Guild Wars 2

Well with the DPS build I posted here – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Amplified-Burst-Build/first#post3997325 I rarely have problems with anyone due to ranged kiting (I use scepter for one)…

The only real hard-counter I’ve found to my build so far is those PVT Minion Necros when they camp laser and I have to fight them in a tiny area and cant avoid minion deaths.

Conditions haven’t really been an issue as it blows up most people pretty quickly and has access to so much blocks/blinds on top of instantly and constantly applying heavy pressure on opponents forcing defensive play. A well played condi necro is still a very very tough 1v1 but if you use CD’s right you have a good chance to win it.

Skile.1384:

I would consider to drop purity for defender’s flame, and the recharge of meditation for fury, if you are spiking with meditation + combo

I don’t think you are commenting on the right build as I take defenders flame already, and do not take meditation recharge nor focused mind as I only have the 2 points in Valor for defenders flame.

Well I’m normally a WvW player and not a Guardian main.. The new Amplified Wrath got me interested to messing around with my Guardian in spvp hotjoins and solo queues..

I tried a wide variety of builds using this trait, like seriously pretty much everything.. At first I was rolling with Celestial Amulet and Balthazaar Runes with Doom and Smoldering Sigils. I have several trait allocations I like a lot with that setup I won’t list them here though..

What I’m going to post here though is the setup I’ve found the most fun for me after all my experimenting with this trait. This is a high risk high reward bursty and sustained dps build. Forgive me if this build or one real close is already here I looked through a lot of topics and haven’t seen the same, also haven’t ran across anyone with it.

I would like to see people running it because its fun to play in a burst meta <3

Amplified Burst Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNArdRlsApcoNDxaI8DRR8QZ7I8BVHAJwjizVzAA-TJRHwAFODAc2fAwjAgZZAA

Edit- I’ve swapped out the Doom sigils in favor of Rage and quite like the results.

While running the condi and celestial styles was fun, I have had a real blast with this build.. The first shield of wrath I seen hit 7500 had me lol’ing…

I wish I could make a vid of it, but alas my pc is kitten.

godz raiden.2631:

No reason the loser should get to feel like he got the last laugh.

This..

Well I was able to get to 71% baalth in a solid couple days in hotjoin ( I am a wvw player not spvp and i do no want tournys) but now it wont progress.. so i guess i forget about it and all the other tracks ( along with spvp) once again and go back to getting nothing in wvw as usual.

TyPin.9860:

I like how Dhuumfire works now. I can now “condition spike” with burning on demand, while fearing my opponent down, so he can’t cleanse it properly. It is awesome.

I agree with this, especially with my sigil combo and the new dark path trait when I swap weapon and enter DS its mega condi spike time..

Thats funny I made the same exact build last night it’s pretty fun except with a more brutal sigil combo that I hope doesn’t become popular lol..

Now I’m testing it out a bit differently with a mix of Valk/Cav and a 6 2 0 0 6 setup. (zerker stance, signet of stamina, mobile strikes, poultry soup and holebrak runes to mitigate condi due to the loss of cleansing ire)

Fuzzion.2504:

Downed state needs a little nerf. A decrease by 30% would be reasonable.

In my opinion it would be much better with a revive speed nerf.. The speed at which especially a warrior can res ppl is ridiculous.. If I start a spike on someone as soon as they go down, I should be able to beat a reviver who started after me, but no most times they can revive b4 I can finish spike animation.

Oh btw I actually like the downed state as someone mention it adds another layer to the fight, I just think its a bit unbalanced atm.

Well it is a real world tactic.. And so happens to be most beneficial in game so ppl do it..

doddbox.8153:

DreamAvenue.7692:

8/10 Your weapons go surprisingly well with your hood.

Not your usual necromancer but she is one – I promise.

Very pretty, I’m guessing she is a white widow :o the staff works well with the look 9/10

I’m not brave enough to buy a Legendary for my Necromancer given the lack of general attention (EHERM DEVS PLEASE), but here is my “BDSM tree” as my guildies call it.

9/10 not a fan of all the masks but otherwise very cool.

Full zerker if u wanna power necro in wvw.. It’s the most fun way imo.

Dank Stank Of Death

flow.6043:

Icewielder.4195:

If you play with skill lag like has been incredibly bad since seasons started, you wouldn’t be surprised by the cooldown showing up even when the skill isn’t done channeling.

dank.3680:

And you can see in the screenshot the channel bar at 60% with no other channel skills and its clearly still mid-animation.

The Ghastly Claws channel is represented by the taller and darker bar in the background. The thinner one which is at roughly ~60% progress is the auto attack, yet another indicator for a completed Ghastly Claws channel.
The picture shows that your landed 10k on an npc, that’s all. Stating that the picture doesn’t represent what actually happend is as much anecdotal evidence as your claim of hitting 10-20k on a regular basis.
So again: 10k+ on real players? Pics (or vids) or it didn’t happen :P

Your right and I thought the channel bar looked funny (compared to mine) but I couldn’t replicate the look so I chopped it up to graphics difference since I run on a very low settings. But after reading your reply I did manage to replicate the look mostly.

I do have to admit though that I’ve seen 10k+ with ghastly claws on softer targets such as thieves/mesmers/other zerker necros.. I wouldn’t say it’s rare, but certainly not the norm.. Just as I sometimes see 9k+ life blasts and some people would like to claim thats the norm in wvw but it just isn’t.

I did forget to mention, I find the claim of 20k in WvW laughable.. Maybe on an upscale, with 25 vuln 25 might below 50% hp etc…

Icewielder.4195:

flow.6043:

Icewielder.4195:

10k is trivial to get, this is a 60% channeled ghastly claws…

Clearly it isn’t at 60%, the cooldown on Ghastly Claws started which means that the channel was completed.
Also, you generally hit a lot harder on guard/sentry npcs because of wvw infusions and +10% damage from the Guard Killer line.
And from personal experience, guards seem to have a rather low armor value, but I’m just guessing now.

Anyway, the screenshot you posted rather confirms that you can’t hit as hard as 20k on real players. Tbh I’d be quite suprised to see proof of a 10k+ hit on any non glass canon player.

Admittedly if you’re running in a zerg like most WvW players do, then yes, you will never see 20k. Your fighting trash PVT zerglings with protection 99% of the time. Go fight enemy glass cannon roamers and you will change your opinion.

This ^^

And you can see in the screenshot the channel bar at 60% with no other channel skills and its clearly still mid-animation..

Also if you are having a hard time to land the axe skills, you must learn to strafe your opponent(its what they are doing to you) and face him when you need to use skills that require facing them (or let off movement controls and the game will do it). Mesmers for example also have plenty of skills like this like confusing images..

I have to say though, stacking 25 vuln on a player (decent roamer) is not usually all that easy without outside help(rifle warrior ). They tend to not stand in wells and like to do things like remove conditions..

[TRBL] Now recruiting all terrible players who wanna bandwagon from NSP to HOD!(must be experienced rally bot)

Reverence.6915:

Right now, EoTM’s rewards are high. Too high. They’re higher than regular WvW maps and can be earned at a far higher rate. This only draws people away from regular WvW maps, causing matches to become incredibly imbalanced. You can see this in the vast PPT variance from last week.

EoTM’s rewards for capping need to be removed completely. There’s no reason why a second chest should appear on top of what you already got from the champion. I’d actually prefer if rewards were only from killing other players in EoTM.

The other option is to increase rewards in regular WvW maps, which I highly disagree with as well, since I feel it’s currently at a pretty good place.

Ahh yea, WvW’ers should never get half decen rewards. We should all just be PVE’ers right..

It’s so not right that now WvW’ers can get slightly more then nothing.. Kill it

I hate people like you OP.

UrMom.4205:

unknownchaos.1425:

Athena.4682:

Just a shoutout to my beloved XOXO friends in NSP.. the “heartseeker” thief you were referring to was my guildie and yes, RI. Just to let you know that he’s less than 1.5k achievement point, basically a newcomer to GUILDWARS. ^^

Cheers!
PS. I just heard it from someone in my guild that you guys love to make fun of people so I’m responding to let you know WHO you killed.

SALUTE

Its ok.. The big bad meanies of XOXO are all gone. The guild is disbanded , the players are scattered everywhere.. Most of the good players xfer off nsp. For more active PvP.

Thank you
Obs

Rip XOXO

this for real or troll? where’d they go?

Most are back in our old guild Envy. Several have moved servers maybe more to follow.

SoPP.7034:

Alarox.4590:

The downed state definitely helps. Maybe our experienced have just been different, but I’ve put many hours into WvW already and I’ve lost plenty of kills and have been saved multiple times thanks to the downed state.

Mainly, it alleviates the issues with bursting people down. Even if 20 people focus you, your allies then have time to react to save you, which is much better than simply insta-death. It also means an attacking force can’t simply spam and run through your group as easily as people don’t instantly drop dead.

I had an exciting moment where we pushed from a keep and I was downed. I was able to push a couple back before they finished me and when they came in the 2nd time my allies had caught up and pushed them back.

I think the downed state is a great idea. The questions I think are important is how much should it be buffed/nerfed?

I think the downstate should be buffed. For one I think that everyone should have the warrior #3 AND it should be 100% chance of rally on kill within the time-frame without any trait just like it would be from downed.

Neko Dudley.2495:

Anet dropped the bomb.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Upcoming-Forum-Changes-to-WvW-Match-ups-Sub-forum

Good going Rob and Obsession you broke Anet.

Caffynated.5713:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

not everyone hates skyhammer, btw

I don’t know what depraved minds you’ve been talking to, but everyone I know hates skyhammer and wants to see it removed from soloqueue.

So much hostility out of left field..

Aeonblade.8709:

slamb.4781:

So i was thinking would people still Zerg / Karma train if there where no / less rewards?

The thought is that an objective be worth X amount of WXP and Karma and the more people in the Area of the event such as taking a Camp and or tower receive a portion of the WXP / Karma. So the more people in the Zerg the less WXP and Karma an individual player would receive.

for example,

If a camp is worth 1000 WXP and 4 players take it they receive 250 WXP each
and if 20 players take the same camp they each only receive 50 WXP each

this could also roll over on to loot as well such as less players that kill a Lord better chance for higher tier loot.

If they take away rewards for capping things, they better make loot bags drop a green+ item every time. Right now, taking keeps/towers is the only thing propping up WvW in the sense that I would be broke if we didn’t get those rewards.

It would just force me to PvE to have money, which I wouldn’t do, I’d rather just leave the game.

PRetty much took the words from my mouth.. As someone who only WvW’s I don’t want to see rewards reduced ANYWHERE across the board..

I am primarily a Roamer who don’t give a crap about PPT or WXP. – I DO care about the gold/karma/badges useful for actually having gear to WvW with on my toons.

Jereme.1840:

geist.3980:

Brick Tamland.6507:

Not impressed with Os blob at all. Thanks for the bags though.

scream for help louder to the other guilds on your server to save you after each time you wipe. lol

Yeah takes real skill for 60+ to wipe 25, so ofc were going to call for others on map, but when the odds are more even you run. Stop talking out your kitten , hurr hurr hurr our 60 wiped your 25 hurr hurr hurr.

Calm down sir this is a friendly forum.

Brick Tamland.6507:

Not impressed with Os blob at all. Thanks for the bags though.

Os MU is not impressed. That’s pretty sad and you should feel terrible.

I guess you had to be there for it to be funny..

As much as I don’t like the zerg meta, we don’t need less rewards for ANY part of WvW.. We already get the shaft anyways..

House Calls.7641:

“Well you don’t seem to have any issue harboring them so you might as well be included.”

Harboring these alleged hackers? You’re right i should go hunt them down…….with all the proof you have provided.

pics or it didn’t happen, great argument totally original.

House Calls.7641:

“Drama this drama that.. Bla blah blah this guild and that…. I just wish CD would quit hacking in WvW..”

Any particulars ? Or you happy to colour all of CD as Hackers?

Well you don’t seem to have any issue harboring them so you might as well be included.

Kolisch.4691:

Always get tonnes of emotes from xoxo~ much love too

Turn team colors off pls that is just ugly.

Sororita.3465:

AKLbow.2463:

You need some new material. Your posts are boring now.

There use to be a time where threads use to run pages long and be entertaining, mainly due to [XOXO], sad thats gone, these forums are boring now. Guess [XOXO] has lost their edge in game and on the forums…except Obs of course, nothing but respect for him.

You’re right though, i do need more material but it takes two to tango and youre terrible on the dance floor.

Sorry I got bored of forum warring.. Much like WvW it has grown stale and lost appeal.

bokkieskitten.8023:

Sororita.3465:

unknownchaos.1425:

If you have it recorded. Send to me lol.. I’ll put some music to it. Idc.

sadly i did not, we were just running around capping camps, sentries and killing yaks, we only ran into you because you were by a sentry.

Why is XOXO killing Mother BUNS also? =( Be nice to Mother BUNS.

No…

Jaxs.5830:

Alex Behemoth.4952:

Jaxs.5830:

If you cannot tag what your group is killing while playing support then the issue is you and not the game. I play full support for my group, its never an issue.

Look lets not get into the whole you suck argument or get better argument. I don’t think you can argue that the game does not give any incentive to play support. When you tag an enemy you are going outside the support role. Therefore my point still stands.

Your point is laying flat on its back, imo. My argument is that the game doesn’t need to give incentive to play support.

Tagging takes very little effort (one hit) and with the odd exception of a very hectic fight there is always a bit of time for tagging. Tagging is also needed for stacks, more damage helps group, applying some conditions helps group, crits can give vigor or other benefits depending on spec, etc.

I just haven’t seen the tagging requirement as being a problem.

This.. And why would tagging be “going outside the support role”. You don’t think CC is support? Sometimes a well timed CC is way more help then a 2k heal..

Also anet has always said there will never be dedicated healer roles.. That’s why everyone has their own #6 heal and various other ways to heal up.. So if that’s what you’re trying to do it won’t work how you want.

Sororita.3465:

Downskee.2650:

i cant stop laughing at your blog

Lost twink war,
Lost forum war,
Insults blog.

We only started the blog because it was boring capping so many people and watching them run to zergs for safety, meh go figure. Was something to pass the time but i suppose we can get rid of it and go back to killing, though, i say that but you yourself wouldnt even fight my twink, was down there for a good 10 mins waiting for you…

though i too was stunned by the [XOXO] necro..i presume 30/25/0/0/15?

The Sylvari? If so yes that’s what I run as a power build.. But I don’t remember seeing you so maybe pwn or Xumn which Xumn doesn’t run that and the other I dunno..

Porqington.3189:

unknownchaos.1425:

Porqington.3189:

Really XOXO? You guys are too good for this kind of kitten…

If you have been wvwing as long as most here. You would know this tower is always buggy at the gate. I’ve seen it happen more times then I can count.

It was an accidental bug.

We don’t care enough about towers/keeps to even think of glitching to get in.

Been playing for over a year, never seen it before. I don’t know why you’re trying to justify these actions with silly excuses rather than own up to something that is a clear exploit in the game. The fact that you acknowledge that this is a well known bug makes you look even worse, you know that right? You could have just said, “Sorry, this was a one time thing and it won’t happen again”. Instead you practically said “We know all about this exploit and we will utilize it whenever we kitten well please”.

One of your guild leaders has already contacted me and told me the person would be kicked if caught doing it again.

Stop making yourself look bad.

lol I’ve seen it posted accidentally happening on these forums tons of time.. The gate was almost down he popped through, thought the gate went down and went for u.. By the time we said in chat ‘wtf’ etc – the gate was already down.. So no it was not a big deal and you are acting like an overdramatic child.

About a guild leader contacting you etc etc… LOL

Porqington.3189:

dank.3680:

Porqington.3189:

Really XOXO? You guys are too good for this kind of kitten…

He accidentally popped through.. The gate was 10s from dropping anyways.

And that makes it ok?

Makes what ok?

Porqington.3189:

Really XOXO? You guys are too good for this kind of kitten…

He accidentally popped through.. The gate was 10s from dropping anyways.

Everyone is awesome and should feel awesome.

If all your toons are the same rank (including any new ones) then how are you going to be rank 1 again?

Recursivision.2367:

dank.3680:

Had some fun on my Necro messing around with builds last night.. Thanks for the fights.. No thanks for the zerging me..

You must be the XOXO power necro! I think you hit my buddy for an 8k+ lifeblast. brb, wtb more +crit damage.

Just started playing power necro this week. Is too much fun. Been skirmishing against you guys quite a bit and it’s been good practice. I’ve had some fun duels with your thieves, too.

Well there is 2 of us running around in zerk lately me the Sylvari and Xume who is male Norn. Sounds more like him since he runs a ds focused build I think.

Had some fun on my Necro messing around with builds last night.. Thanks for the fights.. No thanks for the zerging me..

boring topic almost over

yay

mistsim.2748:

Sadly 100% of rangers ride the shortbus

^^

Banzie.5248:

Yessss my Temp ban is up, finally!!!!

Freaking FA #@* can’t take the PvF.

Reported.

Joe.4178:

Nimoy.3516:

Hey Joe,
From Yaks Bend I fought you on my ranger[FoW] a couple times this week. Dam!!!!! First time I didn’t know what hit me. After that I was ready for a shatter mesmer, you don’t see many good shatter mesmers anymore. I have run into you a few times this week I know when I see a colorful charr mesmer its going to be a rough fight. You are very skilled you would beat me 8 out of 10 times in a solo fight.

Thanks! But I just do the same as every shatter mes iLeap blurred frenzy shatter but I’m just maxed out in stats, I don’t think I’m any good or special since I’m running full glass. In a 1v1 you’d wreck me because for me to do damage I’d have to get close range, and if you kite me out well enough then I’d flop over 100% of time.

Joe’s secret is his outrageous appearance.

Chris.4527:

More like best music selection ever.

How bout no.

Flerch.4817:

Chris.4527:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F-MVDrpa7m4

[One]s reset night, good stuff ^^

Worst music selection ever.

Shouldn’t you be busy pressing 2?

KOK.2650:

Raolin Soulherder.3195:

thief can kind of do something like that. it they shoot infiltrator’s arrow & hop in the golem as soon as the arrow leaves the bow, the golem will shadowstep. however it is a bit awkward and I have a very hard time seeing how you could get any separation from chasers even if traited for initiative gain unless they are very slow. though I guess you could get 25% movement from full Travelers runes. or perma swiftness from full centaur runes+sig of malice spam+"signet use" trait. he’d have to rapidly keep getting into and out of the golem to shoot the arrow and/or apply swiftness.

Have you try it before or you are just theorycrafting. On my thief right now playing with a spawn golem , I have not succeeded in doing it. So do you need to do it in combat mode?

You get in while arrow in mid flight. Yes I’ve seen it actually done.

Oh, Swiftness don’t apply in golem mode. Immediately after u jump inside, the buff disappear. (actually all buffs disappear)

If you enter the golem with 3 buff you will lose 2 of them. Try with warrior SOR.

+25% movement speed don’t work in golem as well.

Trait/signet doesn’t. Traveler’s runes do if it hasn’t been fixed.

Adlanaa.6172:

I need to tune in here more often, I forget how fun it is to see all the QQ about XOXO.

Keep crying boys, your whining sustains us.

hi lana

SBI-EB why so bad?

Ambrecombe.4398:

dank.3680:

Your logic is flawed thinking of 1v1 only. If I’m in a group of 5 putting oodles of confusion on everyone who cares if I’m not doing much other damage. It was just an example anyways to show how many interrupts you can have at one time to point out the need for an icd.

This is where you are wrong, I always think in every possible perspective I can see.
You still use a bad exemple and try to find a sorry excuse to say I’m wrong because I should not take into consideration the things you say.

Speaking of your exemple, we are talking about something close to 65 dmg per confusion stacks, in Pvp without any condition gear, while with a condition gear you should be around 172 dmg a stack. That’s almost 1/3 of its base power, so your 25stacks of confusion are more like 9 stacks of confusion from a real condition build perspective and anyone playing a condition build relying on confusion is going to be mildly annoyed because anyone using that build is going to leave no room for real condition damage builds.

Also any team fight has condi removal flying around like it is Christmas, so that kind of build is going to be shutdown whenever you will have a guardian applying stability to your team or whenever you someone is going to put a field that clears condition.

dank.3680:

Anyways, lets look at a REAL condition warrior build that I ran and was completely ridiculous.

With Mace/Sword Sword/Shield and bleeds that ticked 135 BEFORE might. I had btw 28k hp, 3000 armor and still ran with Cleansing Ire, this is with no Ascended btw only exotics. I still had 6 interrupts (including fall trait – which btw you would be surprised how much use you can get out of in normal terrain), could have been 7 but I ran one defensive utility. Torment that ticked very high along with bleeds ticking 135+ and the ability to stack 21 confusion with 2 interrupts(very easy to do).. All while still being very defensive with 3 blocks and decent condi removal through cleansing ire. This is also while having spam immobiles through leg specialits + flurry.

You can’t be serious calling this a “real condition warrior build”, Mace&Sword is one of the worst combination you can come with and you don’t have Fast Hand meaning you get stucked for 10sec with a subpar combination with no mobiliy whenever you would like to apply Torment or chain Stun your foe for the use of distracting strike + rune of perplexity. If you run 28K health and 3K armor it means you have almost 0 critical chance so you get almost no benefits from precise strike.

It is just a troll build, you get a lot of reflects and confusion but whenever someone sees trough your little game and take any form of condi removal, blind or stability you are left with subpar damage and no way to beat your opponent.

dank.3680:

The build itself was already over the top, these runes with no ICD made it utterly ridiculous.

I don’t think so, this build is probably one of the worst anyone could create, you will see a lot more Sw/Sw + longbow combos and Mace/Shield + Hammer running around and be a lot more effective.

I don’t think you understand my build at all, probably because it’s not a forum fotm build.. It’s totally ok that you don’t understand it but I’d like to point out that every assumption you made about the build was completely wrong. It does actually use fast hands btw so no I’m not stuck for 10s in a weapon set. You are wrong about the crit chance as well as I use a mixture of rabid and dire. Run about 50% on crit chance under fury which is plenty. The 28k hp is with guard stacks btw.

Sword/Shield Mace/Sword imo is far superior to s/s-longbow which I have also used. Just needs to be used properly which luckily thick headed people like you don’t think outside of set rotations and fotm forum builds. I am happy my build is not all over the forum and people like you assume it would suck, because I don’t want to fight against a bunch of ppl using it.

moutzaheadin.4029:

If this tanking continues. |XOXO| will be looking for a new home. We’ve talked about it after today’s shenanigans. I’ve had enough. The guild is disappointed that this server has stooped the the lowest of levels as to throwing a match to not advance.

I hope we pull a comeback I really do. If so we will stay. If not, I know I am 100% sure I am leaving Nsp. My guild totally agrees with me.

Ups and downs our guild has always thrown itself into the enemy zerg or taxi’d many of golems for pvdoor. We have done everything we can to help Nsp get better with what little numbers we had. Zerged or not

I personally loved being on Nsp. This week after being told I should xfer ( for being against teh tanking). It opened my eyes. People here want ez fights and there extra blue in the chest. Well you can have them. Salvage some for me.

Tanks for nothing
Obs

Just make sure you scrubs save a little gold pool to xfer me over wherever when I get back. <3