Guild Wars 2

Lodius.5392:

9/9 … will be remembered such as 9/11

The day the ANet Plane hit the GW2 Towers.

Yep. Those things are certainly comparable.

But yeah I agree don’t make it guild specific. Of course it will naturally gravitate towards that anyhow.

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

jweez.7214:

Is there a reason you think these are coming to gw2? Or are you just expressing you don’t want them?

Probably because of this:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

We will be discussing ideas around Guild Raids.

Chris

Note that this isn’t a confirmation of anything, Chris just said it’s open for discussion in the CDI. In anet’s own words Nothing is off the table.

Ah ok thnx!

Is there a reason you think these are coming to gw2? Or are you just expressing you don’t want them?

butch.8136:

They’re angry because a tutorial experience is forced upon them when they’re creating alts.

Which is understandable.
But the amount of raging, lack of constructive feedback, egocentric/short-sighted/irrelevant reasoning hurts my brain.

Wonderfully said.

At the risk of getting ate alive by saying this…I kinda like this change. : |

I’ve always felt that gw2 front loads you with everything a class has to offer and there’s no anticipation for that next great skill/trait. And no real chance for you to really learn all the pros and cons of the ones you currently have.

That being said this does suck for those of you who level a lot and are adept at getting into a new class. Maybe anet will come out with a middle ground to help ease the burden on your guys side of the things.

Not worse. It’s just…the same.

But no gw2 is here to stay. The servers aren’t going down any time soon.

This game isn’t for us.

Expansion or not the people-like myself-who are dissatisfied will remain dissatisfied. The stuff we want goes against anets vision.

More dungeons
More classes
More “hard core” content
More gear (that’s attainable without gems)
More skills
More prestige items

it’s time we face it and accept anet is uninterested with catering to that portion of its customer base. Which it’s hard to blame them. We want the most, complain the most, and go up and arms when it doesn’t go our way.

Personally, I’m waiting for a dev studio who cares to cater to the player that I am. It’s silly to keep expecting anet to turn into something that they are not and have never planned to be.

nethykins.7986:

The drip-feeding of info to players seems like it could have been rounded up in a simple tutorial added in the prologue.

Thing is, I would say
“I think a robust tutorial would have probably taken them a lot less time, effort, resources to get across how to play the game for “new players”, and would have ultimately kept them free to make changes that were frequently requested"

But then I realised that these are just ports from the china client, which means possibly localisation was the thing that took the most time.

On a side note:
Also, here’s a wild suggestion for the downed thing….Place the downed skills in the character skills UI area so i can see what skills I have BEFORE I’m downed!!!!

Yep. Its a serious oversight that they aren’t in there.

Stephane Lo Presti.7258:

The Feature Pack announcements will continue next week and some of them will definitely contain information that’s relevant to those of you who’ve been playing the game for long. We won’t tell you about them until the articles are live though, to keep the element of surprise!

Hm. I’ll hush until then. But if I don’t get something cool next week I will raise a hell so furious…

Jk thnx for the red post.

Nabuko Darayon.9645:

What they’re trying here is to Sync Chinese and NA/EU Clients. Remember they were working fully on Chinese release and had not much time to implement serious stuff in this Feature pack.

I was even surprised that they did one now and not later since it was a too short period to add anything meaningful.

Consider this more of a Sync pack then Feature pack.

This is true. But why try to pass it off as one then? They should have just called it a sync PAC or something to that effect.

Puddles.6385:

Dusty Moon.4382:

I am a veteran player and I don’t see this at all. I guess YOU DON’T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE.

Gee, good thing I didn’t use the word “all” or “every” then. I think that the responses so far are pretty good evidence that a significant number of veteran players, if not the majority, tend to agree. I’m sorry if you feel like I was trying to speak for you, but:

“Question on behalf of veteran players (except Dusty Moon.4382, and some others)” is too long for a thread title.

Lol.

The last two feature packs seem to be aimed at new players. Is anet expecting a sudden influx of new players due to an expansion?

Or is it just wishful thinking?

What do you guys think and why?

It’s just speculation but as nothing else exciting going on in this game why not speculate a lil bit?

Maybe next week will be better?

Nah who am I kidding? It probably won’t be.

I prefer a singular world too. But it’s too late and too small of an annoyance to worry about.

No. Lack of character depth (build diversity), boring group dynamics, and lack of meaningful content are my major gripes and why I couldn’t justify me buying another gw2 game.

Very Bad idea for the reasons listed above. Your hearts in the right place though.

Any big announcements for the game will likely be announced a bit before the next feature pack which will be after ls2.

It is one of the many fascinating mysteries anet has created and refuses to return to. Opting instead to bring us stories about crazy sylvari.

Regardless of what u want to call them I would say this is a win win. I do not use waypoints, they make the world far to easy to traverse but i do wish I could go about without blowing the few swiftness cds that I have.

It’s a faster way to travel that doesn’t ruin immersion however keeps others screens from being cluttered and will have a smaller fps drop than a big kitten war elephant.

Happy medium perhaps?

I know you asked for how to advertise but another idea is to get in a guild and find like minded individuals.

Best wishes!

Knighthonor.4061:

Jski.6180:

So about 2 that are usable then? Vomiting skills at players is not going to fix a thing its just going to add in a lot of pointless skills or worst yet skill that simply out do old skills. Time is what good skill fixes and new skills needs and time is something that is on GW2 side. I am not sure if there needs to even be a feeling of needed rush.

So i am saying work with old skills > new skills all the time.

I diagree. I seen many of new MMos and old with cool ability ideas that havnt been done in GW2 yet as a class skill. So I am sure we can have 30 more unique class skills that are useful and not useless like in GW1. Most of the GW1 skills were made useless because of the setbacks that many of the skills in GW1 had. GW2 doesnt need to do that, as proven by other MMOs.

I don’t know. It seems like a lot.

How about you show us an example of 2 new weapon sets (10 skills), 6 utilities, and 2 elites for any class that isn’t redundant? It could help us understand why you think 30 isn’t too much.

Yea. And also add 50 new dungeons and ten more classes.

Lol jking but 30 seems a little excessive. What do others think?

Sounds about right to me.

Jking. I understand your frustration.

izze.3284:

its just rediculous, i crafted 6 legendaries and get no title same achievment points as someone who crafts 2 rodgort flames …. even though the title is lame (tiwce-told a legend) but its just plain stupid to throw an extra achievment for this in the ring now.

You’re still awesome though.

So…like give him sunglasses or something?

Yeah! And then Colin Johanson can come tuck you in and give you a big glass of milk.

Or…

One could act like an adult and monitor their own behavior.

I share your opinion that the elder dragons whole force of nature and not really understanding their actions makes for a weak story.

I do offer you that there’s conflicting information regarding whether they have emotions. For example, kralkatorik tracked down glint once he woke and killed her because she betrayed him. The fact that he can feel betrayal goes against many the arguement a that they are just a force of nature.

There’s stuff to do at 80. It’s just all that stuff is broken.

To elaborate, you can start running megabosses. But it gets pretty boring when most of it is just Zerg.

You can start running fotm or dungeons, but with the zerker meta you feel really confined.

I think gw2 is a game that is marketed towards those who want to subsidize time that would be spent in the game with money instead to get rewards. I don’t think that will ever really change.

Which is fine…I guess. Those people need a place to game also. But it’s time WE find our place to game and stop trying to turn this game into something the devs don’t want it to be.

Just my recently developed opinion on gw2. I hope no one takes that the wrong way.

IndigoSundown.5419:

My elementalist, when attuned fire, perceives mobs screaming and trying futilely to put out the fires as they die. Their tears, while sweet, do nothing to put out the flames.

Lmao!

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

It could indeed mean a lot, but If this means gear that is even more powerful than Ascended, pretty much introducing a required grind, I’m out.

Xenon.4537:

I can imagine someone is giving her a stern lecture right now in the office. Poor dev.

She should get a kitten medal. At least she actually told us something about what the devs were working on.

She or he most likely got permission to make that comment.

Just a bit more about how I came to think about all of this because it seems some are mistaking me for an elitist who hates noobs when its quite the contrary. I am pretty noobish myself. Despite what the first person who replied to me thinks of me I have done fractals a maybe a handful of times. Dungeons just enough to get the armor that I wanted and I have done the megabosses…I think 3 times maybe.

The reason why I even started thinking about the megaboss events is because I participated in one of them without knowing much about the fight. We failed despite the efforts of the people trying hard to organize the event. Personally, I was far more of a detriment to the group than an asset.

Anyways from there I started thinking about what It would take to try to lead an event like that where it seems there is so much against you. I don’t know I just kinda thought it was an awesome thing to try to do and put myself in that position. While it is awesome of those who try to lead these events, it doesn’t take away from that it all seems so unnecessary when there is an easier and better way to implement that type of content. That is pretty much how I came to writing this.

So its not really new players that I am mad at. More so the system that just-to me atleast-doesn’t make sense because there are so many more economies to putting it in an instance.

pdavis.8031:

^
I totally agree on everything. I’m just confused by what the OP is wanting. In his first post he says “Many people can not run them due to fps issues.” and then follows with “I’d argue that by keeping these events in the open world you aren’t being fair to the people who take their time and resources to hold the hands of people who don’t know how the event works.”

It seems he doesn’t like the fps drop and lag issue, and doesn’t like that there are noobs playing the events. And because of these things the mega boss events need to be thrown out and made into “raids”.

However there will always be noobs in such events. Everyone starts out as a noob. Thats how it works, and thats ok. A noob doesn’t think “ooo a huge dragon event! wait, before I go in I better go read the wiki, watch the you tube videos, and walkthroughs, and retrait to x, y, z, Switch my gear and weapons before I do this”

A “noob” thinks: “oooo cool!! a big dragon! Lets kill it!! and theres lots of people here so it must be fun!”

Hello. I hear what you are saying. There certainly is a learning curve regardless of the situation. I think that instanced content is still better to teach new people even still. If I am leading a megaboss and I go through and explain everything and we fail a significant portion of the time I just invested in trying to help people learn the event is gone because many of them will either quit all together, or wont be on the same server the next time the event pops.

In instanced content I could teach people the event and if we fail no big deal. Especially if it is my guild members because most of them will likely stay and now they have learned a bit more about the fight.

Dusty Moon.4382:

1. People were complaining the areas were dead.

2. People were complaining they couldn’t finish bosses because of low populations

3. People were complaining the ‘guesting’ on another server caused them to go into overflow and not finish an event.

So, A.Net came up with mega servers to fix the above, now people want it to revert the way it was. You can’t have it both ways.

Turn off anti-aliasing – that helps a huge amount.

Lol I’m not talking about mega servers.

pdavis.8031:

So it’s not an issue of the mechanics of mega bosses, as it is a hardware problem. I too experience FPS drops and lag, but if there was a way to turn off particle effects that would help, or only show the models of the people in your group. Otherwise mega bosses are fine. (granted they could use an overhaul, but thats not what the OP is talking about.)

Hmm seems like a lot of people share your sentiment. I am starting to suspect I am further in the minority than I thought. Which is fine. Won’t be the first or last time I was mistaken. Thanks for the reply

Smooth Penguin.5294:

You just need a better PC.

Can you run them? There always seems to be a few people who are like “I’m getting like 60 fps on ultra.” And everyone else are lagging their kitten off.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Megabosses are a great idea really, as long as there’s also instanced stuff for people who don’t want to run them.

You can’t really put lag as an argument. You could make a similar argument about having high-end graphics. Also, having X, Y, Z on your PC doesn’t nessecarily mean its going to run well if it’s not optimised. You could have the best GPU, CPU, everything but a absolutely terrible cooling system, and your PC would just not function under stress at all.

I personally don’t like the way new megabosses are made, but I like the concept itself. I think megabosses bring out the massive in a MMO, which is something the genre has hugely lacked since WoW came along. But I don’t think thy should be ‘hardcore’ or. Dry challenging. They should be purely based on fun. They should be fights that aren’t hard to eat but you come out going ‘boy that was kitten’.

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate that you didn’t just assume you know all about me and my motives and instead expressed how you saw the situation even though we don’t see eye to eye.

I enjoyed reading what you thought about the situation.

I’m sure it needs work but love the overall idea and spirit of this!

I think that megabosses are a bad idea.

Many people can not run them due to fps issues. Personally, I get around 12 fps on lowest settings on most of them and my rig is pretty good. Nothing to write home about but good enough that I usually run on max settings when doing other content. I know for fact that this an issue because everytime I do one of these events people in map chat are having conversations about their low fps and how it should be running better because their computer has X, Y, and Z.

I get that anet doesn’t want it instanced because they don’t want people being excluded from content. They don’t believe it’s fair to certain people. I’d argue that by keeping these events in the open world you aren’t being fair to the people who take their time and resources to hold the hands of people who don’t know how the event works. Essentially the people who know the event have to make up for others because the boss gets more difficult as more people are doing the event.

Finally, because the devs know there will be people who have no idea what they are doing they will always have to make content with a much larger margin of error than what they would with a traditional instanced encounter. Which basically goes against the idea of being “Hard-Core, Mega-Organized Events”.

I just think the cons outweigh the pros by a lot.

Thank to all the organizers of these events who try to make sense of this inherently broken system anet handed to you.

Get used to it. This is how your guy’s challenging content will always be.

Zergy laggy mesh of particle effects with huge amounts of free riders = gw2 challenging content.

Shout out to the guys who try their best to make these events worthwhile though.

Draknar.5748:

To defend OP, someone with 500 AP is a player that has barely played the game at all. Unless you’re running FoTM1, I could totally see why you would want to kick them.

On the other hand, it could very well be a skilled player who got a new/second account, so I guess I don’t even know what I’m saying.

Here’s what you do: you ask them questions specific to FoTM.

“I see you only have 500AP”
“Uh yea, well its a new account I’m actually quite skilled”
“Cool cool, I’m sure, I’m sure, but just to be sure, could you maybe explain the Jade Maw fight, like what you do with the crystals?”
“Uhh, Jade Maw, yea, well you have to destroy those uh crystals, and uhm, then, uh, it will blow up, gulp, the uhm, uh, Jade Maw?”

kick from group

Exactly. But I’d throw in a “I think we need someone with a bit more experience. We will keep your resume on file and if anything opens up in the future we may give you a call.”

Hi can’t access the stream from work. Could u describe it so I can share in your outrage?

The soonest I would expect would be after season 2 Ls. Anyone’s guess when that will be however,

Why do u think it isn’t going to happen?

I personally can give a skritt’s kitten about it. I just think we need a more varied set of awards especially since we have gotten rid of the gear treadmill.

Why do you type like that?

Our dynamic event system can do everything you asked for. Yeah right now it does a pretty kittenty job of throwing in lore but it is possible.

As far as exploring the world they could have it that you do an event in zone a and the boss drops an item. That item is necessary to set of dynamic event chain in zone b.

Seriously is it just me or production wise does anet move irritably slow?

The game took about six years since announcement to release. I’ve compared that length to a few other mmo’s and it is about double the amount of time.

It’s been about two years and devs haven’t even DECIDED on what to do about an expansion.

PVE system still not corrected. Zerker meta is still king

etc…etc..

It just seems rather slow to me. But that is just to me and my opinion is one in many.
SOOOO what do you guys think? Are they putting out features at an acceptable speed? Does the amount of polish make it ok at the rate they are putting out features?

Kurrilino.2706:

lordkrall.7241:

Grinding would be repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again. I don’t really see that in GW2. Sure you CAN do it that way, but in order to progress, you don’t HAVE to do it that way. Thus no mandatory grind.
The fact that people seem to love to force grind upon themselves isn’t really the games fault though.

Do you actually believe what you are saying ???
You can’t see grinding in GW2 ???
Would you like to explain me how to get the dungeon armor skins without doing the dungeon over and over again ???

But you don’t have to get the armor skins. You can get armor of the same power by world completion, drops, or trading posts if you really want.

Gw2 has plenty of grind. Legendaries and ascended items are a testament to that. But there isn’t a “gear grind” that keeps you from experiencing the game. You aren’t perpetually getting stronger armor to experience the next chunk of content. Exotic gear and that is it.

I Still think the game is headed to kitten though….