I preferred if Anet would keep it simple, splitting abilities on all professions will be a mess… unlike ppl believes, splitting abilities will bring confusion and will be harder to balance / track the abilities performances since it is NOT the same ability in PvE and PvP, it will be 2 separate abilities. Now imagine that on all professions on multiple abilities…
As it been done on other games but not at this extent, normally its one specific ability from 1 specific class/profession, not all…
just my 2 cents
Edit: I did not play GW
pve 110% wep damage pvp 80% wep damage….things of that nature….same skill scale differently for pvp etc. Trait ‘x’ reduces x wep set cd by 20% and in pvp applies chill or something like that….imo it really isnt hard to grasp.
This is all part in parcel of what im hoping will start to happen….anet will see there are plenty of people interested in pvp as in actual numbers. And subsequently will see the potential for revenue there….which will lead to many gem store pvp stuff…at least fingers crossed….
and hopefully anet and the broader community….is that there IS a community for PvP and that there IS a demand so to speak….i dont think you can say " yea and all 10 people that PvP still " …. while many may still only do it for laurels or whatever i do believe this shows that PvP can be quite profitable and has the potential with proper care from anet to flourish….cmon anet i believe in you please focus on pvp and then some!
i promise you….you get gear SOOOO much easier in tpvp now.
its amazing…the only thing i agree with kinda is the fact that you can’t customize the stats AS MUCH as you could in pve….the amulet gem combo its kitten poor imo…and on top of that….knights armor prec power in pve…..power prec VITALITY in pvp….blergh…iunno…not that fond of the amulet gem system for all my stats
i agree guest on anvil rock….win all the bacons
he is not a warrior i have watched and enjoy his streams a lot…..which dont worry he’ll probably blow up as a streeamer now…..so that will be nice.
Make our MMR or ELO rating or whatever you use VISIBLE for players….and make the leaderboards and MMR / ELO VISIBLE ….IN GAME! Please…you making these frustratingly tiny baby steps and continue to refuse help from players….I BELIEVE IN YOU ANET! CMON!
( this is part in parcel why you should allow mods/addons and have a public beta server, because 1 you directly see what people want 2 see how they did it and 3 get their true feedback from public beta servers when testing etc not forum qq. also allows for drastic class changes that can be tested in beta and changed again where needed. )
devon you are quickly becoming my new favourite dev….please don’t lose your touch in regards to not being afraid to step away from the safe PR coated answers….reading your plethora of posts in the wvw forums recently i sincerely appreciate your answers and communication….dont ever lose that touch if you can help it. and encourage the balance team and spvp team to do that same =P
Dear devon…can you try and encourage the spvp crew to make similar quick fixes to balancing etc … i think you’ll find lots of wild tweaks to class balance over a month or 2 might be far more beneficial than say…slight tweaks and major nerfs over 8 months….
all imo of course…but this is a prime example of the direction i appreciate you as a dev is going….it is bandaid…but at least its being addressed in such a way that it can be rectified.
Not going to lie Im feeling it a bit too…i felt like all last year that feb / march would be the time we start seeing some major advancements in pvp at the very latest now I am honestly doubting all the staples needed for any pvp aspect of a game won’t even be here by october november ish….Its frustrating because if they devoted some time to it they could make it worth while to come back to….this is THE game to quit leave and come back without a sub fee all those that have left can easily return….its just annoying that ( imo ) the higher up decision makers of the company dont feel the pvp side of it would be worth it….thus making the pvp developers etc extremely short changed ( aka 2 people to balance 8 classes etc )….
Getting more and more kitten off with ncsoft and its anet corporate scum which DOESNT include the developers that we talk to…I honestly believe they are still being held back my corporate decisions.
Im curious whether people know that if you run the same main hand you dont need to buy 2….aka have your main set as axe shield and your 2ndary set as just warhorn…when you weap swap it keeps the axe in mainhand and just swaps offhands…
the only thing ive yet to test is whether regarding above scenario if having sigil of battle on that 1 axe will still proc with each and every weapon swap. I assume it would…which be amazing.
I have one story…..my god pve i feel like such a beast and can experiment with a wide variety of playstyles and while some classes perform roles a bit better than most I dont feel punished for wanting to try condi…or axe power or gs power or tanky cc or support…
thats the only good story i got sorry =(
didnt he say these were tpvp matches? ultimately for those trying it i’d recommend playing more than 4 hours…..for google upload more videos and show fights where you lose as well as win like a lot of em…i only say this because the losses can show where the weaknesses are and help people determine their own opinions about the build rather than ASSUMING the players your killing are bads.
Im starting to feel more and more like the spvp crew are being held back by the company of anet / ncsoft….im starting to sense they are getting frustrated as we are but can’t explain or express as much as they want to due to higher ups from the company.
So while personally i feel the reason the updates are coming so slow isn’t the spvp crews fault but the companies fault…I do think they could be a bit more communicative and less scared of giving us reasons etc…Honestly what i’d love is a half hour where the state of the game crew with the top spvp’ers can sit down with all the spvp crew ( all 2 of em i fear ) and real non PR coated bullkitten " safe " answers….i UNDERSTAND your plight that you need to be safe and stuff….but just once….half an hour….give us real answers ask anything we want and dont be safe about it….
Why are features taking so long? to be honest theres only 5 tops people working on it and as a company we make more money from pve so we drive that first and foremost…etc
spectator mode when? We are actually struggling with it to be honest we know theres a plethora of things spvp needs and because of our numbers we can only tackle one thing at a time….its on the back burner tbh…..
These are examples but yea….no holds barred just be real.
all IMO of course…but hey….i will always hold onto hope that say in another 6 months major improvements will have been made….most mmo’s ive played looking back now weren’t too crash hot the first year or so.
Damage not dps…please dont confuse the 2.
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A shining example that cross servers dont have to hate each other XD….thanks for update.
ah cool at work didnt see their choice….grats on a decision and I look forward to battling against you =)
While I would love to have AFS on JQ, I also understand that JQ has an extremely strong SEA presence, and that other servers would benefit more from your transfer than JQ. BG is a good server, but they have already proven that they can win T1; hence, you might want to consider moving to another destination.
There are two servers that I can think of that both need more SEA coverage and are in tiers that would provide the type of fights AFS is looking for: TC and SoR. TC seems like a great location to go to — a friendly server, dedication to team play and WvW, and you would be going up against a server with a large SEA presence, Kaineng, providing you with lots of good fights at the times that you play. Similarly, SoR is a very strong server boasting the largest NA presence in all of tier 1, and from what I can tell they could definitely use more SEA coverage to further balance T1. They also have the largest and most strident population of forum warriors, though. I wish that reputation would change for them, but they have to stop talking about how everyone else is bad at pvp first, and they definitely need to stop crashing GvGs. It’s a PR disaster.
Having said that, if I were in your position, I would seriously consider moving to TC because they have such a zeal for fun and an unimpeachable reputation as having a great never-give-up attitude. Just take a gander at their threads for a good laugh. Heck, I want to go to TC or have them in JQ for those good times.
I assume your on JQ and as a BG player its nice to see a JQ person publically not being aggressive to our server…i appreciate it.
This is my personal experience and not AFS but for me, Colin’s post about free transfer is a little useless. Seeing as how the new update on WvW will reward you if you ‘DO’ more WvW not PvDoor, transferring to a lower tier server is just counter productive.
That said, as an AFS member (not AFS as a whole) would just like to find more action. I am personally sad to leave SoS as we started here and stay the longest before even considering the option of transferring. I will leave the server judgement to Grekkz and will support him 100%. We worked with many guilds from around the world and they can vouch for us that we will make a difference in your server.
Please stay on topic and post the stuff required by Grekkz and we will look into it. Thanks.
respectable post mate….personally im completely biased because to be brutally honest i would love you guys to choose BG so we can seriously contend with JQ and make for a awesome t1 bout….that said from an unbiased as possible viewpoint i believe KN or SoR to be your best bets…just my personal opinion…regardless of your choice gl and most of all have fun…
i’d definitely recommend guesting on the servers your looking at and hang out with specific guilds not pugs….why i recommend this is because every server has trolls etc LA map chat etc. However maybe join soem guilds on guild missions…do some dungeons talk with people…if i was going i’d talk with not the guild leaders of every guild or PR if they have them etc….but higher up well established normal members….ask them a bunch of questions about their opponents and their server…..
I just found this new website…due to it being fairly new as far as I’m aware its data lacks consistent updates but thats where the players come in….similar to dragon timers lets get temples going too so people chasing legendaries can buy their obsidium shards etc
Its definitely subjective but i love norn the lore behind the frozen appeal…(played frost dk in wow) I’m running tier 3 norn shoulders karma gloves and boots tier 3 norn legs and no helm with TA explorable heavy chest….and my god the specific dye scheme of abyss and redemption looks huemazing.
Good luck JQ and SoR keep the amazing competitive spirit up! BG bloody fantastic comeback, lets keep our consistency and most of all have fun out there everyone! =)
I had a feeling that the " we didnt even try we are waiting for next patch " excuse might crop up /shrug.
Bump, after a lengthy and interesting discussion with guildies I’m quite curious what others think about this.
As an aside in spvp i did quite well the burst from arcane blast and wave was beast.
I had an idea about running pvt gear to get as much power and crit damage as i can ( not caring about precision in gear ) running the standard 0/10/0/30/30 build but running shorter arcane spell cd in arcane and using arcane blast and arcane wave on 16 second an 24 second cd respectively….i tried it out in spvp and you are tanky as can be but the arcane spells are guaranteed crit and you are power heavy with a pvt build.
Curious how it might be with say pvt gear and beryl ( power vit critdamage ) gems on accessories….anyone else tried a similar idea to this yet?
There is no threat of it being too hard to progress or get back to where you were if you lose because all it takes is 1 win.
Hello all as I and others have found recently its all too easy to have repeating wvw matchups is feeling a bit stale. As I have read in another thread people are curious how long KN will win tier 2 and SoR will lose tier 1 before a change will happen.
My suggestion is this.
Why not have the winner for that week in x tier guaranteed to move up if possible. The loser for the week of x tier will guaranteed to move down. But what about servers that get double teamed and go down because other servers gang up on them…well as one ( yes im aware 1 doesnt represent everyone ) JQ member said tier 1 is getting stale and there is no threat to dropping a tier.
I feel this would make wvw far more fun and challenging, more viseral (spelling?).
Curious what you guys think or have any tweaks. I’d love to hear a red’s thoughts on this too.
I have a question…would the plus healing with the shouts be worth it to lose the toughness from say…power/vit/toughness set…could you still hold aggro in dungeons WITHOUT the + healing?
Thats splitting hairs…because i can use my naga to bind dodge and a skill to the same button if i wanted. Combat mod isn’t a third party program…its a script.
To put it simpyly if they detect a mod or game alteration of any kind, and that detection hits anything that can or has been used to gain unfair advantages, chances are you’ll get banned.
They won’t ban you if it’s something they are not specifically detecting.
That’s why you use them at your own risk.
For example, imagine someone amkes a neat camera mod to take screenshots and safely ‘stroll’ around areas without revealing the map and watching the scenery.
And after a while, someone starts using that to cheat in PvP and WvW, to spy on the enemy and see their movements.
So they decide to address the issue by detecting the mod, and it gets ‘blacklisted’ and when they detect people using it, they are tagged to be banned.The next batch of bans, the mod you though was ‘safe’ gets you banned.
That’s why you should not use mods at all. It’s a problem waiting to happen.
Hmmm you raise a good point here…i never saw it like that.
if you guys read the three links i provided…the top one 1 month ago says you do so at your own risk if kitten kittens up its your fault…those ones spyder are all from longer than a month ago.
yea absolutely, I definitely disagree with advantageous mods being banned that should definitely happen. but even something like UI mods would be nice…i mean the game places such a high value on cosmetic items i’d love to cosmetically change my UI to fit my theme.
That combat mod that was popular few months back is an interesting one…i personally don’t believe it gives anyone an advantage simply because it uses everything you can do in game. Kinda just saves the holding of right click down really.
I mean ultimately if the broader community didn’t really want it then for sure i understand but there was some conflict among customers and even anet staff thats all between their responses etc.
First off I appreciate there are other threads on this however they have all since been closed. Why am I making another? Because there is a seperation amongst the community between whether or not mods are illegal that I feel could be cleared up.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Policy-Third-Party-Programs/first#post354869
Clearly states they do not support or approve but that they aren’t illegal, you simply use them at your own risk so if you get hacked / gw2 breaks its your own fault. I’m fine with that. Note this was posted 1 month ago.
Here is an example from 2 months ago that contradicts what they stated 1 month ago…not allowed =/= do so at own risk etc.
Here is another example 2 months ago where they state mods aren’t allowed. Both contradicting to their statement from 1 month ago saying suggest they are allowed they just don’t approve / support them etc.
I raise these ideas simply because for my personal opinion I would like mods…that combat mod from a few months ago would be amazing, i personally would like to see dps meters simply so I know whether gs > axes for dungeons etc. Colorblind mod another example…now I DO however agree that the moment mods are more commonly accepted as “allowed” elitism will become a bit more prominant. Dps meters will mean people will start getting labeled.
Heres my arguement. Hardcore players are already specifying group comps for higher level fractals they generally run among themselves and know what comps work best etc. The people that will use dps meters as an excuse " Oh your kitten pfft i topped meters therefore im doing my job l2heal ". I feel they are already the same people that without dps meters are still mouthing off in dungeons currently anyway. No change there. Further more I think it’ll help balance the dps healing and support capabilities by having definitive numbers of what specs can do what damage output while remaining survivable etc. I believe it’ll help with tuning.
Apart from dps meters…I don’t know of any other mods that will be detrimental to the game UI mods for example people like having things set up the way they want. I believe if people weren’t so worried about mods being bannable then perhaps programmers will band together to make a trusted site or post on a trusted gw2 fan site etc.
Hi…with competitive and progressive pve now I’d like to min / max my damage output between weaposn like gs / axes etc etc.
Due to the urge to make a massive long post that I nor you can be bothered dealing with while at work I had made a whole kitten tonne of dot points about what I think will come from these ascended gear / infusions etc Its more of a guess as what is coming.
- Ascended gear is a one time addition of a rarity of gear. Like masterwork and rares and exotics.
- They added it to fill the gap between exotics and legendaries specifically what legendaries will become in the future as they add armor etc
- Their perception of the “gap” between exotics and legendaries isn’t in the stats…Its in the ease of gaining them. Exotics are kittendedly easy to get while legendaries are this massive grind theres no mid ground…thats why I believe they added this new rarity.
- The upgrade slot on ascended gear is ONLY for infusion they added additional stats to counteract the lack of gem etc as shown on the pic.
- Infusions will be changed out depending what dungeon you are clearing through
- Ascended gear won’t increase in stats as additional content comes out aka no ascended tier 1 ascended tier 2 etc.
- Offensive infusion refers to x % increase damage to karka’s shields. If you recall they mentioned seeing damage of 0 for a bit won’t be uncommon as they have these impenetrable shields and you will visually see them crumbling off etc. Offensive infusions will assist with mitigating time spent chipping through their shields
- Defensive Infusions refers to y% damage reduction to the agony debuff
- Omni-Infusions refer to either a mix of offensive and defensive or completely different stats that also assist with killing of karka only. Aka keeps infusions only effecting the dungeon and nothing else.
- As new dungeons release that share the similar agony mechanic new infusions will be released with them.
- Ascended gear will be released in waves, First round is 6 items aka 5 trinkets and a back piece. After that we will probably see another 6 items next major content patch refering to helm, shoulders, chest, gloves, legs and feet. After that the weapons will come along with the scaling up of the legendary weapons to ascended level.
- Water based ascended items may coincide when we vs the unnamed underwater dragon.
- When they say more item progression will come I believe they mean the filling out of ascended gear and then from there there will be no more increase to stats. I don’t believe we’ll see stat increases but I do believe they have something planned regarding item progression still.
- WvW will have its own ascended gear in time, this has since been confirmed so I believe the wvw’ers won’t be screwed over by this.
- This last point isn’t something believe will happen but I just more so would love to see it. Have skill progression for example. ele casts a fireball for x damage…have some sort of progression system involving dungeons or wvw or whatever that changes and beefs up the animations of the fireball, it still does x damage, still behaves the exact same way it just looks heaps more amazing visually. /Shrug sounds baller to me.
Cheers guys.
O’Brien, O’Brien, O’Brien. Tsk tsk. Perhaps you and your team forgot about this interview. Or maybe these were all a bunch of lies. Or maybe it wasn’t you who was saying these lines (gasp):
“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2012/05/21/guild-wars-2-interview-monetization/#dOdOoqq2XMbtv2o4.99
New PVP map? Yay!
New events? Yay!
New dungeon? Yay!
New PVE mechanic? Yay!
New gear tier? Uh-oh..The news about this new patch made me kitten in meh pants but the moment after I read the Ascended Gear Blogpost, all my excitement for the new patch went down the drain.
Where the thousands of hours of grinding? its a dungeon…one that everyone will do…wheres the tier of gear? its kittening 2 stat point increase per stat…
Its not tiered gear…its just adding 1 more kittening rarity of gear to the game…each you didn’t complain about rare’s to exotics…or masterwork to rares…55 pages of the same whiny kittens…meanwhile Orr and other zones are now BUZZING with people getting back into the game farming karma and gold in prepartion for this game…food potions etc etc to tackle this dungeon… good friggin job ANET!
For all we know its a one time addition of another rarity to items. Not an ever increasing new tier of gear. /shrug the guild convo’s we have been having because of this though is quite interesting.
More than 2 stats once totaled, combining all stats on these items and all the other parts. They are adding full set for this so +2 is more like +68 at the minimum which in Wv3 will make all the difference between victory or defeat. It’s not a small difference, it’s a HUGE difference once the full set is put in.
And I like to point out that now they have thrown the manifesto out the window, new gear will pop up every few months just like that other game. If I wanted a gear grind, I’d be playing that other game and not GW2!!!
6 gear pieces on release 2 stats per piece 12 stat increase total…they are only doing back and the 5 trinkets. Shoosh now.
She is saying there is a happy medium…hardcores get their min max’ing to progress and get better ONLY IN THE DUNGEON IN QUESTION…why casuals aren’t going to get kittened over by a whopping 2-3 stat increase. Despite you casuals complaining…there will be no effect on you. If you are feeling you NEED to grind this gear then its your own mind playing tricks on you…The only thing that will happen is for those that want to experience the deeper levels of the dungeon yes they will do a LFM 3/5 ascended etc etc…but heres the kicker you will be doing the earlier parts of that dungeon anyway…therefore you will naturely get that gear over time so whats the problem…" Oh but I don’t want to grind for ages just to get the better gear to go deeper into the dungeon thats a grind "….then why in the kitten are you grinding the same dungeons over and over happily for a purely cosmetic upgrade…if this ascended gear comes in you whine because you feel forced to do it….if it didnt come in you would still do the dungeon just as much as if there was no stat upgrades for the bloody content and cosmetic kitten anyway…God friggin kitten this is the most pointless whining ever! Either way you going to be doing the dungeon…
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Dear all people who dislike this change…tell me how 2-5 stats will effect your wvw or PvE experience? By that mark why aren’t you complaining that legendaries have a 1 damage point increase on exotics…clearly that 1 point of damage is making all the difference.
After reading the blog…you can see the items go up in LITERALLY 2 points per stat aka 10 to 12 precision etc etc…
Personally I kittening love you ANET…thank you for this. I can’t wait! If you feel 2 points of stats are going to be that big of a deal for dungeon content that scales you down ( except arah obviously ) and wvw…then well we simply disagree…WTB PvE Leaderboard website. Willing to help with its construction / maintaining.
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Dear ANET, As someone who is a huge advocate of ascended gear because I miss some notion of PvE competitiveness…I think Taugrim has definitely hit the nail on the head with some ideas…putting more effort into leaderboards for PvE content, cosmetic gear which we alrdy have but could be better…and heres something I’d love to see…progression of ability animations…you could have that fire mage do the same damage and ability as a level 1 dude…but doing x dungeon allows that fire spell to have some totally new and kick kitten animation. Combine that with better cosmetic looking stuff and leaderboards…suddenly your PvE scene is ROCKIN!
Contemplate this ANET…have a good day! =)
I have no concluded for me personally its the vocal 50-100 people out of the 10’s of thousands of people that play this game that don’t want this change. /shrug. We shall see just my opinion.
It is sounding more and more like temp upgrade for that one particular instance to help you get further in said instance…it’d be like grinding an instance to get a temp buff that only applies to an instance so you can get further in that instance…Hell it’ll make competitive PvE a thing…there’d be leaderboards who cleared x in y time etc…thats brilliant…the downside is people will still kitten all of the people derserve to see the content qqqqqqqqq. Ah well…whatever lets face it companies and mature gamers alike should be used to these kinds of reactions by now
If we wait till it’s released we wait till it’s too late. If we wait till we get official information on it, we probably also wait until it’s too late, because the GW2-Edition of ArenaNet prefers not to inform players wtf is going on.
I don’t wanna ruin things before they start, but I prefer to step on the brakes BEFORE the car hits the wall.
Yeah, it’s already been in development long enough that you’re probably a few months late. And besides, you don’t know at all how it’s going to be implemented at all. It could be no different than how exotics behave compared to rares. Anyone else notice that it said “slight”?
even if it’s +1 stat budget over exotics, it’s still a betrayal of the core concept this game has been sold on for the past 5 years.
Anet have stated before that end game gear progression is horizontal more like side grades perfecting your gear not in large jumps or " tiers " of gear like another MMO we know of. I don’t hear protests that the legendary has a +1 over normal exotic weapons. Calm down. You are not forced to get this new gear…If you can’t still do whatever it is your doing currently in all aspects and including wvw with the exotics you have already obtained…then I will literally give you a million dollars…
I just spent so much money on exotic armor for my THREE level 80 toons. Now all of that is going to be subpar? I would have just waited to outfit. I guess it doesn’t matter because if they up the equipment tiers now, they will do it again.
Guild Wars 1 was a great game BECAUSE of the fact that you could get max gear early, so your skill was what mattered most. Guild Wars 2 is heading in the exact opposite direction.
For reference how much did you spend on 1 80 fully exotic’d out? 15 gold tops? that Ain’t much…4-5 days of 20 minutes each day clearing out Orichalcum in cursed shore malchor’s leap and frostsound gorge will net you close to that. Now you have 3 80’s thus spending 4-5 days for an hour each day instead of 20 minutes to log all 3 80’s and do the exact same thing…your laughing…exotics are easy as hell to obtain. Once you get that its all about the skins that are the grind.
Not directly related to you now but I feel people are complaining about this way too heavily. Just my opinion of course.
I hope they discrepancy between exotics and ascended armor isn’t too much…for the record I’m sooooo kittening glad they are adding a tiny amount of gear treadmill…but I understand and respect that others don’t want it at all.
For that reason I hope its small enough that the min/max people like me will still happily do it but it won’t punish the casuals too much. Keep up the great work Anet…Don’t listen too much to the qq’ers.