Guild Wars 2

It seems that nobody prest attention to the music of the game here.

Listen to that and you will love the organ sound of the facets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oFGagjD18o

An option for one class? Sure. Have we asked to berserker if they love to have red glow on hands? Have you ask elementalist is they want to havae glowing magic on there hands? I don’t think so. And i don’t know why they are going to add an option for a only class. Moreover they have toons more important work, like fixing bugs and balacing classes.
Keep the glow!

bump this. Warrior need help.

I love all the threads on this forum. Everything is op for everyone, excluding berserker coz the spec is pure garbage.

All you say is rather subjective.
Revenant was designed with legends in mind, every legend having a role and a couple of utilities. I actually love that, that’s the side of the revenant, you don’t choose your utilities. In other hand one weapon per legend is cool and give more focused abilities with the theme of the legend i’m not having any problem with the choice of weapons. Revenant, it’s true, have actually no choice, but it’s not because of weapons or utilites coz this is going (and i hope soo) to never change. But it’s that he is stuck to power build (Shior/glint) because Jalis and Mallyx don’t work well (both legend and talents). When all revenants legends are going to be viable we actually are going to have more choices. Revenant is not a class for everyone, he has near not personnalisation being focused on predetermided role (tank, healer, support, condition) and i think is that’s make the class feel unique. I’m pretty sure people wanting to have more personnalisation are not going to play revenant long term coz it’s not a class designed for that.

For Ventari there is actually complains and yes it don’t work very good, but i think it’s not coz of the trait, it’s because he has no condition cleaning for exemple. The clunky side is real yes, but i suppose it’s normal coz, let’s be honnest, you can’t be fast like the wind when you displace a 2 ton rock. So the changes on ventari must be focused on, giving an option (a trait would be good) for being able to condi cleaning for exemple, and giving a water field instead of a light one (which serve barely to nothing coz it give just zone retaliation when using the elite, zone healing would be better). Ventari is not supposed to be the best healer, druid is. I think ventari is more designed for healing support and long term healing when druid actually can heal so much in one skill, ventari give less healing but on long term when near the tablet, it’s more a team healer. But yeah i’m agree on the op with ventari he need some changes too.

I’m pretty happy with revenants weapons for now and i’m happy too that they don’t have acces to greatsword like guardian and5 can be used and retribution and corruptio traitline need some tweeks. There are toons of bugs, underwater combat broken, to fix too. I’m pretty sure they have rushed the expansion coz they was going out of time.

Kirk.3086:

Please, o great guru, tell me how to play ventari and dwarf, don’t using herald/shiro.
Tell me how to heal under the focus and have so big survivability like a herald + demon with dwarf tree!
If you found only 1 of 3 playable build, its not meaning ,that rev too god with only dmg tree(all working build are herald/shiro, sometimes demon with all his bugs).
It’s funny, but ventari can live only with +1200 vit and +900 toughness amulet, and still too weak then others stances

By getting buffs in thoses legends. I know i don’t know why it’s going to happen, but they can leave us like that, stuck in an only power build. Ventari is okay, but need some improvements like a water field instead of light. But Jalis and Mallyx are terrible. It’s sad.

Since Mallyx isn’t fixed we are gonna to have problems with condition build yes.
Mallyx legend need tweeks on some utilities. Corruption traitline rework on some talents.

I don’t think it’s gonna to work now, before all those traits are working coz you can put conditions on demand on you, now you only have pain absorption and being struck by foes. I think that embrace the darkness need a rework too yeah, but now it seems that Mallyx is mainly condition dealer. I think embrace the darkness could pulse condition yes, but not only torment, why not pulsing random conditions themed to Mallyx? (like burning, torment, poison) randomly? Might be a little strong but i actually love the idea. We can bring back the copy conditions you have on you, but it would work only versus conditions foes, so being more situational.
But i doubt that only a rework on Embrace darkness would bring back old Mallyx, we need altleast changes on corruptions traits, some are very odd and useless now. Coz they was designed with the old Mallyx (condition eater) in mind. Unyielding anguish, i don’t know if it need adjustments.

If hammer gets a nerf it’s only a increase cooldown on coalescence of ruin

Even if i would love longbow and i love fierce. I actually would prefer an elder race or a pnj race legend. We actually have shiro tagashi, imagine how it’s a bit odd to summon him with a charr or a sylvari. Imagine with summoning a charr for a human or a sylvari too. Every playable race have his heroes and don’t seems to be really open to summoning other races heroes. That’s why i think npc races legend would be cool (like glint, ventari, mallyx an jalis thoo). But i’m a charr, i love charr history and i was loving fierce as an heroe in EOTN but if this could be an npc race i think it would fit better. But who can we summon that is not human, norn, charr, sylvari or asura?

They happend that they don’t exist and i don’t think they are going to exist ever. Was a wet dream. I think too much staff for arenanet to do this and give a class a really unique difference, seems a little unfair to other classes. I think for those reasons there is not going to exist ever.

I actually love it too. It was designed with the class since the first BW. I don’t know why they must remove it when they is actually a lot of people who like it. I think it’s pretty usefull too, visually, in pvp or pve to see what legend he is channeling without clicking on his portrait.

Relshdan.6854:

DiogoSilva.7089:

Here’s some comments from Roy’s twitter:

• Underwater skills not saving properly is getting fixed;
• A second underwater weapon will eventually be made;
• No underwater glint “right now, we’ll be looking at adding more uw in the future”.

what kind of horsekitten is that?

love a lot about HoT, but there are so many incomplete/ missing features….pretty clear this expac was completely rushed or they are completely understaffed.

Nice. But i admit i’m not loving if they add a second underwater weapon. i think we don’t need it. I love to be like an engineer and have only one weapon underwater but, instead of harpoongun of engineer which is enterly in range, we have an hybrid contact/range weapon. I really don’t think we need another aquatic weapon.
Would have see a legendary hylek, or largos, or krait legend too, but they don’t exist soo… a pity.

And yes, it’s pretty clear that they have rushed the expansion. I don’t think it’s understaff. They just have announced Heart of Thorns too early, 9 months before, and people are getting impatient because of that, and they have rushed stuff. If they had announced expansion 4 or 3 months before i don’t think the expansion have been rushed.

Another mount thread, like 1000 ones in this forum… youhou!

Can just Arenanet cut this plague by saying no to this a time for all please? We’re not in wow.

Argon.1563:

I think ArenaNet deliberately limited it’s weapon pool, so theres more room for Elite Specializations later on, so it doesn’t end up like Warrior, where it can use nearly all the weapons in the game, leaving very little room for Elite Specializations, meaning they’ll have to go to the trouble of making completely new weapons eventually.

I think it too. I highly doubt they had more weapon to revenant before the next expansion. I myself dont have any problem with the choice of weapons. I actually love the "elite spec’ system that are getting core weapons, every weapon is themed to a legend. I think the “bad” side of the revenant is that he lack personnalisation, it’s not a class for everyone.

Well it was pretty sure that, in a melee meta (reaper, scrapper, thief, revenant,warrior) they warrior is having bad time. But that’s not actually the fact that most classes have turned melee, it’s the fault to berserker spec. Which haven’t be touched since the last beta and which really need buffs to compete with all other elite specs.
Fast hand baseline is needed, a buff to dead or alive is wanted, a increase duration on berserker stance too (15 to 20s), an hammer berserk burst rework. I think that, if they want only that. Warrior is going to be in better state. Could need some tweeks after for sure, but make him better than he is for now, regular core warrior outclassed by all others classes who have turned melee with elite specs.

The thing is that we are not weak to condi. Only on Power build, the only one that is viable now (Shiro/Glint). When Jalis and Mallyx got an overhaul it’s gonna to be better. Jalis has actually good tools to manage condi (rotgd, vengefull hammer, heal) and Mallyx (resistance,heal). When they are gonna to be viable there is not going to have condi weakness.

Doctor.1905:

Adding another legend for underwater combat would be nice as well.

I would be the better thing. At start i have prayed for an underwater unique legend, only usable underwater (other legends can’t be used)with underwater specific utilies.But i don’t think it’s going to be. And if it is what legend would you like to use underwater? No largos hero, no hylek, no krait hero know…
Underwater need bugfixing for now:
-Being able to use all legends underwater
-Remove the second splot of aquatic weapon (spear is hybrid range/contact weapon, very cool even if #2 is broken now)
-Separate slots for underwater, they is actually a problem with legends when entering and go out of water
-Mallyx unyielding still use ancien version, the version i love, but it’s kinda odd to have one version on ground an another in water.

Tipper.6973:

Why are they grunting?

Why not?

Jalis heal don’t give the 2 seconds of retaliation too.

Varezenem.2813:

gannondorf.7628:

Yes that’s the fact. Glint is already the power core of the revenant, she’s the legend that can tank, support and dps. Jalis, who is supposed to be the tank guy, is like a shadow under glint power, he need rework yes, and it would offer more builds that the only power build (shiro/glint) we have for now. Mallyx is not designed to be survivable, only survivable to conditions. He was originaly intended to be the condition eater guy, but after BW2 he is now the condition dealer legend and condition eater one. He is in a strange place when a loot of corruption traits are no more viable and utilies needs a rework coz he lost his identity. But i think it’s not his survivability that we need to buff or rework. Ventari is just for healing, but it’s clunky, you can really use it for yourself, it’s more supportive healing to team. I think he is great, a bit clunky but great, need just a WATER field instead the actual light one.

But yeah, the actual nerf of Glint show to revenants that they have only two viable legends on five and, that they need to adapt coz they can"t really play something else. I’m not really against these nerfs (at last glint’s nerfs) glint was too much survivable for a legend not designed for that. She was actually the survivable legend that Jalis must be.

I am aware of the fact that ventari is only meant for healing but so are druids and they have a far superior self heal. On ventari IMO the HP coefficients should be increased and of course tablet mobility (the largest complaint from the beginning).

Well i find personnaly myself that the heal is good. It’s less than a druid yes but druid was designed for being the healer and, even if it’s hybrid there is just gonna to be a ranger with little healing. Think about revenant they much more versatile, on paper(Glint/ventari, Jalis/Ventari, Shiro/ventari) than druids and rangers so i think this versatility will come with a cost, they are not the best healers. I don’t know if you see what i mean.

Yes that’s the fact. Glint is already the power core of the revenant, she’s the legend that can tank, support and dps. Jalis, who is supposed to be the tank guy, is like a shadow under glint power, he need rework yes, and it would offer more builds that the only power build (shiro/glint) we have for now. Mallyx is not designed to be survivable, only survivable to conditions. He was originaly intended to be the condition eater guy, but after BW2 he is now the condition dealer legend and condition eater one. He is in a strange place when a loot of corruption traits are no more viable and utilies needs a rework coz he lost his identity. But i think it’s not his survivability that we need to buff or rework. Ventari is just for healing, but it’s clunky, you can really use it for yourself, it’s more supportive healing to team. I think he is great, a bit clunky but great, need just a WATER field instead the actual light one.

But yeah, the actual nerf of Glint show to revenants that they have only two viable legends on five and, that they need to adapt coz they can"t really play something else. I’m not really against these nerfs (at last glint’s nerfs) glint was too much survivable for a legend not designed for that. She was actually the survivable legend that Jalis must be.

When Mallyx and Jalis are getting some work there are not going to be condi removal problems coz these two legends, who are underpowered for now, have good deal against condition. Power build (Shiro/Glint) have actually condi weakness yes (even if the nerf of facet of light hit hard). And i think it’s fair. Even like that you already have some sustain and with good timing you can hold conditions a bit (i’m not talking about 5 stacks of burning but that’s the same for everyone).

So according to what it was said revenant is quite easily one of the most popular classes for now (with dragonhunter and reaper). It was pretty sure coz it’s new,it’s fun and berserker elite spec is trash.But i still a bit surprised coz revenant is different from other classes, he has less personnalisation and no racial skills, i would have think that people are loving builds. Would revenant be one of the most played class in some months? We’ll see.

There is no class in any game that deserve 40 pounds! don’t be a sheep. Revenant is a fun class indeed but there is other fun too. The think that revenant has and make him special is the absence of personalisation in utilities. I personnaly never was really involved with builds even in gw1 so it like it but it’s true that you have less option than other classes. But if you want to buy the expansion focus on story, new maps. A class alone never deserve 40 pounds.

RiiSEN.9072:

ITT: Underwater Greatsword

Oh yeah gime please! And after that i would love two handed axe underwater, after all why not.

messiah.1908:

go to learn from thief who also dont have good condi cleanse but stealth
so learn to engage and disengage fast with shiro and heal through with life steal and fast dmg
use your legendary swap, generosity, staff, malyx etc… just time it right and you’ll do fine

This. It ‘s not really a problem for me, even running the only two legends that can be used properly for now (shiro/glint), you already have defensive abilities that can hold conditions. I mainly a learn to play issue. I never understand why, when you give something to someone, they already want more and more. Revenant’s weakness is condition.

Nieguen.6235:

So then you are nearly unkillable? Sure.

This. Give me a finger and i want your arm, classic.
Revenant is designed to be weak to condi. If you play it right it’s not a real problem, and it is going to be less when mallyx get some changes. If you can’t play with condi weakness try another class, like engineer, guardian or warrior.

Seod.7924:

You turn yourself into a avatar of a demon, it should not be taken lightly.

What if Embrace the darkness would pulse a random condition every sec, instead of torment. Might sound OP, but there’s so many conditions, it would be hard to stack the same condi on a single target, however, it would give something else than just torment.

If it’s too strong, you just adjust the interval of the pulse (2 sec instead of 1) or augment the energy cost.

On the other hand, if it’s too weak, you just remove certain condis from the list. Giving more chances of stacking a same condi.

Yes that was a thing i have suggested too. Instead of copying conditions on foes (before the mallyx changes) now you can’t do this coz you can applying condition to yourself now. The thing is that maybe you can do the same but with pulsing random conditions themed with mallyx(poison(medium), torment (long duration), burning(low duration)). Coz he is designed for being a condition dealer now.

This thread again… Can we just play an MMORPG that oustide a bit of meta rpg? Why an MMORPG must have mounts? Is there wow that add this thing in MMORPG games? Mounts serve barely to nothing in gw2. This is already portals, and a charr or a norn mounting something? People who don’t want to try gw2 coz they want mounts, let them don’t play it, they narrow minded. I’m actually very glad to find an MMORPG when i don’t must to ride some odd beast that serve to nothing other than skin. Let gw2 like this.

There is no need for an another aquatic weapon!
Spear is quite hybrid range/contact. I’m pretty sure there is going to only have spear and i’m perfectly fine with it.
We already have other priorities that add kitteneless aquatic weapon, like fixing bugs, underwater and balancing legends for not being struck in power build (shiro/glint).

Khamûl style!

The thing is that berserker is don’t going to be like that forever, it’s impossible it’s too bad compared to other elites. But i don’t know when there are gonna to buff it. I’m a little sad for you guys, even if i never have liked warrior (in fact i really don’t have enjoyed any class in gw2 since revenant) you deserve better.

I took the time for make a post for you guys. Hope it is gonna to be view by someone in arena.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/How-there-is-gonna-to-be-the-time/first#post5686837

…of buffing Berserker spec. Seriously i’m not a warrior player but i have play berseker last BWE. There is nothing different since last beta. When other elite specs seems to have find a right spot (even daredevil, dragonhunter and tempest who was the least loved elite specs) berserker is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar faaaaaaar away from them, and warrior being one of the most played class it’s gonna be a problem. So i know arenanet staff is focused on HOT bugs for now, but have they planned to do anything for the poor berseker? Warrior state is kinda sad for now, when i see one i want to give him a dollar. In pvp there are the trash profession, being surpassed by daredevil, dragonhunter, reaper, scrapper, revenant…
Just to share thoughs. I never have enjoyed warrior has a class but i think they deserve more attention, after all it’s supposed to be a core class to all RPGS. Give them fast hand baseline for not being stuck in discipline and enhance overall berserker traitline. Come on guys!

Well you must wait till berserk rework and buff (and i’m sure there is going to be but i don’t know when).

Embrace the darkness need the condition pulse back. Pulsating pestilence need to be reworked too coz we don’t have other acces to condition now than being struck and use pain absorption. Maybe a chance when struck to spread a mallyx condition to foes (torment,poison, burning). bolstered anguish is now odd too coz we don’t have acces to on demand conditions to empowered ourselves. The remove of displacement effect in downed 2 (now when an ennemy is near a wall it’s impossible to use) and unyielding anguish was pretty sad too. Pain absorption and banish enchantment are okay.Mallyx really need changes, like Jalis (don’t so bad in pve but useless in pve. Inspiring reinforcement useless and ROTGD need instant and stunbreak. His heal need more heal for tanky vibe or give more than 2 seconds of retalition (2 secondes that are bugged for now)Vengefull hammers is a nice skil) and Ventari (at last i can understand than an enormous tablet have a clunky feeling but give him a WATER field instead of light)

Why not legendary Traherne with greatsword use? ( i don’t have really understand if sylvari goes in the mists or in the dream when defeated).

Seriously i would prefer some gw1 character like others one and if possible not a character from playable race but an old race ( A charr channeling shiro for exemple is a bit odd).

Yeah Fast hand baseline, so many people asking for this. With fast hand baseline warrior don’t have to be stuck on discipline and can actually, finally take berserker traitline. Dead of alive need an overall buff yes and i’m too with the increase of duration for 20 seconds.

Kirk.3086:

Too low time. 5 seconds for 50 energy – too much!

It depend, if it’s instant and stunbreak 5 second would be enough to negate a burst i think.

I thank stability would come from inspiring reinforcement. But it need to be reworked. For now it take 2 second to act (the time to the road to be finished) and you need to stand on the brick road for 5 second of stability. Or It must make stability on the road instant after casting the skill or it would be great to add a stability on demand skill like “infuse terror” on reaper shroud. Giving stability for 5,6 or 7 seconds on demand. I think rite of the great dwarf is nice but it need to be instant and stunbreaker for counter burst (i think it was supposed to do that initially) and so, a little increase to cd. But yeah i’m agree with you on that point. Jalis need more acces to stability and retaliation, two boons designed to give a tanky feeling.

Well the thing is that you don’t have really defensive tools. Jalis is supposed to be the tank but it’s a shadow compared to glint who has the best heal in game, and sustain with shield 4 heal and protection and shield 5 block. So just take Herald with Shiro and take retribution trait line and invocation (those 2 have defensive traits). It’s the best you can do for now, waiting for a true tank legend.

PS: Jalis has acces to stability and retaliation but in very little number, near invisible. Retribution traitline is, in fact more effective than the legend itself for now.

If you really want tanky plate go guardian. Revenant are not going to be at the same defensive level than guardian never.

Well Jalis is supposed to be the tank here but it’s not. If you want something to tank go Herald with shield but there was a nerf today so you will have less sustain that before.

I actually make a post for suggesting some mallyx and jailis changes:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Mallyx-and-Jalis-improvements/first#post5676038

Jailis need better acces to stability (road is clunky and take time to finish and pulse stability, we need to stay on it for getting stab too), better acces to retaliation, maybe with increasing retaliation time on healing or changing the stability dodge trait with retaliation one, ROTGD instant and stunbreak for counter burst (i suppose that it was designed for that).

Mallyx in other hand has past to condition eater to condition dealer and near all talents have stay like this. So there are for most not really appropriate, odd. The legend himself has lost his identity becoming something with no clear role.

Ventari tablet is too clunky, and need acces to water field instead of light field.

Would be super cool for an engineer!! I want it!

It seems that there is range problems too, when you run and use hammer 3 there is a largest range that the skill has and when you use it, with green circle, it say you that it’s too far.

We made Roy aware of these after BWE3.

Yeah but it seems nothing has changed from BWE3, only one retribution GM trait.

You already forgot to write about Jalis and Mallyx, two legends who need changes and overall buffs. Balancing legends would be a priority too.

Burtnik.5218:

gannondorf.7628:

Maybe that would help devs to move a bit for making legends useless, usefull.

Or just nerf our olny 2 viable legends to make other 3 looks good. After all if Shiro and Glint will sux, all legends are all gonna be in “good” place right? One will equally sux to another one.

It’s possible too yeah but i want to keep the faith.

Vegito.3048:

gannondorf.7628:

Vegito.3048:

Revenant drops to any real sustained condi pressure as shiro heal doesn’t help with condis and infuse the light only helped you for 4 seconds. The pvp meta doesn’t have THAT many condi-users and there are a lot of bunkers right now due to the addition of the minstrel’s amulet which allows revenant to thrive.

Seriously, get hit by a few condis in a teamfight and you’re basically forced to disengage because of how atrocious revenant is at dealing with condis. When Mallyx was worth taking, the resistance was good at dealing with them but Mallyx was changed to being useless and now the only other good legends are being nerfed.

Let the balance train continue. lol

Yeah. I’m rather happy, it seems that, with this nerf, people are seeing that actually the two viable legends on the five are just shiro and glint and that, over those two legends, revenant has barelly nothing.

That’s a rather convoluted way of thinking. Nerf the only two legends that are viable in pvp so that we can see the other legends aren’t good?

That aside, I just wanted to mention that jalis is quite good in pve.

No, the fact is that now that the two legends who are good have being nerfed, people are going to see how they count for the revenant and the difference with the three other legends (well ventari, even if it’s need some tweeks is situationnal by nature coz it’s pure healing) and are going to write about how bad are Mallyx and Jalis compared to the great shiro tagashi and the wonderfull Glint. Maybe that would help devs to move a bit for making legends useless, usefull.

Jalis can work in pve yes, it can work in pvp too. But the think is that he can clearly do better. He absolutly not have the tanky vibe he must have. Even with the nerf Glint is staying more tanky than him. Jalis need, and can be improved.

Vegito.3048:

Revenant drops to any real sustained condi pressure as shiro heal doesn’t help with condis and infuse the light only helped you for 4 seconds. The pvp meta doesn’t have THAT many condi-users and there are a lot of bunkers right now due to the addition of the minstrel’s amulet which allows revenant to thrive.

Seriously, get hit by a few condis in a teamfight and you’re basically forced to disengage because of how atrocious revenant is at dealing with condis. When Mallyx was worth taking, the resistance was good at dealing with them but Mallyx was changed to being useless and now the only other good legends are being nerfed.

Let the balance train continue. lol

Yeah. I’m rather happy, it seems that, with this nerf, people are seeing that actually the two viable legends on the five are just shiro and glint and that, over those two legends, revenant has barelly nothing.