Guild Wars 2

BlazeQ.1095:

Started to have a nice 3v3 in NSP Stargrove camp, but then of course they called in the 15 others that had gone up the hill. Sucks not bieng able to find a decent fight in this matchup but it is what it is. Not going to start paying people to play for us so might as well live with it.

Do what I do… Dress up like a mooose and run around throwing siege at people… That or go build a golem in south camp and take it to their spawn point.. You may not live the encounters but it sure is fun..

Zenguy.6421:

Stormleaf.1769:

Obviously it’s not ideal, but nothing is going to be. Peoples’ effort would be better spent on coming up with solutions and work-arounds on their own.

Solution: swap the Bloodlust and Outmanned buffs.
This will improve the balance between servers (and in doing so make WvW more interesting) as well as allow GvG to continue.

(I don’t know who first came up with this idea but it’s an excellent one, which is why it keeps getting raised. IIRC, the basic idea was around before ANet announced the Bloodlust buff and it keeps being repeated because it’s such a good idea. It’s possible Anet have missed this one, but I’d be surprised given how often it keeps appearing.)

I actually first posted the idea of swapping outmanned with the original orb buff back on gw2guru.com a long time ago.. Someone did bring it over here and the idea was acknowledged by devs at the time (and brushed off).

I don’t like the buff, just as I don’t like ascended and other crap like that such as pve mobs rallying people.

But that said, I think this change will give something more for us small groupers to do by fighting the guys trying to hold these zones… It’s not like the huge zergs will be camping them because it gives no wxp and they are mostly mindless lemmings following the wxp train..

Also, now others might stop QQing about us roamers since they will think we are “contributing” to their precious PPT with our stomps.

Pocachubbz.1928:

dank.3680:

Banzie.5248:

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Am I playing thief right yet?

No… It’s 5,22222222222222222222222222222,shadow refuge.

Theres gotta be a F1 in there somewhere.

Pft D/P don’t need the stealz… Do u even meta?

Even Tera which is a crappy game imo noticed a dueling/gvg community without anyone pointing it out to them and took it apon themselves just to build a simple arena area outside town for people to do their thing in.

Why can’t Anet do the same?

Banzie.5248:

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Am I playing thief right yet?

No… It’s 5,22222222222222222222222222222,shadow refuge.

How to pull zerglings away from a tower to get them to fight?

Simple – lay a trail of free siege, they cannot resist.

Tots.3056:

My two favorite servers. This will be interesting. Forum warrior build activate.

[Bags] from SBI is looking for 2v2-10v10 fights. Pm me if anyone is interested.

Good luck everyone.

No.

Sororita.3465:

Coults.8492:

I’ll be keeping an eye out for RUN, XOXO, SPCA and Jedi

jedi moved to BP and why you zerg rise!

Meh it’s reset night, even I am running with our zerg atm… Roaming doesn’t exist till later on reset night..

Boring week for roamers, good week for WxP trains..

Xom.9264:

JKFlipFlop.7123:

Hey BS, you are all good players and you run really good groups with tight coordination. I respect many of you. What I don’t respect is being asked to duel and then being told my build is cheese and the only reason I won is because of a certain food. If you can’t take losing and have to resort to insults or excuses then don’t duel.

I’m gonna switch my build up and adapt to fights, you can’t expect me to run the same thing every single time. There’s an infinite number of factors that can play into a fight. Some of your members are just really rude and it’s not something I’m gonna miss.

I agree BS is rude they call my necro cheese all the time call tons of builds cheese even their own builds cheese. Everyone calls condition cheese or regen bunker cheese or stealth cheese evade spam cheese….. the only thing not cheese for these people is direct damage. Clearly the only skilled meta was the start of the game when some classes could spam a few buttons and kill a target in seconds.

Yeah its pretty funny when a guild running full groups of everyone using perplexity calls another build cheese.

Yeah warriors aren’t tough enough, we need permanent protection.. LOL

Man Daecollo I like that you are dedicated to the class and want to improve it, but come up with stuff that actually has a chance of being accepted?

Zephyrus.9680:

Mattargul.9235:

When you level it causes a huge blowback to enemies around. I think that’s still the case in WvW, so it should be noticeable to you if you are on top of the guy.

What?… That’s a visual effect and only for your team.

lol no it’s not.. It’s an aoe blowback effect, I’ve had it happen to me many times, and also been on the giving end of it.

Lahel.6381:

I’m finding it hard to figure out whether this is sarcasm or not o.O

Pretty sure it’s serious, and I like the idea.

cyyrix.6105:

dank.3680:

lol grats on your 3 kills.. Not sure what this is supposed to be really..

Still two more kills than XOXO managed in this “highlight”….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_8Hu8XfG4

lol grats on killing one greenie that was separated from the zerg.

lol nice.. That was when I very first started playing Warrior, no idea he recorded that kitten.. Had I seen it I would have been embarrassed, certainly not posting it to brag about rofl…

Man I ran a stupid build back then too, still had fun with it tho.

Centhis.5071:

I was the other guy, I was at the camp first, waited about 30 seconds for my guildy to catch up..we watched for a min to see if he had friends coming, then stealthed, then double backstabbed him. He dropped with that and 1 more attack. I stealthed us while he went for a finish. He teleported which is fine, then immediately after teleporting he popped up at full health. Now if he rallied from a kill (and there is nothing at all in this camp to rally from or even near the camp) that’s fine but how was he instantly at full health? Im not one of those guys that pays to much attention to the details but Im pretty sure that you don’t rally to full. And the chances of someone killing something or him getting credit for something at exactly that time, and being close enough to level from that is close to an improbability, no? There are a quite a few people running hacks in the game, I’m pretty sure this was one. I admire players that outmatch me, which happens fairly often seeing as Im not a hardcore gamer. But this was not one of those times.

If he popped up at full health then it is most likely he leveled. Which is quite annoying and has happened against me lots of times. You are lucky you weren’t right next to him or you would have been blown a mile away too..

GOM when I’m trying to help you defend your keep, pls stop shooting cannons at me.. ty

@ the GOM Mesmer inside bay – Sorry my crew got caught opening inner for you! We tried, better luck next time!

@ET l2sweep kthnx.

I introduce the new roaming meta:

It is very powerful.. But alas the zerg too stronk and we are defeated!

I was thinking there should be foods/runes/traits etc that could reduce condition damage, not just durations.

But your idea is terrible.

lol grats on your 3 kills.. Not sure what this is supposed to be really..

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Natar.3671:

Brahmus.5180:

Dank did not take part in this cap of bay.

after that capping, this happened

Not really surprising. We already told you we don’t have a morning crew. Congrats I suppose.

For the record when we took bay with 5 people, 2 of which immediately signed off. One of your commanders spotted us when we were just starting inner, instead of bringing in some defense him and 5 other guys went and built 2 trebs outside the north outer gate(they had them finished by the time we capped). They then brought a Golem for inner which we couldn’t stop. They made it into the lord room where the 3 of us wiped the 6 of them.

It took quite awhile of fighting them before we were able to push out and kill the trebs and get gates repaired(also repelling a ram attempt after the trebs were destroyed) since they kept coming back quickly after they would die. ie we kill 2 and be fighting the rest while the first 2 show back up etc..

So there really was no excuse for this other then a bad decision made by the people you did have available to just let us cap it and try to take it back right away, rather then doing what we did and actually trying to defend it.

At any rate, it was fun and I still don’t care about the PPT.

I R SOLO U TOWER GOM..

No other noobs get credit for this pvwall.. I am champion!

Well im having a million times more fun in this match then last week thats for sure.. At least with GOM and ET I know when I get bored of being zerged I can find duels and 2v2 3v3 etc with good players through most of the day..

Thanks to all I fought today.. And thank you BS guild for giving me something to do with the 100 arrow carts lana gave me.

JKFlipFlop.7123:

Buddy.7563:

Is this your necro?

Yes, that is me getting mauled.

You look outplayed, baddie.

sephiroth.4217:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

sephiroth.4217:

Guys from GoM, I really don’t know what the issue is that you have to get people to message RUN members and troll us on another server but please grow the kitten up.

RUN left cause you as a server trolled too much for dedicated WvW players to bother staying in. My guild has been complaining to me about being trolled by GoM members and now first hand I am copping the kitten too.

Those are the facts, please stop accusing us and trolling us over a game especially when we are not even on the server anymore. We left to get away from it.

(dunno who this loser is in chat, but this is one of em and it’s really pathetic.)

Report them and move on. No need to dump your drama on the rest of us.

I wouldn’t have too if people from GoM just left us alone not too mention we are copping GoM’s drama through private chat. And yes I reported them, and I have held my tongue for a week while guild members complained so this isn’t “drama” as you put it, it’s more making a response after a week of thinking it would blow over.

I’m sure you can handle a post asking people to stop, and I think it’s fair to ask people to stop for the first time after a week of this.

When you bring it into a public topic that you really have no interest in since you aren’t on these three servers, then it becomes drama.

JamboHammer.4397:

its funny how i transfered out of nsp to gom and all i see is nsp running there mouths talkin kitten about gom
ya u can outman a server that lost 300+ wvw players grats nsp (:
when u guys were outnumbered and getting smooshed i rem the servers talkin kitten about u guys and now u try to do the same thing.

—Crit Sinn

Nobody is talkin kitten calm down critty.. It’s called a joke.. <3 GOM

pita spoon.5708:

Natronix.9827:

Rob is back at forum warring.

This is lovely

Since when does Os have 75 man zergs.

Why am I on this thread.

it was just a counter to the so called 30man zerg we had, ik neither is true just throwing my weight around and I have plenty of that. it was more like 40 nsp vs 15 gom,, somewhat those numbers but either way the same result. we got steamrolled.

take 40 skilled nsp vs 15 skilled gom and odds are the 40 is gonna win. although we did slap you around a little bit this weekend even though it was only a little bit.

You seem to imply there is anyone on GOM with skill.. mind blown

Nordic Natedog.4360:

dank.3680:

Natronix.9827:

Rob is back at forum warring.

This is lovely

Since when does Os have 75 man zergs.

Why am I on this thread.

Since when does NSP in general have 75 man zergs, or anything close to that – ever..

Quite entertaining hearing GOM complain about NSP having too many people, first for everything I guess.

There have been 2 comments referencing anything close to a complaint on size coming from GoM. One referencing not missing the blobs of NSP. And the other being Pita stating Rod is pointing to 75 killing 30 as an accomplishment. Nice how people continue to fail miserably when it comes to truth on this forum.

In the past we had much greater numbers (and especially coverage) than we currently are fielding. At least as it related to our opponent. HoD plowed over us with constant much greater numbers as well as greater coverage. NSP looks to be doing the same. This isn’t to say that NSP doesn’t have great players and great coordination because they certainly do.

You sound mad.

Here.

Natronix.9827:

Rob is back at forum warring.

This is lovely

Since when does Os have 75 man zergs.

Why am I on this thread.

Since when does NSP in general have 75 man zergs, or anything close to that – ever..

Quite entertaining hearing GOM complain about NSP having too many people, first for everything I guess.

Commmon guys quit hatin PvDoor is hard and PPT is so ever important. Jelly.

NSP must be glad to see GOM , since we have a queue in their bl.. wtf o.O

-Forgot to say, it will be nice to be back to trolling people who can handle it- and troll back, unlike the crapfest we had last week.

DevonCarver.5370:

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

DevonCarver.5370:

The mats will absolutely drop in WvW. In addition, generally speaking, we are putting a heavier emphasis on finding long-term solutions to redressing the reward imbalance between PvE and WvW. I can’t claim they will ever be 100% equal all the time, but we would like it to never be the case that you are choosing between playing WvW and getting good rewards. The two should be one in the same.

Does this mean we can also look forward to Ascended items from WvW badge rewards? I’m talking about back pieces and accessories of course.

I’m not going hold my breath on this one.

Purely from badges, no. We will be getting Ascended back items into WvW and accessories are already there. We’ve been focused on the Ascended items more generally and not specifically in WvW right now. However, we will make sure WvW is at parity with the rest of the game in terms of Ascended gear.

How can you say the way you are implementing it into WvW is even close to on par with the pve method of getting them. Just to obtain ONE earring from WvW’ing it takes a MONTH worth of dailies/monthly. ONE ITEM a MONTH.. In a month a PVE player will have a FULL SET. WTF How is this even close to “on par” or fair..

I have 6 characters I like to WvW with all of them, each one of them uses 4-5 gear sets as I don’t want to play the same build all the time.. Already I am at a disadvantage from the Ascended accessories since I can’t stand the PVE in this game. Now you are adding Ascended weapons and not only that buffing all the Legendaries all the PVE players bring into WvW making me at even more disadvantage..

I sure hope your statement here means you are going to change the implementation of gaining Ascended for pure WvW players to remain competitive. As of now 40 laurels + 50 ectos as a cost for one ring to a WvW player is a huge slap in the face and beyond unfair.

BlazeQ.1095:

Chris.4527:

[One] really doesn’t play for points either. We roam map to map looking for fights, possibly flipping keeps or coming to the aid of our server if a fight is brewing since we’re always located in the servers TS3.

Us [One] guys are the lunatics who go golem crazy in the morning hours. It’s just for fun, fighting these lower tiers is all about WXP till we eventually get up in tiers. :p Why not use it! It’s great the things you can accomplish when your guild works together.

But overall, like last night, and many other nights before that. You guys had supreme numbers by far like 3-5 guilds vs just ours :p. Splitting your forces up will give you more rewarding fights. Us [One] guys still ran into you, like last night for example when you guys outnumbered us 2:1 since its the closest thing we can get for good fights in this tier.

During NA hours, you guys are definitely much stronger then yaks bend. I hope if we run into you guys again, you split them massive groups you guys have up a bit though.

In the lower tiers, you will only find worse guilds in open field combat. If you’re wanting to excel as a guild other than slaughtering pug groups – PPT might be something you’ll care about. I would think you would want more fights with us [One] guys, I am sure you guys picked up a bit more things in your arsenal this week after fighting a stronger guild than just a normal zerg, yeah?

Who is he talking to?

Himself as usual.. Yes Chris we know you are the master of all tactics and the best player in the game, and by extension so is anyone else who follows you around ([ONE]). You don’t have to repeatedly tell us about it.

Even though I hate zerging and am a small group roamer, I don’t think there is any reason to punish people who like to run in large groups. We don’t need to eliminate zerg they have a purpose and are a perfectly legitimate way to play. What we need is incentive for small group play.

Gully.7358:

Fuzzion.2504:

Not much difference in skill except in tier 1 we have to learn how not to get too greedy because a zerg could be right around the corner.

Roamers in higher tiers learn to handle larger groups better then those that play in lower tiers, so the mindset of how to approach fights will be different.

For example; A player from a lower tier would probably be less likely to be spotted near orange swords as to where players in the higher tiers will stalk zergs just to see how many they could kitten off.

Also I think the pace is a lot faster in the higher tiers due to the amount of people and due to that you need to have a bit more awareness. If you aren’t aware of what’s going on around you, higher tiers can be really frustrating.

We run across orange swords all the time in lower tiers too, and we do the same thing with them. As someone who has played on nearly all the servers (even Blackgate) I can tell you the skill of roamers (or anyone) has nothing to do with tiers. In fact a lot of solo and small group roamers have played on both high/low tiers and transferred around.

quickflash.6314:

The most hilarious part of this whole HACK discussion. Is if you look in almost every other matchup thread you can almost see our conversation repeated.

I love how everyone initial response when they are losing is

HACKS!

I’ve played WvW since release, I’ve never once accused someone of hacking on this forum. I have been on a lot of servers who lost a match and that never bothered me. I don’t go around haphazardly accusing people of things but I KNOW what I saw..

mrstealth.6701:

Ben K.6238:

It’s hard to take anyone in your guild seriously when your commanders are complicit in this.

I shouldn’t have to remind those trying to implicate an entire guild that anyone can get a commander tag. While our ranks are somewhat sorted to have those known to actively use their tag in wvw in the appropriate rank, they are not the only ones that have it. This of course complicates the matter of actually finding who is being accused and determining whether they have actually done anything.

I see plenty of accusations in this thread, from all sides, of another team glitching into towers, through gates, or doing this and that under suspicious circumstances. It is often impossible to determine if these claims are true, someone mistakenly labeling legit gameplay as cheating, or outright lying. There are only a couple instances I have any specific information about, largely because posting such information here is not allowed. But any that I do know/find out about, I intend to do what I can to ensure it does not happen again, or at least does not happen under my guild’s banner.

Human Male wearing Sunrise, wearing a tag everytime I see him. Can’t be that hard to figure out.

Wreckdum.8367:

dagger/pistol videos are so boring to watch. Unless it’s thief vs 10 people it’s not very interesting. Jonathan Sharp decided the only counter to a d/p s/d thief is 10+ people. Or another d/p thief and then those duels are even more boring than a thief face rolling other classes that can’t reset the fight every 3 seconds.

http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2/c/2831244

Pretty much everything that is currently wrong with GW2 balance in under 22 minutes. And I looked up the guy to make sure he isn’t just some scrub. He’s rank 48 on the EU leaderboards for group tourny so he knows his kitten about group fights.

You sound mad.

Sykper.6583:

blah blah blah i am so mad

Well I have seen several YB hacking with my own eyes.. It’s cute that you make up a story of a “likely scenario” when you weren’t even there, to counter what people who WERE there saw though. But it doesn’t matter, no words you say can change what I have SEEN with my own eyes over the course of this week.

Also about the QQ of SBI building open field siege, just LOL… I can’t count how many times Yak’s has flash built superior ballistas against us in the open field or in camps even when outnumbered us 2 or 3 to 1. Actually I did count once, the other day me and Obsession were duoing camps and we had 9 ballistas built against us over the course of about 2 hours.

KTDannyCZ.2910:

But really though.. New fun vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frDrX4sUcAE

You are all in it.

I must get that finisher.

Ronin.4501:

Just a heads up to NSP players, YB likes to have some of their members -edited- hack into spawn to spy on your golems/attack your golems. Real class act.

EDIT: got the name of the guild wrong initially…but we had several players frapsing the incident, so can confirm the guild acronym later. Definitely a -edited- guild though.

EDIT 2: Confirmed it was -edited-

This post will be infracted if you don’t move the guild tag/name, like the other reports in this thread of the same guild being caught hacking multiple times in different ways.

Riondron.1069:

@dank…

stuff that made the post over 5001 chars

That’s my point, actually. Chess is by nature not an inherently fair game unless the match is made to be so. A Chess champ could play a beginner and win easily. The beginner can still have fun knowing it is impossible for him to win. Why? The champ could also still have fun, even though the win did not matter as it was a known factor from the start. Why?

I would have fun win or lose in the 1v1 difficult fights, or any difficult fight I might be in. Sure it is MORE rewarding to win, but only because it was challenging. It is NOT fun or rewarding AT ALL for me to win something where I had no risk of losing. UNLESS I am helping them learn and better themselves!

I don’t watch football, but I do watch UFC. You know what I see when a fighter loses a difficult fight? Praise to the winner, and gratitude for the tough fight. I see many a fighter who lost a fight but comments on how enjoyable it was anyways.

And I stand by my statement that we can’t win, because of coverage. That in no way implies that I look down on NSP, I don’t see how you could even draw that conclusion.. If I said- We have even population and coverage but it will be impossible for us to win, THAT would be implying the server is bad.

And again I’ll say, I have never seen NSP win a match where we were out-coveraged during the course of it. Yes, we beat HOD once, while they were PVE’ing, the next week they stomped a mudhole in us when their population returned to WvW.. This also goes for all servers in all matches I’ve been on in the game over the duration of its existence, not just NSP.

To imply that you can outskill the major PPT advantage that servers with superior coverage gain is ridiculous.

Once again, I LIKE NSP, I think NSP has a ton of great players! EVEN ones in large PPT orientated guilds like OS, in fact I have a lot of good friends in them! So quit implying that I am putting down the server just because I state that winning or losing a match (ON ANY SERVER MATCH) relies most heavily on population and coverage and thus, doesn’t really matter.

This will be my last reply to you as at this point I get the feeling I am just being trolled.

Yam.2891:

guys i think the real discussion should be ‘who is the cutest charr of nsp: wafflez, kevin mr ele, otter space or puppytown’

Obviously Bamf Joe.

Riondron.1069:

@dank

4. And we’re back to my lousy sports analogy again “desire to win a “game” like chess, golf, baseball, football, soccer, hockey, basketball, monopoly, checkers, Call of Duty, or even a first grade spelling bee, incites such strong emotional and psychological responses both within the participating players, and/or the fans and spectators of such “games” ?(and yes, the above examples are games)”……so…read it 5 more times and point out your single-minded misconstruction of the entire concept. The implied ideal here is that the teams are evenly numbered on the playing field. Sorry, but just don’t see anything mentioned here about being outnumbered in ANY way whatsoever. LOL, I even threw in checkers and chess, which are evenly matched 1v1 games, but you must have missed that also. (can you even tie your own shoes?) It was entirely written to draw a comparative correlation on the psychological rewards of playing with a goal in mind, and that is called ‘winning’.

I’ll agree to disagree with most of your post (even agree with some of it actually). But what I’ll address is this quote here.

Let me ask you something. If you play Chess or Checkers against your 5 year old child, do you play with the same desire to “win” or, do you just play to play and have fun in the process? If you played a game of COD 5vs10 of equally skilled players and you were on the side with 10, would you be playing to “win” knowing you have a major – most likely result defining advantage, or would you be playing just to play and have fun in the process.

The emotional response in playing these games is prompted by being faced with a challenge and trying your best to overcome it, not the sole result of winning. Also from being with and working together with people you build a relationship with over time. For some people it is all about being on the winning team, but mostly those people are insecure and have other issue that need validation.

The fact is taking a tower with 30 people that is being defended by 5 or 10(or none) is not a challenge whatsoever, and any sane/self-confident person should not experience a strong emotional response from it. Being able to choke-point a tower entrance with 5 arrow carts against any number of targets (50 target limit on AC), is also not a challenge and mostly points to the other sides lack of coordination rather then the AC’s abundance of it.

It is also a fact that in the last year the LARGE majority of matches have been in-balanced population/coverage wise. Sometimes 2 of the servers are closely matched while the third isn’t, but very rarely have all 3 been on even grounds.

Going by your logic, that we should all be playing with the goal of “winning” in mind, in order to receive an emotional and psychological reward. Should we as a server quit playing for the week, since it is obviously impossible that we will even come in second? The chances of us winning are none, and it is because of population and coverage-period.

And yes, I did a bit of server hopping… I got bored being on top servers who never had any challenge. I enjoyed FC but left because I followed friends who were bored with the maps being completely unpopulated most of the time. Contrary to what you might believe I actually love being on NSP and have a great relationship with many, many people on the server- even with the large/point orientated guilds such as OS.

Wreckdum.8367:

Bahahahahaha. That’s all I have to say to everything that’s been said by XOXO since last night. You people are truly insane. The separation between real life and GW2 has been blurred.

You claim to not care about anything and be casual… But you guys are soooooooooo passionate about what anyone says on the forums.

Be careful when XOXO talks trash to you. If you say something back the forum warriors all get together and spam flag your post as offensive and you’ll be infracted. (2nd time in less than 12 hours they got me.)

Basically XOXO treats this forum like YouTube and abuses the flag button to get things taken down that aren’t even offensive.

Bwahahaah is all I have to say about you talking a bunch of crap in game and challenging me to a duel multiple times then being a no-show when I accepted. You are a coward.

P.S- Bull Rush my Aegis more, LOL.

Art.9820:

I’m sorry but I just have to step in again….

You talk so much about fairness & handicap that I’m overwhelmed, you’re 100% convinced that roaming in WvW is such a fair game…. seriously you should move to sPVP where you don’t have so many tangents, have a look into context next time…

The context of what I said was in reply to him bringing up “pride” in winning. No I don’t feel pride when I stomp an up-level, or a group who is not a challenge in whatever way for whatever reason. Yes I do have a lot of fun and get a sense of pride when I am able to win a hard fight with a good player. Sometimes the challenge is because we have 3 people fighting against 15, even if they are not good at playing their classes, it’s still challenging and thus fun/rewarding.

8) Current Context (This my favorite, you think everyone is ready to 1v1 against you? for real? in spvp you have a better idea of what it’s going but once the match is ready, you know everyone is ready to cast ALL their skills, people could have a lot of skills under CD in WvW)

No I don’t expect everyone to be ready to 1v1 me or have the ability to beat me. I do respect anyone who tries though much more then those who are afraid to. Even if they have to run for CD’s to reset and then come back.. It’s to the point these days where I almost always invite someone who dares to fight me 1v1 in the open world so I can thank them for the fight and compliment them on what they did well, since MOST people just run away if they don’t outnumber you.

Some of my best friends in the game are people who were inexperienced and tried to fight me anyways, lost but kept trying. Asked for and received advice from me and wanted to improve their play. Some of my other best friends are those who stomped me when I first met them, in fact that’s how I met the group I currently run with. When I first met them (Envy at that time), Andromeda kicked my kitten in a duel.

Extra Zergs barely pay attention to small squads if you happen to call their attention it’s mostly because of context, I remember someone posted pics of getting ganked by 20+ against a small squad, do you even know why so many people are there in the 1st place?, obviously it’s gotta be because you guys are there!…. get my ego point now?

I have yet to meet a zerg in the last year that restrained from chasing me across half the map when they ran across me solo.

Also that SS I posted, those people were indeed there to fight the 7-8 spca/tm as there was nothing else going on in the map besides the fight over that camp. I wasn’t even part of the battle as you could see by the SS I was on a low 20’s character standing off to the side watching the show. And I posted the SS not to mock, but to praise those guys, so I’m not really sure how my ego plays into that, but anyways.

No one cares about ppt score anymore? Look at EB http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/937
A few hours ago our server owned all the map, now it looks like SBI and NSP are taking it back slowly, a lot of people do care about score.

I never said nobody cares, I said it doesn’t matter.

Stop saying that WvW is only for roaming that is just laughable.

Again, never said that. My replies in this thread have been in defense of attacks on my playstyle, not the other way around.

It’s the worst place to have real 1v1 matches.

Maybe for you, for me I enjoy the challenge of figuring out how to beat a Mesmer in Ascended gear with guard vitality buffs on my Warrior with exotics and no vitality buff.

Riondron.1069:

dank.3680:

Riondron.1069:

Numbers? Since when does NSP have numbers? I am seriously rofl! And we have one many times!

Please point out the last time NSP won a match against same or larger numbers. And you don’t get to include beating HOD during super fun box week when even though they have a larger WvW population, they weren’t there during the week and we in fact had larger numbers in WvW.

Oh and by the way, it’s funny that you use sports as an analogy. You know a fun fact about every single one of those sports? If the teams are not exactly even, the game doesn’t get played. Why? There is no “pride” in beating a handicapped team.

sorry u took the sports analogy to another planet. numbers were never an intended part of it….

Since I can’t aquire the stats for how many ppl were online during the matches. I will simply post the weeks that we ended in first place. we were not outnumbered for all of them, but I will give a very conservative 65% to 75% of the time we were. we don’t have the greatest record, nor are we dead last, as seems to be the general direction of all the doom and gloom. and some of the weeks where we lost, was against major servers, that we did rather well against, all things considered.
32 29 28 27 25 10 50 46
yes it looks terrible, and there are a number of 2nd place finishes. we have improved though. and yes, if we all start playing together more, it will improve, along with our population as a result of the wins.

Well that’s your problem if you refuse to acknowledge that numbers plays the largest role in determining who wins or loses a match. The fact is your analogy is bad exactly because of that. In sports you don’t play lopsided teams, and if you do – there certainly wouldn’t be any pride in beating the team with fewer players as everyone knows they were severely handi-capped. Even in a game like COD, which you also used, a DeathMatch that is 5vs10 is not something the team having 10 people would brag about, it is not something to be “proud” over.

Do you really think we lose so much because NSP is a terrible server? If you look at our record, at how much the server loses the matches and then refuse to believe that score is mostly determined by population and coverage then that is exactly what you are saying. Therefore it is you that is being insulting to the server as a whole.

Now that we hopefully agree that the score is largely determined by population and coverage(because I’m sure you don’t want to insult the entire server by assuming they are all terrible players which is the alternative), then perhaps we can also agree that in the end, it does not matter one bit.

I see it every day, every match. Our BL gets zerged to hell by 2-3-4-5 times our numbers.. I stand in a tower with 5 other people trying to defend against 30+ and watch each one get taken with little we can do about it. By the time it gets to the last structures usually around the point where we are about to lose Garrison or have lost it, then we’ve finally gotten maybe 20 people together at the same place in the map. It is about this time the other team leaves the map to go pvdoor other things, while we pvdoor our map back in the same fashion as it was taken from us.

Even though I don’t give 2 kittens about the final score of the match. I still “contribute” plenty. I will always be there to help someone defend a tower when they ask for it, because I actually happen to be a compassionate human being. I will try my best to help defend that tower, even if ultimately I don’t care whatsoever if it is won or lost in the end.

For the record, I’ve played on just about every server in the game. I’ve played on the “top” servers. I was once a little zergling too, I once though the score and wins/losses mattered. I started the game on the HOD server at release when they were completely dominate for a large string of matches. I played on Blackgate from the time they hovered in 4th/3rd place until the move into #1. I know exactly what it’s like being on the other side of things.

In the end, I moved to a lower pop server that was always outnumbered (Ferguson’s Crossing in last place). It was there I realized how little the final scores actually meant and learned how to really have fun and feel pride in my abilities as a player in WvW.

Riondron.1069:

Numbers? Since when does NSP have numbers? I am seriously rofl! And we have one many times!

Please point out the last time NSP won a match against same or larger numbers. And you don’t get to include beating HOD during super fun box week when even though they have a larger WvW population, they weren’t there during the week and we in fact had larger numbers in WvW.

Oh and by the way, it’s funny that you use sports as an analogy. You know a fun fact about every single one of those sports? If the teams are not exactly even, the game doesn’t get played. Why? There is no “pride” in beating a handicapped team.

GabGar.4962:

dank.3680:

Art.9820:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Art.9820:

dank.3680:

Art.9820:

KTDannyCZ.2910:

Yesterdays jazzy jazz goin down. I love watching the other servers ketten-talk but fail to back it up. Ignore the badness in this vid.. I forgot how to theef obviously

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUJGncVR-jo

Yea…. because everyone is very egocentric and we have this “weird” need & urge to record ourselves to show it off lol

Wow Danny must be like the first person to ever record himself playing a video game.. How very “egocentric” of you Danny, you must be a horrible person.

yup the thin line between sharing and showing off

Chris.4527:

Fun video of [One] trolling around, starring our morning crew.

You NSP guys are persistent as all hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JoVA0UL385Y

Now this is what I acknowledge as “recording for fun” lol, man now that I think of… I wish I had recorded yesterday’s NSP fail, 25 NSP against 10 of us in a T2 tower and they all died at the gate haha it was epic

KTDannyCZ.2910:

F5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5f5

Now you should learn something and actually include your failures but I guess you gotta eat, ego ego ego ego nomnomnom

Ill bite ole Arty boy,

Watching some of both videos. Dannys video shows reaction and skill vers other players. you have to think as you fight and know what your fighting or you fail.

Chris’s video shows nothing more then stacking up and mashing Aoe’s inside of mobs of red. Not caring what the situation is or reacting to nothing, just MASH MASH MASH.

Im not even sure i understand how people play this way. I like to read and react to people trying to use different builds and strategy’s in a smaller scale setting.

Step away from your zerg, you will learn your class and be a better player for it.

that is all , ty.

Haha because I zerg a lot buddy… you seem to know me very well! I think you missed where I said 10v25 thought…. or maybe just ignored it for convenience? oh well who knows…. but yeah the thing is that I have enoyed killing most of xoxos in wvw seems like you guys can only hold in bunker groups, so please don’t come here and act like you’re really skilled xD that is just hilarious when it comes to 1v1 you are awfully bad you are way to dependable of your bunkers builds….. but hey! in the end you guys manage to cap camps…. attaboy!

Lol Obsession you really should stop bunkering with that mega 15k hp… Honestly l2p Obsession quit hiding behind your bunker mesmer.

You should ask MEX about our 5v5’s last night that each ended in under 30 seconds.. Also ask them about the lvl 24 XOXO Ranger who beat their 80 necro in a duel…

Oh and if you want some 1v1’s I’m sure there are plenty of XOXO who would be glad to put their tbag where your mouth is.

Oh and @chris —-- LOVE YA!! Miss ya here on NSP!

For god sake. You just lost all respect I had for your guild…

First of all MEX is training out there, we have a lot of newcomers of wvw, we had at that day only 3 previous sessions. We accepted your challenge as part of our training.

Second we didnt had any mesmers in our 5 group (they going to sleep at that time), not even thief.

Third: You are probably good players, but you lack a lot as persons, you are just gaining the reputation of a bad joke, and an example of how not to be as guild/players in the field. Shame.

If you want to boast of something, defeat a veteran guild in gvg, not a bunch of newcomers in training process.

GabGar
La legión del águila [MEX]

It was just an example of the fact that we don’t run a bunch of bunker guilds, calm down pls. I respect you guys for taking the 5v5 especially if you are an inexperienced group, even if it isn’t returned.

You people should really take this game, and these forums much less seriously. It isn’t healthy.

Riondron.1069:

dank.3680:

Riondron.1069:

KTDannyCZ.2910:

yes. YB and SBI are bigger and better zerger servers. Since ive transferred to NSP i have captured a total of 3 towers and 1 keep over a period of a few months. I dont care about winning/score neither do the rest of us

Dude….please…don’t try to speak for the rest of us.
I have taken at least: 10-15 towers, flipped camps 40+ times, and taken keeps (hills an bay) at minimum 15 times, all since the restart, as have just about everyone on all the servers.
So for you to say ‘3 towers and 1 keep’, is absolutely absurd, unless you have only spent 30 minutes in wvw over several months. So please, don’t say that the rest of us don’t care about winning or points.

Is the word ‘I’ hard to understand? He didn’t say ‘we’ or anything like that, he said ‘I’.

better re-read the last line “neither do the rest of us”. ‘us’ is not ‘I’….or is the word ‘us’ hard to understand?

Ah you’re right I missed that part, guess I should slow down reading sometimes. my bad.. Still, I don’t think he was referring to ‘us’ as the whole server..