Guild Wars 2

kash.9213:

fellyn.5083:

Cover Girl.2580:

its easy to review each case before pulling the trigger.. the while shoot first figure it out later attitude is fail. so fail.

Actually it’s probably easier to ban first and ask questions later. Only people who are legit will question it.

At least, I’m sure that’s anets theory. In reality we know a lot of kitten they put in this game since launch has been completely untested.

The problem there is, they automatically perma ban your account and they don’t respond to emails, so the only hope to settle the matter, as my friend who was in the wrong place at the wrong time in open pve has to hope for, is calling customer service. You can teleport with 3rd party programs like entire guilds are server hopping to do and you can buy and sell gold, but you can’t send your friends a little funds or hook up with random people in open world and start shooting at what they’re shooting.

Well it sucks that they won’t respond to emails of those banned by accident in cases like this. But anet probably think it’s margin of error is small enough that the few legitimate people they ban won’t make that much of a difference and are worth the cost of all the bots they’ll ban.

But as I was saying… in reality what they intend and how things actually work out have been completely different in the last 4 months with little to no testing of updates and things like that that have been added to the game stealthily. If 9 different legit players have been banned because of that in the last week or so that’s really pretty bad.

Aberrant.6749:

So now people are offended by blanks? Simply amazing and utterly redicilous. It’s perfectly fine for bleeping to be used instead of profanity on public tv. Do you choose to watch shows with bleeping and then write in to the TV networks? No, because that’s just silly.

It’s the same thing when you report some one for using the filter. If you choose the watch the tv show uncencored after a warning… is it then logical to complain about the non-bleeped dialogue? No. Again… that’s just silly.

Not to mention you’re playing a game where you are killing things. So you’re fine with the constant virtual genocide of people… but bad words. That’s just too far. GG.

Another funny thing (not ha ha funny, but wat funny) is that I can type in blanks and not need to worry about being banned. But if I curse and the game filters it I can… because of something some one else chose to do with their game which obviously causes the game to show profanity. So frak logic

Oh yea… I can also use nonsence words like frak, frell, shazbot, gorram, etc. and not need to worry about banned. Those are not profanity and not caught by the in game filter so… you’re seeing those words and can’t do a thing about it. Is that what you all want? Or would you prefer to encourage others to just use their filter and see nothing when people to use actual profanity.

+1 to my geek brothers who got the references :P

The word backwards offends me. It forces me to picture an ugly, hairy monkey. Please treat me as you want to be treated and do not use this combination of letters ever again. Thanks.

(If you missed the point of that it was to illustrate that offense is taken and not given. You can choose to be offended by anything. If you want censorship for things you are offended by but not everything everyone is offended by… which is everything… then that’s blatant hypocrisy.)

Except for you agreed to a set of rules when you first signed into the game. Why do people keep over looking this simple fact? If you didn’t read those rules or feel they don’t apply to you that is no ones problem but your own.

The profanity filter isn’t there because you can say whatever you want. It’s there because anet cannot control what people say or do. They can only react after the fact.

I get what you’re saying and I agree with it. I have the swear filter off and swearing doesn’t bother me. But that doesn’t matter because I don’t enforce the rules of the game and neither do you.

Frak (I hate that word, tbh) – is from Battlestar Galatica
Gorram – firefly

These aren’t technically real words? As in they exist in no english dictionary that I can find. Purely made up for their respective tv shows.

Le Pecheur.2074:

fellyn.5083:

Le Pecheur.2074:

fellyn.5083:

Le Pecheur.2074:

There are rules against harassment in game that you can report people for…

But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up. There is a block function in the game, and you know, you can just not associate with the kitten any more.

So you’re telling some one who is getting insulted that they need to grow up instead of the person who is doing the insulting. Wouldn’t the person who needs to do the most growing be the person who feels the need to insult people over a video game?

I guess I must have a backwards way of looking at things.

When did I say that? Now you’re just putting words in my mouth.

You said, and I quote"

“But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up.”

You said it pretty clearly right there. If that’s not what you meant then you need to explain yourself better.

Read what you replied with and tell me where you started inferring things that weren’t there. I’m sure you can find it.

We can break your post down further, if that’s what you desire.

You said:

“if some one insults you”

Meaning the person being insulted, the target, “you”.

And:

“and you report them”

Meaning the person being insult reports the person who insulted them. Once again, the target, “you”.

Finally:

“grow up”

Meaning the person who just got insulted needs to grow up.

So tell me where I mistranslated your post. Because to me it looks like you’re telling people who are in the receiving end of insults that they need to grow up.

Le Pecheur.2074:

Rainu.6871:

Le Pecheur.2074:

fellyn.5083:

Le Pecheur.2074:

There are rules against harassment in game that you can report people for…

But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up. There is a block function in the game, and you know, you can just not associate with the kitten any more.

So you’re telling some one who is getting insulted that they need to grow up instead of the person who is doing the insulting. Wouldn’t the person who needs to do the most growing be the person who feels the need to insult people over a video game?

I guess I must have a backwards way of looking at things.

When did I say that? Now you’re just putting words in my mouth.

I’d say it was when you said “But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up”.

Great. That doesn’t imply anything about the person doing the insulting not needing to grow up or anything beyond that.

Making such huge extrapolations about my position… wait, no, this kind of logic is pretty common on game forums…

Well then explain yourself better. Because to most people you basically said that if you get insulted by some one you should just deal with it and the person who did the insulting did no wrong. You made it seem like the person who is getting (in your scenario) insulted is somehow in the wrong. Since you specifically only mention the person who is on the receiving end of the insults we have nothing else to go on.

Le Pecheur.2074:

fellyn.5083:

Le Pecheur.2074:

There are rules against harassment in game that you can report people for…

But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up. There is a block function in the game, and you know, you can just not associate with the kitten any more.

So you’re telling some one who is getting insulted that they need to grow up instead of the person who is doing the insulting. Wouldn’t the person who needs to do the most growing be the person who feels the need to insult people over a video game?

I guess I must have a backwards way of looking at things.

When did I say that? Now you’re just putting words in my mouth.

You said, and I quote:

“But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up.”

You said it pretty clearly right there. If that’s not what you meant then you need to explain yourself better.

Leo Paul.1659:

It’s sad to see people impose their personal standards on others and feign superiority. Why do we have to expect everyone to conform to our beliefs? React to statements based on its context. No one is better just because he/she avoids using specific words.

I honestly don’t get it. You agreed to follow a set of rules when you first signed into the game and clicked that agree button. You alone are responsible for your actions and the consequences that follow them. I hate to get all real but this is a huge problem with society these days. People blame others when they do something stupid instead of looking no further than their own feet for the cause of their problems.

The only people imposing their standards on others is anet. Follow the rules you agreed to when you first played the game or don’t. But if you choose not to then don’t be surprised when you get punished. I’m not saying you will be punished for swearing but that you shouldn’t be surprised when you do.

People don’t need to tough up. People don’t need to deal with it. People don’t need to block others. The only ones who needs to deal with it are the people who are breaking the code of conduct they agreed to weather they read it or not.

It’s really not hard to understand. It has nothing to do with personal opinions or beliefs.

Cover Girl.2580:

its easy to review each case before pulling the trigger.. the while shoot first figure it out later attitude is fail. so fail.

Actually it’s probably easier to ban first and ask questions later. Only people who are legit will question it.

At least, I’m sure that’s anets theory. In reality we know a lot of kitten they put in this game since launch has been completely untested.

Esrever.8613:

fellyn.5083:

Le Pecheur.2074:

There are rules against harassment in game that you can report people for…

But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up. There is a block function in the game, and you know, you can just not associate with the kitten any more.

So you’re telling some one who is getting insulted that they need to grow up instead of the person who is doing the insulting. Wouldn’t the person who needs to do the most growing be the person who feels the need to insult people over a video game?

I guess I must have a backwards way of looking at things.

maybe they should both grow up. Or maybe it doesn’t matter. The person who feels they are cheated at the end is the one who probably can change their way of thinking.

If they can’t then maybe they don’t deserve the right to play the game and interact with people who don’t feel the need to insult others.

Why should the person who doesn’t think they have a right to insult others have to change their way of thinking? That is some seriously backwards logic.

Treat others as you want to be treated, and all that..

Le Pecheur.2074:

There are rules against harassment in game that you can report people for…

But if someone simply insults you and you report them, grow up. There is a block function in the game, and you know, you can just not associate with the kitten any more.

So you’re telling some one who is getting insulted that they need to grow up instead of the person who is doing the insulting. Wouldn’t the person who needs to do the most growing be the person who feels the need to insult people over a video game?

I guess I must have a backwards way of looking at things.

It’s not pay 2 win because pay 2 win implies you are buying an advantage. You in fact are not. You might have a point if ordinarily you could only equip rare armor and had to pay real money to get exotics.

Coupled with the fact that people come and go from the game all time it’s going to be an uneven playing field. People already have the best of the best in wvwvw. If anet didn’t want gear discrepancies in wvwvw they would have made it so you had to be level 80 to join it. Yes. stat on gear affect wvwvw, but so what? I’m not sure how this factors into p2w especially when people already have that gear.

At best all it does is save you some time. And if people want to spend money to save time then that is just fine with me, it has no affect in mine or even your game play, believe it or not. Fact is, you don’t know if the person that just killed you made the gear on their own by farming the mats or they paid real money to buy gems to sell so they could get it off the market. Again, all it’s done is save the person that paid money some time.

I listed 2 methods to get gear that in no way shape or form suffer from DR. One is solo and one relies on a group. Neither involves the tiniest bit of rng as well. And unless you are absolutely terrible they don’t require 4 hours a day, either.

As far as bags go (I thought you had dr issues so why do you need large bags…?) 15 slot bags will do just fine. They are roughly 60s. That aside, I have three 20 slot bags. One I got for free just for making my character, 1 I got for free from the lost shores event, and 1 I actually made myself. If you absolutely have to have 20 slot bags, you can run low level fractals and get 20 slot bags in a day or two of minor fractal grinding. For the absolutely best in slot bags I’d say that’s just fine considering how cheap 15 slots are.

You say you suffer from a “dr bug”. But are you sure you’re not getting the same drops as everyone else but just think they should be better for some reason? My drops have been relatively consistent since day 1 of the head start and I wouldn’t call them good at all. Unless you’re saying you get literally no drops at all..

And once again, none of that has to do with pay 2 win.

Not being able to join a group because you’re engineer has nothing to do with loot or dr. It has to do with anets kittenty balancing decisions.

@tigirius – (not quoting a long post)

Being affect by a bug so that you are not getting any drops is one thing but making the claim that it’s hard to get crafted gear in this game is just silly. And even if it is hard to get crafted gear you can run each path of a single dungeon and get 1 piece of exotic level gear on average (180 tokens for all 3 paths) a day. Depending on your group and then dungeon this will take anywhere from 45 minutes to two hours. You can of course get more than that a day but after clearing all 3 paths in a day it becomes less efficient.

But if it’s crafted gear we’re talking about that is what you just have to have. Farm orichalcum, sell it. 1.3g to 1.5g a day for 1 character, takes 45 minutes if you’re slow. Can be done in as little as 20-25 minutes if you know where the locations are. Do this 2 or 3 times and you can buy a piece of crafted armor from the market. Do it with more characters for even more profit.

Anyone who makes the claim it’s hard to get gear in gw2 has no idea what they are talking about. Unless your character is bugged somehow the above methods rely on no rng what so ever and involve very little actual grind. Unless you don’t like dungeons and see them as “grindy”, but that a personal issue.

And none of this has anything to do with pay 2 win.

Sprawl.3891:

lol fellyn so do you report people when you see kitten because you can fill in the blank with the appropriate swear word

I’m not 5, so yeah, it’s fairly easy to fill in the blanks. I will report people when they are being stupid and I feel they deserve it, but as far as cursing goes? It doesn’t bother me so much, I have the swear filter off.

What I do have a problem with is people who break the rules and then complain about being punished. We all agreed to the rules no matter how you feel about them, accept your punishment quietly and move on.

P.S. It says right in the report box that if you abuse the report function you will be punished. Anet doesn’t just go on what people report, they do in fact check chat logs. So once again if you are banned outright for cursing, you likely deserve it. No one who curses (even if they get reported) once every few hours is going to get banned for it. Suspended maybe, but not banned.

Hellkaiser.6025:

fellyn.5083:

Hellkaiser.6025:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

ITT: People who don’t know what pay to win means.

If Anet offered gear in the gem store that was more powerful than anything you could get in the game, that would be pay to win.

If Anet sold gear in the gem store that was incredibly powerful and the only way to get it in game was to grind for YEARS (literally) then that would be pay to win.

This game is not pay to win in any regards.

your definition of “how long is too long” is subjective. Don’t misunderstand, I begrudgingly agree with at least some of the things you defend despite not liking them and of all those that post in defense of A-Nets current directions and paradigms you at least put some thought into it, but ultimately while you can’t claim it’s “pay to win” it’s certainly pay to not be bored stiff and not progress anywhere or grinding horribly because you refuse to turn this game into “TP Tycoon: Tyria edition”

What does your post even mean? Wasabi Kitty is exactly correct. You cannot buy power through the gem store. At all.

For the game to meet the requirement of being “pay 2 win” anet would have to put the option to buy increased stats over those that ordinary players cannot get in the gem store.

As far as this is concerned there is nothing else to discuss. That is the complete definition of what “pay 2 win” means.

Now, how interesting you find the game or what direction anet is taking it in as far as it being a grindy game or gear progression is a completely different topic and has nothing to do with paying to gain power. Which is what your post seems to be talking about? I’m still not sure what you’re talking about.

TL;DR (you clearly didn’t anyways)

Just because it’s not pay to win, doesn’t mean that it’s not something that slowly irritates you til your only perceived recourse is to push cash into the cash shop. And that is what a lot of players are feeling, even though it’s subtle it’s the same feeling of being slowly given the temptation of lessening the torment of their badly designed goals. Sure pay to win is a cancerous thing, but pay to not feel like you’re grinding your genitalia on a cheese grater is certainly not much better.
It’s not just that it’s bad game design it’s just simply unnecessary. Or are you telling me that the highly unhealthy aspects of this games design in terms of drops markets and goals is all fine and dandy?

By all means if you can come up with some decent arguments to help sway the feelings instead of a “tough luck” approach, with some logical justification outside of “they gotta eat too” which isn’t easily defeated by examples from other games who are doing just fine financially without the terrible practices of random chance boxes in their CS, then sure your input does warrant being listened to.

You use the words “a lot”, but come on now, when you say that you really mean just you. Unless you’ve managed to ask every player who plays the game how they feel about being able to pay real money to level up and can show real hard facts and statistics that “a lot of people” feel that way?

I understand. You have to make your argument more dramatic by making such claims but lets be a little honest at least.

I could also make the claim that “a lot of players” don’t care and are fine with how it is. But who would be right? Me or you? Neither one of us has backed our claims up with proof.

Besides that what you’re talking about has literally nothing to do with pay 2 win and to be honest your post is pretty incoherent so I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

Rukia.4802:

Hellkaiser.6025:

The profanity filter is NOT an excuse to swear in a repeated and overdone manner which lowers the level of maturity of the ingame chat, swearing is awesome and I don’t want it banned it’s just part of life and whatnot but swearing REPEATEDLY and in an OVER THE TOP manner in an IN GAME CHAT is like being that irritatingly foul mouthed child with voice control issues that everyone wishes would just shut the heck up or be dealt with by their parent, you may as well be shouting at traffic if you overdo it because you just look insane.

I think you’re over reacting and with the filter on you won’t even see them swear.

So when the game displays —-- instead of f—- (use your imagination for the rest of the word) you don’t automatically know what that word is? The profanity filer doesn’t remove words or hide anything, it just censors it. So yes, you do still see them swear. when you see “——” in game your mind will automatically fill in the blanks.

All that is beside the point though. It doesn’t matter what any one persons opinion on it is. We all agreed to the code of conduct when we started playing the game otherwise you wouldn’t be playing it. You had to click the agree button which is the same as signing as contract.

Now, just like in life you don’t have to follow the rules if you don’t want to. But also just like in life if you don’t you’d better be prepared to accept the consequences. In this case anet made the rules, follow them or don’t.

I’d also like to point out that it’s actually pretty hard to get banned for swearing unless it’s completely over the top and gets reported by quite a few people. Anyone who has been out right banned for swearing likely deserves it. Most people will initially just get a suspension their first time and it tells you exactly why you were suspended from the game.

I would say that’s a good hint about what you need to change if you want to keep playing the game.

Anets official response on the matter:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Banned-for-Inappropriate-Language/first#post1091437

“Quoted because this sums it up nicely. If you want to see it in official parlance, click my name and search for the many other posts I have made explaining that the fact the game has a filter doesn’t mean that you can swear or use offensive names. I just posted about this five minutes ago, and have posted about this virtually every day since beta.”

Hellkaiser.6025:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

ITT: People who don’t know what pay to win means.

If Anet offered gear in the gem store that was more powerful than anything you could get in the game, that would be pay to win.

If Anet sold gear in the gem store that was incredibly powerful and the only way to get it in game was to grind for YEARS (literally) then that would be pay to win.

This game is not pay to win in any regards.

your definition of “how long is too long” is subjective. Don’t misunderstand, I begrudgingly agree with at least some of the things you defend despite not liking them and of all those that post in defense of A-Nets current directions and paradigms you at least put some thought into it, but ultimately while you can’t claim it’s “pay to win” it’s certainly pay to not be bored stiff and not progress anywhere or grinding horribly because you refuse to turn this game into “TP Tycoon: Tyria edition”

What does your post even mean? Wasabi Kitty is exactly correct. You cannot buy power through the gem store. At all.

For the game to meet the requirement of being “pay 2 win” anet would have to put the option to buy increased stats over those that ordinary players cannot get in the gem store.

As far as this is concerned there is nothing else to discuss. That is the complete definition of what “pay 2 win” means.

Now, how interesting you find the game or what direction anet is taking it in as far as it being a grindy game or gear progression is a completely different topic and has nothing to do with paying to gain power. Which is what your post seems to be talking about? I’m still not sure what you’re talking about.

Aberrant.6749:

fellyn.5083:

Aberrant.6749:

So if you turn off the profanity filter… and see profanity… knowing that you might be offended by the profanity… which you just purposefully exposed yourself to… shouldn’t you take some personal responsibility for that? o.O

Anyone who turns the filter off probably doesn’t care. The filter is there so people don’t have to see it if they don’t want to. It’s presence does not mean you get the green light from Anet to say whatever you want.

It’s there because anet can’t control what people say. Simple as that.

This sort of thing just leads to abuse by people who want to get some one banned. They’ll try to make some one mad hoping to provoke profanity and then report them for it. I’ve seen it done several times.

If this profanity is such a big deal to A-net then they should put in a filter which you can’t turn off. Many games have this. Then if you go around that filter on purpose you’ll get a warning or a ban.

Giving the people the ability to turn it off and then still report others for it and ban them for it is just silly and easily abused.

I’m not really getting your point. Ignore the presence of the swear filter for just a second. There is still a code of conduct you agreed to when you first started playing the game.

You break the code of conduct you get punished. Swear filter or not. Yeah it sucks that people are trolls and try to get people in trouble but anet can’t control what people do. All they can do is enforce the rules we all agreed to.

And I don’t think anyone has gotten outright banned just for dropping a random f-bomb in /m. The most I’ve heard of is people being suspended from the game for 3 days for that. When people are reported for swearing Anet checks chat logs. If some one gets banned outright they probably deserve it.

Aberrant.6749:

So if you turn off the profanity filter… and see profanity… knowing that you might be offended by the profanity… which you just purposefully exposed yourself to… shouldn’t you take some personal responsibility for that? o.O

Anyone who turns the filter off probably doesn’t care. The filter is there so people don’t have to see it if they don’t want to. It’s presence does not mean you get the green light from Anet to say whatever you want.

It’s there because anet can’t control what people say. Simple as that.

mavet.3047:

WickThePriest.9304:

kitten that.

As long as I’m not circumventing the language filter I shouldn’t need to censor myself. If you don’t like what I have to say put me on block.

I’m a grown kitten man and play games the way I kitten well please.

k i t t e n :-p

I agree. For a supposed “free” society, they seem to like to place the censor on a lot of things ppl do. I believe the Nazis were famous for that. I had family in the camps, so I know all about censorship and ppl who are given a wee bit of power, to compensate for other shortcomings…

Except for GW2 isn’t a “free” society. It’s owned and operated by Arena Net. Not the US or any other country so freedom of speech does not apply.

Narkosys.5173:

They already let you buy the BIS weapons legendaries from the TP. Just buy gems and ->gold.
They will always be bumped to best in slot with new tiers so that is a huge advantage. You can buy this at level 1 if you want.
Everything can be bought in this game already with real money.
All they need to do now is make it so legendaries in the gem shop have better stats and purchased with real money only. You deserve a bonus if you support Anet outside the box price and better stats is a nice way to do it.

And how does that make you stronger than some one who didn’t pay money?

The term “pay 2 win” refers to the fact that you pay money to become stronger by getting gear or stats than some one who doesn’t. Which you can’t do in GW2.

So thus, not pay 2 win.

X The Manimal.5293:

Narkosys.5173:

They already let you buy the BIS weapons legendaries from the TP. Just buy gems and ->gold.
They will always be bumped to best in slot with new tiers so that is a huge advantage. You can buy this at level 1 if you want.
Everything can be bought in this game already with real money.
All they need to do now is make it so legendaries in the gem shop have better stats and purchased with real money only. You deserve a bonus if you support Anet outside the box price and better stats is a nice way to do it.

That’s actually the best argument I’ve heard so far. Can you even use legendaries at early levels though? Do they scale with your level? They’re pretty pricey on the TP if you think about it. The gems to gold conversion is such a SMALL payoff too. Not sure I’ve met anyone on forums or online who literally shelled out cash from their own wallets to get a legendary from the TP. Help from a Guild is another story though.

No. Legendaries are level 80. And see my points above why it’s not an argument at all, actually.

The only thing some one who pays money to advance in GW2 is getting in return for that investment is some saved time. That’s it.

Profanity filter doesn’t give you the right to swear. It’s there so when people who think they don’t have to follow the rules they agreed to when they first logged into the game decide to swear they don’t have to see it.

You can swear if you want, no one is denying you that. Just be prepared to accept the consequences when you do, especially if it’s in a public channel. Pretty simple really.

Gohlar.3671:

fellyn.5083:

Gohlar.3671:

fellyn.5083:

cesmode.4257:

Uhm, you cant level to 80 in 4 hrs. Assuming youare talking about being bumped ip to 80 for wvw, this is practical as they want people on some what level playing field…and adhere to the “level the way you want”.

Buying gold via the game wont get you kto 80. Explain this please.

You can easily level to 80 in 3-4 hours by crafting.

That being said, Wasabi Kitty is correct. How other people level their characters has no affect on you so why worry about it? If people want to spend money to do that then I thank them for supporting Anet.

Hey, why not let people buy everything in the game? It doesn’t effect you right?

This is your logic.

Fine with me? It gives them no advantage what so ever and in fact probably puts them at a huge disadvantage because they won’t know how to play their character. Coupled with the fact they in fact can’t get more powerful by just paying money.. again, fine with me.

Besides that all the kitten they sell on the gem store I have more of sitting in my bank that I didn’t pay a single cent for. Thus making any argument you have for gw2 being p2w null and void.

P.S. In gw1 anet let people buy skill unlock packs. The horror.

So you don’t mind, that’s fine. Many do.

Comparing skill unlocks to the p2w features in gw2 comes off as a bit desperate. I don’tn think I really need to explain the difference. Now if you could buy all the armor sets in GW1 people would have a problem with that.

Many? You’ve managed to poll every person who plays the game and ask them how they feel about it then? You are speaking for “many” so I assume you have done this to know that for a fact.

Gohlar.3671:

fellyn.5083:

cesmode.4257:

Uhm, you cant level to 80 in 4 hrs. Assuming youare talking about being bumped ip to 80 for wvw, this is practical as they want people on some what level playing field…and adhere to the “level the way you want”.

Buying gold via the game wont get you kto 80. Explain this please.

You can easily level to 80 in 3-4 hours by crafting.

That being said, Wasabi Kitty is correct. How other people level their characters has no affect on you so why worry about it? If people want to spend money to do that then I thank them for supporting Anet.

Hey, why not let people buy everything in the game? It doesn’t effect you right?

This is your logic.

Fine with me? It gives them no advantage what so ever and in fact probably puts them at a huge disadvantage because they won’t know how to play their character. Coupled with the fact they in fact can’t get more powerful by just paying money.. again, fine with me.

Besides that all the kitten they sell on the gem store I have more of sitting in my bank that I didn’t pay a single cent for. Thus making any argument you have for gw2 being p2w null and void.

P.S. In gw1 anet let people buy skill unlock packs. The horror.

cesmode.4257:

Uhm, you cant level to 80 in 4 hrs. Assuming youare talking about being bumped ip to 80 for wvw, this is practical as they want people on some what level playing field…and adhere to the “level the way you want”.

Buying gold via the game wont get you kto 80. Explain this please.

You can easily level to 80 in 3-4 hours by crafting.

That being said, Wasabi Kitty is correct. How other people level their characters has no affect on you so why worry about it? If people want to spend money to do that then I thank them for supporting Anet.

Yeah, he’s a newbie warrior, leveling? He asked for a build that does a lot of damage? Learning to use utilities isn’t all that complicated. Besides that I get the impression that the OP isn’t new to the game so learning utilities isn’t going to be that big of a deal.

Your advice is sound and all but it doesn’t answer the questions that were asked.

He asked for a build that does a lot of damage while leveling. 5 signets is the best way to do that.

I rolled pure glass from level 1 onwards and didn’t have a single issue in any zone while leveling, this includes dungeon runs. A lot of veteran mobs you can easily face tank while leveling using 5 signets (outside of dungeons).

Further going defensive while leveling is just purposefully gimping yourself and makes killing anything take longer than it needs to.

Also while greatsword is good my personal weapon combo of choice these days is axe/mace with longbow.

Well, as far as back items go, in the last 2 or 3 updates they have added quite a few. The game is still young yet so we’ll of course see more and nicer looking options in the future.

Why do people expect so much from a game that’s been out for only 4 months? Taking the age of the game into consideration I think the options we had at start and we’ve been given since are just fine.

And just how old is Runescape exactly? And how many of those options did it have when it first launched?

Archer.1658:

fellyn.5083:

Archer.1658:

Besetment.9187:

Rethesis is classy and one of the big reasons we are rooting for Darkhaven in every match. Go go DH!

Think so? Because I just happened to find a spy from them on Ehmry Bay.

Ms Refurinn[RE] I believe. Now It’s possible he/she is finishing map completion, but at least have the respect to take off the guild tag in doing so.

No one from rethesis would endorse a spy if it were known. That being said, we haven’t gotten through the loss of DH’s wvwvw population unscathed. We have lost a lot of players to other servers as well.

Short of conspiracy theories there are a lot of reasons why some one with an RE tag might be on your server. Then again, conspiracy theories are fun???

Funny. I found another one of your members today in Eternal, Low level thief too. Argent Bandit i think it was.

Options:
1. You’re sending people over to spy
2. You’re recruiting in overflows
3. They came over to do JPs/World Completion

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was all three.

What reason could we possibly have for spying on you? The second 2 are far more likely than creating conspiracy theories.

Like I said before, there are a lot of reasons why people from our guild might be on your server. Spying is not one of them.

Archer.1658:

Besetment.9187:

Rethesis is classy and one of the big reasons we are rooting for Darkhaven in every match. Go go DH!

Think so? Because I just happened to find a spy from them on Ehmry Bay.

Ms Refurinn[RE] I believe. Now It’s possible he/she is finishing map completion, but at least have the respect to take off the guild tag in doing so.

No one from rethesis would endorse a spy if it were known. That being said, we haven’t gotten through the loss of DH’s wvwvw population unscathed. We have lost a lot of players to other servers as well.

Short of conspiracy theories there are a lot of reasons why some one with an RE tag might be on your server. Then again, conspiracy theories are fun???

Letifer.4360:

We wouldn’t need a Scavenger Hunt if they increased the chance to get a precursor from the Mystic Forge (10% chance would be good enough imo) or implement a fixed recipe.

While that is true I would rather have the hunt quest. It will be more fun than feeding a magic blender for an awesome weapon.

That being said, they could always do both, or all 3.

Predator.1398:

fellyn.5083:

I have nothing to base this on but it’s likely we’ll see the scavenger hunt in the January update.

I doubt that.

As I said I have nothing to base that on. But by January they will need to be addressing the issue again because prices for precursors continue to go up.

I paid 4g for my abyss dye. Happy day.

Really though, since anet nerfed the drop rate of dyes a month or so ago I’ve gotten maybe 10 unid’d dyes since then. I think that might be the source of the problem..

Ajea.4892:

No sir, you are wrong. If you want an easy class play a thief. You ruining the game by trying to make everything a cookie-cutter. Go play runescape if you want an easy warrior. And if mace is so much better then use it! Don’t whine about one weapon and then give praise to another. There’s many weapons under the skill tree, pick one that’s not “crap” and move on. Try a glasscannon rifle build you might like it.. But this is going off topic. Teg, personally I feel the hammer is fine, but if it doesn’t suit your taste due to the long CD’s and the hard CC’s then experiment with other weapons, we are a very versatile class.

Ajea.4892:

Found the time to reply. Your putting words in my mouth. I never said hammer was cookie cutter. Your saying this thread is a discussion, well we’re discussing. Please don’t discuss what I’ve posted unless you understand it fully. Also it seems as if people want the warrior to be a lone-wolf but that is against what A-net had in mind. Thus it not being an easy class to play UNLESS your with supportive roles.

This topic is about hammer skills, a normal person would extrapolate from your vague post that you meant we some how wanted hammer to become cookie cutter, whatever that even means as far as the discussion is concerned. Especially in the very next sentence you say not to whine about “one weapon” while again being completely vague about that as swell. It’s not praise to point out why a weapon is not good compared to another.

I think my reading is fine. It’s you that need’s to explain your point of view better without going on rants that have nothing to do with the topic that is being discussed.

Anyways, on topic. Hammer #5. Either lower it’s cool down or extend it’s range to be further than it is, like, by a lot. Making it deal aoe damage would be an option, too.

There is no reason why it needs to be inferior to mace #5 in every single way that matters. And before anyone says it does more damage, no, it doesn’t. Tremor hit’s a target more than once, not to mention the 1200 range or that it can hit more than 1 target.

I don’t have a problem with it’s cast time because you can “pre cast” it. Meaning you can activate the skill while out of range of your target and as long as you are within range when it hits that is fine. And obviously you can move while doing that as well, so the cast time isn’t that big of a deal to me.

Ajea.4892:

It seems no matter how I respond to this I will be infracted lmao. In any case. You praised weapons, I used sarcasm. I said cookie-cutter builds were easy, you say they’re bad. This is my last post only because this topic has derailed, I could care less about infractions.

You are failing to understand the point of the thread entirely. Good job on that. Even if all the skills on the hammer are fine (in your opinion) what is the harm in talking about ways to improve them? Just because something is good as it is now does not mean it can’t be improved upon.

I don’t get your reasoning at all. Hammer, even it was made better, is about as far from cookie cutter as you can get. If you want to talk about cookie cutter lets look at axe/axe or GS.

Predator.1398:

It’s just ridiculous… Dusk currently costs 535g:
http://cs410617.userapi.com/v410617093/3dc0/1U4KMmb_-lk.jpg

And still no updates from ANet. They just “working” on precursor scavenger hunt and “monitoring” the situation. I see.

I’ve done everything except Dusk for my Twilight. How many months/years should players wait till the real change in the situation?

P.S. Sure I can always buy it for GEMS. Just for ~$450, lol.
P.P.S. There are always a lot of ways to make soulbound or account bound precursors available for players for real ingame achievements. For example 250 tokens from each dungeon to craft two specific gifts, gift of <weapon type> mastery from special NPC (requires appropriate weapon master achievement) and any lvl 80 exotic <weapon type> with specific sigil. Combine it in MF and get you soulbound precursor. Problemo solved.

Just a reminder: precursor is only a part of legendary and shouldn’t be the main “pain in the *”.

When they said it was being worked on they said it would not be released in December.

I have nothing to base this on but it’s likely we’ll see the scavenger hunt in the January update.

Jinks.2057:

Anatolian Turk.4057:

The latest score captured few minutes ago.

good to see its close…..

I hate lopsided matches

I don’t know about you but I don’t think one server being ahead by almost 70k+ points 3 days after the match starts is close.

My problem with the skill is that it has literally no range. You have to be standing on top of your target to use it. And yes, as far as mobs go… they cheat. Mobs don’t follow the same rules that players are bound by in the game, which is kind of lame.

Let’s also bring into question the usefulness of hammer #4, which can be interrupted at the slightest breeze, but at least it has decent range. And then there is the self root while using it..

That’s been one of the main complaints about warriors since the betas. Damage mitigation, if it’s be armor or traits that give toughness does not do enough to mitigate damage.

On the other hand if they increase how affective toughness is that will also likely affect Guardians. I don’t think that’s something anyone wants.

I think the solution to our problems as a warrior is to revamp how adrenaline works for us and what it actually does. I don’t have good ideas on how to do that though and it’s not likely to happen any time soon anyways.

ZeroArmada.9426:

I will never understand why people would prefer to go full offensive without ANY vit/tough and constantly grief the team they’re in. I was just in AC with 3 glass cannon warriors, and wow that was the most horrendous experience I’ve ever encountered. I don’t see how glass cannon even helps the team if you’re constantly going down, even IF you put out burst damage before being flicked by the slightest enemy.

Just why?

It’s interesting that you question the players builds instead of their skill. I could sleep my way through AC as a glass cannon spec and the only time I have a bit of trouble is the path with the necros and all their conditions.

Moral of the story – bad players are bad regardless of spec. It just happens to be that most bad players like to play glass cannon specs, most of the time because they don’t know any better and can’t be bothered to figure it out. So yeah, blame the player, not the spec. Also, get a premade group to run dungeons and you won’t have to worry about it as much.

I like the vs. Xmas part. Xmas is definitely gonna be a worthy opponent.

Liquid Swords.1740:

When a game expansion is realeased and the level cap is raised what are the plans with legendaries? Are they obsolete lvl 80 weapons or do they get thier stats bumped to lvl 90 or whatever the new expansion lvl will be?

They’ve already answered that. They said legendaries are meant to be best of the best and will be upgraded whenever something new comes out. For example when ascended weapons are finally released Legendaries will be upgraded to ascended stats.

Zepour.4965:

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

The default respawn rate is 95-120 seconds …

I’m sorry to say, but: no way that respawn rate of normal mobs is 95-120 seconds at the moment. Typical respawn rate is MUCH higher. Often, they respawn as you kill them. This happens all over Tyria, from level four elementals in Norn starting area to level 80 bears in Frostgorge Sound. It doesn’t matter if you’re alone or with other players nearby. Sometimes, you can’t even type in guil chat before being jumped by a respawn. It’s just crazy.

I’ve reported many locations with extremely high respawn rates. I don’t bother anymore since nothing has been changed.

I wonder what’s intended respawn rate mobs in Orr.

Edit: I think respawn rate is set to 0-120 seconds. It’s possible that some mobs respawn in two minutes, but typically they respawn much faster.

Edit #2: thank you to communicate with us mr. Vaughn, much appreciated.

I agree completely with this. Maybe they have a decimal point in the wrong place? Because mobs in pretty much every area respawn way more quickly than 95 seconds.

The talk in RE is that if we move it won’t be until January. At least that’s what Ethersin was saying 2 days ago.

I’m being told by fellow guild members that GoF has left DH now. If that’s true then that means RE is pretty much the only big guild left on DH. Not certain if that’s true though as they’ve always said they’d be on DH forever.

Anet has made a lot of mistakes with GW2 and most are forgivable but letting free transfers continue has to be their biggest. They’ve basically sanctioned the death of servers and the communities people have tried to build on them by keeping transfers free.

Arcadio.6875:

Littlefeather.8623:

And on a very important side not, RE has not decided whether to move or not, but at the very least we are on DH for the time being. I do know one thing though, if something does not change within DH WvW, the future will look very bleak, compared to out peak in T4.

Things have gotten so bad that even RE is considering moving?

I do hope you don’t blame the match with FA. We were a tier apart in terms of strength and the lack of a strong third server ensured FA would run away with all the points. It was fun fighting RE though. You guys put up a good fight regardless of the situation.

We don’t blame anyone but the fair weather players who abandoned ship when we lost just 1 match. It started a slowly building avalanche of players leaving the server.

Flyfunner.2093:

DH do you have nothing better to do? Jesus christ. Past 3 days I’ve had to skip getting my daily eb jp reward chests because there’s ALWAYS dh griefers just picking fights left and right.

Looks like everyone on DH is hostile.

Even in the other wvw maps there’s at least always 5 hostile dh players in the jp griefing. I think this is why they’re loosing, they spend their time griefing instead of helping their teams. And it’s not just low experienced players, it’s the hardcore players, people with full cultural and high end weapons.

Let’s get this straight. You’re mad that you’re getting pvp’d in a pvp area from people that have nothing better to do because it’s impossible for them to win.

Yeah….if you’re not wanting to get pvp’d don’t go into a pvp area.

Class identity. There’s no reason why every class needs to be able to wear every armor type.

So it would seem.

Quednau.7390:

C’mon DH! Whats wrong with all you commanders?! we’ll get a nice zerg going on (with golems everywhere) about to sweep the place, and then you spawn to a random waypoint? If you dont know how to lead then dont be a commander! and a little communication please! your making DH suffer. Its been like this a few nights in a row. this is getting bad.

And ^this^ isnt for every commander, we still have a few who are tactitian geniuses who help DH alot.. (skap, Kay the kappa, Oxicide, lxl Pheonix lxl)

And i want to shout out to Bp giving a challenge! battling you all has been fun.. you guys dont leave your keyboards! lol. Large numbers all day long.

If you got a problem with the way it’s being led then step up to the plate. Otherwise you don’t really have much room to complain.

Kolisch.4691:

fellyn.5083:

I’ll just post this again since people can’t seem to read:

The screen shot in the OP is over a month old and was taken before the bug that increased piercing/ricochet was fixed.

Hm how do you know it’s a month old when he said he took it last night. btw the target is still a low level newbie and he’s glorifying himself with crappy achievement.

Because it was posted in the warrior forums that long ago?

I’ll just post this again since people can’t seem to read:

The screen shot in the OP is over a month old and was taken before the bug that increased piercing/ricochet was fixed.

So a glass cannon warrior hits a low level character with little or no armor on and the result is surprising?

Yes, I can see why this might need to be balanced.

Besides that, the screen shot in the OP is over a month old and was taken before the bug that increased piercing/ricochet was fixed.