Guild Wars 2

Talyjta.9081:

EnemyCrusher.7324:

I used 5 or 6 storage panels too until I realized that some of the foods list something like “Chef (125)” at the bottom, indicating that they are not used as an ingredient.

I wasn’t counting those.

fellyn.5083:

You do realize that you don’t need to have the stuff in your actual inventory right? Discoveries draw directly from your collection bank and have for quite a while.

It’s around 100 Intermediates – those that cannot be stored in the collection bank. And according spending money – I would have done if it only had been possible. But it wasn’t, all my attemps ended with an error code. Thus, no gems for me.

You can buy gems with in game gold. If you’re worrying about 20 slot bags then you’re obviously doing well enough to be able to afford enough gems to buy a bag slot or 2. You can probably get enough gems for 3 or 4 bag slots for 10g and get yourself some 15 or 18 slot bags to fill them for not much more than that.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

fellyn.5083:

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

fellyn.5083:

Take it as an insult if you want. It wasn’t intended to be. But just look at the complaints in this thread that DB feels like they are being double teamed. It’s not intentional and it’s not by design.

My point was purely that we do our best to remove any trace of db off the map in prime time and because of that fact you guys complain about being double teamed. I said it before and the reason why that is is because we can’t compete with your night time population.

Again, take it as an insult or don’t. That’s up to you.

I can’t speak for NSP but I imagine that they disagree with how DB is staying competitive score wise (hint: it’s not because of your us prime time people)

You don’t have the numbers to compete with our night time population. We don’t have the numbers to compete with you during NA prime time. We stay competitive as a WHOLE server because NA and Oceanic fight hard to maintain what we have. Your comment was a straight up insult to our NA Prime Time, like we didn’t make any difference in the overall outcome, and now the back peddling with take it as an insult or don’t. That’s up to you SMH

It’s all in how you read it. If we were to read between the lines we could say that DB feels like we (DH and NSP) are only staying competitive because we “double team” you.

Besides that you aren’t taking into consideration the post in which I was replying to. It outright suggested that DB and NSP double team DH when all I was doing was suggesting a reason why NSP might prefer to attack you guys over us.

Maybe I could have worded my post a little better but I was getting annoyed by your people’s continual complaining that we are directly working with NSP to double team you guys.

I was looking for a previous post I made regarding the double team stuff but it appears it’s been edited or partially removed? Anyways, I really don’t care if we’re double teamed and certainly not gonna complain about it. In fact, I expect it to happen to ALL of us at some point or another. The comment about NSP and DB dbl teaming DH was a joke. Sorry I forgot how sarcasm doesn’t translate well in written form. If you really think about this matchup, DB and DH are pretty even. We just swap roles with NA and Oceanic presence. I’m actually happy DH and NSP are here because it’s made the past two weeks a fun and competitive match.

You don’t care. Yet a lot of people from DB keep on bringing it up. Jokes or otherwise. It’s been mentioned countless times over the last 2 weeks.

So obviously some of your guys think we are actually in some sort of alliance with NSP. Which is actually really amusing. Amusing that people actually think it, irritating they keep bringing it up.

If I had to put a word to what we are to NSP that word would be indifferent.

Karmagettie.7231:

Why must everything that is “strong” be nerfed. In no way are portals ruining the game. It takes planning to use them and defend against them. Adapt to it. Dont beg for nerfing on everything you get beat up with.

No it doesn’t. As a single skill there is no equal in terms of how effective portals are in wvwvw.

One single skill can determine a fight on both offense and defense. It can move as many golems across a map as you want in mere seconds. It can give huge zergs unprecedented mobility.

No other single skill comes close to being as useful as portals in wvwvw. The worst part is that it actually doesn’t take very much effort to use them.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

fellyn.5083:

Take it as an insult if you want. It wasn’t intended to be. But just look at the complaints in this thread that DB feels like they are being double teamed. It’s not intentional and it’s not by design.

My point was purely that we do our best to remove any trace of db off the map in prime time and because of that fact you guys complain about being double teamed. I said it before and the reason why that is is because we can’t compete with your night time population.

Again, take it as an insult or don’t. That’s up to you.

I can’t speak for NSP but I imagine that they disagree with how DB is staying competitive score wise (hint: it’s not because of your us prime time people)

You don’t have the numbers to compete with our night time population. We don’t have the numbers to compete with you during NA prime time. We stay competitive as a WHOLE server because NA and Oceanic fight hard to maintain what we have. Your comment was a straight up insult to our NA Prime Time, like we didn’t make any difference in the overall outcome, and now the back peddling with take it as an insult or don’t. That’s up to you SMH

It’s all in how you read it. If we were to read between the lines we could say that DB feels like we (DH and NSP) are only staying competitive because we “double team” you.

Besides that you aren’t taking into consideration the post in which I was replying to. It outright suggested that DB and NSP double team DH when all I was doing was suggesting a reason why NSP might prefer to attack you guys over us.

Maybe I could have worded my post a little better but I was getting annoyed by your people’s continual complaining that we are directly working with NSP to double team you guys.

Take it as an insult if you want. It wasn’t intended to be. But just look at the complaints in this thread that DB feels like they are being double teamed. It’s not intentional and it’s not by design.

My point was purely that we do our best to remove any trace of db off the map in prime time and because of that fact you guys complain about being double teamed. I said it before and the reason why that is is because we can’t compete with your night time population.

Again, take it as an insult or don’t. That’s up to you.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

fellyn.5083:

Furey.6734:

To summarize on my definition of double teaming; it is two servers attacking one server non-stop and not attacking each other unless their armies bump into each other for many hours. IE: If these two servers happened to attack the same thing such as SM but were also constantly attacking each other else where (orange swords), then this is not double teaming. I am pretty sure you guys can figure out what is and what isn’t, but I think all 3 servers know what is going on.

DB has been constantly full, and I know that there are a few guilds still in the process of transfering onto the server so it is not over. You are not going to see an instant NA prime time boost. You will probably notice the change gradually. As for moving up a tier, I believe DB will be ready after the guilds are settled in. Like I said before, I would want DB to move up a tier on its own merit when its ready without any other server’s help, because it would just get hammered back down.

And what do you think we should do about it to make it fair for you? You obviously feel slighted in some way otherwise you wouldn’t keep bringing the double teaming up.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Ethose.5694:

It makes total sense for NSP and DH to attack DB during the NA Primetime. The night presence just necessitates it.

I agree with fellyn here. Put yourself in their shoes on the other servers. They both know that DB is going to take everything during the night. The only chance they have to win the week is make sure DB gets as few points as possible during the day.

I don’t think there really is a viable strategy for NSP to win the week against these servers the way they are currently comprised. But using this strategy has kept them competitive at least without letting either DH or DB run away with it.

I have an idea… how about NSP and DB double team DH? Then DB and NSP can fight over 1st place.

I can’t speak for NSP but I imagine that they disagree with how DB is staying competitive score wise (hint: it’s not because of your us prime time people) so that might be why they choose to target you guys instead of trying to fight DH.

That sounds like a dig at the NA prime time players. Even outnumbered as much as we are in NA prime time, both of you struggle to contain DB. The only problem I see with NSP being able to be more competitive is the simple fact DH wipes their map for numbers. We do this at times, but it’s more or less to pull them off our borderlands. We do the same thing to DH. Strategy 101 my friend. I think we’re all pretty close in terms of rating, so it’s actually been fun for a change. Nice not to have the huge blowouts we’ve endured for some time. Bottom line is we’re all going to get doubled teamed at some point. I actually enjoy it, but I wouldn’t if it was a constant thing.

It’s not a dig at anyone. It’s a fact. The only reason DB is staying competitive score wise is because of their night time players.

And DH has had very little issues doing what we wanted against DB on any map during NA prime time. At least that’s how it was for most of this match up, I haven’t had the time to play for a few days.

Talyjta.9081:

CelestialWyrm.8572:

Out of curiosity, why would you need that much space?

Discovering cooking recipes, maybe? There are 100ish different intermediates that need to be stored – because otherwise you’ll never find out what’s missing in your 4th slot. (Except internet study, but that’s less fun.)

You do realize that you don’t need to have the stuff in your actual inventory right? Discoveries draw directly from your collection bank and have for quite a while.

Also, invest $10 into gems every week or two and buy some extra bag slots. You can get 160 that way, assuming you have all 8 bag slots and 20 slot bags. And it’s probably still cheaper to buy extra bag slots with gold outright than buying the rune for 20 slot bags.

tkalamba.2541:

fellyn.5083:

People actually buy gems with the idea in mind that they’d use them to buy exotic gear? Serious question.

Apparently so.

I had my full set ready to go only a few days after hitting 80. I just didnt bother spending karma as I leveled, really there was no point. Saved it for when I hit 80 and voila, free exotics. Wasn’t hard.

Ugh… if people did a minimal amount of gathering they’d have more than enough materials to make a few pieces of exotic armor as soon as they hit 80. Then there is karma and dungeons. The time it takes to get a full set of dungeon armor is so quick now compared to what it was at launch as well.

These are likely the people who also complain about not having anything to do in game, too, I bet.

People actually buy gems with the idea in mind that they’d use them to buy exotic gear? Serious question.

tigirius.9014:

heavy armor
immunity to the nerf bat
ability to get their problems fixed almost immediately even on patch days….
yada yada yadaaah……/shrug

for a while there I was actually thinking they wanted us all to play nothing but considering some of these problems have been in some of the adventurer classes since bwe3…..got some answers recently we’ll see.

Uh yeah…no. Out of all the issues and outright broken things with the warrior class a grand total of 0 of them have been fixed since launch.

I’m not saying other classes don’t have their issues, however. What I am saying is that nothing you said is true.

Also if you are dieing repeatedly to 100b in spvp that’s a l2p issue.

Furey.6734:

To summarize on my definition of double teaming; it is two servers attacking one server non-stop and not attacking each other unless their armies bump into each other for many hours. IE: If these two servers happened to attack the same thing such as SM but were also constantly attacking each other else where (orange swords), then this is not double teaming. I am pretty sure you guys can figure out what is and what isn’t, but I think all 3 servers know what is going on.

DB has been constantly full, and I know that there are a few guilds still in the process of transfering onto the server so it is not over. You are not going to see an instant NA prime time boost. You will probably notice the change gradually. As for moving up a tier, I believe DB will be ready after the guilds are settled in. Like I said before, I would want DB to move up a tier on its own merit when its ready without any other server’s help, because it would just get hammered back down.

And what do you think we should do about it to make it fair for you? You obviously feel slighted in some way otherwise you wouldn’t keep bringing the double teaming up.

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Ethose.5694:

It makes total sense for NSP and DH to attack DB during the NA Primetime. The night presence just necessitates it.

I agree with fellyn here. Put yourself in their shoes on the other servers. They both know that DB is going to take everything during the night. The only chance they have to win the week is make sure DB gets as few points as possible during the day.

I don’t think there really is a viable strategy for NSP to win the week against these servers the way they are currently comprised. But using this strategy has kept them competitive at least without letting either DH or DB run away with it.

I have an idea… how about NSP and DB double team DH? Then DB and NSP can fight over 1st place.

I can’t speak for NSP but I imagine that they disagree with how DB is staying competitive score wise (hint: it’s not because of your us prime time people) so that might be why they choose to target you guys instead of trying to fight DH.

Hexin.5603:

OS is NSP.

And regardless of outcome, if FA is still in the bracket up above, they will crush any of our servers. There is not enough here on any server regardless of what you think. Some guy on maguuma gave me the heads up about them weeks back, and when we battled, it was even worse than your heart wants to convince you.

If you were to have a fighting chance at being competitive in the bracket above, you really do need 24 hour coverage.

these past two weeks however, have been a blast. I’ve enjoyed the battles. And you know how to tell when it’s close right? Squabbling over tag teams … things in mind that seem so real are intensified with competition. We all belong together, and yes DB you will be getting stronger, with your new additions. But reality sets in on the first 24 hour full server coverage.

Mag’s and Ehmry are great, but they are much like our 3 servers. You guys all played well these past 2 weeks, and I’m certain we all have gone through so much siege our pockets are feeling the hurt.

To the guy who posted the karma/capping train thought, it would be nice to build everyone’s bank roll back up. But will never happen.

Hopefully DH can increase our Asia Pacific and EU/early bird EST coverage, we’re growing there, but still a lot of room for any looking to fill that gap. We have good NA prime to PST midnight, growing AsiaPac / Australia coverage, but little early bird EST specials.

Looking forward to more battles with you all tonight, regardless of race or color… fight hard.

To be fair DB is only really competitive because for about 10 hours out of the day they have the maps completely uncontested for the most part.

If DH is able to beat DB and keep competitive with them score wise with the amount of time coverage we have DB will get absolutely destroyed in the higher tiers. That may as well be considered a fact of life at this point. I hope no one takes offense to this because this is just how it is.

That being said it’s pointless to discuss because next week’s projected match up is the same as this weeks.

Insidious.9460:

Got to love pvd servers.

Are you implying DH is pvd’ing because we’re keeping up with DB in score?

SHM.7628:

Solefald.8751:

Yes I have to say you are right. But things are getting worse since the lost shores patch.

As far as I was concerned, lost shores was the final nail in their coffin. After they made my level 80 exotics obsolete, there was no turning back. I deleted the characters and uninstalled the game.

Since lost shores (or the final insult as I like to call it) I haven’t even been mildly tempted to play again.

If you love grind ( I do not) there’s lots of Korean grinders out there that are way more fun anyway. The joke’s on them, because they’ll get no cash shop purchases from me now.

Except for your exotics weren’t obsolete.

Drama queens strike again.

lani.7431:

fellyn.5083:

Complaints about double teaming are getting tiring. It’s not intentional and there is no conspiracy. It happens to every single server at one point or another. Learn to deal with it or don’t play.

No one thinks it is a conspiracy. It’s just happening. Last night DB took Veloka and were smacked down by both NSP and DH zergs on both sides. Neither were fighting. It was rather funny. I was standing in the middle with a couple other people laughing. We scare you guys this much?

Then why do you guys keep bringing it up? It’s a total and complete non issue.

Complaints about double teaming are getting tiring. It’s not intentional and there is no conspiracy. It happens to every single server at one point or another. Learn to deal with it or don’t play.

If you’re getting killed by warriors consistently as a guardian then you’re doing something wrong.

Furey.6734:

Fellyn don’t try and con NSP. They are not stupid. They are 30k behind which is alot worse than the beginning of the last match. Given current trends, that gap will continue to widen before the end of the match meaning they would have done alot worse than last week.

I never said they are stupid and I’m not how you got that from my post.

Furey.6734:

fellyn.5083:

Furey.6734:

Shadowscamp.8065:

Raific.4652:

Furey.6734:

As a commander of DB I normally choose to attack DH the first placed server during the match. However, tonight we pushed NSP first simply because we are getting annoyed of the double teaming. I will continue to do the same every night till it stops. You will notice the proof of this by the widening gap between DB and NSP. So your strategy is not working. Either way, DB has stood their ground on their own. We do not need to double team on another server to win or get where we are.

I love paranoid people and good conspiracies! Someone said the following on our TS the other day and I thought it was hysterical: “They think we are coordinating perfect attacks with other servers when we can’t even coordinate attacks with our own!” I believe you give us too much credit. :p

Each server will always think they are the victim. I guess it is how the gaming world is. If “you” win, it is skill. If “they” win, there is some other reason that victory was stolen from ya.

Please do continue to attack us because we will be attacking you… and DH. Don’t take it personal, its all for fun.

I agree with this.

However, I don’t think people think you’re actually coordinating the “double team”. I’m pretty sure no one on this thread is under the delusion that anyone in this tier is trying hard enough to actually get coordinated attacks cross-servers. In reality, there are many reasons for both 1st place and 3rd place to try and take down whoever’s in 2nd place. For those in 1st place, it’s to get even more of a lead over whoever’s the biggest threat, in this case 2nd place. For those in 3rd place, it’s to try and overtake 2nd place to become a contender. Being in the middle of a 3-way fight is usually a hard place to be in.

Either way, it’s a mechanic of a 3-way fight for those in 2nd place to be attacked from both sides more often than 1st attacks 3rd or vice versa. There are just more reasons for both 1st and 3rd to do that than attack each other.

I never said anything about the attacks being co-ordinated, and I know there isn’t. I have played on EB during DH prime time and our server has witnessed that DH and NSP left each other alone the whole time aside from a few camp swaps. Both servers focused on DB alone until DB wiped out. Then instead of moving on to attack each other to gain points, we are spawn camped. This would happen for at least 4-6 hours. Is that normal? I have never seen this happen to this extent from any other match. Would this be fun if this happened to you? Does our NA primetime deserve to be treated like this just because of what happens on the nights?

DH, you are playing the match as you should be. You are going for first and you are beating down the next contender. That makes perfect sense. However, NSP’s logic is a bit flawed. How does beating down the 2nd place server bring them closer to 1st place? Don’t forget that there is no DB night shift to save the day on Friday because the match ends before they come on.

Like I said before, DB does not need any other servers to get to where they are at. If we win or lose we did it on our own. We dont want to jump up a tier weak because our advancement isn’t justified. We will just get clobbered back down.

PS: Shadowscamp your logic is a bit flawed. DH and DB have been switching between first place. Yet the hammer always comes down on DB NA prime time.

You should take it as a compliment. I wouldn’t say we fear your servers night time presence but we strongly respect it. Thus we do what we can to negate what impact they have on our score.

If both NSP and DH didn’t make a direct effort to slow down your point gain you would likely run away with the score over the coarse of several nights making any sort of even competition pointless.

And that is why you feel like you are being double teamed.

P.S. Only your “prime time” people could make such a complaint as you have to know your night time people have the run of the map(s) with very little competition, for the most part. Sorry if you take offense to that but that’s how it is.

Fellyn, there is no offense taken, and I am not taking it personal. I am just pointing out what I notice.

In my honest opinion, last week’s match was alot better when there wasn’t the double teaming and all servers were alot closer in points being contenders for 1st place.

Uh…NSP was in the same position last week they are in now.

And it’s only double teaming in the sense that both DH and NSP have something to gain by keeping DB from getting to many points.

Since we’re naming things that aren’t fair….It’s not “fair” that we get to wake up every morning to a completely DB controlled map when it was the complete opposite the night before.

But thems the breaks. W v W v W isn’t meant to be fair. That’s what spvp is for.

Decrypter.1785:

Was Glint an Elder Dragon ?

Glint was a champion of Kralkatorrik that managed to free herself from his(?) sway somehow.

Furey.6734:

Shadowscamp.8065:

Raific.4652:

Furey.6734:

As a commander of DB I normally choose to attack DH the first placed server during the match. However, tonight we pushed NSP first simply because we are getting annoyed of the double teaming. I will continue to do the same every night till it stops. You will notice the proof of this by the widening gap between DB and NSP. So your strategy is not working. Either way, DB has stood their ground on their own. We do not need to double team on another server to win or get where we are.

I love paranoid people and good conspiracies! Someone said the following on our TS the other day and I thought it was hysterical: “They think we are coordinating perfect attacks with other servers when we can’t even coordinate attacks with our own!” I believe you give us too much credit. :p

Each server will always think they are the victim. I guess it is how the gaming world is. If “you” win, it is skill. If “they” win, there is some other reason that victory was stolen from ya.

Please do continue to attack us because we will be attacking you… and DH. Don’t take it personal, its all for fun.

I agree with this.

However, I don’t think people think you’re actually coordinating the “double team”. I’m pretty sure no one on this thread is under the delusion that anyone in this tier is trying hard enough to actually get coordinated attacks cross-servers. In reality, there are many reasons for both 1st place and 3rd place to try and take down whoever’s in 2nd place. For those in 1st place, it’s to get even more of a lead over whoever’s the biggest threat, in this case 2nd place. For those in 3rd place, it’s to try and overtake 2nd place to become a contender. Being in the middle of a 3-way fight is usually a hard place to be in.

Either way, it’s a mechanic of a 3-way fight for those in 2nd place to be attacked from both sides more often than 1st attacks 3rd or vice versa. There are just more reasons for both 1st and 3rd to do that than attack each other.

I never said anything about the attacks being co-ordinated, and I know there isn’t. I have played on EB during DH prime time and our server has witnessed that DH and NSP left each other alone the whole time aside from a few camp swaps. Both servers focused on DB alone until DB wiped out. Then instead of moving on to attack each other to gain points, we are spawn camped. This would happen for at least 4-6 hours. Is that normal? I have never seen this happen to this extent from any other match. Would this be fun if this happened to you? Does our NA primetime deserve to be treated like this just because of what happens on the nights?

DH, you are playing the match as you should be. You are going for first and you are beating down the next contender. That makes perfect sense. However, NSP’s logic is a bit flawed. How does beating down the 2nd place server bring them closer to 1st place? Don’t forget that there is no DB night shift to save the day on Friday because the match ends before they come on.

Like I said before, DB does not need any other servers to get to where they are at. If we win or lose we did it on our own. We dont want to jump up a tier weak because our advancement isn’t justified. We will just get clobbered back down.

PS: Shadowscamp your logic is a bit flawed. DH and DB have been switching between first place. Yet the hammer always comes down on DB NA prime time.

You should take it as a compliment. I wouldn’t say we fear your servers night time presence but we strongly respect it. Thus we do what we can to negate what impact they have on our score.

If both NSP and DH didn’t make a direct effort to slow down your point gain you would likely run away with the score over the coarse of several nights making any sort of even competition pointless.

And that is why you feel like you are being double teamed.

P.S. Only your “prime time” people could make such a complaint as you have to know your night time people have the run of the map(s) with very little competition, for the most part. Sorry if you take offense to that but that’s how it is.

Conncept.7638:

fellyn.5083:

Conncept.7638:

fellyn.5083:

Then don’t do it? You guys realize the monthly achievement is entirely optional right? You’re not forced to do it?

Yeah it’s 45000~ karma and 50s, so what. I can’t think of a single reason why you’d need to rely on the karma and silver earned through the monthly. It’s just supposed to be a nice little bonus once a month and that’s all. Key word there being bonus.

Guess what? Playing the game is entirely optional, looking at art is too, listening to music is optional. Entertainment is optional.

So, if every song is terrible, all art is ugly, and no games are fun to play because designers and artists won’t make good ones; we should all just sit down, shut up, and do nothing with our free time?

When something is flawed it needs to be addressed, that is how improvement is made.

The problem with your thinking is that you think are entitled to finish the monthly achievement every month. You are not. It’s a bonus, something above and beyond. If you want it you work for it. Fairly simple concept yet really hard to grasp at the same time.

Nice try using the anti-Obama word of the month, but you should probably know what it means before you attempt to use it. Entitlement is demanding something you have not payed for or earned in any way. I paid for this game with money I spent my time earning. I am not entitled to anything, but I do have full rights to participate in any part of the game without hindrance, not part of it.

Now they are already breaking this stipulation by first adding in a section of the game which is inherently flawed, and they have admitted so publicly on Reddit. But as you said, it’s not a big deal, because I can just avoid it. EXCEPT that they have now required me to play this flawed section of the game in order to participate fully in a completely unrelated section.

Now everybody makes mistakes and I’m, a pretty forgiving person, but when you then limit my ability to enjoy something I have earned by virtue of your mistake, I have a problem with that and I have full rights to express my entirely valid displeasure.

So let me get this straight. You paid for the game (as we all did) so you are automatically entitled to have everything in the game without putting in a little effort to get it? And instead of putting in that little bit of effort you spend your time complaining on the forums because you are lazy? Am I painting the picture correctly here?

“Entitlement is demanding something you have not payed for or earned in any way.”

Point in case. You did not earn the monthly achievement because in fact…you didn’t earn it. Buying the game in no way shape or form means you automatically get handed loot for no reason once a month. lol

I understand the levels of fractals are broken and hugely segregating the in game community but that is beside the point. That’s an entirely separate issue that has nothing to do with the monthly achievement. It could have just as easily been “finish 7 different dungeon paths” and people would still complain. “wah wah I hate dungeons don’t make me do them change it now Anet!!!!”

Look, I get what you’re saying and oridnarily I would agree with you. Hell I’ve even used the same arguments you did when talking about precursors in the crafting section. But what you are asking for in this case just doesn’t make sense because it’s a BONUS as opposed to something the entire end game revolves around.

noun, plural bo·nus·es.
1. something given or paid over and above what is due.
2. a sum of money granted or given to an employee, a returned soldier, etc., in addition to regular pay, usually in appreciation for work done, length of service, accumulated favors, etc.
3. something free, as an extra dividend, given by a corporation to a purchaser of its securities.
4. a premium paid for a loan, contract, etc.
5. something extra or additional given freely: Every purchaser of a pound of coffee received a box of cookies as a bonus.

Tumbero.3945:

I love how the carebears defend the pve , awesome as always.

What does this even mean?

lani.7431:

I don’t think they were taking it personal.

It was bothering him enough that he had to make a deal out of being “double teamed”.

LordByron.8369:

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

LordByron.8369:

Tosha Daydreamer.9251:

OP is wrong, for one reason. Someone may not play the game anymore, but has lifelong forum access. I’ve noticed that most disgruntled doomyellers do not play the game anymore. On a forum of a sub based game, these players wouldnt have a forum account anymore, and thus unable to reply. Here, quite a few of them keep spamming doom and gloom, even though they’ve stopped playing.

So imo you can’t really count them in the player group.

cool…

Now you will for sure show us a statistical evidence more significant of the situation you are trying to disprove right?

Sure. I’ll show you the same amount of statistical data the rest of the replyers and the OP did in this very constructive discussion.

start with a 10.000 posts thread of complaints with 100.000+ visits…with more pages than whole general section pages.

Just to put some numbers

Add polls on forum

Your move now…..show me something similar.

And every single one of those posts were from a unique poster? As with the views? And was each post in that thread a complaint instead of praise?

Furey.6734:

As a commander of DB I normally choose to attack DH the first placed server during the match. However, tonight we pushed NSP first simply because we are getting annoyed of the double teaming. I will continue to do the same every night till it stops. You will notice the proof of this by the widening gap between DB and NSP. So your strategy is not working. Either way, DB has stood their ground on their own. We do not need to double team on another server to win or get where we are.

lol? You’re in second place (or you were last night*). Of course NSP wants to attack you as they are trying to gain second place. And guess what? We on DH attack you to secure our place as first and to lower the impact your large night and morning presence has on the scoreboard.

The so called double teaming is not intentional, you can believe that. So don’t take it personal, k?

*going by scores as they were when I logged off last night

Conner.4702:

fellyn.5083:

ikiturso.4026:

I join fractals of the mist or what ever its called hater band! Doing dungeons for monthly is ok. 5 of them is not too hard but now monthly has become complete PVE. Totally and utterly screwing pvp/ wvw players. Some people say 45k karma is not much?!? Go to wvw and tell me how fast u get 45k. Ill give u a hint: It will take forever. I like to do some dungeons but this fractal thing for my gaming experience is just lame. I dont like it, I dont play it, I dont want to be forced to play it! All other monthlys could have been done by pvp/wvw or pve players equally. (few paths of AC and 2 others for dungeon and done for pvp player) Please Anet change the monthly! this is far from equal footing of pvp and pve players.

Uh. I don’t know what server you are on but with my guild and my server I could probably get 45k karma in 2 or 3 days of wvw playing 2-3 hours a day, if not quicker than that.

The question is, do you play to win or to farm karma, because the latter isn’t really helping your server in the long run.

I don’t go out of my way to farm karma if that’s what you’re asking. I’ve never once gone out of my way to farm karma in nearly 600 hours of play. Besides that there is nothing I need or want that I can buy with karma outside of shards anyways. And I have nearly 800k karma saved up for those as it is now.

So yeah, point is karma isn’t hard to get if you only do w v w.

jwburks.9735:

The only people who don’t at least read the forums, are casual players, and people who generally don’t care enough about the game to be bothered. People who say we are the “vocal minority” are only trying to convince you that all the complaints here are from “the minority,” and that things are nowhere near as bad as they are reflected here. Wrong.

Not true at all. I have lots of friends who play gw2 and have hundreds of hours logged who don’t bother with the forums.

It’s great that you managed to ask every single person who plays the game if they post on the forum or not and then came to the conclusion after compiling all the data you got from that consensus though. I applaud your hard work.

ikiturso.4026:

I join fractals of the mist or what ever its called hater band! Doing dungeons for monthly is ok. 5 of them is not too hard but now monthly has become complete PVE. Totally and utterly screwing pvp/ wvw players. Some people say 45k karma is not much?!? Go to wvw and tell me how fast u get 45k. Ill give u a hint: It will take forever. I like to do some dungeons but this fractal thing for my gaming experience is just lame. I dont like it, I dont play it, I dont want to be forced to play it! All other monthlys could have been done by pvp/wvw or pve players equally. (few paths of AC and 2 others for dungeon and done for pvp player) Please Anet change the monthly! this is far from equal footing of pvp and pve players.

Uh. I don’t know what server you are on but with my guild and my server I could probably get 45k karma in 2 or 3 days of wvw playing 2-3 hours a day, if not quicker than that.

Conncept.7638:

fellyn.5083:

Then don’t do it? You guys realize the monthly achievement is entirely optional right? You’re not forced to do it?

Yeah it’s 45000~ karma and 50s, so what. I can’t think of a single reason why you’d need to rely on the karma and silver earned through the monthly. It’s just supposed to be a nice little bonus once a month and that’s all. Key word there being bonus.

Guess what? Playing the game is entirely optional, looking at art is too, listening to music is optional. Entertainment is optional.

So, if every song is terrible, all art is ugly, and no games are fun to play because designers and artists won’t make good ones; we should all just sit down, shut up, and do nothing with our free time?

When something is flawed it needs to be addressed, that is how improvement is made.

The problem with your thinking is that you think are entitled to finish the monthly achievement every month. You are not. It’s a bonus, something above and beyond. If you want it you work for it. Fairly simple concept yet really hard to grasp at the same time.

Then don’t do it? You guys realize the monthly achievement is entirely optional right? You’re not forced to do it?

Yeah it’s 45000~ karma and 50s, so what. I can’t think of a single reason why you’d need to rely on the karma and silver earned through the monthly. It’s just supposed to be a nice little bonus once a month and that’s all. Key word there being bonus.

Despite F1’s awesomeness you’re still not encouraged to use it in most (all) builds that involve axe/axe.

With axe/axe you’re going to want to be taking the traits that give both crit and damage as you get more adrenaline.

ComeAndSee.1356:

Akumu.7238:

No dude, Anet is trolling you. Blame them for upping damage and lowering toughness as it scales. 3700 toughness and you would think a warrior was wearing a T-shirt after being hit by a full glass cannon..

I’m sure you’re a class that have better/effective damage mitigation and self support reliance. Warriors doesn’t have these luxuries. Even our broken friend Ranger has better support. Not many go that route, but they can out support a warrior 1v1 and win in a battle of attrition.

It’s starting to get more ridiculous by the week. You make the conscious effort to stack high armor and vitality in order to boost your survivability to the point that you literally can’t boost it any higher and people come around and smash you for a 1/3rd of your life in one hit or instant gib you in 3 seconds (had a Thief do that to me earlier).

It’s only two classes in game that can hit this hard and they’re both physical attack classes, go figure.

I guess you missed the thread with the ele that was doing 25k damage in 3 seconds.

Hard to take a guy serious when he says warriors are just wannabe thieves. Warrior has some issues that need to be worked out, that much is granted. But lack of dps isn’t one of them.

I personally prefer axe/mace for both wvw and explorables.

They just need a “show useable” check box that when checked only shows stuff you can use in the merchant dialogs across the board. It would be useful at just about every kind of merchant there is.

Seems to me that it’s a dummy dev only item that is spoofing the “tps report” from Office Space.

The radius on the fire sigil seems to be a little further than melee range and usually hits for about 1000 or so. I don’t know if they can crit as well as I’ve never payed any attention to that.

Still that 1000 damage is usually more damage than most non-crit attacks do.

Braxxus.2904:

fellyn.5083:

I don’t know if it’s just me or what but 12k damage in 1 hit (hb is 8 total hits with a 4 second channel) looks pretty kitten strong.

Seems to me like eles need nerfed.

/s

/s stands for “end sarcasm”? I’m going to assume so until you say otherwise because ele’s really don’t and believe it or not I applaud this guy for bursting like this on his ele.

Completely sarcastic. Generally I wouldn’t have used the “/s” but people tend to be really dense. I’m not aiming that at you but the people who are defending ele’s in this instance and using the same arguments against us (warriors) that we’ve been using since they first starting calling for warrior nerfs.

It’s completely ironic and funny.

Lifelike.5862:

All of those classes you just listed have much lower natural defense modifiers than a warrior. Even if a warrior builds glass, he’s still got 20,000+ HP.

Also, Engineers and Elementalists can’t swap weapons. Ele’s need to put most of their skills on cooldown to do this. Warriors need to put 1 skill and some utilities on cooldown. What’s stopping you from switching to that sword/warhorn and running away with your perma-swiftness as soon as people figure out where the sniper shot came from?

It would help in an argument if you knew what you’re talking about. A glass cannon spec’d warrior will have nowhere near 20k hp. The only time my warrior had 20k+ hp in wvw was when we had all 3 orbs and/or 300k+ points for max stat bonuses.

I ran 3 superior runes of ogre and 3 ruby orbs. You get far more return on investing in runes with power on them than precision. I didn’t see any point in putting 3 more runes of the ogre on for the last 90+ power because I could get an almost equal amount of power out of the ruby orbs.

I would also suggest either sigil of force or sigil of fire.

jamasont.4653:

In everyones opinion what are some of the famous blunders difference MMO franchises have made over the last decade or so. For me here are a few and why.

Everquest: 1. PoP and having to get flagged to use all the raid zones.
2. Countless major nerfs to favorite classes such as mitigation nerf to monks.
3. The HUGE disparity between raiders and groupers.

WoW: 1. BG’s and disparity between raiders and groupers. PvP was a blast till BG’s and gear started to matter ie at high lvls/raiding.
2. Eliminating hybrids making you either full tank/dps/heals.
3. Nerfing windfurry, I know it was OP when it procc’d but you had to rely pretty heavily on it so was balanced imo and didn’t proc too often.

GW2: 1. Adding a gear treadmill.
2. No open world PvP and it’s very gear dependent. I hate getting steamrolled just cause x players got better gear.

You might have a point, except for the GW2 one hasn’t happened yet. If you’re getting steam rolled in wvw right now then it’s because you’re bad. Ascended gear has nothing to do with it.

I don’t know if it’s just me or what but 12k damage in 1 hit (hb is 8 total hits with a 4 second channel) looks pretty kitten strong.

Seems to me like eles need nerfed.

/s

I like how it’s “darkhaven hacking” instead of “player on darkhaven hacking”.

Why not just try and see? It’s very unlikely you will be able to use any items that were previously soul bound though as the game will consider that a different character.

Azure Prower.8701:

fellyn.5083:

Azure Prower.8701:

fellyn.5083:

If you’re only trying to farm t6 crafting materials you’re doing it wrong. You should be farming t5 materials and upgrading them. You will also get a few t6 drops in this process, too.

It’s very easy to get 100+ potent bloods in an hour or two from various spots in Frostgorge.

Yeah it’s a bit tedious but it’s a much more reliable method than actually seeking out just t6 crafting materials.

Azure Prower.8701:

Don’t even suggest the mystic forge because for the price of the materials to forge T5 materials into T6, you could literally buy T6 materials straight out for less.

So what are your alternatives if it’s not upgrading t5 materials or buying them outright off the market.

You’re farming t5 materials to convert. The cost to you is minimal at the worst. You might have to buy some crystalline dust but that’s all. You could get anywhere from 20-30 t6 materials an hour by upgrading t5 materials you farm yourself.

I think you missed my point entirely.

When selling the t5 materials on the TP and buying out T6 materials is cheaper. It’s not really an option at all.

Okay? So just farm t5 materials, sell them, buy t6 materials. I don’t see where the problem is*?

Either way farming t5 materials is the best way to get your t6 materials.

*besides the fact that t6 materials have horrid drop rates to begin with

Azure Prower.8701:

fellyn.5083:

If you’re only trying to farm t6 crafting materials you’re doing it wrong. You should be farming t5 materials and upgrading them. You will also get a few t6 drops in this process, too.

It’s very easy to get 100+ potent bloods in an hour or two from various spots in Frostgorge.

Yeah it’s a bit tedious but it’s a much more reliable method than actually seeking out just t6 crafting materials.

Azure Prower.8701:

Don’t even suggest the mystic forge because for the price of the materials to forge T5 materials into T6, you could literally buy T6 materials straight out for less.

So what are your alternatives if it’s not upgrading t5 materials or buying them outright off the market.

You’re farming t5 materials to convert. The cost to you is minimal at the worst. You might have to buy some crystalline dust but that’s all. You could get anywhere from 20-30 t6 materials an hour by upgrading t5 materials you farm yourself.

I think you missed my point entirely.

Azure Prower.8701:

Plunder.8195:

fellyn.5083:

If you’re only trying to farm t6 crafting materials you’re doing it wrong. You should be farming t5 materials and upgrading them. You will also get a few t6 drops in this process, too.

It’s very easy to get 100+ potent bloods in an hour or two from various spots in Frostgorge.

Yeah it’s a bit tedious but it’s a much more reliable method than actually seeking out just t6 crafting materials.

But I need those to craft rares and salvage them to get my ectoplasms.
But yes, if you have enough of the ecto’s is probably the best way to do it.

He’s also forgetting to mention you also need http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pile_of_Crystalline_Dust to make the conversion.

Some thing not so easily farmed nor cheap on the TP. Trust me. It is not worth it. It’s like trading 5 T6 mats PLUS extra for… 5-7 T6 mats.

Here’s what it takes:

50 of the t5 material
1 of the t6 material
5 crystalline dust
5 philosophers stones – you get 10 per 1 skill point

If you farm all the t5 materials yourself you’re still getting other weapon and armor drops that will more than cover the cost of the dust, which is likely the only thing you will need to spend any gold on.

If you’re only trying to farm t6 crafting materials you’re doing it wrong. You should be farming t5 materials and upgrading them. You will also get a few t6 drops in this process, too.

It’s very easy to get 100+ potent bloods in an hour or two from various spots in Frostgorge.

Yeah it’s a bit tedious but it’s a much more reliable method than actually seeking out just t6 crafting materials. You should be able to get all the powerful bloods you need in a week or two of light farming (1-2 hours a day).

This goes for people trying to get t6 materials for legendary weapons too. Also, you get t6 materials from making mystic clovers.

Brutalistik.6473:

If that’s the case about so many warriors in dungeons being glass cannons. Then Anet might change warriors so that glass cannon spec isn’t the only spec to participate in dungeons etc.

Unfortunately the way they tend to do that is to nerf the one good spec we have in order to promote other specs. Not make other specs actually worthwhile to use.

You might have a point of it was actually a serious competition. I don’t think anyone has ever taken it seriously.

So no it doesn’t make sense to complain about a “gear advantage”.

Also you can’t report people from other servers in wvw anymore.