is taking longer and having patience. I am going to be doing WvW weekly to try for the backpiece that I would really like. However, I know it will take several months to get close to finishing it. Maybe that long-term goal is ok. A more impatient person would say this is an unreasonable requirement but because of how EASY it is to get, I think the time gate is warranted. However, with that said, what they require now is a bit too intense. I would like to see the back piece take roughly 3 months to complete. That would put it on par with the fractal back piece time gating.

Asur.9178:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Asur.9178:

Don’t worry; it’ll down out in the next few days once people realize what kind of jrpg grind ANet introduced.

Perhaps the claim ticket cap per week is to stop people from keeping the worlds full all the time. People might be driven to cap out and do something else.

Trust me, it’ll die out for other reasons beyond that.

Sure the carrots are nice, but when the carrots feel like they are unreasonably out of reach people will stop caring.

So, all the rage in map/team chat and here about “PvE players” are all meaningless. You’ll have the dead game mode back shortly.

That’s really sad… I love PVE but I also love WvW and I don’t want it to die down. I don’t know if the rewards are unreasonably out of reach though. It’s literally just a waiting game. The biggest hurdle is the time gating but the rewards are something that any player can get if they put in the time. No need to get a group or want to get a guild so it should be relatively EASY, just also very time-consuming.

Asur.9178:

Don’t worry; it’ll down out in the next few days once people realize what kind of jrpg grind ANet introduced.

Perhaps the claim ticket cap per week is to stop people from keeping the worlds full all the time. People might be driven to cap out and do something else.

For some reason ever time I see these threads I just imagine the OP is trying to brag out their machine. lol Now I’m not accusing this OP of that, it’s just what I always tend to think when I see them.

Aeolus.3615:

i actually dontlike the fire effect :\ wich they could be turned off or would be cool if they had several colors depending the class.

for some reason i hate the barbecue armor designs….. can i do some meat on your back? o_O

The spears are for giant sized marshmallows

Aeolus.3615:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Aeolus.3615:

boolah.1325:

Come on now.. give PvEers a chance to learn how much fun WvW can be.. as long as they have to play the gamemode to get rewards.

When they learn that following a commander/getting WvW builds/joining TS will help improve their game, we will all win. Bigger population has to be good right?

Getting farmed is the only way to show them how to play or how one is ment to play in this game.

finished my hammer leecher zerker rev yesterday, instaggbing (or almost doint it)players with 50% less health with 6k-10k aoe’es every 4 seconds, they gona cry so much

As one of the new comers to WvW I say bring it! You can find me with 80 of my friends tearing through people.

coward XD, still funny as Anet said on the recent interview that blob servers dont always win, they dont even know to play their game…. loooool

Saddly i barelly have 20-30 players on my server and we need to spread across eb and home bl to fight blobs or delya them a bit Anet wants those 80 man blob s ktrain WVW like eotm, its a game designed for bad players stacking and capign stuff easilly, nothing can be done arround that.

if ur new on WvW get a class that does aoe damage like hammer rev, aoe zerker ele, or reapers/condi necros that all u need to have, dont even use rangers just Rev’s in ranger place stack thsoe CoR spamming XD will be a multi-kill when leeched and stacked with the blobbers…

Alls fair in love and war old chap. My favorite role is running my daredevil with short bow and staff. Drop poison on downs and vault in cleaning them all up. Good times.

Chunky Milk.2130:

PvE’rs are already complaining…

What are you talking about?

Aeolus.3615:

boolah.1325:

Come on now.. give PvEers a chance to learn how much fun WvW can be.. as long as they have to play the gamemode to get rewards.

When they learn that following a commander/getting WvW builds/joining TS will help improve their game, we will all win. Bigger population has to be good right?

Getting farmed is the only way to show them how to play or how one is ment to play in this game.

finished my hammer leecher zerker rev yesterday, instaggbing (or almost doint it)players with 50% less health with 6k-10k aoe’es every 4 seconds, they gona cry so much

As one of the new comers to WvW I say bring it! You can find me with 80 of my friends tearing through people.

I think about it like this. At rank 97 which I currently am, I have obviously not played much WvW. I want to get into it as that’s the game mode that got me initially interested in GW2. Now someone who has a rank of over 1k has played a LOT more than I have and we all know the history of WvW rewards. It makes sense that those people deserve to get their rewards faster as they are long overdue anyway. Good things are worth waiting for.

Well, at least I am only held back for a couple weeks. It could be much worse but yeah, I wish I would have known ahead of time.

That’s very unfortunate to be completely locked. I switched to play with an irl friend and then I learn about this change. It almost feels punishing.

So I recently transferred to a new server. Does this completely lock me out of the new reward system for 3 weeks? Or will I just earn pips at a slower rate? A complete lockout would be really sad as I am really excited for the coming changes.

Garrus.7403:

Zalavaaris.5329:

I love it! Although I am not a WvW player you can bet I will become one in order to get this!

Like a thousand of other scrubs with their pve builds. Queues will be insane….. for some time and if you got the backpack you will leave again I guess. I hope you really will not get the backpack to easy for new players in wvw.

It sounds a tiny bit elitist when you say it like that. I expect to work hard to earn it and I hope I get hooked on wvw for the long term. Its where I started to fall in love with GW2 back in the beta weekends in 2012 so im sure with a good reward structure I will stick around. I do agree with you about not wanting it to be easily handed to people. I like my legendaries to be difficult to acquire for the personal sense of pride for attaining them.

Why the separation? I am a GW2 player that plays more in the PVE game type. However, if I get stomped enough in WvW I will learn what I need to and do the stomping once I learn the ropes.

I love it! Although I am not a WvW player you can bet I will become one in order to get this!

I would be upset if my silver fed got nerfed so….. no thnx

It’s possible you’re looking for the big events when they aren’t going on. Keep the wiki open with the event timers. Sometimes I even set alarms to be to an event area and in a squad 20 minutes prior.

I really really like it. When the bones are colored with crushed bone and the scales are dyed in a good way it really pops and looks like you’re wearing a dead dragon. Trench coat or not, it’s awesome in my opinion. Then again I just made a thief so I haven’t been used to wearing all trench coats.

Imo not until they get legendary armor they don’t

I wouldn’t risk that one. It would be a cheaper mistake to just make a completely different set of ascended.

Still looking if anyone wants a good raider on their team

Lunateric.3708:

Zalavaaris.5329:

Lunateric.3708:

I think their decision to make legendary armor raid exclusive is fine, just like Ad Infinitum needs fractals and The Ascension needs ranked PvP matches. If anything, I hope they keep adding different legendary items to each mode that people can work towards.

Other than that I find people resenting raiders pretty childish, even for a game. Seems shiny pixels bring the worse out of some.

People don’t resent raiders because of shiny pixels. They don’t resent raiders because they aren’t as “elite” as raiders and are somehow jealous of them. People resent raiders because of the bs hoops you’re forced to jump through to face bosses which are significantly easier than other games raid content. People resent the raiders that feel their whopping 1 year of raid experience qualifies them to be making any decisions that would exclude someone. The community is the problem with raids in GW2 not the content. A lot more people would have the armor already if it weren’t such an exclusive club. You may disagree with me but this is how a lot of people feel when they log on and think they might want to give this raid thing a shot.

Think it’s a perpetuated lie, I almost exclusively pugraid nowadays and have yet to see a player being shunned if said player is performing adequately with whatever special snowflake OR meta build they feel like using. And yeah, I pug 13/13 kills weekly. There is a very vocal minority here that hurts the game overall more than do good.

I would LOVE to be wrong. However, what I described is how a lot of people feel. I didn’t claim it was a studied fact regarding the community. However with THAT bit out of the way, I think you should add me so I can raid with you every week as your luck with pugs is significantly better than mine lol

Lunateric.3708:

I think their decision to make legendary armor raid exclusive is fine, just like Ad Infinitum needs fractals and The Ascension needs ranked PvP matches. If anything, I hope they keep adding different legendary items to each mode that people can work towards.

Other than that I find people resenting raiders pretty childish, even for a game. Seems shiny pixels bring the worse out of some.

People don’t resent raiders because of shiny pixels. They don’t resent raiders because they aren’t as “elite” as raiders and are somehow jealous of them. People resent raiders because of the bs hoops you’re forced to jump through to face bosses which are significantly easier than other games raid content. People resent the raiders that feel their whopping 1 year of raid experience qualifies them to be making any decisions that would exclude someone. The community is the problem with raids in GW2 not the content. A lot more people would have the armor already if it weren’t such an exclusive club. You may disagree with me but this is how a lot of people feel when they log on and think they might want to give this raid thing a shot.

The problem with the acquisition of legendary armor is the community. Now, what do I mean by That? There are so many barriers that raid teams have that push people out of their own community. Gear checks, li checks, build checks, God knows what else. New people who may have a LOT of raiding experience (ya know… YEARS more than the ONE that these raid groups have) can’t get into the raids because we don’t have the Lis. So it’s the community that holds people back from legendary armor, not the “challenge” of the raids. I know what you’re thinking… join a training group. The last several I’ve been in have yet to kill a boss. The frustrating thing is the ease of these bosses that people fail so hard on. The entire legendary armor requirement is a headache because of these reasons.

Good point! Currently I have a full ascended daredevil and I am on NA.

Still looking!

I am certainly interested!

Hello all,

I am currently looking for a raiding guild that clears the content. I have not had much experience with raiding in GW2. However, I have raided at the highest level in WoW for the past 8 years. With that said mechanics come naturally to me as well as keeping up with min/maxing etc.. If you don’t mind a slight learning curve with regards to GW2 raids but want a skilled raider that will perform at a high level let me know!

Thanks,

Zala

Same thing for me throughout the entire world. Gtx 1080 here

Please for the love of God bring back ice encasement outfit. It’s been 4 months since it was available so please consider giving people a 2nd chance at getting it!

So are you saying you AREN’T buying it? xD

Check out qntfy builds. They have a fractal mesmer build I use that has sw/sw and I use a gs for the other weapon. I don’t use leadership runes though. I used scholar. And instead of zerker gear I use marauder. It’s my go to build for everything but pvp and raids. Luckily I do neither of those xD

Do Christmas next and bring back ice encasement please!

My advice to you OP is to watch the fish closely. If the fish dies at some point then it was truly suffocating. If it continues to flop around and never dies it simply has no legs. I hear ANet likes to add long loop animations so make sure to really study it for a good amount of time just to make sure.

I have been playing since launch and made twilight a little over a year ago. I JUST recently finished sunrise and turned them into Eternity. I did not become more powerful but my god do I love that weapon. I don’t care who else has it and I don’t care how much time/effort it took. I love having it and I love logging in and seeing my Mesmer with it. Onto bolt!

OriOri.8724:

Everyone who compares the price of crafting a precursor to buying them fundamentally misunderstands why the collections exist. Its just that simple.

The comparison is for people who understand the value of time and money. If it’s cheaper AND faster to buy the precursor then there is little value to crafting. It’s not a comparison for the good feeling of accomplishment or whatever. It’s about economics.

Ice encasement outfit and crystal dragon wings

Danikat.8537:

I don’t know, I think the gem store usually has a pretty good range of stuff, and I would be very reluctant to say they should put more time and effort into it because I’d worry that other areas of the game will suffer as a result.

It’s just frustrating when I decide I want something and it’s gone, especially when by the time I can buy it I can’t even remember what I was going to do with it.

I agree, if I have to wait till December to get the ice encasement outfit and crystal dragon wings I will be very very sad….

I really really want the ice encasement outfit and crystal dragon wings to come back. I know I just missed them which makes it worse. I hope I don’t have to wait till the next winter event to get the outfit…