You are aware that what you call a ‘duelling area’ is just another part of the WvW map for anyone else? I would be very suprised if any of those upleveled players even knew what was going on there. The majority of any MMO I’ve played does not use the forums. The duelists are an even smaller subset of those that do use the forums.
IIRC Anet is implementing arena’s. This, I imagine, to facilitate dueling. would you guys go there, or stay in WvW? Merely being curious.
Ya, right, because there are so many objectives behind the windmill that might erroneously lead people there. There’s one reason people go back there.
And would people go to arenas instead of wvw? Probably not. It’s already possible to duel in spvp, although not as easily as it will be after custom arenas. However, custom arenas are going to have to be purchased, you are going to be limited to spvp aesthetics based on rank, and limited to the amulet system and no food. Spvp and wvw are just not the same thing.
Most of your server does though that is why there are so many people there now. In tier 4 there is plenty of room for diversionary games, but up higher, every man is going to be needed. Transferring back down might be the honorable thing to do.
While I doubt the few of us could make a difference, if we do have that much of an impact, then I hope we make the server lose so that the transfers leave and we can stay where we are.
At duels, about 20 Mags, one person from YB, and two from IOJ.
Edit: And once again, YB rolls duels with a zerg. You guys may think I’m being unfair and overgeneralizing, but there’s a reason I say the things I do about your server.
I should clarify. The YB zerg rolled into the duels. They got rolled out.
Since there are people here who say 100b isn’t the only viable build, can you give a good example (with a bit of detail) of other viable builds? I want to try my warrior for tpvp, but I hate the greatsword and would prefer not to use it. I love the hammer and I think something like hammer/dual axe or hammer/sword/shield with a balanced build would be my ideal in terms of fun, but is it actually viable, or should I just suck it up and run 100b?
Thief burst really does need to be significantly reduced. I’d be fine with an increase to their sustained damage to compensate, but there’s just no reason to have a class able to virtually insta kill almost everything in the game. Very high dps is fine, instantly killing people with literally just a few buttons isn’t.
It’s not even a matter of balance, it’s a matter of fun. You thieves can try to say it’s just bad players who get frustrated by it, but that’s not true. It doesn’t matter how good you are and how aware you are of your surrounding, sometimes you’re just going to fall over dead because a thief walked around a corner and comboed before you ever saw them. No chance for counter play, no skill checks, just you laying on the ground dead because someone, not necessarily even a skill player, pressed a few buttons and you died before you could do anything about it.
Fight club below south camp on Yaks BL. Lots of Mag and only the one IoJ ranger for a while now.
This is always how duels go. Tons of people from Maguuma and very few from the other servers. Gets boring.
There were several of us Yaks dueling OG and a few other Mags a couple of hours ago. We were on IoJ BL. Your guildies seem pretty cool.
When the WvW is a dud, try dueling is an alternative. You get to meet some new ppl, talk builds and tactics, and hone your skills…
I’ve done a lot of duels but it almost always ends up being 2-3x as many Mags and a lot of standing around. But if there’s decent participation from ioj and YB this week, I’ll try to make it to the next duels.
I did a tournament with the guild for the first time yesterday, and while the first round was easy, we were soundly beaten in the second. I already know why (everyone in the guild has a high level of individual skill, but almost no experience working as a team, and no tournament experience at all), but I’d like to be able to put the loss in perspective. Were they just a random guild and we are that low on the tpvp totem pole? Or were they a good guild that we are just not ready to face yet. I tried looking up some of their names in the qualifier point list, and found one that is similar, but that’s account name vs. char name so hard to tell.
Is there any way to just look up the team that beat us? I don’t think there is, but I’d like to be able to see where we stand now and in the future to judge how good we are and how we are progressing as we play more.
Giving this a bump as I just had to log off because I’m getting the bug where rtl/magnetic grasp shoot me way past the target every time again. Impossible to play like this.
I really just don’t understand why anet is doing absolutely nothing to fix the bugs. How many years is it going to take before they care enough about their game to fix gamebreaking bugs.
This game just isn’t very interesting to watch. I’ve really tried, but there’s just nothing there. The effects are so flashy that it’s hard to see what’s going on and if you don’t know the game extremely well it’s impossible to have any understanding of whats important, most streamers can’t stream at high quality (presumably because of the system reqs), and it lacks virtually all of the intensity of other esports because a single death doesn’t have anywhere near as much weight as other games.
GW2 tpvp is equivalent to League of Legends Dominion, and how many people do you see watching that?
P.S. I know I’m a hypocrite for posting this but why do people even post in these threads? You are a nameless, faceless enemy. No one from the other 2 servers knows who you are.
That’s really not true. Because we can’t see names in game, posting on the forums is how people get to know who is who. It’s not perfect without names, but you can still see guild tags, and that’s often enough.
Two weeks away and I forgot how much I hated Yak’s Bend. The numbers might not be there anymore, but the mentality hasn’t changed a bit. Still the most unpleasant zerg server I’ve ever had the misfortune of being matched against.
So far this matchup is not looking promising at all. It actually started with some really good fights vs an IoJ guild, but talked to their leader and he said they’re the only good roaming guild left on the server and they’re planning on transferring to FA. So ya. Yak’s seems to have completely disappeared, not sure what happened to them. Keeping my fingers crossed things pick up at some point.
I don’t know about reinstalling, but mumble really is a piece of crap. I’ve had more problems using it the handful of times I have in gw2 than in the entire time I used vent over all the years I played daoc.
How do I play? Fractions of a second at a time I guess. Pvp situations change far too quickly for spell queuing to be anything but detrimental. It’s especially annoying because for whatever reason, they made it so that if you get disabled, instead of cancelling the queue, it just waits until you get back up. Meaning you’re stuck with a command you inputted 1-2 seconds ago, which is unacceptable. I don’t want any kind of options, I just want to turn it off.
It doesn’t actually it makes me see whats been wrong with gamers since wow and cod came out. Put up a video thats not meant to show us destroying people, but good fights and some egos get hurt because a new generation of gamers can’t handle it. It changed from:
kitten that was a good fight and you totally got us at this part"
to
“You guys are bad! You didn’t beat us! If you don’t duel us obviously we are better”
Been hearing that since ’05 =/
Those are some pretty pink glasses you’re wearing. I’ve been playing online games since long before WoW came out, and it was NEVER like that.
I never said you were a bad guild. I actually think OG has a lot of good players. See, here is your problem: you care too much about whether people think you are good or not.
You expect to make posts about how you destroy everyone you run across (when that is not the case) and proclaim yourselves to be the best roaming WvW guild without catching some flak? Seriously?
I doubt anyone in the guild really cares. It’s just a bit of trash talk to make this god awful matchup a little less terrible.
But, you don’t hear us making a big deal out of other people running “FOTM” classes because of that. We do recognize that DDEs, Thieves, and Mesmers are by far the best 1v1 dueling classes in the game, however. We aren’t going to hypocritically call others out for running FOTM builds when people in our guild run some of those builds themselves.
Necros and Guardians aren’t underpowered for group PvP. In fact, they are quite good.
Actually, I’m pretty sure some of your guildies are doing just that. And ya, that was kind of my point regarding necs and guards. Eles, thieves, and mesmers may get the attention, but it’s not like you guys are running weak characters either. I have yet to see you run a group of 10 rangers or anything like that. I’m not even sure if I’ve seen any rangers or engis in your guild. Maybe a ranger.
You know why there are so many d/d eles and thieves in OG? Because it’s a guild of roamers. It’s not because everyone plays fotm classes. The thieves in the guild have run with every build out there, and most of the eles don’t run the standard d/d setup. If balance shifts and these classes are no longer considered top tier, we’ll still be playing them because they’re the only two classes in the game that have enough mobility to effectively roam.
Although, it’s not like AD doesn’t run thieves, eles, and mesmers as well. Killed enough of those last night. The fact that you run some unfortunately hugely underpowered classes like necros and guardians doesn’t exactly put you on a high horse when it comes to class picks.
Sorry, this was a rage post after a night of my stun breakers being completely broken. I get so tired of using a ‘stun break’ and then having to sit there for the entire duration of the stun anyway. Armor of Earth and Lightning Flash are both completely broken as kitten and rarely break stun. AoE just doesn’t work at all most of the time, and LF teleports you but just makes you sit out the stun in your new location. Frustrating as hell.
On the face of it this proposed change is just utterly ridiculous especially for specs like staff eles that are nothing but aoe. Like the poster above me stated the effect on WvW will just be greater zerging, as it is the restriction of damage to only 5 people leads to more zerging this will just make it worst.
Anet if this is a change for sPVP please do it for sPVP only and I’d want to see iron clad justifications for making the change in PvE and WvW.
This isn’t true, and you know it. When my group kills 35-55 players, because we’re made up primarily of Area Effect builds, all wrapped up in a single group of five, there is an issue. We usually run Elementalist, Elementalist, Necromancer, Confusion Mesmer, and me Thief (my primary roll is to finish people off, and make sure they’re not rezzed), while adding Cluster Bomb damage. We slaughter countless groups much larger than us, thanks to the AE damage we can put out.
I will give you one thing though, if they lower the damage, they need to increase the number of targets hit.
How is that an issue? Why shouldn’t a smaller group have the tools to kill a larger group if they outplay them?
Nobody in AD claims to be the best at anything. Unlike some others in this teir.
BTW, the NoQQ elem who beat you used to be someone we fought against when they were on Kaineng. Their group was better than OG. A guild group we fought against from NSP called PAXA. Yup, better than OG. Envy from FC, better than OG.
Keep on building that self-perpetuated myth that Maguuma has the most skilled players in GW2 though. The rest of us will sit and laugh at you and recognize that all servers have skilled players on them.
Considering I’m not geared for 1v1 and never use my elite 1v1 either, even you guys in AD should be able to get a kill now on me now and then.
I’m still waiting to see those better guilds, though. I’ve never seen OG turn down a fight, even if they weren’t sure they’d win, unlike certain other guilds.
The funny thing about OG is that there’s no leader, no strategy, no coordination, no voice chat, and yet also no one in this tier or the next that can beat them in a straight up fight.
There was so much trash talk last week that I was really excited to get some challenging fights when I came back this week. But wow, what a disappointment.
LARP? Couple good players, but we beat them 5v5 and the general comment afterwards was ‘wait, did anyone take damage?’ Bsty? Lol. First day back and 2v4’ed them easy. I’ll hand it to that thief in white/black though, he’s kitten good at running away from a fight. NoQQ? Well their ele is good, can’t say much for the rest of them. AD? Hard to find AD unless they outnumber you 2:1, but when ya do, it’s not much of a fight. That poor little Asura thief probably needs stitches by now.
The competition just really didn’t live up to the expectations I had from last weeks thread.
Sorry, but what is wrong with commanders giving orders? Isn’t that the entire point of them being a commander? I never follow commanders, but that just seems like a rather silly thing to complain about.
Earlier tonight, I had a thief down me, got rallied, and then almost downed again, and at no point during this was he visible on my screen. It really is ridiculous.
This is probably one of those ‘well uh we don’t want poor casual players getting intimidated by big bad pvpers, so we figured it would be safer for them if you couldn’t show off your rank’ things.
Unfortunately, elementalists are really lacking in stun breaks. The only util we have that’s a stun breaker is mist form. So I was thinking, maybe anet could make it so lightning flash and armor of earth broke stun as well. I think that’d be a really positive change for the class.
Personally I’m at something like 44% crit chance before fury and 56% crit damage, but I run glassier than most.
And Thrash, I’m surprised you are running the 10 arcane. I tried it for a night, but found the attunement gcd was tripping me up too hard and I couldn’t do a smooth transition for combos. You don’t have any trouble with that?
I know a lot of people love evasive arcana, but I’ve been running 0/20/0/30/20 for a while and I really think it’s better. EA is, imo, better on paper than in reality. I think you get more benefit from dodging dangerous attacks than you do from the EA procs. Add in the fact that you lose the 2% damage/boon which is, imo, unacceptable, and I think it’s far better to drop 10 arcana.
Just since there’s some mention of food, I switched to Lemongrass Poultry Soup a while back and now I will never use another food again. If you’ve never tried it, I highly suggest you do. Immobilize is pretty much the #1 thing that kills eles, and -40% duration to immobs (as well as all other conditions)? Yes please.
The sad fact is, most wvwers are lost little pve’ers who would like nothing more than to be able to kill their mindless ai and still get points for wvw.
I just hope that if anet decides to destroy competitive wvw, they at least get their spvp fixed first.
While I think your sentiment is a bit off, I do agree that kills should be very important for progressing in whatever new system they add. If they make it so zerging is by far the best, or even the only way to progress, that’ll be a real shame.
That same Colin Johanson release also included this bit on sPvP:
“For those more interested in competitive PvP, we’ll be adding the core features required to truly make Guild Wars 2 shine as a competitive game—things like being able to watch other competitors and see major ranked matches to learn how to play better, the ability to host your own custom arenas to setup your own rules and host your own team practices, and visible places for everyone to see rankings of the best teams/players in the world. We also want to make it easier to play games against good opponents, and give the ability to compete in games where ranking matters quickly and easily. Of course, this also means down the road we’ll have major tournaments, prizes, and more to help drive the growth of this competitive PvP community along-side our less hardcore PvP players.”
So maybe there is hope that all the folks looking for duels and fight club activity will find it there instead of in WvW. I don’t expect that will dramatically affect WvW itself, but it would be a huge improvement for these forums to have the associated smack talk moved elsewhere.
Except for the whole thing where most of the people doing duels are in wvw because they like roaming. And you zergers smack talk each other every bit as much as any of the roamers do.
Had a bit of fun tonight at the duels. It was kind of grim at first, but the LARP guardian gave me a couple really good fights, and the NoQQ ele downed me, and I’ve never been downed by another ele 1v1 before, so that was fun.
So uh, I run down to windmill and sit down while I finish some food, and instead of seeing some fights, I see you guys roll your own duels. I guess that’s how LARP does it.
You’re Sakae right?