Guild Wars 2

sir, you are a carebear.

im level 31 fractals on my engi with ~60 extra pristines (dont really care for further progress, running 26 and or 30 once a day was more than enough time in there and no motivation to go higher)

i run rampager armor + celestial trinkets
i could get more out of my runes, but i like centaur in wvw and wouldnt give that up just for fractals (example… condi duration runes)
build is 30/10/0/10/20, grenades primary focus, static discharge secondary
food: mf or ghost pepper popper + maintenance oil

other advice i can give for fractals:
carry both a rifle and p/s
elixir r
toolkit pull once in a while
find a guardian to run with and the rest of your party comp doesnt matter

truly

/singed

/151515

poor communication has been a trademark of wvw. wouldnt be too surprised about the things theyve never heard.

seems to be changing.

what do you want him to say? there isnt a sufficient bug reporting system / interdepartmental communication has been absent? that habib never bothered looking at the forums except to suit immediate announcements that he was probably told to post by his boss’s boss? there isnt really a nice way to put it. stop looking a gift horse in the mouth and accept that its getting better!

wvw didnt have devon before now, thats how

yay!

if you are currently carrying 15 supply and pick up a yak dropping that has supplies, you suddenly have 10 supply instead

its a pretty old bug and i dont know how it interacts with the guild claim buff or the rank traits

can you do something about it resetting your maximum supply to 10 when you pick it up while holding 15?

itt: op gets rebuked and trolled until the answer hes looking for pops up and he lists it 2nd in a pathetic attempt to force a confirmation bias.

no.

great, having 5 trebs hit the walls while a zerg spams /sleep on the outside wont contest the objective.

yeah, thats not an actual attack. just a fake. go back to LA, nothing to see.

Josh Foreman.8250:

4. that was just a brutal, happy accident that we all liked. That’s how the plants in the kingdom of fungus eat. They need the delicious minerals in the metal of the keys to survive. It’s the circle of life. … And it moves us all…

+1 made my day

dont count on it being account bound.

since your so averse to choosing 1, put the gold towards gear/skins instead.

hi dank were coming for u

to place things like that, stand outside of the safe zone and throw it.

do you want them to extend the siege lock to outside the throwing radius for invulnerable spots or something?

Pendragon.8735:

insanemaniac.2456:

dont waste laurels on 4 stat infusions
ever
ever

4 stat infusion costs 5 laurels. An ascended ring costs 30 and only gives you 21 stats over exotic. Seems the infusion is the better buy actually. Sure the gold and magic find is worth more budget wise, but some people don’t need more gold.

dont buy a ring with laurels
ever
ever

destructible walls also eat grenades

…really really annoying.

team sheen? forget that. its TIER sheen. t7 is winning this thread.

hard reset would not have fixed anything.

Nuzt.7894:

This is what happens when someone wakes up with an idea and doesn’t think it through. I would be firing someone right about now if they didn’t have a presentation on how this would work long term.

wtf?
it isnt meant to be long term, devon has stated its a bandaid while they look at things.

read the dev posts in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Confirmation-from-new-WvW-Staff-on-T8/first

oh wait. nvm. you posted in there. keep trolling. 9/10, got me.
you just want people to suffer in the status quo. idk why.

dont waste laurels on 4 stat infusions
ever
ever

why would you ever bother using purity while leveling when you can cap out a minor/major bloodlust sigil and 2 shot low level mobs? purity is not good for use while leveling.

409 is burstable as well, you can get multiple removals from multiple cds. it may average to 1 per 20-30 (and im pretty sure its more like 4-6 every 20-30 in any decent build), but you have the choice to wipe yourself clean the instant you get condi nuked rather than having to wait for them to drop off.

Phineas Poe.3018:

Lupanic.6502:

Removing one condtion every 10sek does not help you build that much.

Anyone who has leveled a Guardian is probably burying their head in their hands right about now.

what

guards use this while leveling cuz it fills your hp from like 25%, not for the condi removal

who gives a kitten about the condi removal, its just bonus tacked on to the strongest (or 2nd) burst heal

Isaac.6041:

It would have made more sense to just switch Sorrow’s Furnace and Gate of Madness manually. Now you have 600 extra rating points floating around. 24 × 1500 + 600.

Are you going to subtract 600 some day?

its called a bandaid cuz its temporary

Kay.5416:

I’m confused by this WZ@ET stuff. I have seen the guild over on ET when we were fighting them, we smashed them along with everyone else. I figured it was just a coincidence.
I’m a part-time member of WZ@FC, I asked on the guild chat regarding this and got a giant “meh” in response. Which I guess is a pretty good response rather than a “muahahah yes we are plotting against them!”

probly cuz its a bunch of guild drama that people dont wanna talk about

complaints of skill lag abound tonight.

someone doesnt read the forums much…

i never thought id see the day the matchup thread wasnt sf/et/fc

Grezko.7950:

insanemaniac.2456:

Spread it out a little more so theres ~40-50 rating between each server on average. i think thats about right for the system as it is. the current amount of 60-70 is too much and starts having problems w/ isolating tiers from each other.

A 50k gap on reset is in the initial proposal although on observation of the results anywhere from 30k to 50k will shake the things the first few weeks.

not exactly. coupled with each 50 point gap are 2 0 point gaps.

try baklava /1515

i think im going to miss filthy :’(

dr didnt exactly get out of t8 on their own merit… fc also abandoned our borders that week as a christmas present. we were able to hold on to it for pretty much as long as we wanted, but the people doing a lot of the heavy lifting back then got tired of it.

kain… definitely stomped out on their own.

this thread certainly exploded into a lot of indignant t7 responses. cmon yall, sf deserves a chance at not roflstomping someone for once.

an average 17 point rating gap between all servers would make things far too volatile for anets (or players) liking. blowouts would result in servers jumping/diving 2-3 tiers, which is a bit more than youd want.

spread it out a little more so theres ~40-50 rating between each server on average. i think thats about right for the system as it is. the current amount of 60-70 is too much and starts having problems w/ isolating tiers from each other.

to make this a permanent solution instead of a bandaid, also code in a hard cap and floor to rating so ratings cant spread apart too far and lock matches. automate the soft resets to occur any time a 200+ gap appears between 2 servers. suddenly no more complaints about the system.

Fuzzion.2504:

I think T8 should be left alone. It offers those using 3133ghz intel Pentium 1 with SVGA 16 bit cards with 56k dialup modems a chance to fight in WvW

you mistake t8 for t7.

just use grenades instead, they do like 3x the flamethrowers damage

:/

and if you can see the rams through the gate you can hit them with grenades

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

In order to trigger the fights you’ll need the “Mission Control” permission. This is can be given to any rank by visiting the the ranks tab of the guild panel.

i definitely do not have mission control in my guild and have initiated many a fight since i have a commander hat and normally tell people “come to me” after one of our guildies locates himself and the bounty.

i cannot start a bounty hunt. i can definitely start the fight.

FilthyRat.4652:

Dark Omens.5768:

Filthy and I dislike eachother strongly but seem to agree on this. +1 filthy

I don’t dislike anybody – I’m just a white trash hero trying to fulfill my destiny…nothing more nothing less.

Except Muary Povich….that girl just had 15 dudes tested for paternity and you are trying to console her telling her she is good person when there isn’t a match. KITTEN you Maury, Kitten you!!!

lol what did i just read

look an unforeseen side effect of taking away LoS requirement on a skill that arcs

cute

Kay.5416:

So uh. I’ve been kind of distracted by the shiny that is the Adventure Box. I’m going to shake my sudden addiction to these bauble-things and go back to looking for badges, though!

Maybe with an awesomely ugly-neat new staff skin so you guys can have an easy target.

ive decided to grind a full set of super weapons for my mesmer >.>
like… 1 (or 2) of everything mesmer can equip
yeahhhhh

the water is lava

dont stand in it

Pyroatheist.9031:

insanemaniac.2456:

otherwise you introduce inflation into a practically zero sum system.

Hm, I didn’t actually think of that. A solution to that without resetting all of the tiers would be to simply subtract a flat score from every single rating not in t8 to balance out the points added by the t8 reset.

The t8 reset probably wouldn’t fix the problem permanently, over time it would become unbalanced again, so monthly or bi-monthly resets would be necessary. However, putting a system like this into place avoids the need to completely retool the current rating system.

Edit: It’s not exactly a 0 sum system. It is, however, pretty close, so some sort of overall reduction in the scores would be necessary to avoid inflating it over time.

that is called a soft reset

Pyroatheist.9031:

insanemaniac.2456:

Pyroatheist.9031:

azizul.8469:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Having the winner of t8 move up and the lower of t7 would fix it, but it would be a really clumsy fix. Resetting the points of t8 once a month or something would let the glicko system work the way it is designed to without the disruption that continual downwards and upwards swapping would be.

Edit: @azizul: That would be unnecessary and extremely disruptive for every single tier except t8. That is probably why they deleted your thread.

a fresh restart without disrupting the balance in strength would be nice…. remember, they planned to reset the points for every server to the default 1500 but later cancelled it because they realized that it would disrupt the balance , i guess a reset would still be good but let the tiers separated by some points (servers in each tier will get same starting points)

again, we haven’t had a point reset after the free transfer ended. it’s now or never….

The thing is, it isn’t necessary. The reason for a point rebalancing is to break out of stale matchups that have stagnated due to point disparities. All of the matchups in the NA tiers are dynamic and changing, with the exception of t8. There is no stagnation that such a reset would fix. The only tier that desperately needs that sort of reset is t8.

i dont think you understand what a soft reset is…

it would get rid of the stagnation in t8 without disrupting any other matches

@aziz: really sad to hear that thread is deleted. maybe theyre trying to get rid of any kind of trail in prep for yoinking the idea? personally i wouldnt care. just use the kitten idea already. its kitten good.

My original post has the solution being resetting just t8, if you had actually read it. The idea that aziz was proposing was doing the reset to all of the tiers, and that would be unnecessary.

actually, resetting all the tiers IS necessary. otherwise you introduce inflation into a practically zero sum system. i did read your post. strictly messing with one part of the system as you propose is a shortsighted bandaid that wont actually do anything to permanently fix the problem at hand.

Wanderer.3248:

NSP would give SF more than a run for its money. GoM probably would too. And whichever T7 server went to T8 would be just as bad for T8 as SF is.

hi. here is a counterargument:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/FC-ET-SF/page/3#post1749947
the poster was a visitor to fc from fa

can you please get over the population stompfest argument? its tired and most likely untrue.

as for a bandaid solution… i think anet can code a real solution quick enough to make a bandaid unneeded. the real question is if they have acknowledged a problem exists.

XxNuggetxX.7823:

It’s been very educational with you [VK] here and we have learned much thanks for giving us the opportunity to learn.

Biggest Problem is (no offence, I’m glad you came. It’s not directed at you) VK came down for a week but Agg and maybe FOE are here to stay . We will do our best to put FC in the running but we really we haven’t had any real permanent guild transfer’s have we :\ . I have seen a drastic improvement in our FC skill and communication but is it enough to offset the 5v1 outnumbering from sf and now close to 3-3.5v1 from ET and a couple Ex T1 guilds?

EDIT: this is not a stab at the number’s. I’m just stating that ET benefited from this “free transfer” thing much more than we did when it comes to permanent transfers

i believe we did pick up LAW for keeps, however the leader refused to participate in the serverwide infrastructure for no reason

Pyroatheist.9031:

azizul.8469:

Pyroatheist.9031:

Having the winner of t8 move up and the lower of t7 would fix it, but it would be a really clumsy fix. Resetting the points of t8 once a month or something would let the glicko system work the way it is designed to without the disruption that continual downwards and upwards swapping would be.

Edit: @azizul: That would be unnecessary and extremely disruptive for every single tier except t8. That is probably why they deleted your thread.

a fresh restart without disrupting the balance in strength would be nice…. remember, they planned to reset the points for every server to the default 1500 but later cancelled it because they realized that it would disrupt the balance , i guess a reset would still be good but let the tiers separated by some points (servers in each tier will get same starting points)

again, we haven’t had a point reset after the free transfer ended. it’s now or never….

The thing is, it isn’t necessary. The reason for a point rebalancing is to break out of stale matchups that have stagnated due to point disparities. All of the matchups in the NA tiers are dynamic and changing, with the exception of t8. There is no stagnation that such a reset would fix. The only tier that desperately needs that sort of reset is t8.

i dont think you understand what a soft reset is…

it would get rid of the stagnation in t8 without disrupting any other matches

@aziz: really sad to hear that thread is deleted. maybe theyre trying to get rid of any kind of trail in prep for yoinking the idea? personally i wouldnt care. just use the kitten idea already. its kitten good.

bonus points hell yeah

put a hard cap/floor on rating
do a soft reset when a 200+ rating point gap appears between 2 servers

we dont care about a servers rating. we care about what place were in, we care about what color we are. neither will change with either of these ideas. therefore manipulating the ratings can be used to our advantage to prevent tier locking and continuously bad pairings.

BenL.5312:

insanemaniac.2456:

hmm..
zvz battles sound like typical 17th-19th century european armies.

what beat that? guerrilla tactics. winters.

No disrespect to guerilla tactics, but both large forces and guerilla tactics work side by side and complement each other.

WvW is a take and hold type of meta. With a larger force, it is easy to take down and hold objectives more effectively and efficiently.

both very true. why do we fight now like we do? weve had weapons developments that make it extremely unwise to put together large forces and charge. things like machine guns and bombs allow us to let a large group basically suicide into a few people. whats comparable in game? ballistas and arrow carts.

so 2 things:

-there is no substantial death penalty. we need to make it substantial ourselves and not just throw our faces at short reinforcement lines.

-50v50 can be all good and fun… but 45v50 isnt much different, and 5 people can take a tower instead while the 45 not only fight their best, but also stall as long as possible.

my point is that theres a reason european armies drifted away from large centralized forces marching around in nonnatural colors, and just saying “well guerrilla tactics work w/ zergs too” is just you deciding not to think about the problem and how you can improve. because when you actually use some of these tactics and win a battle with slightly fewer people than usual, your peripheral arm of people may succeed in their objective as well and actually get you tangible gains out of winning the battle instead of “welp theyre gonna respawn lets do it again”.

hmm..
zvz battles sound like typical 17th-19th century european armies.

what beat that? guerrilla tactics. winters.

Manoa.5897:

Jeknar.6184:

I just hope FC doesn’t get utterly demoralizated if their “reinforcement” will really leave… That will just break T8 even more.

As so I. I was really saddened for FC to hear that some of their new arrivals were actually planning on leaving to go back to their former tier all along. I know I’d be crushed.

i, for one, am not really crushed… bit disappointed but thankful were under no illusions. honestly, dont really want to be the next kaineng. just to have a balanced match.

Jextapose.6532:

I have rather enjoyed this trip into T8 so far. My honest opinion is this. I was rather shocked to see the numbers that SF can field. Was not expecting that many in T8. Although this was EB, and it seemed to me that the BL’s were dead for the most part. It could be that EB is where most of SF goes. The culling patch could be the culprit but it seems to me like SF has more numbers than FA did 3 months ago during our time in T3. That could also be wrong though because SF is immensely scattered, whereas in higher tiers, most of the numbers are grouped on commanders. WIth numbers alone though, I think SF can do pretty well in T7 and probably even push past T7 if they get more organized and wear the proper gear.

FC certainly has some numbers as well, it just takes some work to get them out. Can’t blame them for being incredibly demoralized, FA went through the same thing in T3 for a few months. Seems like all they need is a few good leaders that people can rally on and they could do some serious work.

the patch means 2-4x the normal numbers being fielded by all 3 servers

of course for comparison, im told t1 has redefined the meaning of zerg now post patch >.>

do you think the rating system needs additional modifications to handle the small pools of servers?

(cuz i do)

i havent yet but if i got word the right people were working on their dorito id help them out