Guild Wars 2

Best tip I can give you is to reroll to a different class. Guardian is good.

Warrior is pretty much garbage atm. If you’re a pvper, you’re pretty much hurting your team by playing warrior. If you doing fractals or dungeons, you’re spending hundreds of gold for a gearset designed to buff other classes so they can be stronger.

Nobody brings warriors for dps, and if they do it’s only because there’s a phalanx warrior already there.

If you insist on playing warrior, just keep your expectations low. Very low.

Warriors are buff bots with decent dps. If you wanted to play a dps class you should’ve picked ranger or something.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Urukami.4796:

Just a question, but what are you trying to achieve with your build?

I wanted a jack of all trades build that can have a fair chance against most if not all other classes in a 1vs1 while roaming in WvW.

Citing an extreme example, I don’t want to run a heavy condi build that has zero chance against a diamond skin elementalist.

I understand though that it is not very possible to have a build that is 50-50 chance against every other classes’ builds. there will be fights favoring my build and fights that favor the enemy’s build.

But I don’t want a build that has zero chance against another particular build like condi vs diamond skin.

I’m trying to find a build that has at least a 30% chance of winning against any other builds. That is, even if I meet the worst counter to my build, it is still a 30% chance I can win.

Carrion chill reaper does this. I know you don’t like reaper, but don’t hamstring yourself just because. Unless you want to play a warrior or something.

Just dinged 80 in my third necro tonight, and what you unlock depends on how you’re leveling. I ran staff + dagger/warhorn with signet of locust, signet of spite (great burst against veterans) and whichever well does the most damage, don’t remember the name. Spite can be replaced for the other damaging well for absolutely stupid aoe damage. The minions elite mastery has always been my favorite as he can do a ton of damage and his stun is handy, plus you don’t have to worry about cool down management.

First trait line should be spite so you can grab whatever procs might on auto attacks under 50%. It’s a great trait line for damage.

I’ve leveled as condi previously and it does excellently when you can group mobs together, but condi damage leaves something to be desired against solo mobs thanks to relatively slow ramp up times.

If you’re leveling in EotM or some sort of karma train, a standard wellomancer build is ideal, with both damage wells, axe/wh + staff.

Honestly though, necros are probably the easiest class to level the j the game thanks to how versatile they can be. You have four or five different builds that will be fast and virtually anything will still be viable. Play around with it a bit and explore what Tue class has to offer.

Hey everyone, I just hit 80 on my new necro and got myself a full zerker exotic set for HoT content/elite grind. I know berserker gear is viable and ideal for dungeons and whatnot, but as a condition lover, and a massive fan of the current chill-reaper sPvP meta build that runs carrion, I’m wondering if a Carrion or Rampager (or rabid, hell) build is viable for open world, exploration, and wvw play.

I love the versatility of the sPvP build and want to have similar effectiveness elsewhere while still being able to play any game mode.

Long story kept short: is Carrion gonna hamstring me in terms of damage when playing pve content, or should I choose a different armor set-up?

Because my other (ex) main was a warrior, and God knows I won’t be playing that kitten again for ~6 months. I leveled a new warrior specifically for HoT, got the elite spec fully done, and then hated the state of the class so much that I rolled a second (third total) necro to play instead, because my other 80 necro was a charr, and I wasn’t super fond of his animations.

I’ve always loved necro. I took a chance on warrior with the xpac and it backfired massively. However, I learned a lot about ANet in the process and now know exactly where to put my money and my efforts.

Don’t play warrior. It’s easily the worst class in the game in PvP thanks to ANet phoning in its elite spec, WvW included. The class offers virtually no meaningful survivability in the way that nearly every other class has. In PvE, you’re primarily a buff-bot with above-average DPS, taken for your ability to stack might for the rest of your group.

The catch is that the runes needed to effectively run that build will cost roughly 14gold EACH.

If you ever plan to branch out, broaden your horizons, whatever, don’t do it on a warrior. ANet has pretty much written the class off in HoT, gave some courtesy buffs designed to encourage f2p players to purchase HoT (they literally only buffed the elite spec when the entire class is garbage, if that’s not transparent then I don’t know what is), and haven’t so much as acknowledged warriors since.

Again, if it were between Guardian and Warrior, pick Guardian. If it were between ANY class and warrior, just don’t pick warrior.

Oh, so THIS is how synergy works. I was thinking my condi/chill combos on my necro was synergy. Guess I’m kittened.

Jay.3409:

Fan of GS/H wombo combo for warriors, but lately ive been finding 0… yes 0 other warrior pvp’ers

is everyone moving on or did warrior get such a bad patch this week?

are they still efficient at going up to faces and just smashing their skills up their 2 holes??

Anet basically screwed the pooch in regard to warrior gameplay with HoT. I’ve seen a very small handful in ~100 games since release, and none of them had any impact on the game whatsoever, regardless of personal skill.

If you haven’t already put the effort into leveling a warrior, I’d suggest switching to a different class. Revenants are extremely strong and still have that warrior feel, at least according to many other players. Necro is fun if you enjoy condi builds (and they’re borderline broken in comparison to warriors – actually contributing to fights and killing people without having to massively micromanage/cycle your stuns and various combos is amazing). Pretty much anything but thief, who are also weak and primarily relegated to backcapping points (still infinitely more useful than anything warriors can do!)

TL:DR – wars are trash, Anet has proven they don’t care, everyone is abandoning warrior in droves. Get out early so you’re not left too far behind in the HP grind.

Mcrocha.3891:

SH is much more fun than Circle Dance Dance Revolution. Like to see it be the top mode.

Try defending.

lol

Dude is obv trying to run on the fotm train, but he’s still garbage so it doesn’t matter.

online.1278:

The Real Problem why warrior sucks now is becuz of so many random evading attacks, random blind, random block, random slow, random CCs, random invulnerability, random dodge of other classes.

Even fast hand base line will not solve this problem and I am pretty sure of it Becuase why war sucks is becuz we can’t hit but everything is missing. Zerker (either stance or berserker) Warrior is def unplayable right now becuz warrior does not have ability like evading attack but only purely direct dmg on enemy that is very much predictable.

For support warrior, they heal less than celestial druid unless warior uses cleric or settler amulet plus Banner regen heal. But with those amulet they have absolutely less damage than druid. Even though war having Cleric level of amulet, cele druid does similar healing support to Cleric level of support warrior. So if you run shout warrior it is a bit more playable than zerker warrior, but its like inferior version of the druid and you will get rekt by cele druid ranger at the end, takes long time tho.

Warrior is just almost un-playble in high tier of TPvP matchs where you get matched against high tier people who are in the guild like The Abjured or Apex or watever. I feel like I am getting avg -15% less winrate after HoT expansion. And every people who got me in their party saying like “can you plz stop playing kittening warrior?”

I think it’s just time to quit the game and come back when warrior become normal state. it will take at least more than half an year to one year becuz

Daredevil – Dagger/Pistol
Dragonhunter – Meditrapper
Druid – Celestial Avatar
Herald – Power Shiro
Scrapper – Celestial Hammer

these are selected as meta team comps in metabattle.com
which means anet will support only those classes for more than half an year. They will not correct balance until something happened in world tournament and I am pretty sure of it. And we witnessed alrrady that nerfing dd cele ele took more than an year.

The game become like pay to win right now.
Even Tarcis ditched warrior as well. I am probly gonna take long break too.

Kittening Warrior!

You know it’s bad when the guy that’s been fervently defending warrior for the last three weeks pretty much says “kitten it” and suggests he’s taking a break.

I’m just glad I have my necro and Fallout 4 to play.

Level 35 necro with 33 ToK’s in the bank, still haven’t touched crafting. I mean, I already even have an 80 necro, but even rerolling a class that I already had was more appealing than continuing to play Warrior.

G-kittening-G.

“Chilled to the Bone” is a good one.

Oh wait, that’s necro.

Yea, kitten warriors.

Slininstien.7546:

Thunderbird.4298:

1. God tier
2. Good (Meta) tier
3. viable tier
4. kinda viable tier
5. not viable but always end up on my team in solo qs tier
6. kitten tier (never seen in pvp) would rather be in a 4 v 5.

- Guardian – Dugon Hunter—#3

lol

At least until Anet gets their kitten together and figures out what they’re gonna do with the profession. It’s worthless as a teammate and too easy to kill as an enemy. There’s just no point in the class even being around anymore.

I can virtually guarantee you that EotM isn’t hurting WvW population as much as everyone thinks, and removing it won’t fix WvW woes whatsoever. Yea, there may be a small influx of people into WvW, but probably not even enough for any meaningful coverage.

The issues lie with the fact that WvW just has awful rewards and is absolutely boring for long periods of time, the blob vs blob fights are TOO big for my taste, and the new map is laughably awful (whoever designed it should seriously be fired.) I’d rather have little downtime in my ktrain while still having a decent amount of smaller skirmishes. VERY rarely do I see all 3 factions cooperate into a ktrain without fighting. Usually it’s two servers trying to ktrain while the other is out defending/ganking. The map is too small for all three to just ktrain around without running into each other.

I digress. If you want WvW “fixed,” destroying EotM wont suddenly make it happen. All it amounts to is petulant, childish “they’re having more fun than I am so let’s make everything suck instead.” Address WvW’s issues. EotM is a very, very small aspect of WvW’s issues.

choovanski.5462:

yeah, those warrior buffs are sorely needed.

revert Rampage and Vigorous Shouts nerfs, baseline fast hands, you know what to do anet.

It’s pretty obvious at this point that ANet has little desire to address Warrior issues. They did a small buff to Berserker to try and actually make people want to play it over vanilla warrior (because anyone playing warrior that hasn’t purchased HoT wont if Berserker isn’t used), but vanilla warrior is still kittening garbage compared to the other 8 classes.

Kotte.2460:

it needs to go, its just to much.

Somehow I feel like you wouldn’t be around to enjoy it.

Solori.6025:

Xillllix.3485:

Solori.6025:

Xillllix.3485:

Well over 20k damage on a single button press at 1200 range on a 3 second cooldown is obviously totally broken. I don’t know what Anet was thinking but it made me stop playing my main class in pvp.

Can you provide a screenshot of you getting a 20k ruin? On a player

The skill hits 3 times. 9k + 7k + 5k = 21k and that’s just for a normal hit, I got hit for 14k once, with 2 other targets it can get near 25-28k total damage with full might stacks.

…….
I’m not sure you’re serious about this.

The only way you would get 21k damage would be to superspeed through every sweet spot of CoR and get hit WILLINGLY 3 times.

You are also either lying about your damage values or you are taking them from a debuffed target.

CoR on a target with no vuln will take

3k-melee ( when hit from the side with the lifesteal trait, otherwise it’s around 2.7k)

4.5k mid ( Or 4.1k without the lifesteal damage)

5.3k max range (OR 4.7k without lifesteal)

Constantly had 3-4 might stacks, target had no vuln.

Got the added 7% damage bonus for having fury and 5% damage bonus from runes of strength.

I’ll ask again.
Where is your screenshot of this 21k CoR

http://imgur.com/gxBd7pb

That all happened in roughly ~3 seconds total. I’m far from experienced in PvP, but taking that sort of damage IMMEDIATELY in a fight doesn’t exactly allow me to then outplay a revenant, especially after he immediately switched to S/S and UA’d me to death.

I’m not saying that Revenant’s are OP, or anything like that, because I don’t have enough experience to justify any claim like that. What I can say, however, is that seeing this happen even one time, that fast, means I probably won’t stick around long enough to see it happen a second time. If people think that’s fun, then awesome. Good for them. I can go find a game that’s actually competitive and mainstream and, well, balanced. I play GW for fun, and nothing about having that happen to me is fun.

I feel even better about Berserker after every level my new necro gains.

Honestly the longer I play this game, the more I dislike the stuff that Anet does to screw over its’ playerbase.

I’ve come to the realization that I now play a kitten-tier class in PvP, will never have ascended gear so I wont be able to do Fractals/Raids, and am relegated to open world pve or blobbing in WvW, which is also unsupported by Anet.

I need a new f2p MMO.

I’m releveling my necro right now. I have an 80 necro already, but it’s a charr, and I’m just not interested in charr aesthetics anymore. There are parts I like, but human is just.. better.

I want to try Guardian, but DH just doesn’t appeal to me whatsoever, and I don’t know how good Guardian is outside of that.

Six, technically. Two 80 warriors (rerolled my Charr to Human because armor options suck on Charr imho), one 80 necro that I don’t play because I don’t want to grind another set of HP, a level 1 mule, and two misc that I level/delete frequently out of frustration for having to level another character.

I know a lot of people are still running GreatAxe in sPvP and WvW and just trying to outplay/contribute as much as possible to try not to kitten over their team by playing a warrior. I don’t see Berserkers ever, and power Berserker seems like a damage downgrade that isn’t made up for in “utility.”

Is GreatAxe with Mara’s and Str/Hoelbrak runes pretty much the meta?

It took me 8 days to finish my Berserker spec, and I noticed a SUBSTANTIAL decline in the amount of people actively working on HP’s throughout that time. It got to the point where it was actually faster to run EotM and grind WvW levels for HP than to actually go to the new zones and get groups for them.

I will NEVER level any of my alts in this game because of this system.

Krittz.6013:

The good news is I don’t have to repeat what has already been said on this thread and on others.

I’ll just add my single note that, lately, even if I manage to get off a full 100b, I hit like a wet noodle. Example:

Just last night, I saw a teammate down a warrior and saw two people to rez the warrior up. So I pop my stab so I don’t get knocked down by the warrior’s downed skill. The rezzers was a necro and another class I couldn’t pick out. Prob an engi I think. I had a zerker amulet equip with holbrak runes. That was a moment a zerker warrior should shine. Three targets to get might from GS crits/zerker? What could go wrong!? Everything; they all three ate the 100b and the WW and one ate a guaranteed crit with intel sigil on axe. After all of that, the warrior gets rezzed, none of them were at even half hp… wut? What is a warrior supposed to do now to even do damage? I’m shy of full zerker spec in PvP and people can stand in 100b? I know for a fact some of them weren’t tank specs either. I expected to down at least one of them.

Oh well, I will just keep at it and keep using my wet noodle GS and hope for a buff sometime within the next year. :P

I noticed the same, really. I do more damage with axe MH than I do with GS, regardless of whether or not I land even half of HB. Only problem with axe MH now is Evis crits for like 6k tops and is immuned/missed/evaded randomly from passives now.

Anet isn’t putting any effort into PvP, so I don’t see why the players should feel obligated to do so.

PvP since Oct 23 has been a complete kittening joke. The idiots at ANet spent so much time on new PvE content that they completely screwed balance in PvP. Completely. I’ve taken 25k PASSIVE damage in under 3 seconds.

ANet went to great lengths to make PvP just completely not fun. Combine that with them completely ignoring warriors since the expansion just shows where their priorities lie – and it’s not balance.

But hey, the white/black feather backpieces are back on the Gem Store, so make sure you go give up your money.

Warrior has probably never been in a worse spot. I’d stay away unless you want to play Guardian.

The only viable warrior build requires pressing 1 until your adrenaline bar is full and then F2>F1, repeat.

Lol.

I’d almost be okay with a class redesign at this point. One huge issue with warriors is that their mechanics are predictable and easily countered because they’re completely one-dimensional. Everyone knows exactly how a GreatAxe player will play, often using shield4 into HB, or a Hammer/GS working similarly with a stun into HB.

Success on a lot of warrior builds requires your opponent to just not be paying attention. That should never be the case. Warrior abilities need to not be so straightforward and one-dimensional. Necro GS is a great example of how to design a weapon. Huge cleave on their 1, great two-dimensional mechanic on 2, debuffs on 3 with great damage, 4 is a good AoE field that they can bait people into sitting in to do passive damage while they combo something else with it, and a pull on 5 that also debuffs.

Why is it that warriors can’t get anything but absolutely straightforward damage abilities? GS has a single Vuln stack and a cripple. Necro GS has two chills, 12 stacks of vuln, blind and cripple.

I get that warrior is supposed to be the class that you shove all of the mouthbreathers into, but that’s not how it actually works. The class isn’t just morons playing it, so why restrict it so heavily to such simple gameplay? We used to be able to use finesse to counterplay or outplay opponents, or play a support role to help teammates while still being viable ourselves. Now? Other classes have so many options that we can’t reasonable finesse anything without being locked down, bled down, chilled to death (making many of our cooldowns even longer) or just bursted down because we have no real defense.

You gave every other class an elite spec that is fun to play, versatile and multi-dimensional. You gave warriors another regular spec that has no real synergy with other traitlines, is still very one-dimensional, mediocre damage and very long cooldowns. Three seconds of burning on a 20/25s CD when the build is built around burning? kitten you.

Zeloheim.1374:

anyone else refreshing this sub daily checking for a dev response? all we want really is to know that if theyre working on it or not. at least gives us an answer if the specialization will change or if it will stay like this.

I have been multiple times a day. I really don’t want to reroll another character that I’m unfamiliar with the mechanics of, because I’m concerned I wont like it. I’m already reluctant to play my necro because I prefer the oldschool scepter/dagger necro which isn’t really viable anymore.

I like the look and feel of warrior. I’m kinda kittened that it’s not really a meaningful part of the game anymore.

Dante.1763:

bLind.6278:

Race change token, since Anet doesn’t want to put the work in to fix some clipping, why not let us change to a race that doesn’t suffer from it?

Just a note, theyve said a few times that they wont be doing this, simply because of the personal story.

Its not the best reason, but thats theirs.

I know, but a boy can dream. Companies have changed their minds on this before, and a new expansion is a good time to ask again.

Drow.2081:

Why can’t you just buy another character slot?

This is a thread stating Anet doesn’t have enough to sell in their gem store. And character slots are in the gem store. And outfits are account wide.

I’m really at a loss here. Why is it hard for some people to have more than one player character?

I have slots for new characters. I’m just too lazy/stubborn to roll a 3rd necro, grind gear, world exploration, etc.

Race change token, since Anet doesn’t want to put the work in to fix some clipping, why not let us change to a race that doesn’t suffer from it?

The new warrior meta is to reroll Reaper or Dragonhunter. All we can do, really.

I’m just glad I have an 80 necro, even if it is a Charr. I’m considering leveling a revenant as well, just to see if I like the feel of it. That’s one thing I liked about warrior, but now it’s just so frustrating to play compared to other classes. Warrior is easy to play, but very predictable because of it, which is no fun.

OP makes post about new DPS build asking for criticism, proceeds to get ultra kitten when criticism is given and attacks anyone not fellating him.

If you’re a warrior, you’re trash. End of story.

It’s not you, it’s the class. It’s below crap-tier at this point, and ANet seems to not care.

No. I play a warrior, and our elite spec is largely trash outside of extremely high-end meta PvE builds. I’ve spent probably equal time doing the Halloween event and WvW/EotM than I have the new content. What’s worse is that I feel like I’m forced to do the new content. It’s not my choice to do the new content, it’s forced onto me.

I don’t like that.

I love how that site was brigaded by reddit to force positive reviews from the fanboys.

ColinJohanson.2394:

Hey folks,

Lots of passionate feedback and discussion in here on either side, and a friendly reminder that constructive feedback helps us make better games (please do keep it constructive!) We don’t always get every detail perfect the first time, but I like to think one of our strengths is we’re always open to and listening to feedback from our community and making good decisions based on that feedback.

Ultimately, we’re thrilled with the parts of HoT everyone is enjoying. Your passion is awesome, and it’s part of why we all love creating this game. In particular, in game we’ve seen a really positive reaction to the game from folks who are busy playing, which has been really cool to see.

While we never like to rush and make snap decisions, in particular with a game that’s basically been out less than three days; I think there are some fair points in here for us to discuss. Much like other feedback about HoT, we’ll be discussing this as well!

Thanks again!

So, how long should we expect to wait before you guys create something more reasonable? Three months? Six? Fallout 3 is releasing next month, and I’m sure the November releases can keep me occupied until you guys figure out how to not lie to us.

jazzllanna.1278:

And now I just tabbed back into the game and this is what I see from another player http://imgur.com/PPAv6oK

People cannot complete the skill points without paying other players?! Oh my this is not going to be good in the long run.

It’s obvious that ANet doesn’t care. Player interaction is a good thing, right?

Vayne.8563:

Seera.5916:

Some players wanted to experience the new content (excluding elite specs) while playing fully unlocked elite specs.

With this change, most players have to experience the new content (excluding elite specs) while playing either a core spec or a partial elite spec.

ANet didn’t communicate that they felt the elite specs were part of the end game character progression. So many people assumed that what unlocks it had, if any, would not take as long as they’ve discovered the current method takes.

I wanted enough money to buy a legendary the day I started playing. The question is, is that want a reasonable thing. I don’t believe it is.

People also wanted progression and for years have complained about lack of progression. The Elite spec is the character progression, and the masteries are the account progression BY DESIGN.

So people can want anything they want, but it isn’t going to affect design decisions that run much deeper.

I have five characters with world complete and another that’s almost completed the world. If they significantly lowered the point total,, I’d have no character progression. And that’s good for some people and not good for others. Furthermore there are a lot of people it’s good for that don’t think it is.

Both my sons played Guild Wars 2 until they got their max level gear and stopped playing. They came back only when ascended gear came out. They got their ascended gear and stopped playing again.

Too many people need stuff to work for that’s linear, to max out their power. It’s unfair but that’s how it is in this genre. If you want to blame someone, blame WoW who set up that situation and everyone ended up copying it.

It’s what players have come to expect when playing an MMO.

Anet’s first responsibility to the game is to keep people playing it. And the masses, unfortunately, have been programmed by other games to need something specific to work towards.

So you’re saying that you’re perfectly fine that the game is taking a WoW-esque carrot on a stick approach to progression?

I imagine a lot of people play this game because they know that once they get their gear, they’re done and can actually enjoy the content that’s in the game, where progression comes from improving your ability to play the game well, to learn to new, accomplish new dungeons and achievements.

But no, you want the game to become WoW-lite. After all, progression is everything to you.

And anyone without map completion is obviously just a sub-human lazy kitten to you, right?

Think of it optimistically – you didn’t get filched out of $50 like the rest of us. You got grifted for only $30.

Honestly, I wouldn’t doubt that ANet will be banning everyone that didn’t purchase from a sponsored site regardless of whether the keys are legit.

kitten I probably won’t even be finishing my main.

It’s funny that all of the positive reviews are blanket 10’s that do little more than admonish anyone giving a negative review. The fanboys are out in a tour de force, only there to skew the rating.

It should be a 3.9 permanently. I think that’s accurate.

Probably just gonna play my necro, which really kittenes me off because I releveled my warrior just because I had intended on playing it in HoT, and then this kitten happens.

Fuji.6284:

They’ve explained it multiple times already. Dungeons were generating too much raw gold, which caused an excessive amount of gold flowing into the economy over time. Bottom line is that it’s harmful to the economy.

Which is exactly why Silverwastes has been untouched in how long?

Oh wait, that money comes from selling mats and not the farm. You’ll have to excuse the 50g a week I make in Silverwastes as an extremely casual player without selling a single material as atypical.