i raise both hands to OP’s proposal
As much as I like dueling, it simply wouldn’t work. Bunker v bunker would go forever and burst v burst would be done in an opener.
that’d be fine. draws award 0 points, bunkers can’t win.
Exactly. For those worried about bunker vs bunker, it’d work itself out since bunkers would be draws and no one gets points. So we’ll see more damage builds coming out. Or boon stripping builds.
Necros would be delighted to find a preponderance of guardians and eles will learn not to be so boon focused.
A 1v1 dueling system might be just what this game needs to encourage people to try new and innovative builds utilizing trait lines that were previously ignored.
This game can never work 1v1 since you can just buildwars the other profession, like seeing you run a necro, I will just go mesmer.
You won’t know what the profession is until you meet them in the arena
. So you’ll be forced to run at least a somewhat balanced build. This system will be perfect for encouraging that.
It may be worth adding that the two blocks themselves can do a massive amount of damage. That thief in stealth trying to backstab you will not get a chance to hit you a second time when he’s downed by the counter attack.
A great side benefit of the build while fighting other mesmers is that you don’t need to really worry your head about finding the right one amongst their clones except for the actual casting of the phantasms themselves. It doesn’t matter how much they stealth, or how many clones they produce. You can’t fool those deadly machines
In fact in a way this build punishes stealth because there’s a good chance the attack recharge of the phantasms will be up during the stealth duration causing all of them to immediately burst as soon as the foe comes out of it.
That’s a dangerous thought…
What’s needed to be done depends on what strategy is agreed upon. And you can’t agree upon something unless you talk about it.
P.S. “Strategize” is a pretty common word
There is no strategy, we improvise.
Speak for yourself. Tell that to all the other winning teams who have a strategy.
When i play with experienced-enough pugs we all know what to do and there really is no reason to say anything. If at the beginning i see that no one is going for our close point i will do that and if i don’t then someone else will, If on legacy 3 of us are going far point and i see that there’s only 1 enemy i will switch to middle etc., we’re not dumb.
And what if other people have a different strategy in their head? Like some people prefer 1-3-1. Others like 4-1. How do you know what they’re thinking?
If they want to strategize (is that even a word?) then by all means, the point is – if everyone knows what is needed to be done we can play without saying anything.
What’s needed to be done depends on what strategy is agreed upon. And you can’t agree upon something unless you talk about it.
P.S. “Strategize” is a pretty common word
I can understand that people dont really care about winning, honestly what is the point in winning, there is NOTHING or NO ONE to compare you with, it proves to me how casual this MMO is in PvP.
The PvP in this game needs a lot more and the way this is going its getting worse each patch with false promises…..
Im playing other PvP games now like bloodline champions, archeblade, that last one is in open beta and has more features then GW2 after 8 months, it makes you think…..
For me I PvP to earn glory, get better ranks and show off in that way. tPvP is the best way of getting glory if you win otherwise it’s a waste of time since you sacrifice personal glory for the big reward at the end.
Which is why it’s so kitten important for me to win there.
Hammerwarriors or mesmers without portal are in the category of r10+ players. They don’t know yet the full potential of their class when it comes to pvp.
For e.g. when I see a signet-warrior, I promise it’s a beginner, who has no understanding what to do on the map.
A good player runs viable builds, what you listed above are not viable builds (guardian excluded).I’m probably misunderstanding, but are you saying all warriors should be taking shouts/banners over signets for tournaments?
On the original topic, I find that solo join tpvp is basically exactly the same as hot join with people running around disorganized trying to kill stuff without focusing on the map objectives. Even if you form a random group and then queue, if you don’t have voice comms, it is very hard to be effective because typing during the match is just not feasible.
I’ve often found that a quick rundown of the strategy before the match starts helps immeasurably throughout the game. So many times I’ve told an ele or a guardian “stay at this point and bunker” and they reply with “I’m GC”. So I choose someone else, they say “ok” and actually do their job throughout the entire match leading to victory and a sweet little match win box
True, talking during a fight is infeasible for the most part. But before and while on a point? It’s easy with no downsides!
I agree, but my point is that that is no different than hot join – you could do that there as well and probably get similar results. I guess people who play tournaments are a bit more goal-oriented and are less likely to quit mid game and maybe a bit more likely to listen to strategy… but from my experience, solo queueing is not that much different than hot join unfortunately.
That’s about it. In hotjoin the goal is to maximize glory. Hence you’ll see everyone crowding a point to get the cap. I’ve never seen that (except once or twice) in tPvP because the benefit of winning (200 glory + chest) outweighs what you would get individually so everyone wants to win and hence strategy automatically comes into play. It’s not “every person for themselves” like in hotjoin.
Hammerwarriors or mesmers without portal are in the category of r10+ players. They don’t know yet the full potential of their class when it comes to pvp.
For e.g. when I see a signet-warrior, I promise it’s a beginner, who has no understanding what to do on the map.
A good player runs viable builds, what you listed above are not viable builds (guardian excluded).I’m probably misunderstanding, but are you saying all warriors should be taking shouts/banners over signets for tournaments?
On the original topic, I find that solo join tpvp is basically exactly the same as hot join with people running around disorganized trying to kill stuff without focusing on the map objectives. Even if you form a random group and then queue, if you don’t have voice comms, it is very hard to be effective because typing during the match is just not feasible.
I’ve often found that a quick rundown of the strategy before the match starts helps immeasurably throughout the game. So many times I’ve told an ele or a guardian “stay at this point and bunker” and they reply with “I’m GC”. So I choose someone else, they say “ok” and actually do their job throughout the entire match leading to victory and a sweet little match win box
True, talking during a fight is infeasible for the most part. But before and while on a point? It’s easy with no downsides!