When you see the OG guild tag, what is your normal response to this?
Just curious.
What I’ve seen usually you guys get chased back to your spawn by our teams then a few noobs who chase you all the way there get ganked 5-7 vs 2 or 3. Rinse repeat over and over.
I like how you used the word team.
“Definition: Team: A group of players forming one side in a competitive game or sport.”
Yeah. Yeah, I think he used the word “team” in the right meaning.
I didn’t say it was incorrect. I like it because it’s so deliciously ambiguous.
I always find it funny when people say ‘go play spvp’ whenever anyone mentions skill on the wvw forum. It’s funny because as soon as someone says it, it tells me they’ve never actually done spvp, or they tried it and were horrible, and it gave them this impression of it being some super highly competitive environment.
Water combat is horrible and forces you into one weapon set. I’m a d/d ele, I want to be highly mobile and move in and out of combat. What do I do underwater? Sit back and spam spells like I’m using a staff.
I honestly just give up kills if they go in the water because it’s so kitten bad that I would prefer losing the kill than dealing with the water combat.
When you see the OG guild tag, what is your normal response to this?
Just curious.
What I’ve seen usually you guys get chased back to your spawn by our teams then a few noobs who chase you all the way there get ganked 5-7 vs 2 or 3. Rinse repeat over and over.
Whenever I read these threads, it makes me think that people need to remember that everyone posting here is just an individual. None of us have the authority to speak for the rest of the server, not even the commanders. Any opinions expressed belong solely to the ones who expressed them. Maybe others feel the same way, maybe they don’t.
Form your opinions based on what you see in game, not what you read from literally 1/1000th, if that, of a server’s population.
It’s not a terrible idea, but the real problem is that it’s not actually roaming, open pvp. It’s just duels. Duels can be entertaining, and it can be a good challenge, but it completely removes the strategic side of roaming pvp, which is a large part of why I so greatly prefer it over arena style pvp. What makes roaming exciting is never knowing who, what, or where you are going to fight and reacting appropriately to whatever comes up. Duels is just seeing who has better mechanics.
That said, duels can be entertaining, but there really isn’t any way to set this up as a long term thing. South of hero’s lodge is already a pretty well agreed upon dueling spot, but there are so few roamers that no one is ever there unless they agree on meeting up. Best thing to do is just take note of players that impress you when you fight them and /invite them.
I play glass cannon and like seeing big numbers I theory craft extensively, and I’m extremely competitive. TimmyxJohnnyxSpike. Good thing I live in California and people are pretty accepting of that kind of thing.
I main a d/d ele, but the way I play and build, it really isn’t ideal for large scale fighting. My guild runs 5-10 and fights any zerg we can find, and my increasingly glass cannon nature is becoming impractical for that kind of combat, so I’ve been looking for something else to run. I’ve always mained support in past games so I was trying something along those lines, but I’m just not seeing the appeal of direct support. When I run staff on my ele, all I want to do is cc, but it’s all on long cooldowns.
So, can a necro play a kind of control tank with a bit of damage? This is just theorycrafting based on no actual experience, but I was thinking of something like Scepter/Focus with staff on switch, plague signet, epidemic, maybe signet of undeath, and plague for elite. Gear would be tankiness/con damage. Idea would be to basically just run around slowing as much as possible and peeling while also putting out a bit of damage.
Does this sound like a viable idea? It’d be 100% wvw combat.
… I’ll dive into the middle of a Yak’s zerg of almost any size without fear…
Didn’t say I’d kill a zerg by myself. When I run with the guild, we basically just bust zergs repeatedly. Vs DB, I had to be careful to choose how I initiated. Vs Yaks, I just go nuts because they aren’t going to kill me anyway.
I wouldn’t rule anything out, but I don’t think there’s a correlation there. Sometimes we eles just think we have someone targeted and actually don’t, and sometimes we think we don’t and actually do. Not that that’s the explanation for this as it’s happening to magnetic grasp moreso which only works at all if you hit something.
So very, very glad to have EB back again. I was getting pretty frustrated trying to fight the 20+ yaks camping maguuma spawn, but fighting you guys in GH/INC made up for it.
When using these skills on my ele, instead of traveling to my target and stopping, I continue moving for another ~450 units past my target. This was not happening when I logged off last night.
I tried them out on my ori run in karka country, on the small ones, they both functioned fine, on the scary veterans, magnetic grasp still made me stand around like a lemon on a rock for a bit, and rtl made me go towards them, and when I got there, again I was stood about like a sloth on segway!
Maybe it’s only happening in wvw or something like that.
When I logged last night, our mobility skills were working just fine. I log for a bit this morning, and I’m getting sling shotted all over the place any time I use RTL or magnetic grasp. Just ridiculous. The skills were already buggy as hell, and now they’re borderline unusable. Afaik there wasn’t any patch overnight, so why exactly are my skills broken now?
I’m looking forward to having EB back, but losing DB kind of sucks. I haven’t found any roamers from DB, but at least their zergers put up a fight. I’ll dive into the middle of a Yak’s zerg of almost any size without fear, but I check for a few tags before I go into a group of DB.
Emhry Bay without a doubt. They’re the only other server I’ve seen that has a decent roaming population. This matchup has been so much less enjoyable without being able to count on the EB guys for good fights.
For a while there when D/D was a really hot topic on the forums, kitten near every ele I saw in game was D/D. They were just everywhere. Lately though, it seems like I’m seeing fewer and fewer of them. I still see them, it’s not like they’ve disappeared completely, but from what I’ve seen, staff especially and even S/D are taking over again.
I’m not trying to draw any conclusions, imply anything about balance, give a justification, or anything else like that. I’m just curious if others have noticed this trend as well.
I find this thread very odd. Why is it here on these forums? Why are you presenting a simple request as some big official ultimatum? Why didn’t you just try to talk to them in game? Why is it even that big of a deal?
The whole thing just smacks of baseless self importance.
Id have to disagree greatly. The most frustrating thing for players in pvp mmos is the ol’ “Losing control of the character” something that the d/d ele does tons more of compared to the two professions you implied (thief and mesmer)
its not even a standard cc but one that is more frustrating, a knockback. Not only do you lose the ability to act, but you lose positioning and the duration is quite long. And the ele has several.
i guess its all just a matter of opinion. but for me the knockbacks are plenty more frustrating then a stealth and clones which leave you still well in control of how you go about a fight
Stability and stun breaks can be used to counter cc. There’s no ability that lets you counter the things that people find frustrating about mesmer and thief. You say I’m biased, but there’s plenty of proof in the fact that these forums are filled with complaints, yet extremely few are about d/d eles, despite them being on par with thieves and mesmers in terms of balance. Eles just aren’t anywhere near as frustrating as those classes.
Yeah d/d eles are quite overpowered, but people still complain about thieves
I was about to post a thread asking about this… people are always kittening about thieves but what about these ele’s I keep running into?
I admit I am no pro but still, these d/d ele’s seem tanky like guardians but put out a ton of damage – not quite as bursty as a backstab theif combo or a fully eaten 100b but still pretty bad coupled with a lot of cc.
Why do I not hear anybody kittening about this? I would see one argument possibly being that elementalists are a lot harder to play – I am not stating this as a fact but looking at the fact that you have to juggle weapon skills across 4 attunements I imagine this is a much higher skill cap.
Thief burst is deadly when it hits every 30-40s whatever it is – but outside of that they get shredded like a paper bag if they can’t get away.
What you are starting to see is the difference between balance and fun. D/D ele is strong, one of the strongest in the game, but very few people complain about them. They never stealth, they don’t have confusing clones, their mobility is mostly dashes rather than teleports, their damage is strong but not particularly bursty. Fighting a d/d ele is fun, not frustrating. Even if they are overpowered (and personally I think it’s more that certain classes are underpowered), people don’t get completely kitten off when they die to one.
Zerging will always be the preferred way of play in open combat, and zergers will always make up the majority of the playerbase. Instead of making the game worse for zergers, you should be looking at ways that’d make things a little easier for smaller groups without hurting the biggest part of the playerbase in a significant way.
Personally I’d just like to know their infraction scale. So I get a point or two… what does that actually mean? Am I about to get banned, am I still fine, what?
Some meat stew foods give you increased endurance regeneration, and I was wondering, does that stack with vigor? As an ele I have pretty reliable vigor, so if they don’t stack it’s fairly useless to me.
If you want to roam at maximum potential, roll a thief or a d/d ele. None of the other classes come close to total (solo) roaming potential just because of the sheer mobility and potential to choose your fights.
If you don’t care about being as good as possible, then just play whatever looks fun to you.
Rebel Daughtre is ones comiited mother fer. If I were going to respect a commander, itd be him. The guy knows his business.
To all the guys and gals of DB and YB, I may poke fun at you now and then, and the mods may threaten to terminate my account now and then, but i love all of you.
These posts are always filled with so many imaginary numbers.
But ya, this is why my d/d ele runs a full suit of zerker’s armor. Ele’s don’t tank, we avoid damage. If we get focused, we die regardless of what we are wearing. So what is the point of giving up a huge amount of damage for survivability you won’t even use?
Better Question,
How much damage do you do when your dead.
I almost never die, so you’d have better luck asking someone else that question.
These posts are always filled with so many imaginary numbers.
But ya, this is why my d/d ele runs a full suit of zerker’s armor. Ele’s don’t tank, we avoid damage. If we get focused, we die regardless of what we are wearing. So what is the point of giving up a huge amount of damage for survivability you won’t even use?
Standard retort? I’m not sure anything you say actually means what you think it means. It’s like you learned how to communicate by copying random words and phrases you saw on the internet.
Do you guys know what ‘cookie cutter’ actually means? I keep seeing it get thrown around as some kind of insult, and I’m not sure it means what you think it means.
Playing an ele and only using one attunement means you are only using 1/4 of your skills, and the class is balanced around you using all of them. That’s like playing another class and never weapon swapping and only using 1 and 2. Can it be done? Well ya, I’m sure it could, but should it? There’s no point rolling a class knowing you are going to be playing it nowhere near its full potential. Try playing something like a necro for a fairly straight forward mage.
I have unfortunately found myself helping the realm lately. Sometimes you have to do things you don’t like to find people to kill. I’m balancing it out now by solo roaming and ignoring dolyaks, camps, and sentries, except to draw action.
So far, Yak’s is still being Yak’s. Same behavior as the last two weeks. Pretty much zero roamers, and if I find one, and win but let them live, they come back with multiples to try to kill me. Haven’t seen much from DB. Not sure if they just only roam in numbers high enough that I tend to avoid them, or if I’ve just missed their active hours. Seems like it’s a very polar server.
Thieves really are completely kitten I have no idea why Anet hasn’t done anything to fix them. It isn’t even about balance, it’s about them being the most frustrating and angering class in the game by far. I’m so kittening sick of thieves.
