Guild Wars 2

Mortar stability is different..

a thief can steal it and get 2 mins of free stab, but while on mortar, you can still get feared off

Thank you

Romek.4201:

all this ai mobs will drop lootbags in spvp

you won me over with this!! i would love to get a precursor from a flesh golem! <3

Turn PvP into PVE aint that right spirit ranger?

lately there are more pets than players, gotta wonder how Anets feels about this Esports PVP

lol I got an idea…

Lets NERF everything good about the game!!

without a game, people wont have anything to QQ about

If you’re aming for a power build.. you should try getting some more Crit Dmg in there

HGH + Power builds is not that great for that reason, low Crit dmg

rogerwilko.6895:

Soon.5240:

Engineers shine at level 80. Until you reach that level, don’t judge them.

Why? What happens at 80 that does not happen at 65 ?

the Enginner grows his first chest hair

as rewards of big tournaments! only

Anything to make it as exclusive as possible and reward skilled players!! It would make people want to do organized tourneys, stay in trams and would keep patticle effects controlled!

Imagine PvP if everyone could get legends on achiments! lol would have to rename the game to “Troll Wars 2” and meta would shift from condi to lag spikes!

Thief shortbow does poison field and have unlimited blast finishers

S/D Ele have fire fields and #2 blast finisher (as awkward as it is to use that skill)

but real talk, how can you name a skill flame “Blast” and not make it a blast finisher lol they could add a condition like it has to end naturally(not detonate) for it to be a blast finisher

and smoke field on #5 is dreamy!! would be the funniest things fighting D/P thiefs lol

• Pistol is used because static shot is amazing , you can use shield and double sigils

• People dislike rifle’s hipshot animation

if anet were to add a decent 1 handed weapon, people might stop using pistol anymore

Play style classes break down

Mesmer

• Follow the Anets custom made combos and win (shatter).

Thief

• Spam the recently buffed skill till enemy dies(2222,3333)

Warrior

• extremely straight forward, cd up ? use skill, then auto attack(1,2,3,4,5)

Ranger

• Survive long enough for AI to kill

Ele

• Follow a set of rotations

Necro

• condi > fear > /laugh <3

Engineer

• lots of key smashing and clicking
• no premade combos and highly customizable
• highly reactive
• most fun out all classes
• lots of skills and key smashing! (Up to 34+ if you run kits)

all classes are good, Enginner Just require a bit more work and quick reaction, we do have some of the strongest DSP as well as bunkers/support, we can do about everything other classes can, you just need to be creative and enjoy button smashing but overall, Enginner is the most fun class

anyone is a sitting duck if they go up on the enemy’s face without condi clear, learn to position where you can’t be focus like cutie and go in only for the kill, most Mesmers burst, dodge back once and expect to be safe.

lol true… it’s There but no body specs for it, and if you get killed by plague form… it’s pointless to continue this convo :/

stealth has a duration limit, I think it’s like 11s

Mesmers just haven’t..

• Learn to play the meta, play like cutie instead of trying to be all up on their faces(condi classes will target Mesmers first)

• Abuse daze/cc spam.. nether necro/engi(main condi classes) have stability

• Mesmer has the nastiest boon removal ingame, incorporated in one of the nastiest burst in the game

• Bring null fields lol it’s pretty troll on this meta since condi builds deal really low damage and don’t have much CC

yah lol and trust me, once you have hundreds of chest to do it to.. you’ll feel the pain, it’s actually pretty bad for the hand, and even 100ths of chest will only get you a couple of dyes which might be worth nothing

it’s different tho, you can earn karma throught anything, and you’re earning gold as you do so, and even on karma chest is a double click spam

with PvP you have to double click chest, double click salvage, and do that to the 4 pieces you get while having to convince that kitten thing that “you’re sure you want to salvage”, then double click on each of the four infrididents to make the dye, and then forge and open it

it takes at least 18 clicks just to salvage 1 chest, that’s not even adding the MF process which is another 9 clicks. and it requires you to constantly move with the mouse, imagine doing that hundreds of times :/

and very very few dyes are actually worth money, on avg you could be making 14c – 30s per dye ( unless you’re blessed and get celestial/abyss)

lol what I’m trying to say is… making dyes for gold on PvP requires an absurd amounts of time and insane ammounts of clicking. Which are bad for your hands health wise. and unless you’re blessed, it won’t be worth it

and hopefully something like that happens, PvP rewards are pretty non-existe and without anything to show it making everything feel like a waste of time, specially when you try to transition to PvE,WvW and realize that after hundred/thousands of hours, you got nothing…

we need something like Z-Chest/HA Chests, you felt rewarded just by looking at how many of those you got on a day, and the you could gamble or sell it for a little cash, and HA chest was amazing, allowing players to acquire unique skins and the reward felt right considering how much work it was needed to get there

Osi.3504:

Spvp you can use glory to buy items to salvage then craft dyes for money.

dyes for money ? oh man… you must really hate your wrist

Thief are immune to 2 conditions : )

1. Chill for stated reasons
2. Blind (barely noticible unless its on CnD)

swinsk.6410:

Thief blind doesn’t need nerf. It’s part if our defense. We don’t have endure pain or mist form or elixir s, etc. All we got is blinds and stealth and evades. All which can be countered, unlike a endure pain or mist form, etc.

L2p or nerf it and give thieves invulns.

you do realize those skills last for 3-4s right ? :/ and have long cool downs ? or that spammable stealth, blinds, and evades is far better than a 3s invul on a 60s cd :S

and blind is fine as it is, before the change it wasn’t notice, now it’s doing its Job and its no where best as strings as gw2, then again.. u could rupt on gw1! God… I miss my rupts

100nades died back in feb
R.I.P

if you want the best damage runes tho, go with scholar

Warrior’s long bow is an actual weapon, FT is an utility skill…

but yea, Blast finisher on #2 makes too much sense, it needs to happen

Yamsandjams.3267:

Maiden England.3491:

lol it only works on unaware players. either ones that are looking at someone else in a zerg, or one you just happen to catch off guard. in 1v1s and small fights people almost ALWAYS dodge it right when they notice so they dont get pulled.

You can actually use that to your favour. If you force them to dodge your magnet, that’s a dodge they can’t use against a blowtorch, net shot, prybar, &c. Granted magnet can be good for a combo set up, but if your build is completely reliant on it, then you’ll have to use it more carefully. A good way to ensure it lands is to force them to use up their dodges before attempting a magnet pull, or anticipating the use of their heal skill and ripping them out of it.

Magnet is about the easiest skill to cancel.

See them dodge > Cancel > Try again in 5s

Spam/cancel if if you’re feeling like a troll, it’s hilarious against engi!

“wouldnt be shocked if the unbalancing was unbalanced.”

lmfao, Quote of the day <3

Mystirious Voice : Children, time to reveal the “TRUTH”… Listen carefully and remember these words.

PLAYERS LOVE THE QQ! Even on the perfect game, ppl will still QQ about something, and if they can’t, they will QQ about the game being too perfect, without QQ.. the… forums… would… be… boring...

Thank you

swinsk.6410:

“Reason condi thieves are terrible is because they don’t have access to burning”.

terrible argument… lol thief just don’t use condi covers like vul, cripple, etc to hide their dots if they could hide ’em bleeds they could be stronger..

Burning is strong tho, the difference between necro and engi burning is that necros can fear and disable players, engineer running condi builds don’t really have any CC

Next level play
If you learn to bounce people off the air, you can fully kill players on low HP from fall damage.. (Warning: it’s 8/10 on the troll scale)

TROLLEMANCER!: Continue trollin even after Dhumfire nerf

Traits
20:(VI / VIII)
20:(IV / IX)
0
0
30:(VI / IX / XII)

Weapons

• Staff with Sigil of Geo
• Axe Sigil of Air / Dagger any Sigil

Skills

• whatever you want… works with pretty much anything

Amulet(PvP)

• Carrion Amulet with Rampagers Jewl

Runes

• Runes of the thief (rune of the necro or mix if you feel you need longer fears)

instructions

1. Apply conditions
2. 2 + Doom and spam 3-4k+ Life blasts (Make sure you’re on axe)
3. Watch enemy die
4. /laugh

FAQ

• Why axe instead of scepter ?
  Use axe to quickly generate life force as well as get the 20%+ damage buff. make sure you’re on axe set when you go on DS (20% affects life blast dmg)
• Why name build “TROLLEMANCER”?
  Because you can down people in 1 fear chain
• Does this work on tPvP ?
  Yes(Disclaimer: you need to at least need to know the necro basics)
• What are some strategies to troll ?
  Place marks near but not in the middle of fights and fear/grasp someone to them and spam life blast

yah lol eura proved me wrong! Best ranger NA so gotta believe him..

never said all ;)
and they lose DPS, I might be wrong but you can’t attack while you dodge, double check that for me please ?

not sure what you mean on second paragraph, sorry :/

yes, there are a lot more different traits, also engineer are more active with their skills and utilities (specially if you run kits) and even the way they use skills is different.

sleep time tho, night

Zenith.7301:

google.3709:

Not allowing a player to spam the same skill twice is cripping build diversity… interesting

Funny, this already happens with Heartseeker, which at 50% health does more damage than a raven’s slash.

Thief are special tho, spamming 222 and 3333 is there by Design

thats true, but o get swiftness you need to go into a kit(every 5s), to get vigor, you need swiftness(5s) and such, traits have a perquisite or condition that needs to be filled with an action

Lots of warriors traits don’t have this, they are based around damage increase, decrease cool down and require minimal direct action from the player to meet the requirement. same with utilities, they are more focus around boosting, and don’t require as much active play.

It is easy tho, ranger get 50% on a 5 point trait on a popular tree, and warriors on signet of stamina(which active effect removes all condis), like I said, they can get it if they equip for it, people might not like warnhorn, but it does offer both AoR swiftness and vigor, also there are runes which can give these boons, they just need to be spec for(if the player wants them.)

and smh..

“Damage mitigation via armor is negatable and doesnt matter”

I’m guessing you believe all classes take the same damage

“the way a class works should not matter”

If the way a class works shouldn’t matter then why should a warrior get swiftness ? vigor ? Because he plays melee ? well.. every class on this game has options to play melee

lol

• to put it simple; warriors have high armor and hp, they can take damage much better than squisher classes and don’t need to dodge as often ( also, it cuts their DSP if they are dodging all the time)

• Warriors might not have the most sources to swiftness, but they have the most movement skills in the game

If immobilize is becoming a problem, put 10 points into invention and get “Cloaking Device” you will love this trait

Also, T-Turret is really situational on a long cd, I would recommend bringing “Flame Thrower” instead, you get a push/interrupt on a short CD, #2 can deal great dmg once you learn to use it and #5 can be used to safely stomp most classes. (Don’t auto attack it flame thrower tho, it’s mostly for utility)

why not ? If a melee fighter was dodging too much, they wouldn’t be dealing damage, that’s probably why they have different damage mitigation mechanics such a higher armor/health and evade on weapons. and if needed, they classes have easy access to 50% endurance ragen which can’t be removed, as well as large vigor/swiftness up time if they equip for it

and yes, warrior is a passive class with most traits having passive effects and utilities being more fucus around boosting.

trying to use the same skill consecutive more than once is spamming it twice :)

but yea, skills of the same name share a cool down to prevent spam, otherwise everyone would be running x2 blur frenzy or double marks, and considering not many pets share the same f2, it probably wasn’t worth the time to make an exception from a coding type of view

Not every class works the same way, if you think about it. Engineer is suppose to be a close-mid range fighter, but they don’t have perks like heavy armor or evade on weapons.

The engineer is a highly active/reactive class, in order to gain swift/vigor, an engi has to go into kits every 5s, as well as make sure to dodge right, while classes like warrior and ranger are more passive and considerably more forgiving.

Not allowing a player to spam the same skill twice is cripping build diversity… interesting

well… when you put a 3s+ stun on a 7-10s cd… it’s a little bit expected lol

you can always troll warriors with blind spam ;D

12k is low, you can go as high as 20k on PvP

spam camping people and also, 1 shorting people with kill shot at max range <3

and the templates are in the horizon!

But would 1 min be enough time to set up strategic counters ?
or
maybe increasing the time but make the “Ready” Button more intuitive to use? (Very few seems to use it), make it a 1 time pop up in the middle of the screen? any thoughts ?

Don’t think of rifle as a main dmg source but a control weapon, it excels at setting up combos!

1. Does great dmg and pierces at good distance
2. Simply… amazing for setting up combos… one of he funniest ones is Big old bomb and then net them and drop bombs at their feet lol
3. This is best used at the end of your rotation as a burst skill
4. Love this skill, the fast cast time makes it extremely easy to interrupt skills, you can easily control the position of your enemy, even on down state and it disables them for a long time…
5. Mobility or burst, this skill is good at both. Specially if you land both

some combos I enjoy are..

• Net shot, nade/bomb them.
• Magnet pull + Jumpshot; Both hits will land
• Magbet pull + Overcharged(on opposite direction); move enemies 1,800+ and place them wherever you want, even around corners

Next lvl ones..

• Net shot + sharpel granade + (Sigil of Geomancer) + Blunderbuss; 10-13 bleeds in less than 1s
• Big ol’ Bomb + Net shot(on the direction u want then to get knocked back) + any DSP.. free dmg, panic, long disable and send then flying on the direction you want(u can also position yourself where he’ll land and take advantage of the KD)

Walorx.5129:

I’ve been a coach for 2 SOAC profession tournaments for engineers (won 1st with my lineup last time), and I used to be the leader of an all-engineer team before they got nerfed to hell (My team name was Care Package Inbound (CPI)). Anyhow, if you ever need help making this team, feel free to ask me for advice because it’d be great to see a solid 5 engi team again!

-Vöz

or you can ask me, I’m his father

Dirame.8521:

google.3709:

sorrow.2364:

google.3709:

Perma evade steath spamming BM Rangers new meta!!! <3

I think you meant thief.

no lol rangers are getting 3s stealth on a 12s cd(9 if trained)

and yah lol people are gonna use LB for sure!!

• BM, stealth while evades on s/d recharge and pet attacks.
• Spirit Ranger, Stealth and good lucky targeting the ranger in the middle of ip to 4 spirits and a pet lmao

This is gonna be all troll <3

Rangers are meant to be backpoint holders in most team comps and Stealthing is pretty much giving the cap away for free. Therefore no one in their right mind would actually play LB as a Backpoint holder.

they are also amazing at pushing and contesting far point, also, they can use stealth to simply force enemy to lose target and then they are forced to manually click the spirit ranger in the middle of all the spirits.. kinds like Mesmer and illusions, they don’t need to be on stealth for long to troll

ronpierce.2760:

It’s all overshadowed by the DS nerf. No more forever falling and living with DS or escaping boss 1 hit kills with it. It’s a sad day.

yah lol but still, having to go 20 points into death magic for greater marks is gonna suck. not ever dying from fall dmg was always fun tho

sorrow.2364:

google.3709:

Perma evade steath spamming BM Rangers new meta!!! <3

I think you meant thief.

no lol rangers are getting 3s stealth on a 12s cd(9 if trained)

and yah lol people are gonna use LB for sure!!

• BM, stealth while evades on s/d recharge and pet attacks.
• Spirit Ranger, Stealth and good lucky targeting the ranger in the middle of ip to 4 spirits and a pet lmao

This is gonna be all troll <3

Perma evade steath spamming BM Rangers new meta!!! <3

lol Ron… This thread is gonna get buried once people start QQ about stealth spamming BM rangers! xP

Warriors need more survival, a net gives them more dmg
Rangers need more dmg, anet gives them more survival (stealth)

oh yah… greater marks nerds was kinda hash..my perma fear build got a huge buff

gotta love these drunk balance changes <3

you need over 100% duration for condi to be applied

so a counter build to a meta is bad for the game ? :| Thats the kind of silly comments that makes people wanna prove you wrong just because.

if you try it forreal you will see AR is really situational and not all that great, play it for one night and you’ll find yourself taking it out your build in no time ;p it only works against noobs :)

the thing is.. if he had been using rabid, terror or corropt boom, the fight would have ended alot sooner and there wouldn’t be an argument since he bills was dealing soo much less dmg than average necros.

and I’m here for 2 reasons

1. I’m out the country and the forums can be entertaining if I’m not doing anything (aka if I get bored and feel like arguing :p oops)
2. cause you guys try too hard, which makes it kinda fun..

if there was valid arguments and actual facts, people might actually agree but when you bring up things such as;

• d/d power necros can’t kill engi because they can’t snare them once they hit 25%(4k-5k hp)
• 3 condi clssss can’t kill an engi sitting on less than 4k hp,
• an engi can sit on less than 4k hp and live forever( and imply it’s even viable on PvP)

you can trait with AR to be strong vs a specific build, but it will only be strong against that build and that build only, that’s why very few players run it, and u ask if no one runs it, why do we care if it gets nerfed ? well.. we can ask you the very same thing, no one runs it, so why do you want it to get nerfed ??

if it wasn’t for the “immune” people wouldn’t even notice since engi using AR will die just as fast, you just happened to have a bad experience one time and now you are overdoing it. and people are just “taking advantage of it”

For the record… the change you’re offering would be an incredible buff, way better than the real AR and a bit OP, full condi clear, 8s immune to condi, long protection on a 40s icd? Im sure everyone would love it!! but you 2 make toooo easy and fun so people continue to argue just because :p

Ps: don’t try getting someone else’s class just because a bad experienced, that’s just bad.. ignore that 1 seldom time or learn to play around it, if it is a real issue, it will pop up as a real issue, most people are just here to prove YOU wrong just because