Guild Wars 2

Jahn.7019:

Xyne.9104:

Kiltor.9362:

Zidane.5297:

Kryyg.8576:

Let’s be honest, here’s what happened. WM/MEOW/etc transferred to BG and started fighting NA/OC/AZ timezone and got wrecked. Jang and co seeing they couldn’t compete changed their schedules and started logging in en masse for EU TZ which was dead for the other 2 servers.

Whatever may come out of Jang’s mouth, 2 things are clear: 1. WM isn’t in it for the “challenge”. and 2. They don’t have the chops for T1 combat.

WM is nowhere near as big as Choo/TW/Hire/Fire/HzH/EMP. Their zerg consists of 15-20 WM and the rest pugs.

The goal of WvW is to put points on the board and WM does a fine job at that. Waha and co didn’t seem to mind to PvDoor when no one on BG or SoR was on, so I don’t see the problem.

You sound real salty.

here is TW in EBBL last night. have fun enjoy folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbtU0Dxi7LQ

Nice vid, you guys were out number 2 to 1, and still managed to beat em up to pulps for this 2 instances.

Looks like 3 to 1, if not 4 to 1 odds. But yeah, good fights regardless.

Yeah I would say 3 to 1 is accurate. Those are the kind of fights that make the game fun.

wish.1027:

Im in BG BL ATM and down for some duels (Unless youre a super defensive run away bleed thf/ele/engineer, in which case neither of us will win unless youre bad)
wish.3102

Just saw this post of yours from 16 hours ago. I was still at work then anyway.

Mayoken.9851:

Idk if I saw 500-600 PPT on enemy tick I would rally the server and defeat the enemy. I would not just take it in the rear and cry -__-

Sorry, but I am at work right now as is the vast majority of North America.

I will rally this evening, when I am home and able to log in ..and kick your teeth in just like I do every night.

renmei.3102:

Do people really enjoy playing on a stacked timezone that much? I remember when SOR was like that in T2 for a week or two after SBI had imploded and TC, while doing their best, were totally outnumbered. SOR pretty much had all 4 maps capped and there were a swarm of us just wasting time sitting outside TC’s spawn. It was the most kitten shameful and boring half hour I’ve spent in GW2 and I logged in disgust and didn’t go back to WvW until SOR finally moved to T1.

I can’t imagine people actually paying gold to transfer into such a situation and continuing to come out for weeks and months to PVDoor and look at an all green map.

Yeah I agree with you completely. I was bored to tears, hell, all of us were. That is why we were building rams in a line across the zone and trying to synch the flames. There was really no point in logging in then and the victory that week was completely meaningless and left a bad taste in my mouth.

Genocide.4506:

woop woop… Score Update!!!!!

Ticking away at 565 ppt only means there is a severe shortage of enemies to fight.

That has to be extremely boring for the players online then. Hell, I get bored when I kill actual players that don’t put up good fights, I can only imagine what these guild are going through not even being able to do that.

MrForz.1953:

LetoII.3782:

Death by Covenn however is a frequent and understandable occurance. And fun to watch.

Death by cliff too.

Gravity is my biggest enemy in this game. I would not be lying if I told you that at least half of my deaths in the past month have been due to falling.

Burl.9567:

If anyone dies 1v1 to an ele with a staff, it is time to reroll another class.

Quite true.

Fuzzion.2504:

covenn.7165:

wish.1027:

My guardian can fail stack bleeds and reset?

Oh you are a guardian. Endless fights with guardians are amusing the first couple of times, but I generally can’t do enough damage to kill you and they definitely stand no chance of killing me. You don’t happen to be the guardian that I fought with for 30 minutes before we gave up and ran in opposite directions (I am a little asura Ele)

A 30 min fight? Thats insane.

Honestly. I don’t bother with guardians, thieves, or ele’s unless the ele is glass cannon or has a staff out. It is just a waste of time.

DKNS.2135:

covenn.7165:

DKNS.2135:

Also, where were you when TSym chose SoR? I can’t recall you saying something back then.

How is that in any way relevant to my post?

Oh and I was there welcoming them to the server in one of these weekly threads and thanking them for choosing a challenge instead of jumping on a bandwagon. Not sure what you are talking about to be honest. I only made half a dozen posts about how I hoped they would help us out after our east coast players log off.

Oh god i am done with this. This is just ridiculous. I don’t know how anyone can justify this in any way. Sounds more like trolling. Yea that’s it, everything makes so much sense now.

Reported for Trolling in match thread.

So you report people that don’t agree with you or you don’t understand? That isn’t very cool and I would hope the moderators see through it.

There was nothing wrong with my response to you. I suggest you read it again.

wish.1027:

My guardian can fail stack bleeds and reset?

Oh you are a guardian. Endless fights with guardians are amusing the first couple of times, but I generally can’t do enough damage to kill you and they definitely stand no chance of killing me. You don’t happen to be the guardian that I fought with for 30 minutes before we gave up and ran in opposite directions (I am a little asura Ele)

CuddleStrike.8215:

Didn’t you know? Everyone cries on here! So many tears!

(Of laughter I might add)

:) absolutely.

We all know forums are super serious stuff too.

Neuromancer.2148:

I see some people excited because of the good momentum we have going, but I haven’t seen anyone really “chest thumping.”

Many of those types of posts usually end up getting moderated. That may be why you havent really seen them.

pot.6805:

Guilds “should” only go where they want to and where they believe is the best for their guild. Whether that’s based on community, fun factor, how well they mesh, scouts or any other logical reason, it is their kitten choice.

They aren’t pawns to be moved around on a chessboard to satisfy your every need. And they shouldn’t be bashed for months on end because they didn’t choose your team first in dodge ball.

Did anyone really say anything different? I would think that would be common sense for a guild to go to a place that fits them best.

oxide.8324:

People on these forums cry about BG getting “mass transfers”

Please feel free to quote ‘crying’ …I didn’t see any from anyone really unless they were in deleted posts.

oxide.8324:

Sardonia.8196:

Just not sure why they did not go to SoR

WM didn’t go to SoR because SoR players were sending them nasty messages or something along those lines.

That isn’t exactly the truth. Please fix your post.

DKNS.2135:

Also, where were you when TSym chose SoR? I can’t recall you saying something back then.

How is that in any way relevant to my post?

Oh and I was there welcoming them to the server in one of these weekly threads and thanking them for choosing a challenge instead of jumping on a bandwagon. Not sure what you are talking about to be honest. I only made half a dozen posts about how I hoped they would help us out after our east coast players log off.

LetoII.3782:

Says the guy who thinks fail stacking bleeds and resetting for 20 minutes is a good duel

Oh he is a thief. That explains quite a few things. I will edit my other post.

wish.1027:

LetoII.3782:

You have the same issue in SoRbl that JQ does, it’s the wolf den.
We, along with our steadfast Rallians stomp the everliving crud from any guild fool enough to set foot in the sanctum till they ragequit. ^.^

I find this comment funny since every single time Ive ever found anyone from TW or TWL alone in a 1vs1 and once even a me vs2 they ran from me to their tower/keep/zerg for safety because they cant fight.

Hearsay unless you have fraps to prove it. What class/guild are you? (edit: I see you are a thief apparently from another post)

Edit:

Yeah, thieves are a waste of time to fight. They stealth to reset over and over and over, then once they realize they have no chance of killing me whatsoever, they just run away. I don’t even bother wasting my time fighting the class because unless they are stupid, the bags just run and hide.

FractalChaos.6539:

DKNS.2135:

Luckily, we came back strong

See this is what irks me most about WvW.

Blackgate didn’t “come back strong”, Blackgate got a bunch of guild transfers. Had you not gotten significant and large transfers, you wouldn’t have come back in any way, weak or strong.

Jade Quarry wasn’t the top dog for so long because of player skill; they were top dog because they had more players evenly distributed across all time zones. As soon as they lost a few players and their coverage weakened…poof.

Sanctum of Rall didn’t get into Tier 1 because of its skilled players, it got into Tier 1 because a bunch of guilds transferred over when we were in Tier 3, after hearing about a particularly close match we had with (I believe at the time) Dragonbrand and …sorry, totally forget 3rd server. My apologies.

When is anyone going to fess up? The only way to win in T1 is to have more players than your opponents. Even upleveled, undergeared, and unskilled players can take an entire map if they outnumber the enemy 3 to 1.

Well that isn’t entirely accurate, but I agree somewhat. I think SoR had the guilds and momentum to make it to T2 without the transfers eventually. The transfers were absolutely required to get into T1 though.

I also don’t think numbers alone is the only way to win, but it most certainly is the way to win in the current state of T1. You only tick at 500 when you are fighting doors instead of enemies, we all should know that by now. Ideally, the three servers would have enough people to stay competitive with each other 24-7 so that skill and teamwork determine the winner. Unfortunately though, people continue to join servers that don’t need the people in those time slots and add to the problem rather than working to resolve it. Until something changes, who wins week to week is irrelevant and meaningless.

DKNS.2135:

Eventually, transferring guilds will see that SoR lack some and they will get it, much in the same way that almost every guild avoided transferring to JQ for the past few months because everyone knew that they didn’t need any.

Actually, I think you are wrong. JQ still got transfers (though not as much as in the past) and BG also got transfers despite being stacked at the time. People tend to jump on bandwagons when gaming because rather than seeking challenge, they want to coast to victory.

The recent influx of guilds to BG that have shifted the power balance so much only proves that. They could have just as easily went to SoR and made an actual three way fight out of things, where each and every week is up for grabs by any server…. but no, they chose to pile on a server that was already capable of winning T1 and had.

Personally, I find it extremely boring… but to each their own.

MagiKarp.8201:

scootshoot.6583:

oxide.8324:

Orion.9075:

Just sucks that our NA is so strong, but them other servers (cough BG cough) have to buy guilds to stay competitive. In actuality, if we had any EU/SEA presence (compared to JQ/BG) this whole thing would be a different story.

SoR’s NA is only the strongest because they have the most NA players of all T1 servers. .

heh, this makes no sense. Since Tier 1 are all NA servers most of the player base will be logged on during NA timezones. You see it every week on reset when all 3 servers have queues for all the lands for long stretches at a time. For the first 6-8 hours on reset when no server can use the excuse for coverage everyone notices firsthand which side has the most skilled playerbase. But in the WvW weekly point score warfare, Quantity > Quality

Difference is queue sizes, BG NA is significantly smaller, that arguement doesn’t translate to reality, BG NA’s log off we lose queues, we lost our SoR BL queue this weekend after 5 hours, which i’m 100% sure SoR did not.

Name the SoR guilds and numbers vs BG NA guilds and numbers, you’ll laugh.

SoR lost queues on reset before I logged in three BLs. The only one that still had a queue was our home BL and it was short.

I am not sure where you get your information, but it is wrong.

DKNS.2135:

I don’t wanna flame-bait or anything but look at the PPT distribution. SoR had equal PPT to JQ and BG during NA time which is their strongest time on the field. Sure, they can impact the scores but that would be all. SEA time, we all know how it will go down.

Look at it historically night in and night out, then post again.

xeang.3650:

you guys from BG and SoR must have skill lagged too hard to even let out one skill during that fight @ JQBL garrison inner, lol.. must been really frustrating…try tune down the graphics =.=;;

You know the your graphic settings have nothing to do with skill lag right? It is common knowledge, due to being admitted by ANET, that it is all server side. This is why so many people complain about it.

MagiKarp.8201:

pot.6805:

Cerialkilla.3571:

LetoII.3782:

Kript.3291:

LetoII.3782:

You brought this monster on both our heads JQ. No tears, not by far.
The only guild on your server interested in even matches plays on Dragonbrand now.

JQ did seem to better overall performance when that guy was around…maybe they can beg him to come back? give his partner in crime another legendary?

Personally I’d rather see him bring DB here. There’s some talent on that server, and a few guilds we’ve yet to size up. I wanna leave this game, in some far off time, having crossed pixels with each and every guild in game. The video journal is getting extensive, but is as yet incomplete.

If they made it to t1 sor sould be the one getting bumped out so why do you want that? We are in first but i’d guess bg will be by this time tomorrow. Sor is way behind though they always go for JQ even though they aren’t catching BG. It does help BG catch up to jq after the weekend start but by then sor has themselves in a big hole.

SoR always goes for JQ? Haha, that was a good laugh brother!

Think he got BG and JQ confused due to the colour change maybe.

But yeah… they have a huge glicko hole because they never hit JQ therefore never leech easy points from JQ…

I always find these posts funny. Some people from BG complaining that SoR only hits them, while at the same time some people in JQ complain about SoR only hitting them. Week in and week out the same thing, and people still to this day don’t understand how this game works and/or the very nature of a three way fight.

Sad

Cerialkilla.3571:

Im now officially online in sor bl, and there is seriously 15 jq people here. I don’t get it this is pathetic. I mean 15 total people i think.

SoR was outmanned on JQ BL when I logged in last night and we had all of a single havoc squad in the zone. You aren’t alone in wondering where people are.

hammer.9721:

covenn.7165:

hammer.9721:

Jade might of won because they had the best coverage in the past but they also almost always won the weekend too.The same cant be said about bg.

Coverage comes into play on the weekends too ya know. Just because a few people play a little more, doesn’t make it a non-issue.

It should be pretty obvious that people have more time to play during the weekend but to help you out right now there are people at school and work that were playing at this time during the weekend.

See above for the part you missed before posting your response.

hammer.9721:

Jade might of won because they had the best coverage in the past but they also almost always won the weekend too.The same cant be said about bg.

Coverage comes into play on the weekends too ya know. Just because a few people play a little more, doesn’t make it a non-issue.

Kript.3291:

covenn.7165:

Grats on having more people than the other 2 servers in that time slot.

the same thing can be said about JQ as well….well up until last week.

which is something JQ had always denied.

Nah, that’s not reality. Plenty of people in JQ admitted they had extreme coverage advantages. I wouldn’t make a habit of applying the comments of a few people to an entire server.

Grats on having more people than the other 2 servers in that time slot.

Sharpoon.8197:

You solve skill lag by fixing/upgrading the server, not reducing player cap. WvW is supposed to be large scale pvp.

Optimizing poorly written and designed code does wonders too.

sostronk.8167:

The server cannot figure out what skills are being cast and randomly picks one.

No. This is completely wrong.

Sounds more like you are bored with the game Rebound. Switching the match up around isn’t going to really change much. Changing tiers helps some, but in the end, it is just the same thing over and over.

Let me see get rid of useful stuff with the excuse to free up queue space, yet leave jump puzzles that serve no purpose except taking up queue space with people that don’t want to help their server win.

Something isnt adding up. There is a logic fail here.

Aurust.8961:

Final Exams in Universities…….

So everyone has a lower population this week, gotcha.

Darknicrofia.2604:

ghtchill.7613:

Killtrox.2019:

Darknicrofia.2604:

how many of those bad players were ex-KO? >_<

Did we get ex-KO? I know we got ex-RE but didn’t know about KO. lolol

Indeed [KO] WvW members are transferring to you our friends of BG. I am not. To a guild that announces in the guild message window that their WvW are transferring when I take a week off due to work…good luck to you.

it was in our forums for a week with details… but lets leave this out of public forums

Plenty of room on this little old green wagon. Climb on board and join the crowd.

pot.6805:

covenn.7165:

Oh yeah, speaking of being out numbered….

I thought SoR had a super mega NA zerg, yet we had out manned buff in a BL last night smack in the middle of prime time. Something does not add up here.

Sounds like burnout. Everyone needs a rest!

Nice try, but no. We don’t put in the hours that other servers do so we never get in that situation.

Cautsumeye.6194:

covenn.7165:

Oh yeah, speaking of being out numbered….

I thought SoR had a super mega NA zerg, yet we had out manned buff in a BL last night smack in the middle of prime time. Something does not add up here.

My the bravado has mist formed from the SoR posts.

A bit of adversity and SoR shows its true identity?

We were ticking at 300 and out scoring the other two servers despite being out manned in a zone. So yeah, looks like we do show our true identity. Thanks for the compliment.

Oh yeah, speaking of being out numbered….

I thought SoR had a super mega NA zerg, yet we had out manned buff in a BL last night smack in the middle of prime time. Something does not add up here.

pot.6805:

VOLKON.1290:

I need data! Score update please?

Here you go, since you asked.
Fun fights with JQ at BG BL Bay! Was sad to see the huge HIRE zerg log off after 1 wipe though.

Are you so sure they logged off? Those guys have to constantly jump zones and don’t have the luxury of staying in one place. Unfortunately that is the truth of the situation when you are outnumbered.

cyyrix.6105:

I don’t think anyone from BG would work out, considering all of your strict rules about no overtime. Still, you might be able to convince me and a few friends if we could get a guarantee on a weekly 15 minute rally speech from Indo before each reset.

…you’d have to share your super secret AC placements too.

edit: don’t forget the piles of gold, either.

Indo gives a weekly motivational speech before reset. Seriously.

In regards to the no overtime policy, that is only in regards to mandatory and/or scheduled overtime. You are free to put in as much time as you desire as long as it isn’t so much that you get burnt out.

Lastly, the super secret arrow cart placement strats are only provided once you have completely transferred and established yourself as a member of the community. Our training classes include cake.

Fuzzion.2504:

Can SoR and BG please tell me why you guys go for me first??? It is because everyone knows who I am or my emp tag. Happens 70% of the time or is it cause im an ele?

Fuzzywuzzy….. personally, if I see an ele with a staff or an ele I know to be in zerker gear, they die first because they are easy kills. That and because my main is an ele too and I know what we can do if left alone.

Jedbacca.6297:

SF and TW are actually transferring to Kaineng next week so we can do nightly Jumping Puzzles together.

I can’t wait.

Fuzzion.2504:

Waha is officially back

Waha should come to SoR and bring a few friends to keep things interesting.

We have nothing but the highest respect for him here.

Scrambles.2604:

I know this may not be a popular opinion, but i miss Swirling Winds

Someone actually requested that Ele’s equip focues to protect our siege from trebs, until that person was quickly reminded it doesn’t work anymore. There was an audible, collective “sigh” in Teamspeak.

As an ele I like that it got nerfed It means I was finally able to salvage that useless focus of mine and no longer have to waste time baby sitting siege. I am far better suited to killing anyway.

In regards to the siege de-spawn, it is pretty freaking stupid. Make rams despawn after 10 minutes, and leave the rest of the siege alone. I like the 1 hour / 2 hour idea posted .

I think the arrow cart damage is fine providing they require line of site and can no longer shoot through objects (doors, roofs, walls, etc). This would solve much of the issue with them vs other siege too, because in order to clear a door, they would have to be in line of site of it …which means they would be able to get cleared by attackers in most cases.

DKNS.2135:

You were just placed in the wrong tier considering your WvW pop as indicated by your sudden jump to T3 so its nothing to be all proud about.

17-14-14-9-7-5(x11)-4-4-2(x5)-3(x4)-2-2-3-3

There complete history lesson.

Early in the game, it was far easier to jump ranks. SoR has been slow and steady.

Grove.2835:

xiao.9258:

SoR wins the hardest fights during NA prime to stay in T1 you gotta respect that, so we have plenty respects for TW.

Eh I’d say its more like SoR and their massive zerg balls are able to wipe half the BG on map while the other half are busy with JQ. Relying on knowing JQ would rather have BG points, and kicking BG while they are down is in no way winning the hardest fights.
GG for basically competing against only 1 enemy in a 3 way fight.

Complaints about double teaming were so last year. Seriously, don’t we all know that this is a three sides fight at this stage in the game?

Each and every night <insert server name> both fight with and take objectives from two different enemies. These same two enemies keep trying to take <insert server name>’s stuff too.

One week it is BG complaining about SoR double teaming them and the next it is JQ complaining instead. It is getting extremely tiresome. We all get double teamed all the time and there are no tin-foil-hat alliance conspiracies.

Tie the AC buff to the out manned buff imo ….

Chopps.5047:

covenn.7165:

SFShinigami.2015:

Don’t worry. SoR coverage will skyrocket in the next few weeks as schools begin letting out for summer.

Sweet, we can get our kids to play then.

You haven’t experienced gaming until someone’s 8 year old daughter caves your face in 1v1.

You sound like an experienced gamer.

Only vicariously by watching my own child do that to people in the past.