Guild Wars 2

Projectile damage is way too risky to use due to immense amount of reflects and proj. destroys. Apart from revs there are no op ranged dmg dealers. Other can be easily killed by a gap closer and a good swing of a sword.

I have not been here for even 2 years but even I know that elite specs are “way stronger” than normal ones, Anet needs cash desperately so buggers balance, and there will be no balance in this game because Anet do not care.

I have been playing ranger since my first login, they hate us.
I love my elementalist, my second profession, which has no decent condi build
I love my engi (carpal-tunnel meister) which still has several bugs (others have too)
blah blah blah.

Selling an expansion without fixing bugs and problems in the game is the worst idea ever. If there were no bugs in core professions, maybe they would be able to withstand elites. Only necro & corrupt boon works very well now.

LordOtto.2650:

It’s a game, ppl choose to play how they want, and if I choose to sit down, then I sit down… If you don’t like it you can argue in chat, an say “good things to him/her”, like I do..
Sometimes I am the troll and just quit, seeing that my team mates from solo queue are St- id.

Never go full kitten son.

What was the biggest complain anet got in the forums?
No one knows, already deleted.

Why did the balance patch is so late?
Because it got lost in the new Borderland Map.

If you throw an asura and a sylvari from the top of the empire states building, which one hits the ground first?
Who the hell cares?

What is a difference between a norn and a human?
Norn has the magic mushroom.

What is a difference between an asura and a sylvari?
One of them is suitable for vegetarians.

What happens when two sylvari is in love with each other?
Survival camp fire.

Every profession should have 3 builds including tank, dps and condition damage. And they should be working pretty well. Why? Because there are some professions that can do three of them, and there are some can not even properly do one of them.

Problem is that this game has no idea about heavy-medium-light armor difference. Tempest being the tank? Why the heck? Guardian is dps? What the actual kitten is revenant? Father of all?

Because that all the roles have been randomly given to many professions, there is no balance. Class x can play tank, condi and dps. Class y can not do even one. Class z has no condition build available.

With this system, there will not be any balance in the game. Either give all professions 3 build possibility with different variations, or limit all of them to two at least. And fix the kitten bugs. Then maybe if we be good kids we can see the smurfs.

Signet cele necro and condi engi are both quite good. But I do not play ranked anymore so cant comment on high tiers where everybody is sturdier than a dwarf.

Sadly I have no idea how to use a sowrd

I love engineer but really, lorewise they are a little “pushed”. They use no magic but summon a turret from their tushies?

They are masters of mechanics but no one invented a bloody sniper, or a heavy machine gun?

I am joking ofcourse. I like engi, but lore-wise it is not as archetypal as other professions. And it gives you a carpal-tunnel syndrome.

Well not buying gems and playing only unranked is what me and friends do. It is a type of protesting that can make Anet realize so we will go on. Otherwise I do not think they read this forum at all.

Well if the balance in the game was settled, these changes would be great. Except the ressimg part, it needs a clarification whether or not getting attack and cancellation of res is used.

However with the latest pvp problems I think these changes will force bunker meta into wvw. And the difference between new and core specs will be a huge issue. Also player numbers and mega blobs vs smaller zergs will be back.

All in all these changes were made with good intentions and should be reviewed and criticised with the same attitude.

Most of the new specs are way stronger than old ones. And if the next balance patch comes in June, this game will lose too many players, and the balance patch will be redundant.

I would advise you to do something else. I was just like you dear OP. Was not having fun with this meta, or the build versatility. I am now playing EB/WvW with zergs when I am online. If my friends insist I usually go unranked ( I will not play ranked until this horrendous meta/ system is fixed. You should protest too).

All and all this new style is not working for me very well. And it seems my Guild Wars 2 days will be over in few weeks altogether. It is sad to see the game I loved changed so much. Although there are still who loves this meta, It feels empty to me.

Lol. / 15 characters.

giving new pets in expansion and prohibiting them from core users is rubbish. anet does not fix the pet system but brings more powerful and useful pets to the table. first fix the bloody core game. I paid money for that and will not pay a dime until the necessary fixes are done.

and also we lost our dear wvw maps to a bunch of giant boring new ones, pvp is fooked with new elites. pve is still the same and became boring as hell (also nerfs for f2p are fooked).

Before HoT, there was a distinction between meta and non-meta builds. Non meta builds were working if the player was accustomed to them very well. And there were several different combinations according to the different playstyles of different people. Those different builds were working because it depend-ed on the skill lvl of the player.

Now some builds are immensely powerful. No matter how much you know your build, some builds/professions will falter when the skill gap is small. Elite specs destroyed the core specs in many ways. And with the expansion (and the patch before it) build variety became severely limited. Now it is “either have x in your team or lose” at some levels. Frankly I do not care, because I quit playing ranked with the latest changes. But for those friends who are trying to play and have fun, Anet must offer a compensation. Or they will learn that it is the community that runs the game, and without it there will be no “game”. Look at the other fallen games. It is the same road.

Zorpi.5904:

Once ranger always ranger.

Sadly, yes.

They are not talking about its power or “metaness”. It is plainly boring, that is what they are saying. And from the looks of it, elementalist has become more loggish than before. I was really hoping for conjurer type, or a good caster type like a sorcerer/wizard combo. Never liked d/d though. And it always felt wrong when I use evasive arcana. It feels like destroying the charisma of a magic user. But that is me.

Problematic part is that tempest is way stronger than base elementalist. That should be fixed for my opinion. But I have forsaken my expectations about this game weeks ago.

Supreme.3164:

alain.1659:

I know it is a minor problem but please, it is not diamond skin “ELE” but it is diamond skin “TEMPEST”. The title of the post is misguiding.

And yes, tempests tanking potential is silly, boring, uncreative and lacks the imaginative aspects of a good developer.

Coming from an engi this is rich really…maybe you should buy HoT and try scrapper…then come back after taking a long walk…and remove your comment, if tempest dev is bad…god forbid what should happen to the engi/scrapper designer -_-

As someone who played engi and loved it as a “main” character, I am really shocked on what you said. There is no scrapper dev, and you not knowing this shows your ignorance. Everybody knows the scrapper was made by a running turtle.

Jokes aside, scrapper is also bad. But ele is plain “boring”. Not bad, not underpowered, not overpowered. I am not talking about power. I am talking about lack of imagination, the immensity of boringness.

And no one can tell me that this patch deserves its money. If I still see ranger pet names bug, engi toolkit bug, and engi static discharge bug, it means nobody cares about bug fix and game balance.

And also there is revenant.

I know it is a minor problem but please, it is not diamond skin “ELE” but it is diamond skin “TEMPEST”. The title of the post is misguiding.

And yes, tempests tanking potential is silly, boring, uncreative and lacks the imaginative aspects of a good developer.

I can only vouch for the medi dps guardian gs/scepter focus. Other builds you have mentioned are less powerful than their HoT counterparts. This game lacks balance so hard that it can perform drunken fist easily while trying to sleep.

A thief stole Anet’s love. And now there is only hate. Anet will not stop until it tastes the tears of the thieves merges with the cries of agony filling into its heart. Once loving, kind, and caring heart.

Or they just kitten up the class. Dunno which.

I am seeing at least 3 Dragon Hunter’s (my team and the enemy total, 1 vs 2 usually). But I do not see other professions so often. DH does not bothers me that much actually. But in spvp, where the point is small, she has a good advantage over other professions. I do not have HoT so I can not say about playing one. Seems it needs a little “adjustment” for my taste, to even the field with others. But power based, fast casting, and long staying traps were a “BAD IDEA”. Shame to those who invented those.

ps: That guy is right about revenant. It is op.

Let the rifle thief root into a place, give him/her 1800 range and a huge hitting skill. That will be a sniper. Let him charge his shot (revealed while charging) then boom! Hits like optimus prime. ?f the enemy is clever, he can dodge it, reflect it, block it (although an unblockable skill/trait is a must). Ta daaaa. You have a sniper profession. Which is a ranger with an instant lb 2. With less “fur” more “shadow”.

Sorry, he says 20 matches with the same exact team and you advice what? Dude this is idiotic if it is true. 20 times vs same team? How the carrot?

I feel you pal. I wanted to play an archer, and did play for quite amount of time. But now nothing you can do survives against an equally skilled opponent. You have no chance against some professions if they play right. I have dropped my ranger. I suggest you find another archetype and build that.

What kind of mentality is this? Distortion ok but ahadow step not? Are you insane? If we got an option like mist form, why would we burn our only condi cleanse for a bloody stomp?

Well at least everybody is in EB, ignoring new disasterous borderlands. It is still something. I would really be angry if I was the CEO of Anet after this wvw thing. Still not too late to change.

I hope he is mocking. Felt like a bad imitative joke of a young friend, trying to be ironic with his limited humour.

It is normal. They got some wrong tips and made some bad changes. Then, instead of answering questions, offering different methods, “fixing bugs” or just saying “we hear you, we will be looking into it”, they did nothing. And now with the new league, people are angry, rightfully. Still there are changes and fixes that should be made. If they open their communication channels , all of this would dissappear after a month.

Heheh I love our forums. Sooner or later two people starts to fight and others join with wall of texts. I have seen shorter graduation thesis’ then some of the posts.

There is a guy who eats glass for breakfast. He is said to be perfectly healthy. Does this mean eating glass is healthy? Or it is just working for that individual?

Problem is that engi slowly loses power against new professions/traits. And now you have to find new ways, lose your old build and make up something new, even if you are playing core engi. Old tactics are failing us hard. So we need some new ones. I think that is why some weapons are losing popularity/power really fast, and some are becoming popular.

This is not LoL or dota. People paid for this game. This is a product and customers have every right to demand a fix. If you want to be a wolf, fight for your rights. Dont let others step on you.

So that is why ranger pet names, engi toolkit pull bugs are still there. If they wanted to fix it, they would. Hot diggity! Everything is clear now!

But if you compare it with similar ranged attacks it is way better. And ofcourse it has fields. Ele has a huge delay on aoe and rangers attacks are single target. Only with moryar you can bypass reflection fields due to projectile drop. I always play mortineer ao I am used to calculate the necessities. And for me only thing engi needs is bug fix.

Like I said I would not say nay to a sniper kit. Hell I would really love to have a new kit with cool skills. But other ranged professions would get mad.

Umm don’t we have a kit called mortar? That can hit 1500 (+300 ghost) range? Do you guys mean single target range dps? I would not say no to a sniper kit kind of thing but would’nt it make other professions redundant and move engi from jack of all trades to master of “one” ?

All other classes look cool, and known among many fantasy books and games under a similar name. In the world of magic, engi feels absurd in the beginning for some fantasy lovers like me. I have my ele and want to play him all the time. Can I? No. Because of this stupid class called engineer.

I hate mechanization. I do not like technology in fantasy games. I really dislike steampunk. No visual on engi attracts me. The class lore is empty and there is literally no logical explanation why one would bring a flamethrower to a sword fight. All and all many of my friends think like this. But I love this silly class. I have not been able to play anything else for some time. Engineer is complex, needs you to act without thinking. No memorized rotation can save you. And you can literally do everything. Needs some time to get used to it. And like someone said, engineer needs a special mind set and a playstyle. It is batman in jla, it is a wizard in dnd, it is the guy silently saves the day but never really cared about it in the movies.

What build are you using? I find engi as the best core profession in the game. I have other chars but I play engi (addicted) usually. Static discharge still works, condi engi worls except against necros. Turret is dead. Soldier or cele rifle manages if you play smart. It is not strong but not bad as a core warr,thief or ranger.

On the mobility part you are right. Everyone got himself a blink-ish skill or insane amount of blocks. There is no balance betwren core and elite. And I think there wont be.

Yep. Magnet still fails, static discharge still bugged…etc

May the turtles eat their chips.

Search wolfineer, he got some useful tricks. He is the “master engineer” in my opinion when it comes to teaching. And he seems to be a very nice dude.

I rue the day that I watched his kitten videos. I hate mechanical stuff, I dislike steampunk. And I can not stop playing my engi. I was once a cool elementalist

Friend, some of the traits are far from useless. Including short fuse, I tend to use them when I need them. But you are right many of them can and should be merged.

Playing thief is very tricky nowadays. You can do 2 things in pvp:

1- cap and decap fast without engaging the enemy. This will help your team to get points but may become boring. And dangerous too.

2- Waiting in stealth and hitting those who are weakened. Again dangerous with new elite specs. Some do not die that easy and you do not have too many options against cc.

3- Create a revenant and make it look just like your thief. Manipulate yourself that it is your thief with new powers. Try not to cry. Win.

And I am very sorry to say this but change your build. You can handle yourself in wvw with builds like these but in spvp you need different qualities in your build. Visit thief forums. They are good people.

What?

I am sorry, I shouldn’t say “What”.

WHAT?

Rangers? Best dmg skill rapid fire? Best auto attack damage? 3 rangers in both teams? Maybe it is a ranger winner day and you are the luckiest guy in the world. I think you are trolling so I will not discuss other hopes and dreams of yours.

But seriously…

WHAT?

Well I did not buy the exp. And do not think I will. New specs for my favourite professions reall suck! I loved lb ranger, what I got? A bloody tank. I loved my support tank guard. What I got? Trapper pew pew ranger wannabe with LESS range. I loved my ele. What I got? Another bloody tank.

So it should not be free. It should cost money I agree. But it should worth it. 3 years and still there are so many core bugs. I really hoped a nice bug fix when HoT came out. But nooo morr shinieees.

So fix the bugs, make core specs fine (not more powerful or even equal. All I ask is fine) and let me play my loved classes as I like in competitive. Not the way you think is right. Then me, wife and other friends will get the bloody exp without a heartbeat.

Same here. Tomes would bring uniqueness to the profession and would prove that she is also a caster profession. There can be rework to prevent “op” problem however.

Once upon a time, there were beautiful tomes on my guardian. They were useless, had long cd but the concept idea was “perfect” for a semi caster profession. When Anet decided to remove tomes I was shocked. Why would someone waste such a beautiful concept when they can rework on it and make it perfect?

I know it is not a “hot” topic. And I would prefer Anet to fix bugs in the game, and work on balance issues. But I want to ask anyway, why wouldn’t we use tomes as an engineer uses her toolkit? Wouldn’t it be a more versatile and funny elite to use? One can choose among two tomes, and it would really bring some roleplaying (and visual) flavor. I was always assuming that guardian’s elite spec would be something like a caster who uses tomes (healing or wrath).

It is just an idea without any statistical calculations on skills or any other thing (they must be reworked accordingly to this). But there is already the concept of “tome” and the mechanics of “toolkits”. So maybe it would be fun.

There is something sweet called “reflect” in the game. Which clock-blocks rifle warriors and lb rangers. So be careful if you want to use killshot build.

New wvw maps? You mean EB and the other treadmills that built on mazes where you need to run and run and run and run and…

Problem is that warriors are built to prolong combat, as they are described in the wiki/game description. However Anet tried to make them bursters. So to be able to become a good burst class, you need to spend your utility slots for dmg/adrenaline etc. Which means you lack defense. And remember, warriors lack guardians innate defense “f” skills or ranger’s pet help, or engineer’s toolbelt, or necro’s lifebar… you get the point.

In the current meta, conditions are powerful. There are zillions of blocks/invuls, insane bursts and precious gap closer/ escape skills. Warrior lacks most of these. At best his skills have a long cd. His mobility is weak, to be able to move he has to spend his sword skills (and that is dangerous if you meet your enemy at that instant).

For my opinion, this meta is not that badly balanced. There will be problems with reapers and heralds but people are learning now. There are only two “huge” problems that I see;

1- Core classes are too weak to compete. Elite’s can even the field easily if there is a small skill gap only. And if the skill cap is same, elite’s have the advantage.

2- Warriors are not designed, at core, for the current meta and elite system. Without blinklike skills, or combined staibility+condi cleanse/protection skills, warriors will be burned with the amount of cc this meta has. They might not need a big buff, but they definitely need a huge rework.

ps: and also gs 3 has an annoying bug (still not fixed).

Depends on the class you are playing. For a core warrior like me, everything feels op. Even the critters.

Well I have seen some very good thiefs in the game. New build with the daze combo can do wanders. However I can not say that they are ok because I was playing with my core warrior and everything is better than him

With all the cool new professions a game balance and a huge bug fix is needed. Especially for core classes.