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[Suggestion] New Zeal GM trait "Fanaticism"

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OK so @Saiyan you are right, it is pretty much OP. Maybe I didn’t put too much tough into it.

New version (more balanced)

Zeal GM – Fanaticism

Passive Effect: You and your allies (max 5) Radius ~ 600? Gain 8% increased attack speed.

Active: Upon Activating Virtue of Justice you and your allies gain 1% attack speed per attack for 5s. Caps to 15% attacks speed. 30s cool down.
*Takes into account retaliation.

[Suggestion] New Zeal GM trait "Fanaticism"

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Ok @Saiyan, let’s break this down into pieces.

Pve wise.
This would be superb, very good trait and benefit for the whole party. You say it’s OP, ok let’s shave 2 seconds, make it every 5s, heck even 4. Solid DPS increase, and real reason to go 6 in Zeal, which we can’t say it’s true for now. Also it will make Mace and Hammer a beast. It’s a GM trait after all.

Pvp/WvW wise.
In pvp would again be pretty strong on point, if you take into account retaliation ticks this would ramp up very fast, for that reason u can make it 3s and make it that if u break your attack chains for in that 3s period you loose all your attack speed bonus that you had before.

In WvW in big zergs using a GS WW, a scepter smite or retal will get you to 25% instantly but it will also mean a death sentence if you hit retal yourself so it’s a double edge sword. Plus you will have to stack up more defensive gear as you will only be able to go full valor for AH for sustain.
For roaming going 6.×.6.×.x meditations it will mean to drop the DMG bonus that u get from radiance and the exrat crit chance, so your crit will be very low. And knowing that a guardian don’t have any solft CC it will still be hard to stay on target to get to the full potential.

Guardian is not a paladin true, and neither the D3 crusader is not a guardian but uses consecrations. It’s just naming across different games. Also I don’t know which Mesmer trait are you talking about that sounds like Fanaticism.

So again you have tradeoffs. Go for extra attack speed or choose DMG coefficients.
And I don’t think It would be hard to implement, warrior already has in arms a flat 10% attack speed with Dual Wield Agility. I mentioned that this buff will only increase the attack speed and not actions, so it won’t benefit on stomps or rezzes.

I really think this would be a nice way to bring zeal alive. If you guys/girls think it’s too powerful let’s make this balanced and try to make it work somehow.

[Suggestion] New Zeal GM trait "Fanaticism"

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Inspired by Diablo 2’s Paladin, Offensive auras (yeah the nostalgia)
http://diablo.gamepedia.com/Fanaticism_

Zeal GM – Fanaticism

Each attack increases your and your party’s attack speed by 1% for 7s up until a maximum of 25% increased attack speed.

*Also takes into account Retaliation. Does not take into account condition damage.

Any thoughts?

Anyone know a decent sword/shield build?

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This one is very good actually http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Zealot_
Makes me cry a little bit.

A bit bored ofcurrent meta options: help!!!!!

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Op you are bored because guardian is freaking broken and dull, when anet made guardian class decided to ruin the flavor and mix all the vegetables in a big pile of salad kitten, and then decided to add a hot sauce every 5th spoon (every 3rd if traited!)

Dungeon Starter Build

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Guardian leveling guide by Obal, (if you still need it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzRhmV16qY
Guardian DPS rotations by Obal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgK9IcYXr_U

Also, indeed 4/5/0/0/5 is the general meta build. If, however you are having difficulty playing this build, which anyone recommending it for a beginner forgot that they had time to learn the encounters and rolled suboptimal builds a long time with more self sustain, I can recommend one of the following:

  1. 0/6/0/6/2
  2. 2/5/0/2/5
  3. 2/6/0/1/5 or 4/5/0/1/4
  4. actual meta ofc 4/5/0/0/5

*I still recommend getting Berserker, armor, weapons and trinkets.

Build 1 will let u get and extra hit or two if you are still learning some encounters, but I strongly suggest getting used to build 2 as it has better condition clear and dmg. There is also the 3/5/0/4/2 hammer build which is an easy build to play, but I don’t recommend it because camping hammer is not good if you try to learn the weapon sets (and it’s more for some fractal situations). After u got used to build 2 and u see that u stop getting downed so often go for build 3, and finally embrace the meta.

Good luck and have fun!

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OP, if u really want to go support, u can even go clerics, just go 6 in virtues and 6 in honor, u should be good. Heck I was rolling TapDatMouse WvW build in dungeons and was wondering why my build does 0 dmg, it’s ok I guess every build works, meta means efficiency, If you don’t want to roll with it now, u will curse yourself later for spending unnecessary gold on unnecessary gear. My 2 cents.

That’s a bit late for that dude. 2 days ago the OP said that he understand what the meta bring and will use it. No need for sarcasm lol.

No sarcasm, maybe just late with the post. Glad OP got his answer on this thread.

General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Makes Necro, > Lalalalala Loved It, joins TA LFG, don’t kick bro I got ELE!

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Why condi guard supercedes med zerks.

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I’m a PvE scrub and I aprove Hybrid Medi Condi Carrion Mesmer Scrub Killah’ build.

Guardian build doubt

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OP, if u really want to go support, u can even go clerics, just go 6 in virtues and 6 in honor, u should be good. Heck I was rolling TapDatMouse WvW build in dungeons and was wondering why my build does 0 dmg, it’s ok I guess every build works, meta means efficiency, If you don’t want to roll with it now, u will curse yourself later for spending unnecessary gold on unnecessary gear. My 2 cents.

medi guards 2 little effort 2 much dmg

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Oh btw, we get steam rolled by every almost all tanky/condi self sustain builds. Ohh pardon me we do counter some builds as natural. L2P Ty.

You don’t see me on the forums QQ’ing about cele, engie/ele’s.
Ty.

medi guards 2 little effort 2 much dmg

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OP I fell bad that u got facerolled by guards. I don’t want to say it’s l2p issue but I got a story for you.
I lost an unranked match one time, (was playing hybrid medi burn faceroll mesmers) and this Mesmer (legendary champion etc) started throwing v bad words on PM to myself, and he/she even asked me for 1v1 bro! So, I took the challenge, on his private server, won first match (still condi hybrid faceroll Mesmer build), more curse words against me, I changed to zerker amu standard DPS guard build, facerolled him 3,5 times out of 6. So I really don’t feel bad. I actually feel good only rank 40, kitten mesmers…

How many Guardians do you have?

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One!
/6charrs

P.S. also u should feel bad rolling asura in PvP
#noasuraswag

[Nomination] Best of 2014 popularity contest

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1. Best Solo Player of the Year
Sesshi, dat EU bro is crazy. Also, I salute Miku.

2. Best Speed Run Group of the Year
SC

3. Best Speedrun World Record
Arah P3 by rT (8:17 restricted) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV0KLL0LpPo, don’t know if this counts but it’s one of my favorite from this year, even if SC took the lead.

4. Dungeon Initiative of the Year
I enjoyed the DnT dungeon tournaments

5. Best Visual Guide
I would say between [KING]‘s, Obal’s and Keyz. From my perspective I would go with Obal as I saw more detail and value in his fractal guides.

6. Best Written Guide
gw2dungeons.net

7. Community Member of the Year

A lot of people shared they’re knowledge on these forums and/or reddit/yt, and it’s much appreciated. To me Nike seemed the most vocal and iconic. So yeah, I vote with Nike.

8. Most Fashionable Dungeon Runner of the Year
-

9. Best Comedy of the Year
I will say entertainment, and between Dub’s and Brazil’s channel I will choose this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8j_0XnkP9w #datendgame

10. Epic Fail of the Year
rT vs FGS arah p3 was quite unexpected.

[Suggestion] Male Guardian anim 'Empower'

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I have to agree with OP on this one, I also think the shield needs a rework.
1st Guardian World Problems.

Alternative to the lack of soft CC

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@Stand The Wall, true but like Ragnar said, u are loosing up a slot that u could use a force/blood or energy sigil, maybe even a fire + air. We already have to sacrifice dmg runes in favor of Travelers/Speed WvW wise. Also relaying on hammer for chill and loosing monks focus is not worth it at all imo.

Having a heal skill like Litany that encourages you to go offensive but not getting the proper tools of a melee fighter, to be able to land your attacks to benefit from the skill itself is pretty nuts.

Heal Skills

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Maybe another round of grandmaster traits that could be useful into creating new metas would be useful.

Burning enemies heal you? Yes please.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Litany_of_Wrath
Takes in account also condition dmg and retaliation.

Too bad I cannot make it work for me, the block from shelter is too darn good and especially when u block a nice burst and your might go up to 20+ from valor.

I wish the devs will revisit Litany as they said in the past that the cast time could be reduced even further but they haven’t adjusted it, and it’s really a shame because no one is using it. Also, even with a reduced cast time, it still won’t compete with Shelter imo. Having 0 stab in a medi build, using Litany = dead

General Dungeon Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Joined with my guardian 2 warrior’s LFG the other day (CoE All paths Berzerker), then 2 thieves joined after. I can’t even tell when was the last time when a CoE pug went that smooth. Neither warrior’s were PS but we had permanent 25 might and fury and both thieves were blasting on my PF/HG for might. Is so nice to see 6k sword autos in pugs (4.6.2.0.2 no UC), all paths were done in 40 min give or take which is not a record but is pretty kitten good considering our comp/pug.

Alternative to the lack of soft CC

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Hello fellow guardians

About 2 days ago I created this thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance/Pvp-WvW-Guardian-anti-kiting-mechanic/first#post4605865 on the profession balance subforum, and I didn’t get any reply. I know I may have been too straight and my poorly expressed idea rendered my thread moot. (yeah my English, srry)

I was talking about a different way in how to make the guardian more dangerous in melee and more “kiting un-friendly”. It’s pretty clear anet doesn’t want the guardian to posses cripple, and the chill condition is barely a myth in our builds.

My concept was to have a way to punish people that can reliable self apply swiftness, with the use of the almost un-used Litany of Wrath, and to introduce a new mechanic (I can’t call it a condition) that degenerates a % of enemy’s endurance, on burning the target.

Obtena said something in the “Expanding Guardian” thread which I really liked a lot as a concept:
“I would expand it with an additional concept that would be much more self focused. Heck, I could even imagine that it would diminish or deplete other people’s powers to enhance their own.”

I think this would be the perfect description for a all glass full offensive guardian.

So yeah, deplete endurance is my idea, would make it unique and more aggressive than the condition “weakness”.

I would like to hear people’s toughts on it, and how would you implement it as opposed to what I suggested in my original thread, link in the first pharagraph ^^.

Thank you

[Pvp,WvW] [Guardian] anti-kiting mechanic

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Hello all

We all know that guardians, no mater the build are sitting ducks for classes that can kite, and you kiters know what I mean. Also the lack of tools like soft CC to keep our targets in melee range renders the use of skills like http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Litany_of_Wrath useless, in a meditation build, which is ironic.
I’ve tough of 2 ways for countering kiters, and make opponets get away a litle bit harder from a guardian’s melee range.

+Chill
+E.E.D. (Enemy Endurance Decay)

1. Chill

We alrady have a chill (Glacial Heart), but only works with hammer, and has an ICD of 15s and u have too trade monks focus for it, loosing fury as a meditation guard.

Implementation

-Casting Litany of Wrath also chills players wich have the swiftness boon for 6s in an AoE of 900 radius.
So it will only affect people with swiftness on.
-Zeal GM trait: Each atack on chilled target, also provide burning.

2. E.E.D. Enemy Endurance Decay

What it says, basically punish enemies that stay too much in melee range with guardian. Similar to warriors getting more dangerous when they adrenal bar fills.

Implementation

- Radiance Adept trait – Burning Decays 8%/second of enemys Endurance bar.

*I don’t know how will this affect PvE as i don;t know if mobs acctually have endurance bars.

This will provide some synergi between chill and burn, proc E.D.D and help guardians stay on targets.
I know this is far from balanced, but it;s a concept and i really think it can be worked in esealy either on a wepon or some traits.

What are your toughts? Is it a good idea? Will it make guardian Overpowered? I havent tought of sigils and runes yet so i don’t know.

TAGEs short sPVP guide

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Nice of you to share your builds Tage. ++

The God of Guild Wars getting Balanced ?

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I’m sure Meditation Guardian also pawns OH pistol thieves, S/S LB condi warris, S/x Hamm warris, fearmancers, axe/dagger SB lynx/spider condi rangers, some engies, D/D eles, condi mesmers, etc. It probably doesn’t but Anet needs to nerf them if I got rekt, ain’t that right OP?

or he staying on top of everything..

Get out please.
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Guardian Shield Skill Rework

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While I agree that it needs a rework. Don’t compare skills from 2 different Professions. Balance don’t work like that, those professions have a reason to have their shield working that way.

4# block for 3 sec and protect 3 allies (20 sec) + 5# daze 3 sec plus heal 3 allies (25sec) is what make balance for guardian shield

Sounds good, probably 3s block is too much as we also have the 2s block from Shelter. The thing is focus is so much superior that is hard to make shield viable. Right now focus has better support than shield does, u can rezz while SoW is up, it has a mini regen + condi cleanse + blind + dmg on RoJ. What ever shield becomes it must not overwrite the focus’es role.
Its strange that shield doesn’t offers us any sort of sustain and it encourages cowardly gameplay. But yes, I do agree we need a real block, also daze doesn’t sound bad.

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Have the same problem since 2 days ago. Using IE 11, I even reset my browser default settings. I don’t understand since the page loads fine on my phone. I’ve tried Firefox and it worked first time, after closing browser it didn’t worked in Firefox as well. A note, I have BitDefender IS 2015. Also I haven’t changed any settings in browser or bitdefender it happened all of a sudden. And I only have this issue with the gw2 website. Wiki works, all my other site’s work. Just strange…

Guardian shield 4/5.

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So I was browsing some other mmo’s wiki’s to see what skills the “guardian” archetype classes offer and I was surprised how lackluster our guardian is compared to the competition, especially when it comes to the shield skills.
Our class sigil is the shield, we should be masters at the tool itself also, not only the idea behind the class mechanic, (which i find it very uninspired, virtues passives come to mind). Like a lot of people said, i’m ok with not disengaging but give us the tools to keep our opponent’s and ourselves in melee.
Crush legs, steal life, cripple, torment, we need some of these anet.
Back to the shield.
Give 4 cripple and torment, “limb crush” or something with the same dmg that we have now.
Give 5 a 2s block with a secondary active. Block will synergize with valor block traits and the active could be traited in zeal, radiance valor, honor and virtues for different effects and specialization.
For ex: In radiance, something like shield glare, upon realease AoE blind 3s
In Zeal: Steal % life of damage blocked
and etc…

Now please anet, let me justify myself spending 2,6k gold on a shield skin
Thank You!

Guardian shield 4/5.

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Scrap both skill 4 and 5 for now. Put a pin to Shield of Absorption for later.

Shield 4
Shield Intervention

Shadow step to your target doing a shield spin and chilling your enemies. You gain quickness.
skill cool down 25s
AoE 240
Chill duration 5s
Quickness duration 3s, -Your healing is 50% less effective for 3s

(This provides a form of soft cc that guardians are in desperate need)

Shield 5
Vanguard

You gain stability, absorbing incoming damage and life stealing a percentage of the attackers incoming damage and sharing it with nearby allies. You gain retaliation.
skill cool down 30s
skill duration 3s
stability 3s
damage absorbed: 66%
life steal: 50% of absorbed damage
shared life steal: 20% of absorbed damage
retaliation 3s
life steal scales with healing power or power??

(While not a real block because it will render focus useless, it becomes a group tool and personal for soaking up some damage, stealing some life and sharing it with party. Numbers need tweaking for both pve and wvw, pvp)

Now for that pin, Shield of Absorption to me is a very niche skill, a very rarely used, but still useful in those situation.
My thoughts on it are to make it an optional Master tier skill in Honor that replaces Vanguard.

Sorry for my English.

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Virtue of Courage
passive effect
“Grants aegis every forty seconds.” - Shields the guardian giving protection.

Ill take -33% dmg all day instead of a random block which can be broken by even the smallest hit. Also this will make up for the low health that we have, thus giving a little more sustain.

active effect
Grant aegis to yourself and nearby allies. Aegis 20 seconds, radius 1200.

Upon activation the Guardian gives up his sustain for aiding his allies.
Aegis 10 seconds, blocks all attacks for 1 second.

I think 20 seconds is too much, therefore the guardian will learn when to time his block for his mates. Also I think 1 second of blocking all attacks makes more sense.

Guardians - Main Weapons Staff - Dungeons

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Staff guards are in for a treat tomorrow. No spoilers plz

People that staff bosses are bad players.

It will prove you wrong

If this is going to be something like the 5 ranger vs…. Well i’m curious now xD

Guard stuck at Bzerk Abomination (succeeded)

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Woo Woo manged to beat him just now, had to stop yesterday because of the lag.
@Syn Sity you were right i was dodging every atack, took it a lil bit slower this time. Tnx guys for the input.
Now it’s time for Lupi. I’m gonna cry.

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I can’t seem too get pass him, i get around 35 – 40% out of his HP and then my endurance is out.
I run 10.30.0.10.20 full zerk-scholar with: Shelter / SyG / Bane Signt / Retreat / Ren. Focus undead sigils on both GS and sword and energy sigil on focus. Some cheap 70 power food and undead potion.
I brought him by the corner near the chopper crash and i have plenty of syringes.
Any tips would be highly appreciated.

IGN: Amauger
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After reading all the posts it’s clear what the players want from the guardian profession and what the guardian needs to be on par to his “role”.

But what would one expect when going 30 deep into zeal?
Theoretically (i don’t have the numbers) but, like Aza and many others said we need a power to vitality trait for starters.
A zealot should be feared in melee range, and should be very powerful (not OP) in his symbols. Symbol of Wrath need a little bit of “buff” i mean it’s not funny when a thief dances in it after he stabbed you. A zealot should be a counter to the condition meta, punish condition appliers with burn (maybe a GM trait). And symbol of Wrath really needs cripple (it’s too easy for people to get out of it). Ofc a Zealot would need sustain be able to apply pressure and Hold the Ground.

And then there’s spirit weapons which i just can’t wrap my head around them, really needs an overhaul (except spirit shield which rocks).

Sword is good, like others said need some soft CC (still would take 10% dmg).

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Yeah that happend to me also one time, but the suicide trick fixed the issue. Can only dream of a gw3 that has improved server tech, that reduces the class balance threads on forumes down to 90% and uses something like an Unreal Engine 4 or similar.

Speculation on what the Queen has to say

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Queen Jennah announces that she is the new Belcher’s Bluff champion. Anyone who can beat her can take her on at naked Sanctum Sprint.

this