Guild Wars 2

Madzharov.7530:

To the Darkhaven guild attacking people in the jumping puzzle:
Of course you realize, this means war. I will now make it my personal mission to organize thief groups to gank Darkhavens in the jumping puzzle.

Otherwise, it’s been a fun and interesting day so far. I was part of the initial group of people defending BP lands from the Dragonbrand assault. And let me tell you, you guys not only have nice tactics, but the numbers and coordination to pull them off. Attacking 3 keeps at once from multiple locations? Superb. In the end only Hills was left standing and despite our efforts the keep fell in the end as well. It’s too bad your force is Oceanic, makes me wonder what would have happened if you were facing our prime crew.

My only problem with you folks so far is this – You have a formidable force, a strategy to strike several places at once, that’s executed flawlessly, and yet there are some Dragonbrand Invaders that ended at the Hills Lord Room, when all inner and outer gates were at full health. Now clearly, this isn’t a mass guild exploit of +40 people like what Anvil Rock does on a daily basis, so I’ll give you guys the benefit of the doubt this time. Come on, you’ve already proved you don’t need something like this to win. I would post screenshots, but technically I already did and the mods pmed me. The exploiters were from the guilds TAP, GB and UhOh, so I am hopeful that that would help you in finding them.

In any case, everyone is welcomed to the guild banquet. As the DKz chief troll, I will make sure to provide excellent entertainment. =D

Edit: No, it’s not really bashing, if it’s true. When 2-3 people exploit, it’s an isolated case. When an alliance of guilds exploit with +40 people, then it’s server policy. Go away from this thread, Anvil, and fix your server.

Awwhhhmagawd pvp happened in a pvp area. Lets make it personal!

Tolmos.8395:

plasmacutter.2709:

please explain to me how gw2 emulates wow at all.

I’m just not seeing it.

I’m seeing a game combat system and content that is focused on players’ overall skill rather than their ability to mash a dps rotation. I’m seeing pvp that’s competitive and not based around out-gearing your opponents.

I’m seeing a very well implemented game with more available content than WoW had 3 months after its launch, and more content coming out at a faster rate than Blizzard ever maintained.

People who bash this game as being “like wow” have some real blindfolds on.

Their only real balance failure thus far is the in-game economy, but I have enough patience to wait that out.

GW1: story driven, gear plateau based gameplay. Hit max level early, max stats early, play the rest of the game (the remaining 90%+) for looks, exploration, story and fun.

WoW/GW2: gear driven gameplay. Open world zones are bordering on ghost towns in both games, end game consists of everyone farming the same dungeons over and over for the newest tier of gear. Future enjoyment of the game revolves around getting bigger numbers for your character.

All of those things you mention about GW2 Anet has said they are going to fix in future patches.

kane.1763:

Why can’t Anet make it so the green team is all green armour, blue team is all blue armour and red is all red armour and all with stock standard light/medium/heavy armour skins? That way each computer doesn’t have to render every single bit of different armour and colouring on each player…

I coulnd’t give too kittens about how shiny my shinies look too other people, I’d much rather be able to see that zerg of 60 instead of seeing 10.

Uh….what people are wearing has nothing to do with culling. Your computer would still has to display everything and it would still have to get that information from the servers.

Remember in Warhammer Online when your computer had to render hundreds of players in rvr? Yeah…

I’ll take gw2’s culling with playable fps and all the issues it causes over that any day.

That being said Aion actually had a system that handled this really well. They made it so you turned off all the player models besides people for your group and you’d just see the name plates for enemies and other team players. Anet should look into doing something like that.

UnFunky.9081:

DH jumped ship to BP? I know a server with 0 NA que times , Best transfer times to DB is 7am- 11am Pst

Not certain, apparently the person who said that was just joking. Although it can hardly be considered a joke if no one gets it or thinks it’s funny.

The funny thing is for 9500g you could buy all the materials to make about 9 different legendaries. Including Eternity.

Never going to happen. For starters henchmen were present in GW1 from the beginning, they aren’t in GW2.

I’m sure eventually an xpac will deal with the missing gods, but for the event…not likely.

Raffie.7865:

fellyn.5083:

We’re all witnessing the death of a server right now pretty much. Darkhaven’s wvwvw population is disappearing into thin air as we speak.

Dem free transfers.

REALLY!!?!??!?!
This is a shock to you why?
Nothing new about dude. Its been happening since the game released.

DH server is a place where guilds form and leave for the upper brackets.

Did I say it was? Just pointing out to those that might be expecting more from DH than they are going to get in this matchup. And it doesn’t help it’s an event week as well.

Ian.7380:

A hearty welcome to the guys from Darkhaven who came over! Good to have you.

You shouldn’t be happy to see them. Fair weather players are bad for every one.

Assassinin.4963:

Romek.4201:

when you DC tooo much you should fix it with your provider not arenanet with you

Your viewpoint is too naive imo. Each death and repair bill cost 1 silver 64 bronze. A single DC server wide will probably affect let say 10,000 players active in combat (assuming each server supporting 25,000 players of which only 10,000 players are in active combat) and chalk up a total repair bill of 164 golds. Taken across a server farm of 30 servers, a data center wide DC will reap Anet a total of 4920 golds. Not a bad commercial initiatives I must say.

Furthermore, if you have played WoW, you would have known that there is an exploit out there that can mass DC player in battleground. I hope that exploit don’t work in GW2, but I am not too sure.

If you think DC is not an issue with Anet or anybody other than your internet service provider, think twice. Don’t be too kitten sure.

Conspiracy theories are fun. I’ve never once disconnected in wvwvw but the leader of the guild I’m in disconnects quite often.

Since we’re both playing the same game and mine is perfectly stable the only difference can be our computers or internet connections.

Truth. The other day I was mailing some crafting materials to a friend. I sent 1 mail. A few minutes later I tried to mail them some more and I got a message saying I was being suppressed due to excessive messaging. How can sending 1 mail be excessive and this being the only mail I’ve sent in days, maybe even a week or more? Working as intended imo.

Anyways…lfg tool in game would be nice.

Zerraph.6749:

Kodiack.2783:

Warlord Lu Bu.7905:

I’ve never seen such obvious double teaming as I have until today.

We have Darkhaven basically bending over for Dragonbrand, gifting them Stonemist while Darkhaven gains nothing. No wonder Darkhaven continues to lose WvW players.

Now I’m not crying about it, just pointing out an incredibly obvious fact. Some servers try to gain the most points, while I guess some prefer to be another server’s kitten.

Maybe next time Borlis Pass shows up in a new Tier they may not want to come in and kitten off the locals.

There is already a separate thread about how BP is expecting to walk thru this Tier and face off with EB or YB.

There are several posts in this very thread about how you expect to have an easy time in this Tier.

Simply put, you brought this on yourself and now your crying about it? Typical.

-K

Actually…BP still expects to walk through this tier. So far…Nobody has given us any significant trouble (through an entire week) in well over a month. So why shouldn’t we be confident. So they can continue to bring on the double teams. We are still leading regardless.

There’s a difference between being confident and being a kitten about it.

Just 3 weeks ago DH would have crushed BP. We’ll be here waiting when your bubble bursts too. And it will.

Warlord Lu Bu.7905:

I’ve never seen such obvious double teaming as I have until today.

We have Darkhaven basically bending over for Dragonbrand, gifting them Stonemist while Darkhaven gains nothing. No wonder Darkhaven continues to lose WvW players.

Now I’m not crying about it, just pointing out an incredibly obvious fact. Some servers try to gain the most points, while I guess some prefer to be another server’s kitten.

You are crying about it. If there is double teaming going on it’s definitely not intentional. If you knew the uh…history…DB and DH have created over the past 3 weeks you’d never say that.

Just mentioning it means you think something should be done about it. But wvwvw isn’t fair, so learn to deal with it because it’s only going to get worse if BP has any hopes of moving up the ranks.

We’re all witnessing the death of a server right now pretty much. Darkhaven’s wvwvw population is disappearing into thin air as we speak.

Dem free transfers.

kerona.3465:

fellyn.5083:

Snoring Sleepwalker.9073:

fellyn.5083:

Uh… the people who are saying it is easy by far out number those who are saying it’s hard.

The majority are the people who aren’t saying anything. How do you know what they think ?

Go look in the other threads about the puzzle. Most people are saying it’s far easier than the clock tower.

Easier, yes. Too easy and mad at ANet for it? You.

I’m mad at anet for it? What? Where did you get that? I’m rather indifferent to it’s difficulty all things considered.

Snoring Sleepwalker.9073:

fellyn.5083:

Uh… the people who are saying it is easy by far out number those who are saying it’s hard.

The majority are the people who aren’t saying anything. How do you know what they think ?

Go look in the other threads about the puzzle. Most people are saying it’s far easier than the clock tower.

TWMagimay.9057:

fellyn.5083:

TWMagimay.9057:

And who would the “vocal minority” be? You and the other 4 who thought the puzzle was too easy or me and the other 40 who thought it is a -beep-?

Uh… the people who are saying it is easy by far out number those who are saying it’s hard.

And this jumping puzzle is easy. I would go as far as saying it’s one of the easiest puzzles in the game.

Where do you get your statistic from? Care to provide the source?

I’ll provide the same source for my argument that you did for yours.

TWMagimay.9057:

And who would the “vocal minority” be? You and the other 4 who thought the puzzle was too easy or me and the other 40 who thought it is a -beep-?

Uh… the people who are saying it is easy by far out number those who are saying it’s hard.

And this jumping puzzle is easy. I would go as far as saying it’s one of the easiest puzzles in the game.

sablephoenix.1593:

Speed is the problem. Some players simply cannot do a jumping puzzle quickly, so making them timed automatically eliminates us from ever completing them. I can do the other jumping puzzles because they’re static and I can take my time on them to line up each jump. I still fall multiple times before completing any given puzzle (they are the worst part of the game bar none), but when they simply do not give you time to line up a jump at all, that is just bad design. Twitchmasters and Counterstrike players can pull it off no problem, I’m sure. Then they sit there and offer patronizing comments and explain how easy it all is. Well for some of us it’s not, and invalidating our experience by explaining how it’s so simple and our problems must be because we’re bad players is insulting and offensive.

No one is saying you are bad players. But just because you cannot do it does not mean there is anything wrong with it. It’s called a challenge for a reason. If you could take all the time in the world to do it and plan your next move in hours instead of mere seconds it wouldn’t even be considered a challenge.

Biscuithammer.8615:

“it’s really easy.”

Possibly for the select few who are really good at jumping puzzles. But my issue is that this is content that most people won’t be able to complete or participate in.

In general everyone I’ve talked to about in my guild (of 400+ people) and on the forums says that it’s easy.

My personal opinion is that it’s one of the easiest puzzles in the game so far.

If you are worrying about the snow flakes melting on you then you’re not going fast enough to make it to the end before the frostbite debuff kills you anyways. You have to keep moving forward pretty much constantly.

LordNat.4963:

They removed Engineers from the game in all meaningful ways… There is not a single aspect of the game where the class is even useful anymore.

So glad I just started playing an engineer up to 25.. I think I’ll shelve it for now and work on a guardian maybe.

The only way it could be easier is if they made it a straight solid path to the end. Out of any jumping puzzle in the game this is by far the easiest one I’ve done. The snowflake platforms are so big you almost have to go out of your way to miss them. The only thing that gave me a bit of trouble was the giant snow balls at the end, but that took 2 runs to figure out.

FrankieBonez.8361:

Welcome Borlis Pass!! Looking foward to spilling some new blood!

Darkhaven seems to have a sick obsession with us as this will be our 3rd week fighting them DH are some tough motha truckas though and have given us great fights.

I am happy to say that most of the QQ from last week’s match-up between DB, DH, & NSP was not from rampant exploiting.

Good luck this week all!

Correction. Fourth week.

As for actual colors.. Celestial and Scarlet/ruby.

Krakah.3582:

Use the fountain. Also if you don’t like it complain to Anet loudly and help us remove PvE fom our PvP. We’re not happy PvE players take up PvP slots, so it’ll be a win for both player base.

Interestingly enough the rewards for the “pve” are for “pvp”. So it stands to reason that the people doing the wvwvw jumping puzzles might have more than a passing interest in pvp? Yes?

Thoughts? If people couldn’t use their “pve” gear in wvwvw most people probably wouldn’t bother with wvw considering how long it would take to get a full set of wvwvw gear.

Besides that I don’t get what you mean by it separates the pvp community. You’re gonna have to explain that one.

BFNK.6748:

Hey. I remember the talks about Guild Wars 2, a while before the actual release and betas. During one of the Q&A sessions someone asked about armors and your team replied something in the lines of: “…in Guild Wars 2 you can look exactly like you want to. If you want to look like a homeless person – you can, and you will be just as efficient as others are…”

Well… So far I haven’t seen any clothing that resembles a homeless person’s clothing. Dyes were supposed to be account wide according to your promises, yet they aren’t – that’s fine, I guess. But what happened to the bum set?

Anyways, my real question is about racial cultural armor – can it ever be made available for all races? I don’t see why not. It makes complete sense since any of these races are theoretically capable of putting clothes on. From a logical point of view – there are no contradictions. I am a somewhat casual-looking white guy, but no one is stopping me from dressing up like a black hip-hop star, right?

In my view if you expand on armors like I have mentioned – things will only get better. Models will probably need some considerable amounts of tweaking, but it would be pretty great.

I’m writing this since all of those talks left me with a certain impression in mind – that we will have (almost) full cosmetic freedom. I can understand if a cloth character is not able to wear plate armor, but this one-race-only thing is not so nice to be honest.

They can’t for the simple fact that the armors are designed to work on the races they are made for. There’s no way they could make the charr heavy t3 armor work on other races without completely changing it’s design.

Besides that… why? Let each race have something unique.

Ethose.5694:

Littlefeather.8623:

Wintuo.1356:

…No server has a PvDoor time…

Are you saying that the one and only reason DB is leading in score is not their Night time presence?

Have you been in WvW past 11pm PST and seen their numbers compared to ours?

Yes DB does have a PvD time, its when American players are asleep, their server is not a US Server it is carried by its Asian presence, we all know it. You can be a nice guy if you want but I tell it like it is.

If it wasnt for them, DB would be lucky to get past 50k the whole week.

Lets see here… I can do this..

Are you saying that the one and only reason DH is 2nd in score is not their NA presence?

Have you been in WvW past 4pm PST and seen their numbers compared to ours?

Yes DH does have a PvD time, its when Asian players are asleep, their server is not a Foreign Server it is carried by its NA presence, we all know it. You can be a nice guy if you want but I tell it like it is.

If it wasnt for them, DH would be lucky to get past 50k the whole week.

The point is that WvW is a 24 hour game. DH is stronger at one time than DB is and DB is stronger for a longer period of time. It makes DB a stronger overall server and that is causing the win in points. You need to quit raging on DBs nightime/early morning presence because you have the same advantages every evening. What makes your primetime any better than DB’s?

You may have a point except for the fact that I watched them close a 10000 point gap the other night in less than 2 hours. No other server can do that.

The only way that happens is if there is no opposition. Or not enough to make a single bit of difference.

Snowy.9580:

So funny that the cries are going out against mounts cause “They didn’t have them in GW1!”!!!
Is this the same GW1 that the same 1s are crying about that is nothing like GW2? Really? Awesome!
A lot of people seem to miss that fluff like mounts is (wait for it…) optional. There, I said it!
Do you all walk to your work/school/home/mental hospital? I bet not. But hey! Keep thinking all about yourself, at least we had the kittens to give you a choice, take the red mount pill or the blue walk pill…

If they added mounts they wouldn’t be optional. Especially if they could be used in wvwvw.

Nurse.1085:

I wouldn’t mind GROUND mounts that went at 33% speed for cosmetic / fun purposes. Would also give player’s something to aim for that’s a little extra. Doesn’t go anymore faster than a swiftness buff, thus it has no important impact on the game. It can even go combat slow when you get knocked into combat.

Flying mounts, however, would not be cool. Vistas would be a joke. Jumping puzzles would be a joke. This game wasn’t made for flying mounts.

If the mounts had a natural swiftness buff then they wouldn’t be cosmetic or for “fun purposes”. They would be for constant speed buffs and that’s all.

Wintuo.1356:

No server has a PvDoor time, every server has completely trashed on themselves for not thanking the few who do play when the zerg sleep and this happens in every matchup of every tier.

I recognize that we’re in the same guild and all but uh…I’m still going to disagree with you and contradict your post. So is that why on Saturday morning at 6am DH had a 10000 point lead, but then 2 hours later DB had the lead?

I witnessed this first hand so for you to say there is no pvd action going on which is the only way you can close a 10000 point gap in 2 hours. It took them literally 2 hours to close the lead we built up over about 14 hours, since the reset.

We think it because it’s true. Now before everyone gets all in a huff over this comment I don’t think anything can or should be done about it. It’s the nature of wvwvw, if you don’t have 24 hour coverage you lose, it’s that simple. I’m not complaining just pointing out what I’ve seen.

Illiander.8049:

I’m just going to point out that GW1 did have mounts available.

Does anyone remember the Siege Devourer out in the Charr Homelands you could ride?

A big, slow, living charr tank. I’d be ok with some of those being out in the world.

Just as long as they aren’t a collectable pokémount.

Difference being that it was a mechanic for the area(s). It wasn’t a mount like these people want.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

fellyn.5083:

Oglaf.1074:

Fast Hands: This trait should be built-in to the Warrior class by default, really.

Considering the official site describes warriors as “weapon masters” I agree with that, too.

Especially since you have to spend 15 points for it. It kinda cramps my builds around those 15 points in discipline.

And then there is the fact that adrenaline is the most uninteresting class mechanic out of all the classes. This would help set them apart from other classes even more.

Axe/mace all the way. If you’re duel wielding and a warrior this combo can’t really be beat.

Oglaf.1074:

Fast Hands: This trait should be built-in to the Warrior class by default, really.

Considering the official site describes warriors as “weapon masters” I agree with that, too.

Snoring Sleepwalker.9073:

By making the stats suck, ANET has made it clear that the only people they want buying cultural armor are the people who like its looks and are willing to transmute it onto something with better stats.

How many of you would be happy if the armor is exotic, but exotic with a horrible (for your build) stat combination ?

Make the stats good and ANET has two choices:
– Have the vendors stock a large list, then have to deal with people who accidentally bought the wrong item.
– Divide the people who buy it into groups: Those who like the stats, and those who don’t.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Ah, figures. Well for me I could care less about Ascended. Either way, T3 should be Exotic or Ascended. To have it at Rare is just ridiculous.

Until you start looking at cultural armor as a way to drive sales of transmutation stones. Then giving them lower stats makes sense.
Though I’d have given them level 1 stats, just to make it clear to everyone that you shouldn’t be buying it for the stats.

I agree with this completely. I bought my t3 armor with the idea in mind that I would transmute it onto armor that had the stats on want. And when they release the full sets of ascended armor I will do it again (depending on how the ascended armor looks).

And I haven’t spent a single penny on fine transmutation stones. I have about 15 sitting in my bank just from black lion chests I’ve opened.

ShadowSoljer.6524:

Oh look another portal thread with people that don’t know how to counter portals so they cry to get it nerfed. Whats new?

Gonna go out on a limb here and say you didn’t even bother reading the op, saw it was a thread about portals, and assumed it was a nerf portals thread and instantly hit the qq about anti portal qq button.

RockonHarder.7235:

fellyn.5083:

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

Sadly playing the same servers every week is extremely boring. Will be glad to see Borlis Pass join our tier next week when NSP drops down a spot. Nothing against you NSP guys but time for some new blood in this tier. Too bad our server doesnt have an even average euro presence or this would never be a contest against the current matchups.

Go DB!

Why would you need more people in the time of day when you guys already run the maps with very little resistance? Your comment doesn’t make any sense.

It’s amusing you guys think you’re so much better than DH or NSP. I honestly hope you guys get your shot in tier 4.

I never thought I’d say this but I’m starting to miss our matchups with Maguuma. Yikes.

P.S. Looking at previous matchups not only has Darkhaven spent more time in higher
tiers than Dragonbrand despite DB at one point in time being in tier 3 but out of the 3 previous times we’ve been matched up against them we’ve beaten them twice so far.

P.P.S. I’m not trying to start a pissing contest but lets be a little realistic here. You guys are getting carried by a night time population that takes over the maps that can close a 10000 point gap in as little as 2 hours. Don’t say it didn’t happen because it did this morning in the hours between 6am and 8am. Before this magic hour hit for DB even NSP was out scoring you. Yes. The server you just dismissed as even being slightly competitive against yours.

A little food for thought.

Dude before you start putting out facts make sure you get them right.

For starters DB was a Tier 2 server. And when i say a Tier 2 server not a was up for a single round then got knocked back down. we were up there for a bit before bouncing back down and back up again.

During that time Darkhaven never once ever even showed up on our radar.

Now to defend the comment by my server mate as to why he may have said what he did… Without any nighttime presence no server will ever have any chance of ever making any major movement in the tiers.

this aspect is the very thing that people look for when choosing servers.

Hopefully we can move past all this negativity that seems to be popping up and just get on with the match. NSP seems to be able to hold their head up high. hopefully Darkhaven can learn from this.

See you on the battlefield

When the 1 week matches started DB dropped in the ranks really quickly.

Also, then you need to tell your fellows on DB to cut the negativity then. They are the ones who are claiming they are so much better than us and dismissing their competition as non-factors when they don’t have any right to do that.

So I just thought I’d point out the facts over the last 10 weeks of competition since the 1 week matches started to settle the argument. My intention was not to say we are better than you guys but to say that perhaps some peoples egos on DB are more inflated than they have a right to be.

And those are hard indisputable facts. You can look them up if you want.

It’s worth noting that since our most recent matchups with Maguuma we’ve lost several somewhat large guilds to other servers.

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

Sadly playing the same servers every week is extremely boring. Will be glad to see Borlis Pass join our tier next week when NSP drops down a spot. Nothing against you NSP guys but time for some new blood in this tier. Too bad our server doesnt have an even average euro presence or this would never be a contest against the current matchups.

Go DB!

Why would you need more people in the time of day when you guys already run the maps with very little resistance? Your comment doesn’t make any sense.

It’s amusing you guys think you’re so much better than DH or NSP. I honestly hope you guys get your shot in tier 4.

I never thought I’d say this but I’m starting to miss our matchups with Maguuma. Yikes.

P.S. Looking at previous matchups not only has Darkhaven spent more time in higher
tiers than Dragonbrand despite DB at one point in time being in tier 3 but out of the 3 previous times we’ve been matched up against them we’ve beaten them twice so far.

P.P.S. I’m not trying to start a pissing contest but lets be a little realistic here. You guys are getting carried by a night time population that takes over the maps that can close a 10000 point gap in as little as 2 hours. Don’t say it didn’t happen because it did this morning in the hours between 6am and 8am pst. Before this magic hour hit for DB even NSP was out scoring you. Yes. The server you just dismissed as even being slightly competitive against yours.

A little food for thought.

Bunzy.8674:

Nuzt.7894:

sounds to me like someone who couldn’t cut it in PvP is butt hurt because they can’t sit above killing ppl with no chance to fight back.

sounds to me like someone doesn’t know how to finish the jumping puzzle without getting ported to the end.

I’ve done the jumping puzzle many times. It’s not hard, just tedious. Portals are a time saver and that’s all.

Puddin Cheeks.8539:

Yeah it is laughable that 2 40 man zergs 1 from DH and one from NSP couldnt take our keep in EB from 20 defenders. Good Job on the team work eventually you guys will learn how to fight and not rely on another server.

It is very rewarding that for 2 weeks in a row when you guys team up on us you get shut down.

Dragonbrand 4 Life!

Pretty sure DH won last week.

rchu.8945:

Oranisagu.3706:

I’ll not go into the personal vendetta above, I just wanted to comment on Lucas’ idea:

I’d really prefer a set path for obtaining a legendary over the RNG. random drops should help you cut the path short, even skipping large parts of it (i.e. if you get a precursor), but the path should work without any luck (some people just don’t have it).
right now it’s pretty much a path, only it’s just grind: grind there for several days/weeks, then move on and grind in another area to get your next items on the list. it’s highly random, mostly grind and the only way to spice it up is by grinding in another area and using the money to buy stuff from the tp. your you can (ab)use the tp to make money – at least that’s challenging and takes some intelligence so I’m not entirely against it, even if I don’t like to do it.

If there was a path with elements like:

• escort 50 patrols (there are multiple quests like this all over the world)
• save a 100 villages from destruction
• fight the secret champion mob in the thaumanova reactor (the key would have to be obtainable without luck ofc)
• master dungeon X
• find 20 pages of book Y in the world (fixed location, easy to read up but still fun for people who like scavenger hunts)
• climb the highest mountain
• gather kelp from the deepest abyss

etc it would help get players into all maps, be a real challenge instead of pure grind and most importantly, it would be fun! you could measure your progress and feel like you accomplished something. grinding is a very unsatisfactory way of spending your free time.

I’m all for allowing grind to be a way for getting a legendary, just not the only way. players want alternative ways of accomplishing something. In a highly customizable game (builds, classes, looks etc) there should also be alternative styles of gameplay..

What you want is a “welfare legendary” system, one that guarantees a precursor or a complete legendary (lol?). Sure, I think Anet sure please people like you, but these legendaries should be less flashy than the current ones. In fact, they should look boring but just have a purple text in the item description Why should the current legendary owners go through what they did to get it and see bunch of people just wait in line with some quests following step by step guide to get one so easily?

So because people already have legendaries they should just leave the broken system in place?

You’d think they would be happy because it will be easier for them to get their second, or third. Assuming we can repeat the scavenger quest.

Somewhere out there there is an xzibit meme waiting to be made.

lani.7431:

fellyn.5083:

lani.7431:

fellyn.5083:

lani.7431:

Furey.6734:

ShadowSoljer.6524:

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Grovel, Beg, Push your face in, PvDoor and paranoia about a spy on a voice server. Yep, that’s a whole lotta mud slingin’ goin’ on there.

Fact: your servers primetime is 5am. Enjoy pvdooring against no one.
Fact: You are groveling
Fact: DB has only gotten over 20k points because of your early morning PvDoor masters.

Don’t start getting upset about facts now. I did call them masters after all…

So are you implying that your night crew is useless and doesn’t deserve any credit or acknowledgement of what they do? They are just a door to you? Wow, if that was the case I would jump server immediately. DB always welcomes new players, you guys will be appreciated no matter what if you come over

Coolmoos.8546:

Only reason I like this bracket is because of Rethesis…. Other than that its pretty boring

Actually NSP has shown good skill on tactics, they do need to work on overall strategy. If they had better coverage they definitely belong in a higher tier or 2. I have yet to see anything worth mentioning from DH. All they do is zerg. Either way, being that there server is practically full, I don’t see them moving up a tier because it is harder to keep and get new offtime players.

I would have to agree with this. NSP has shown that they have the best tactics. DH is predictable running in huge zergs, using portal bombs, and golems to get whatever they want. DB spends all of our time defending whatever we can during NA time against high numbers. I do not understand why DH comments seem to butthurt about our oceanic players when essentially I see your server doing exactly what our Oceanics do. I have seen DH take our entire borderlands in 30 mins then move on to NSP I the same amount of time. I think the real winners regardless of the score is NSP.

The only reason DB’s “night capping” was being talked about is because they kept going on about getting double teamed and it had to be explained to them why there was a perfectly logical reason for it. No butthurt involved. Still they persisted in posting about double teams despite the reason why being explained several times in various different ways.

And “lol” at some how trying to spin using siege as some form of a bad thing. It’s kind of there to be used.

You guys honestly think you’re ready for tier 4 and higher? Really? Trying to say DH runs only in zergs. Using portal bombs and siege? Really? You guys literally have no idea what you’ll be facing in tier 4. It’s pretty amusing.

What are you going on about? Your post just makes it seem like you mad. NSP has superior tactics than both DB and DH. Why does this make you so mad?

When did I ever mention NSP not having any of those things you listed? Or even mention NSP at all in that post you quoted? If you’re going to quote me you should maybe read my post first.

I’m not mad and it’s interesting you think that. I would say I’m more shocked and amused at those posts than anything else.

Umm I quoted furey ,Hun

Looks to me like you quoted me to me. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the website bugged somehow.

nalenb.1425:

I don’t get it. DH says DB is a PvDoor server because we have people at night. But in the morning they PvDoor and it’s okay? I was just on DB BL now, and they rolled into our upgraded garrison with about 30 people and a golem against our 4. We lost an upgraded keep in < 3 minutes due to numbers. I just don’t understand how either that’s not PvDoor or that it is somehow okay because it’s during waking ours in EST.

No one has said it’s not okay?

lani.7431:

fellyn.5083:

lani.7431:

Furey.6734:

ShadowSoljer.6524:

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Grovel, Beg, Push your face in, PvDoor and paranoia about a spy on a voice server. Yep, that’s a whole lotta mud slingin’ goin’ on there.

Fact: your servers primetime is 5am. Enjoy pvdooring against no one.
Fact: You are groveling
Fact: DB has only gotten over 20k points because of your early morning PvDoor masters.

Don’t start getting upset about facts now. I did call them masters after all…

So are you implying that your night crew is useless and doesn’t deserve any credit or acknowledgement of what they do? They are just a door to you? Wow, if that was the case I would jump server immediately. DB always welcomes new players, you guys will be appreciated no matter what if you come over

Coolmoos.8546:

Only reason I like this bracket is because of Rethesis…. Other than that its pretty boring

Actually NSP has shown good skill on tactics, they do need to work on overall strategy. If they had better coverage they definitely belong in a higher tier or 2. I have yet to see anything worth mentioning from DH. All they do is zerg. Either way, being that there server is practically full, I don’t see them moving up a tier because it is harder to keep and get new offtime players.

I would have to agree with this. NSP has shown that they have the best tactics. DH is predictable running in huge zergs, using portal bombs, and golems to get whatever they want. DB spends all of our time defending whatever we can during NA time against high numbers. I do not understand why DH comments seem to butthurt about our oceanic players when essentially I see your server doing exactly what our Oceanics do. I have seen DH take our entire borderlands in 30 mins then move on to NSP I the same amount of time. I think the real winners regardless of the score is NSP.

The only reason DB’s “night capping” was being talked about is because they kept going on about getting double teamed and it had to be explained to them why there was a perfectly logical reason for it. No butthurt involved. Still they persisted in posting about double teams despite the reason why being explained several times in various different ways.

And “lol” at some how trying to spin using siege as some form of a bad thing. It’s kind of there to be used.

You guys honestly think you’re ready for tier 4 and higher? Really? Trying to say DH runs only in zergs. Using portal bombs and siege? Really? You guys literally have no idea what you’ll be facing in tier 4. It’s pretty amusing.

What are you going on about? Your post just makes it seem like you mad. NSP has superior tactics than both DB and DH. Why does this make you so mad?

When did I ever mention NSP not having any of those things you listed? Or even mention NSP at all in that post you quoted? If you’re going to quote me you should maybe read my post first.

I’m not mad and it’s interesting you think that. I would say I’m more shocked and amused at those posts than anything else.

lani.7431:

Furey.6734:

ShadowSoljer.6524:

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Grovel, Beg, Push your face in, PvDoor and paranoia about a spy on a voice server. Yep, that’s a whole lotta mud slingin’ goin’ on there.

Fact: your servers primetime is 5am. Enjoy pvdooring against no one.
Fact: You are groveling
Fact: DB has only gotten over 20k points because of your early morning PvDoor masters.

Don’t start getting upset about facts now. I did call them masters after all…

So are you implying that your night crew is useless and doesn’t deserve any credit or acknowledgement of what they do? They are just a door to you? Wow, if that was the case I would jump server immediately. DB always welcomes new players, you guys will be appreciated no matter what if you come over

Coolmoos.8546:

Only reason I like this bracket is because of Rethesis…. Other than that its pretty boring

Actually NSP has shown good skill on tactics, they do need to work on overall strategy. If they had better coverage they definitely belong in a higher tier or 2. I have yet to see anything worth mentioning from DH. All they do is zerg. Either way, being that there server is practically full, I don’t see them moving up a tier because it is harder to keep and get new offtime players.

I would have to agree with this. NSP has shown that they have the best tactics. DH is predictable running in huge zergs, using portal bombs, and golems to get whatever they want. DB spends all of our time defending whatever we can during NA time against high numbers. I do not understand why DH comments seem to butthurt about our oceanic players when essentially I see your server doing exactly what our Oceanics do. I have seen DH take our entire borderlands in 30 mins then move on to NSP I the same amount of time. I think the real winners regardless of the score is NSP.

The only reason DB’s “night capping” was being talked about is because they kept going on about getting double teamed and it had to be explained to them why there was a perfectly logical reason for it. No butthurt involved. Still they persisted in posting about double teams despite the reason why being explained several times in various different ways.

And “lol” at some how trying to spin using siege as some form of a bad thing. It’s kind of there to be used.

You guys honestly think you’re ready for tier 4 and higher? Really? Trying to say DH runs only in zergs. Using portal bombs and siege? Really? You guys literally have no idea what you’ll be facing in tier 4. It’s pretty amusing.

Well said and makes perfect sense.

Ninya.3942:

So this guy is on here saying our server is nothing compared to DB, but all they do is PvD when no one is on to oppose them in any numbers worth a kitten Sounds like a stand up fellow right there. I’ll be glad to be back to facing servers that are not based around late night capping. Have fun getting squashed in the upper tier. From what I’ve seen of your server’s actual strategy when fighting something other than mostly empty fortifications…you won’t stand a chance lol

Unfortunately the projected match up for next week is the same exact match up as this week.

DH v DB v NSP round 3

Ushiromiya Xyrius.1470:

yes, that’s true. So that we can wield a Legendary with pride, different from those who obtain it through shortcuts

And all we need is to “Account bound” those legendaries and some of the req’d mats (not all of them). So we can still buy some and do the hard work to obtain the rest.

and I personally think that the current system of Legendary is meant for people with high resource (either money, or goldsellers). Mere perseverance and skills are far from enough to obtain one of those Legendaries

The current system is likely not going to change any and I don’t know why you think it would.

The only thing they have said they will be doing is putting in some sort of scavenger quest. And they were vague at best about that, too.

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

How long we have to wait for it to be online? The entire project (as i suspect) has been trashed? Just wondering.

The posted about either at the start of this week or at the end of last week and said it likely won’t be in the upcoming December 14th update but would hopefully be in the update after that, which means January.

RumStein.6859:

Haha yeah right Lucas.
The hunt will be for the precursor, and massively increased demand for all T6 mats and lodestones will drive their prices up ridiculously.

Assuming they don’t adjust drop rates for them or put another way to reliably get them in the same update. They have to know that that will be the next complaint they have to deal with after precursors because people are already complaining about them nearly as much as the precursor issue.

Fact is we don’t know what they’re going to do exactly besides that they are going to do something. Pointless to speculate and get all worked up over hypotheticals at this point because (unless I missed it) they have released literally no information on how it’s going to work.