“My class is balanced; it’s perfectly fine that i can run away and reset a fight whenever i want; someone who manages to actually kill me or doesnt die is OP!!”
typical thief-main-mentality…nothing new.Get your head out of your kitten there’s nothing unbalanced about being able to reset a fight. If you make a Thief run in PvP then you get the cap point, you won. If you make a Thief run in WvW, you get the supply camp/protect the dolyak/etc and you’ve won. A Thief doesn’t run because he can kill you, he runs because he attempted to kill you and you beat him to a pulp.
Seriously, it’s not hard to understand, and it’s people like you who feed the QQ-train.
So you notice how when you “lost” as a thief you didnt die right? You said yourself you just ran away.
THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS FOR NECROS
necro was strong(very strong) before patch – the only thing they needed was something to can avoid a fight so enemy dont zerg the necro down
they dont needed a buff in dmg and this will never stay how it is atm or necro will be the first banned class on tournaments^^
I will assume this is a troll because necros before were not strong at all. They had a single spec that was viable and even then other classes could do it better. You needed a team BUILT AROUND the necro because you couldn’t do kitten on your own AND the only reason you got to go was for your Signet of Undeath (which was probably OP).
So people are mad that Necros are like a real class now?
I know. Competitive players like myself will just remove GW2 when a different studio decides to take competitive PVP seriously.
Good luck finding an MMO that has better competitive PvP.
Plenty of other genres of games lend themselves much better to PvP, go play DOTA2 or SC2 or CS, THOSE games are competitive and balanced.
Class based PvP is inherently wonky.
Andele again its PER not PRE I have seen you do this everytime you write the word and it still makes no sense.
Good compilation, have tried a couple of these from your other threads along the way. I always have faith in your builds / thoughts.
Thanks for the hardwork!
friend of mine did a power build and claimed to get 6k crits auto attack in death shroud and nearly 100% crits. i would say, this is kind of op.
You could do 6k crits with DS1 forever. The damage on that skill didnt change just the way it calcs it did. Also to get damage like that you have to be in all Zerker and suffer just like other Zerker builds; you are a piece of paper to incoming damage.
Ya Eng are still really good and didnt they get a buff this patch to some of their Elixers?
As for Necro, I played a bunch yesterday and it really invigorated me! We can hold our own now against other classes and dont just curl up and die to Mesmers, I think like any large change in a game like this it will take a couple weeks to really tell if we are OP or balanced about right. My gut tells me that we are in a pretty good spot and that people just need to learn how to fight an actual class not whatever we were before yesterday.
Ya this patch makes me feel like I am playing a real class and not a jokes one. Time will tell if we are overpowered but it doesn’t feel like it, just feels like we are good now instead of trash.
You guys complain way too much!!!!!
If this is true, they gave you almost everything they promised. More damage, More mobility, and staying in fight longer. You didn’t get ways to escape, but they never promised that!
And they also swore minions will get buffed. They talked so much wind about buffing their hp… not that it would make any difference unless they gave them a few mils hp each they would still get 1 shotted by aoe in any meta events like there is no tomorrow. They promised fixes… they promised vampiric traits being more noticable. They expicidly stated doing something with reanimator. None of that is here. You get turned into a welfare ele and your happy about it.
Oh wait… everyone else got buffed in most cases far more then necros. So you will still be bottom of the barrel. Yay…
And we still have a mile long list of bugs stickied right here on front page. Half of them were here since beta.
Being a groopie hipster must be nice. No matter what crap gets thrown your way by your idol you keep cheering like its made of wuv and happiness. Pfft
Being a permanent cynic is much better, you are right we should never be happy. Even though they buffed power builds/ well builds/ condition hybrids/ SR builds/ Terrorbuilds AND added what will probably be some kind of spectral super bunker build.
Sure they didnt fix EVERYTHING but no one expected that, well other than you because you live in some fantasy land.
So whats your complaint exactly??
Also, the GM SR trait is probably 50% increased crit chance which means it will take a 50% crit to 75% and not just ADD 50%. That way you still need precision to get good crit chance.
When are we taking bets on our level of disappointment with the “balance patch”?
Ya, it seems to just randomly miss a lot of the time even if they are standing stock still in front of you. Considering its on a 40s cooldown and most classes will be able to cleanse and rebuff LONG before it comes back up it should automatically connect through ANYTHING (so should epi).
The fact thakittens a MUST TAKE and its buggy as all hell and yet we all STILL take it says a lot about the sad state of the Necro at the moment.
EDIT: Really ANet? Really?? Saying that its, gets blocked by your filter… how bad are you guys at writing the rules for this forum.
First instead of epidemic why dont you use corrupt boon ? Now did i says i’m the best necro, no… But i seem to be the only one who’s not complaining for nothing because the class is well set.
‘’Shroud is supposed to be a refuge while you writtle them down with conditions’’ So we cant just use it to gain some boon and wait for our heal ? or maybe for the instant fear to counter a heal/revive ? Now i see why you think necro is bad… I start understanding…
I hope you are trolling, if not then you need to get out and play some pvp against opponents who are not braindead.
Necros are just so mediocre right now, we do nothing the best and are not quite good enough to be the all-rounder. Really since they have stated we wont get boons or disengage mechanics they need to make Siphon probably 4 or 5x more hp AND give us some passive death shroud regen that will be INCREASED by deaths or skills and not 100% from deaths or skills.
Also, why cant we start with like 25-50% LF in sPvP. You have to attrition in your first fight and yet with no death shroud its pretty f’ing hard to do.
Solid trolling 6/10, would read again.
Meep Meep!
For real though, if Meep isnt your favorite then your opinion is bad and you should feel bad. =)
Gambling is a real addiction.
No I’m serious. I really think many of the people making and posting repeatedly in these types of threads are gambling addicts.
They really can’t help themselves from spending money on beating the odds, despite all the evidence that suggests they will not, simple because there is a “chance”.
This, 100x this.
Its like after all the other gem store boxes have been crap chances people still buy them and then come to the forums to complain about RNG. YOU PURCHASED THEM KNOWING YOU WERE GAMBLING!
Not to mention that this event rewards the regular boxes insanely fast and its super easy to get a ticket if you want one. People need to take a step back from their instant gratification addictions and realize that the event lasts a whole month and there will literally be hundreds of thousands of boxes farmed up. They will be super cheap the last couple days of the event AND you can easily farm thousands yourself with just regular play.
Many MMO players need to either grow up or disconnect their credit cards from the game.
Same, its like good good good… pause… ;aslfjkd;salkdna;lsvnao (thats it catching up)
I’d be more inclined to agree with you if you “needed” the jade weapons, but you don’t. It’s just a skin, and every few months, there’s a new batch of em. I get it, you think some of the skins are pretty, and it’d just be dandy if you could get one or two for some characters, but we simply just do not need these items.
Yes, I know it’s really, really frustrating and annoying to literally flush hard earned money away. But, all I can say is just don’t do it then. If you want to support ANet, bye items which you are sure to get. And if you don’t like their practices with chance boxes, then don’t bye them.
There will be more skins. Some of them you’ll like, some of them you won’t. Some of them will be in chance boxes, some of them won’t.
And hey, of you really have had enough, stop playing. If you aren’t having fun in a game, what’s the point?
Subscription models allow you to unlock all the content, you realize how rare these skins are? You can’t even fill your PvP locker up… it’s ridiculous and weather he needs them or not, if you are a collector, you should be able to get them, especially if you are a good supporter(money invested), and you shouldn’t have to pay $500 to get enough ticket skins. This is poor practices on the games behalf and why subscription models are better than free models for dedicated gamers. Without dedicated gamers, Guild Wars 2 would keel over because it wouldn’t make any money, we should be the last people being screwed over. I’d rather pay $15 and get what I should be entitled to, rather then being expected to pay $500 a month due to all the people that don’t put any money into the game.
Sadly, bottom line, cash shops are like a pyramid scheme, certain types of players get screwed over pretty badly, just so they can label their game “free and awesome”.
Firstly, you dont know what a pyramid (multi-level marketing) scheme actually is.
Second, when you PAY $15 a month then you are entitled to things, when its free then you should never expect to get more than the $60 game you initially paid for.
Third, if subscription models actually worked anymore then you would see them still in new games, the fact that they are DEAD outside WoW says a lot about what the vast majority of players think of them.
This is a month long event and you are all crying about not instantly getting the rewards on the first day. These coffers are crazy common and there will be thousands upon thousands on the TP for super cheap in a few days.
For all the complaints about RNG and ANet, you people need to look at yourselves and your instant gratification fixation. Sometimes you dont get everything you want right away, and when they DO give you it all up front people cry that there is no reason to play or no challenge, etc. I hate to say it but you all do this to yourselves.
Just think Pixel that was in ONE DAY of the month long event. Is it really so hard to imagine getting a ticket with that many chances?
frequently?
have been reading the forums. I’ve not been keeping count but I’ve opened hundreds, and no ticket.People have opened thousands and no ticket….
Yes, they drop very frequently.
I bought 250 Dragon Coffers on the TP, after opening about 25 I got a ticket ^^You do not understand how random numbers works. You simply got lucky, and that is no basis for how to compile information on the frequency of the drops.
Last estimate I saw from the common coffers was at .05%. That is not frequent at all.
It becomes pretty frequent when you will have easy access to thousands during the month from YOUR farming alone, let alone if you buy off the TP.
Not only are the skins really nice this time around but they are pretty common to get. Without a ton of farming you can easily get 100 coffers in a single day and the event goes for a month.
Lets see if people really like having skins that everyone else has when the month is over or if people want to go back to the super rare Scelerite and Fused.
“Arenanet gave me something so that i forget the in game bullkitten they are doing to the entire community, so that i dont stop my ongoing financial support, better go get trolled by a blind kitten”
Fixed this for you. Look as i said before, a nice gesture doesnt mean its a honest one, if they would wanna say thanks to the people that spen 10$~ pre month for random gems since they like the game, they shouldnt treat the events that influence everyone as money flowing in from boxes in that you dont get a single jade skin despite dropping 50$ on it (i didnt personally since i learned it on mad kings, but you still get a nice ton of forum posts about the results).
I think your childish post basically sums up the forum ragers. You act like you have been personally affronted but then concede that it wasnt you at all and it was actually other people you just want to use broken English and rage out.
Grow up dude.
Agree!
/15 char
You dont need this for the Meta-Achievement since you only need 10 of 14.
Lots of pity party in this thread as well, some of you need to grow up a bit I think.
Isn’t there some saying about “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”
How do so many of you fall for this EVERY. SINGLE. TIME!?!?!?
They even made it easy to get the regular coffers… were you all too high to wait and see what the drop rates from those are?
A lot of these posts have to be people trolling, the poor English in every single one is a dead giveaway.
You realize that by next week there will be TONS of Zhaitaffy up on the TP for sale super cheap. I personally dont give a kitten about those wings and will be selling my Zhaitaffy after I eat the 250 for the achievement.
Inb4 vayne and the rest of the usual folk. Good post and I agree.
In after Gasoline QQing about Vayne.
As for OP, not sure what I can tell you. Maybe the next MMO will be able to keep that glow after all the paths of least resistance have been discovered, I’m not entirely sold on that possibility.
In b4 Uruz jumps on the Vayne bandwagon and helps keep the clear objectivity at bay with blind fandom.
The OP is absolutely correct. Something happened around November 2012 that changed everything and it’s been downhill ever since. Most titles would have had a massive ui rebuilding system update but here we are almost at the anniversary and we haven’t seen that yet. They wanted to bring people into the open world, but focus everyone in one spot on the map with every LS update. They want people to be interested in legendaries but fail to provide any method other than farming to get one but continue to nerf viable farming locations every month.
Something is very wrong, has been for a while.
I don’t have burnout and even I can see it. I’m presently playing three other mmo’s and in none of those do i have the issues seen in this game.
I would just like to point out that most titles get a UI overhaul because the ones they launch with cough SWTOR cough are HORRIBLE messes. While GW2s is far from perfect, its totally usable and uncluttered.
I would be willing to bet the OP and those with him are MMO locusts who go from game to game when they launch, beat all the new content really quickly then complain that there is “no endgame” or “no challenge” then move on to the next MMO.
You see, though, this is where your argument fails. I’m not a locust. I’ve only played one other MMO as much as I have GW2, and that MMO would be GW1.
I’m not playing this game because I liked the friggin’ boxart. I’m playing it because I’m a huge fan of the first game. I’m not going to just “locust on over to the next MMO” because this is the MMO I want to play, it’s just that I think a few things could be different. Get it?
My bet doesnt invalidate anything else I had said, also I never said constructive criticism isnt a good thing. I was just saying that people who look to MMOs for some kind of personal challenge are playing the wrong genre, MMOs and RPGs in general are about abnegation and not competitive skill.
I think each page of this thread is the same looping discussion over and over.
OP and those like him want new PvE content that is “challenging and rewarding” to them. The only thing they want to find challenge in is scripted encounters and NOT PvP (saying you just dont enjoy it is fine, saying you dont like it because you are somehow pro at PvP and others are baddies is laughable). I think its time for most of the hardcore raiders/PvErs to either take a long break from GW2 to find a new MMO to consume.
I would be willing to bet the OP and those with him are MMO locusts who go from game to game when they launch, beat all the new content really quickly then complain that there is “no endgame” or “no challenge” then move on to the next MMO. The thing is, MMOs are all easy, if you want challenging PvE then play a bullet hell shooter or go back and play some oldschool NES games that punish you for playing. Hell go play a genre that rewards only points on a scoreboard and then see if you can beat others high scores.
Looking for PvE challenge in an MMO is a pointless exercise as many have already pointed out.
I suggest playing some PvP or WvW. You may rock but most likely you’ll get your kitten handed to you. There’s no AI like a real opponent.
Pretty much this.
Seconded (Thirded?)
PvE content is only challenging until you have seen it a couple times, AI doesn’t change, it cant learn new strategies or ways to counter player groups (someday maybe) so why complain?
Its like complaining that the sun is hot or water is wet.
If what you crave is CHALLENGE and not just memorization then play some tPvP or even a different game that IS an e-sport like DOTA2, CS, SC2, etc.
MMOs are always casual, the fact that you preen over running the same AI encounter over and over is kinda sad (IMO).
I just wanna share this to all.. Enjoy guys
Deep Penetrations Hard core SEA GUILDSkills vs Numbers
I have to imagine you are trolling right? Not only are you clicking your skills but you mostly just use Staff 1 spam. Also you pretty clearly have equal or > numbers than they do, remember it doesnt draw all of your allies.
Do I get to make a wish if I collect 7 dragon balls and summon the dragon.
Depends on whether or not someone else has used the wish in the last year….
This event is looking awesome and they are clearly trying to cater to both the lovers of lottery (someone has to be buying boxes all the time) and to casual players with both the Rich Dragon Boxes (gem store I assume) and the regular Dragon Boxes (from drops/minigames/event stuff). To be honest this looks like its going to be the good kind of rewards ala Halloween and Wintersday and not the RNG only like Southsun and F&F.
SoS is an excellent server, all the cool kids want to be here! =)
You did fine, Thieves are almost unbeatable when played right and you are a CondiNecro. You cant condition them OR chase them OR burst them out. You have no real chance at winning unless they are horrible. Just hope that when Necros finally get buffed by ANet they do a good enough job to make you viable in a 1v1 and not need a babysitter like they currently do.
When you say rewarding what you mean is easy akitten farm. Why even play when thats all you are going to do in the game?
Oh there will be glorious QQ come June 11 when they remove these instigators from the game. I know the OP is being facetious but people are for real going to rage about ANet taking their “hard earned” farm away from them.
Note the poster above me QQing about a farming nerf in an area that was just silly (do 20 skelks really need to spawn at the same time?)
People quit games after 2 months of “farming” because if farming/grinding is the only way to obtain things and people feel its required then it burns them out because grinding is just that; A GRIND.
The ONLY thing in the entire game that requires ANY sort of grind is for Legendary weps, everything else is doable pretty quickly and easily (Exotic) or through dailies which come natrually through play (Ascended)
Some of you need to take off your rose colored glasses with the DAOC crap. That game had plenty of major problems of its own, I would love to come in here and tell you that Shadowbane had the greatest large scale PvP ever because it was for buildings and cities that took months of peoples work to build and the classes in that game were far far more unique than in any other game. That would be a lie though, SB had SO many problems just like DAOC.
There is NO REASON 8 people should be able to wipe out 20 by using the hilarious CC that was available in that game.
Xsorus, you a little kitten over losing to SoS more skilled players? I hope you are on CD, we love farming you guys.
The argument that we shouldnt complain because its “free stuff” is void and moot. One of the bigest issues with WvW has always been how much less rewarding it is compared to PvE.
And this is not going to remedy that problem. Its completely valid to complain that, after over 9 months, this issue still has not been properly adressed. Its all babysteps it seems.
You and all the other children can go do PvE then if its so “rewarding”. Seriously, I thought we all played WvW for fun and the thrill of beating up other people and their hardwork.
I also like how everyone overlooks the fact that you get A LOT more silver from these chests than you do from PvE chests. Also you have to go out of your way to get the PvE chests whereas you get these for just playing the game how you have always played it. Its literally 0 effort for more reward, UNLIKE PvE.
ANet: “Here, have some free stuff for something you were going to do anyway.”
QQers: “Sorry, but that free stuff isn’t good enough. By the way, you guys suck for giving us sub-par free stuff.”
Seriously guys, do you READ what you post? GET OVER IT. We’d all be playing with or without these rankings and chests. You’re getting something for nothing and you have the audacity to complain about it.
Actually I have modified how I spend time in WvW to accommodate earning wvwxp. It means I’m spending time doing things I don’t really like but the promise of “ecto” from the rank chests convinced me it was worth the time and energy. It was not, lol.
I don’t really enjoy PVE much but it looks like it will be required to help fund WvW time. (Frost Ma takes 5 minutes and yields 2 rares. Stupid mindless and boring but it certainly pays well)
I am happy to get more gear options and occasional rank chests for WvW. But it would have been nice to have it scale a bit better with time spent vs rewards compared to PVE.
This sums of the crazy duality of all of these posts. You say that PvE is “mindless and boring but it pays well”, and that WvW is fun and doesn’t pay as well. To me that sounds like a fair bargain. If you don’t care about PvE then what does it matter how much gold you have anyway? Fancy skins dont kill people any faster in WvW.
Thanks devs for the more pve in wvw!!! we need it!!!!! i play wvw only for gathering and for kill npcs for the daily!!! ty a lot!
Is this sarcasm? o_O
laurels and ectos for ascended items, and infusions against npcs. So no, it’s not sarcasm.
We’ll chalk it up to a lack of full comprehension then. Laurels come easy enough that I have ascended everything except the back piece right now. They’ll be even easier with the changes to dailies. The monthly is about to reset, if you haven’t finished it there’s 10 more waiting for you and 10 more about to become available.
Indeed man, but cmon.. im in wvw for the pvp not becouse i like waiting and farming dailies or ectos while i have tons of badges. It’s a kitten joke!
There is the pve for this thingsThere are three (now) daily items that are WvW specific. In addition, things like daily kills, kill variety, gathering, etc. all suppliment WvW and should be a part of your play regardless. Gathering, for example, is quite useful for superior siege. Mystic Forge uses for the same… save your stuff and when that one pops up it’s a freebie. Salvaging is another freebie. Laurels are ridiculously easy to get in WvW, it’s just a matter of paying attention. Maybe you need to kill five yaks. Well, go kill five yaks. Fix a wall, Make bad guys go dead. Mine some mithril and chop some wood. Make superior ACs. Piece of cake.
Oh god..
A wvw item obtained with dailies means that you need to farm every day. Yes farm. Becouse even if you need 1 minute per daily oblige to do that thing mean force to farm every single day for a kitten gear. And again im not in wvw maps for kill npcs.
Ty for the lesson but i dont need it
Oh right, getting badges off players isn’t farming right? I hate to break it to you but doing FotM is a lot harder than zerging around collecting badges.
On another note, SOME people have thousands of badges saved up. Great good for you guys, MANY people dont have any. Its like you guys dont want the WvW populations to be high enough to make good fights, you would rather run around pretending to be elite with your zerg trains. Most of you with thousands of badges probably moved to the highly populated servers as well. Remember that there are NEW players picking this game up all the time.
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I like how people are at the same time complaining that they want to be able to get ascended items from ONLY WvW and now that you can they say its to expensive and they can just PvE fractals for them. Really guys?? Also its like you all missed the part where the rank chests drop ascended rings.
They made it much easier to get laurels in WvW now with 3 parts of the daily being WvW oriented AND you can easily gather and get the remaining daily in WvW maps now.
1-2 hrs per night and I have never seen a crate drop.
I feel you there man, been doing the zerg thing on Southsun for a solid number of hours now and have yet to find a single chest.
Im glad as well. Its a chance for them to renew the zone, to polish it. It really needs a meta event or 2, and some more dynamic events. Or a dungeon. Karka dungeon????
Unless the dungeon is soloable, no. I’m sick of being forced to party to complete content.
Does it really take that much energy to type in map chat “LFG” or “LFxM dungeon” or just typing into the party invitation pane “character name” and clicking join to a person looking for more? Or is it because you just don’t like playing with other people, because if that’s the case it baffles me that you’re playing an MMO like GW2, where the entire world is based upon cooperation.
GW2 appealed to me because it allowed you to do group content without forming a party. I have no desire to beg 4 other people to run me through a dungeon because I am too weak to complete it on my own. I never had to party to complete dungeons in GW1. Why should I be forced to in GW2?
Every post I see has you saying that you dont want others to have to CARRY you through a dungeon, are you really bad at the game and embarassed or something or do you have some kind of condition where you can only talk on forums and not in real time?
Karka themed ARMOR and not just the weps would be baller.
All this talk of skill in WvW is what is most amusing about this thread. Anything to break up the constant zerging is OK in my book, I am going to drive home and chuckle about “skill” in WvW.
I collected all 6 yesterday. Ask around on map chat and people will tell you where they are currently.