Guild Wars 2

Locuz.2651:

kdaddy.5431:

Rap Tiger.1257:

You ArenaNet should allow both falls in the division as in tier starting in amber.
Thus only the best players come to catch legendary division and also would cause weaker skills of players fell short.
Because those who are more casual should go unranked or play RANKED only to play, I believe that the intention of the league is more for the hardcore
Only need to adjust himself is the MMR and balance patch.
since the league system division, tier and pips,I think very good this system.

this is not a good system because for anyone who isnt great the system would not be fun

You think ppl getting to divisions they dont belong at and getting slaughtered like that is better?

Ive seen plenty of examples of ruby players who wouldve been better of if they didnt reach ruby. Met a guy who reached ruby but whos is literally canon fodder every game ive played against or with him. Its sad and cant be enjoyable for him.

In the current system getting to ruby isnt the hardest thing being simply winning games will get you there.

The proposed system takes away the fun of even having a league system. I dont mind playing against ESL players but when im 1 pip away from from getting to t4 and i face full premade 4 legendary its can be frustrating.

Now multiply that with it now being in Amber and Emerald. For this player you mentioned, he now gets to play players of a higher skill/ build level and now he can get better moving forward. Seeing what works against average players and what works against good players gives alot to a player.

The proposed league system of constant loss of pips is a terrible idea. The amount of rage people have atm is already not good.

The current league system is also not good. The suggestions of bad ideas is not something that we should have moving forward.

So wait let me get this straight

My legit friends who are in emerald (almost sapphire) and my other friend who we got to ruby today. We should play in unranked because our skill levels are vastly different even though we are all playing and queing in ranked?

Wow thanks guys and thanks anet. These are not guys who have not played PvP but simply dont grind every day in PvP. They are going for the legendary back pcs but plan to get it by the 4th season.

Also my guild is a small guild of returning players and ones who didnt buy the HOT expansion so i should just say hey we are gonna face diamond and legendarys if you que with me. They be like ok its for fun but then the team would rage at me or my friends/ guild mates because they want to participate in the “League Season”.

Unreal that the best MM can do is the simplest/easiest for them solution possible.

Rap Tiger.1257:

You ArenaNet should allow both falls in the division as in tier starting in amber.
Thus only the best players come to catch legendary division and also would cause weaker skills of players fell short.
Because those who are more casual should go unranked or play RANKED only to play, I believe that the intention of the league is more for the hardcore
Only need to adjust himself is the MMR and balance patch.
since the league system division, tier and pips,I think very good this system.

this is not a good system because for anyone who isnt great the system would not be fun

jessiestiles.9437:

kdaddy.5431:

If your the best players in the game guess what you dont grow threw a tournament/season/ random mix of players. You right out the box have to play the other best players. Seriously it be like being in the NBA and only having to play the Golden state Warriors and Spurs every game while some dude on the 76ers gets to talk smack because hes in ruby first.

Not at all I had to completely change my style of playing and profession. I was losing every game. I also realised through simple mathematics that if I played for long periods I’d lose so much I couldn’t progress like Helseth. This I put to two factors the amount of concentration required and the daily reset of the MMR. I just realised long before he did that grinding your way through tiers just left me disheartened. This is why I’ve played relatively few games and am only just now at ruby.

This isnt a good thing. You having to adapt for a “season” doesnt make it right. Lets just assume your a legendary level player and because you are not grinding, you just got to ruby recently and now you are far better then the ruby players you are playing now. This is not a good thing.

The reasons people have League season is so players can literally see what there skill level is. Its not fair to the hardcore PvP players of the game.

I dont know what it means to be Esports but having played real sports in the seasons meant something and you played everyone. You only played the better teams in distrcts,regionals,states,playoffs. Here in GW2 league seasons it doesnt matter. Your gonna play the same people over and over and with the new team set up you now must find people of equal skill level. If your friends are not you will lose.

With the now already spoken about win streak perk, you can see how this will get ugly at times.

this is unfortunate to me on so many levels.

1- We cant come up with a better system for team ques? For instance i play with 3-4 other people and all of us are of different skill levels and most of us have over 10 k Ap points.

2- The match making is still horrible for divisions and rankings. These 2 things still have no meaning. If really bad players are playing really bad players to get to ruby how is that the same as someone like helseth who was stuck in emerald while many lesser players got to ruby in the same time.

3- Win streaks only helps those with good premades. Yeah i can see this being great already. The simply fact im facing legendary premades back 2 back 2 back 2 back and now they get to farm me on team speak while i solo que. Just great, yeah i cant see anything wrong with this at all.

The point confusion i like but why cant we get simply things that the vast majority of the community wants. Our MMR and a legit leaderboard. How about rewards based on skill level of play instead of grinding. Im so confused on how you can call something “League” but theres no actual league.

If your the best players in the game guess what you dont grow threw a tournament/season/ random mix of players. You right out the box have to play the other best players. Seriously it be like being in the NBA and only having to play the Golden state Warriors and Spurs every game while some dude on the 76ers gets to talk smack because hes in ruby first.

Crinn.7864:

kdaddy.5431:

Maybe you could run a power build?

I fail to see how power vs condi has anything to do with the subject of AoE healing.

Currently most eles with meta builds have no stability, do below average damage, have been forced into diamond skin trait with bunker mesmer with passive condi, reapers with dps/condi dmg and a 2nd life bar, and many classes who can easily 2 vs 1 eles in there current state.

Everyone on this forum literally wants to take away the 2 things making them even usable. There AOE heals/effects and diamond skin. Why dont we just take cele ammy too so absolutely no one can play ele.

I can beat a ele 1 vs 1 with my necro. My friend who mains druid/ranger can beat a ele 1 vs 1. So just from personal experience a ele can be beaten 1 vs 1 and you want to take away its only real use in team fights?

Every team in the ESL is running 1 ele for team fights only. Please lets take warrior/thief/ and ele. We dont need these classes.

Also my point about power was the ele now doesnt have enough healing for dps builds. If you can run 1 player with any ability to stun/knock down/fear/ etc etc etc and 1 person who can run a dps build without dying immediately , this wouldnt be a problem.

Maybe you could run a power build?

Anet doesnt know how to fix this. They said that next season a team que will be put with its highest rank player.

Just sucks for alot of us who friends are not very good at PvP but we like to play together.

Galandil.9641:

They can’t count, but you can’t attach the right pic. That is Forest, not Foefire lol.

This is the Pic of the match where the guy dc for over 5 minutes and i still lost a pip. If you read my comment i would hope you could connect 2 and 2

One of my biggest frustrations with the division and rankings. Is that people in diamond and legendary cant count heads.

Of course the map most played in PvP is Legacy and people are calling heads and where they are and the people who couldnt figure out where to go was the 2 legendary people on my team.

They let the other team get a free cap and they let them kill lord.

What happened-
Someone on far had decapped and said 2 was there. I went to even the numbers. 1 person on home vs 1. We had 2 people on mid trying to kill a bunker mesmer and 1 thief killing our lord. 3 people said we need 1 at lord……. this means the 2 people fighting the 1 need to decide who is going. Literally no one went and then the thief and person from home went mid and killed one of our players and the legendary ele left mid. The ranger camping home who was also legendary who didnt leave home all game left for 5 sec to see what happened at mid and got decapped. Anet how? How?

Also side thing i just lost a pip and this dude was dc for over 5 minutes. The only reason this match ended up being 300+ for us was because they had 2 thieves. Literally tagging up on a necro who was roaming.

Anet really …… really…………………………….

Well at least you guys are getting a mix, i have multiple pics of facing ESL players while im solo queing and i have plenty of facing full premades and 3-4 of them are in legendary division and my team being all solo ques in diamond.

I have no problem with me being matched up against them but i have a problem with losing PiPs when the team i was on couldnt have possibly been picked to win.

I dont agree with the everyone deserves a ribbon that is going with the casual crowd. Though i agree that the PvP season system needs changed.

We are still having many people who were really good players back in the team Que and Solo que not engage in the PvP season.

I dont know how you can call these “Leagues” when its simply a grind to ruby+ then 2-3 months later start another season and put everyone back to Amber. It really makes no sense unless you simply want people to grind out more games.

Ive already seen many people just not play PvP ranked and go do quick unranked matches for dailies.

No everyone shouldnt be able to get the legendary back piece but The “League” system and ranks of the players need to better reflect a players skill.

JayAction.9056:

kdaddy.5431:

JayAction.9056:

Because the individual is grouped with someone of a lower rank you assume he did so all the way to Legendary?

Or are you upset that, that is allowed to happen?

The only thing im upset about is seeing someone who has the legendary rank/title when i beat them in a 1 vs 1 and when we were in a 2 vs 2 i beat them there too. When i will most likely not get to legendary rank.

Really its only because i want the symbol. So call it what you want.

You say you beat this person in a 1v1 and a 2v2… and you also know how they got to legendary. That clearly means you’re better than them and should have legendary too, right?

Actually i dont know how they got to legendary and obviously i dont deserve anything without earning it.

It just becomes frustrating for me on different levels.

1- facing legendary premades left and right. Or being asked to carry rubies when we face all diamond team.

2- The PiP system, whether a person dc or facing elite level teams as solos and losing 1-2 pips. Today i lost 2 pips and my team had 2 thieves. This just adds on to many factors.

There are more things but ultimately the forum is where i come to complain. Some times i have a point and sometimes i dont. Im just expressing a frustration im currently having, heck yesterday i went to unranked for 2-3 matches and i saw muffins who was in a duo que i think and trackful.

Im seriously sitting here going Pro Players are following in uranked too!!!!!

its been here since launch, we all just assume anet cant or wont fix it

JayAction.9056:

Because the individual is grouped with someone of a lower rank you assume he did so all the way to Legendary?

Or are you upset that, that is allowed to happen?

The only thing im upset about is seeing someone who has the legendary rank/title when i beat them in a 1 vs 1 and when we were in a 2 vs 2 i beat them there too. When i will most likely not get to legendary rank.

Really its only because i want the symbol. So call it what you want.

I have absolutely not problem with the match making. Ive just gotten to the point of what is this league system for?

For instance ive been queing in unranked for play builds ive been just seeing what they might be able to do and i saw muffins 1 match. Next match trackful and then after that a 3 man apex team (though i think 1 was from the ESL team).

Im been stuck in diamond tier 3 for awhile and im just wondering why being im in diamond. I see some of these other diamond players and im like, really?

Yet it feels like every other match im the only diamond with a bunch of rubys against all diamond team or on a diamond team against 3-4 legendarys.

The PiP system is just very frustrating though i enjoy the match ups even if there 1 sided.

The answer is no

In the current meta its really the only class that gives team support with the massive amounts of AOE condi. Take away Diamond Skin and the ele isnt usable anymore from a team perspective.

Also the huge thing is balance here. We have 2 classes that are not being used (except by a select few) for even regular ranked matches. People who actually try to play with non-meta builds are greatly weaker then there meta counter part.

Diamond Skin is just part of the current meta as a small counter to the spikes in DPS/Condi dmg being thrown around. IF you look at classes like DH/DD/Beserker, they are the actual counter to DS ele but the problem is that every other class counters them so the question becomes the upcoming patch.

The domino effect will occur but the question is will be good enough for eles to play other things?

Hmmmm thought it posted but it didnt.

Before those guys i had to play these guys right before. I really find match making odd. Why didnt they have them play each other…………………………..

I have no problem with the match making i just wish we didnt lose PiPs when we are clearly had no real chance of winning.

Also i know its my fault im the reason we didnt win any even number fights By the way our split was 2-2-1 and theres was 2-3-0 so i got the free cap at home and went to mid.

morrolan.9608:

kdaddy.5431:

i dont know about anyone else but once i get the pcs needed to make the back pc i will stay to unranked dailies only.

This isnt a league system its a grind system. They know for the most part what our skill levels are and instead of simply putting us in a certain division based on skill and rewarding us for playing the game. They said

step 1 make them grind games

step 2 make it so once they grind out wins they will have to wait long periods of time to face other players if they get to a high level.

This is spot on. Its clear from all HOT content that anet are a one trick pony in terms of player retention, all they can do is add more and more grind to all game systems.

Seriously, every aspect of the expansion they turned into a grind.

I was actually ok with the $100 because the GW2 came out with alot of great ad ons from Living Story, to the scarlett saga and PvP being near a perfect meta. The only thing that needed fixed was d/d ele. So many great little things and 2 different halloween stories.

Boom this expansion comes out and destroys everything. PvE people are complaining about certain things, WvW all but dead except for the die hards and PvP is experiencing mass frustration.

heres the big kicker though, they added nothing. No fractal leaderboards, no new fractals except adding really bad punishments to 50+ fractals, killed dungeons, a terrible WvW map which they didnt make a new map for. They simply threw this map on top of the old one and was like good.

PvP got no new maps, a unbalanced specs, a league system that actually punishes players for losing even if they try there best and dont quit, not resetting the leader boards and the being unable to see the guild leader boards.

Im waiting to see what they do next because im running on fumes here. We didnt get new halloween content, we got grind winterdays content and you hit on the head with the fact they are a 1 trick pony.

If they bring out more content that is the same as the current system i hope we all jump ship.

Azhure.1857:

Adorable that you’re happy with multiple pip wins but not the losses. Just adorable.

I didnt in these situations get 2 pips per win. I simply won 2 matches and got 1 pip from each win for 2 pips.

Ill give you a example of what happened. On 1-3-16 i had 3 PiPs in tier 3 and i went 4-4. 4 wins and 4 losses and i left the night in tier3 1 PiP.

As someone who mostly PvP and WvW before HOT. We see things differently but there are a few things i completely agree with.

1) The story line
I havent been able to finish the story line yet but ive done some of it and im actually really confused about where i have gotten. SPOILERS COMING, why do i take the egg and give it to these other people at the temple? Why am i ok with them having it? Why do none of my companions involved with any pc of it. They are just like what ever you choose boss im ok with. The people of the story literally are lifeless.
GW1 was so great because of the story line. Literally i hated most of the things about GW1 coming from WoW and champions online and other games but the story was so interesting and fun. What has happened to that?

2) Joining friends
The first time i went into verdint brink my guild mates were trying to get me to go places with them to do things but i couldnt do them. Even now they can go fight some boss for a daily thing which is great for them. I cant join them since ive played more pvp. I havent unlocked anything since i play PvP. I have opened up 6-7 mastery things like gliding techniques and bouncing mushrooms and so on. Just seems odd i cant do thing with them even though we have played equal amounts.

3) WvW and PvP
WvW is in rework mode and i love the comment he made about how lazy it looks. They just plopped a map on top of the old map and said bam here this is new. Wow what a joke. The PvP community feels completely lied too when you talk Leader Boards, fair play for old and new specs, as well and many other things.

4) Guild Halls and Scribing
There isnt any thing really fun about this. My guild members and I only go in there to upgrade the hall and even then we are sitting going is this worth our time and mats. Everything about it feels like work.

I honestly feel like people stay with GW2 because the game play is simply alot of fun. We can all see how awesome alot of the mechanics and maps are in the game. It just the game itself is not fun. Ive been coming to this slow conclusion and what hit me was what this person on the review said. I probably would of left the game had i not had made friends with people from my guild.

I will probably still come for dailys but its to that point that if i dont see them on. Then theres no reason for me to be on either.

Browrain.7346:

Is it not obvious? Your team was favored to win with the 4-man team vs all soloq’ers. Unfortunately for you, you got stuck with them that game and them being a party cost you an extra pip.

Im just losing it.

I win 2 in a row and get 2 pips. I play a 3 man premade of 2 legendarys and 1 amber with 2 diamond solo ques and i lose 3 pips when we were 5 solo que diamonds.

I win 2 in a row and i get this match and lose 2 pips. There are no words to explain the frustration of having days winning 4-5-6 games and losing 1-2-3 and having less pips. I think i just need to do dailies and just leave again.

I dont understand why i have to lose 2 pips for a game like this. I died once by treb and every fight i was in the team won. You cant have a League system based on PiP winning and losing im sorry.

Falan.1839:

Have I won this thread now?

I have to say its really hard trying to stay positive

SlayerSixx.5763:

brannigan.9831:

kdaddy.5431:

Cynz.9437:

kdaddy.5431:

lol vlad i really dont know what you are complaining about. The scores maybe but your in the division area of one another. It makes sense, the question is whether or not someone didnt really belong in there and has a rank they really shouldnt.

I mostly feel bad for that amber guy, seriously who did he make mad that when he solo ques he has to face people in ruby/diamond/legendary division right out the box?

ever heard of smurfs?

actually no

Of course you have never heard of smurfs every post by you makes it clear your a simpleton. You do have some kind of bizarre naive semi charm though you almost cant believe someone can be so trusting and dumb. Smurfing doofus is someone running with a low alt account to get easier matches and advance faster. Im sure in your little world that never happens. Too bad in the real world its rampant genius. You understand now Dawg lol.

Its quite possible he knows what it is but didn’t know to tie this term to it….? Also, while trying to dump on someone for being dumb, be sure to check your writing. There’s a mistake after almost every second word.

Thank you and yes i knew of what people were doing but i didnt know it was given the name “smurf”.

i dont know about anyone else but once i get the pcs needed to make the back pc i will stay to unranked dailies only.

This isnt a league system its a grind system. They know for the most part what our skill levels are and instead of simply putting us in a certain division based on skill and rewarding us for playing the game. They said

step 1 make them grind games

step 2 make it so once they grind out wins they will have to wait long periods of time to face other players if they get to a high level.

step 3 allow other players who are not as skilled to get to a higher division before even pro players because thats fair. (Like handing ribbons to every kid at a track meet even though one kid threw a ball and went home)

not sure what the future leagues hold but after the this one i wont be grinding anymore. Seriously how hard can it be to make a decent leader board?

Im now trying to upgrade my WvW upgrades. No one in my guild does it anymore but just in case Anet fixes but mostly because our guild hall to reach level 40 for more guild exploration.

Scribing makes me feel like the south park kids playing WoW episode. After i get some scribing down im like wow that felt good. My guild mate says did you get the upgrade? I reply with “no i still need 300 more course paper but now i can finally play the game.”

$100 well spent HOT expansion baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

brannigan.9831:

kdaddy.5431:

Cynz.9437:

kdaddy.5431:

lol vlad i really dont know what you are complaining about. The scores maybe but your in the division area of one another. It makes sense, the question is whether or not someone didnt really belong in there and has a rank they really shouldnt.

I mostly feel bad for that amber guy, seriously who did he make mad that when he solo ques he has to face people in ruby/diamond/legendary division right out the box?

ever heard of smurfs?

actually no

Of course you have never heard of smurfs every post by you makes it clear your a simpleton. You do have some kind of bizarre naive semi charm though you almost cant believe someone can be so trusting and dumb. Smurfing doofus is someone running with a low alt account to get easier matches and advance faster. Im sure in your little world that never happens. Too bad in the real world its rampant genius. You understand now Dawg lol.

alright thank you

see all im saying is we can all do the same thing. For instance my last 4 matches i dont know how this 4 man premade got to diamond but i accept they are there and simply we were out played. 2 of my next 3 where with a thief and if you see him let it be but in both of the matches he was on my team someone from the other team asked if he was doing it on purpose.

I lost 4 pips and i literally just did these matches. Sometimes you have to accept your not gonna make it to the next tier.

Cynz.9437:

kdaddy.5431:

lol vlad i really dont know what you are complaining about. The scores maybe but your in the division area of one another. It makes sense, the question is whether or not someone didnt really belong in there and has a rank they really shouldnt.

I mostly feel bad for that amber guy, seriously who did he make mad that when he solo ques he has to face people in ruby/diamond/legendary division right out the box?

ever heard of smurfs?

actually no

lol vlad i really dont know what you are complaining about. The scores maybe but your in the division area of one another. It makes sense, the question is whether or not someone didnt really belong in there and has a rank they really shouldnt.

I mostly feel bad for that amber guy, seriously who did he make mad that when he solo ques he has to face people in ruby/diamond/legendary division right out the box?

chibbi.3706:

kdaddy.5431:

chibbi.3706:

What runes are you using ? I see you’re using a vitality rune but I can’t seem to find any that’d be good on dps warrior.

If this person is using marauder my only guess would be rune of exerburence. The only other rune with a big near max vitality is rune of speed which no one uses.

Yeah that would be my bet too but i’m not sure this is better than, say hoelbrak or pack.

If your going pure dps its definitely strength or even scholar if you just plan to pop stances in run in like a bull.

If i had to put a guess at what the build is, it be

defense 1-1-1

discipline 3-3-3

beserker 3-1-3

Axe-shield obviously and great sword

Either way if a condi player sees that stance up they will range until it goes away so he constantly gonna be closing the distance. Also eviscerate is the big hit and everyone and there mother know what it looks like. If shala is using rifle question becomes whether the player has any timing since kill shot is easily reflected and/retaliated.

Earlier today i did see a warrior beat a necro 1 vs 1 at far. Maybe warrior has some counter abilities to meta classes but if it does i couldnt get it to work. I reached diamond maybe 2 weeks ago and ive seen a influx of players using thief and warrior at this level.

Hey maybe im wrong and warrior has some level play but i doubt it. People in this thread can act like they found some secret gem that no one thought of so who knows we shall see.

Shala.8352:

kdaddy.5431:

actually looks like hes playing bunker with probably a sigil of 100% crit on weapon swap. So probably very littly damage with potentially a big burst hit and then most of the time just sits and prays.

ye i know

i should have put also some screen of my combat stats in this ruby epopea… 700k-800k dmg, i will post some when i will start playing again in diamond.

I believe in warrior dps, if you dont… well be rdy to not understimate the threat when you are facing me^^

Btw im using marauder amulet

I look forward to it

chibbi.3706:

What runes are you using ? I see you’re using a vitality rune but I can’t seem to find any that’d be good on dps warrior.

If this person is using marauder my only guess would be rune of exerburence. The only other rune with a big near max vitality is rune of speed which no one uses.

Wrong!!!!!

Old school warrior still better then new school

It is very confusing and frustrating.

Yesterday i had a match where everyone was all diamond. We had 1 thief and they had 1 thief (crazy right) but there team was simply better. We lost 300-500 and i lost 2 pips.

Another game i wont name names but 2 ESL players were partied up with a emerald player. So a 3-1-1 with 2 legendarys and everyone on my team being diamond. We lost a close match 450-500 and we lost 2 pips. I was so confused.

This one got me the worse. It was a fair match of 3 legendarys and 2 diamonds on 1 side and 2 legendarys and 3 diamonds on the team i was on. The game was 497-500 and i lost a pip. I mean how close to you have to get to winning.

The pip system is making people freak out. I think it has less to do with people playing certain people of division/premade/ other reason but the simple fact that no matter what you do in a loss you will lose a pip. I mean some of these games you are posting dont look bad at all and actually seem like fun games. Simply you lost a pip and it just doesnt seem fair which i can understand.

I think the issue isnt the MM but the league reward system.

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It should be removed from ranked matches for the moment.

actually looks like hes playing bunker with probably a sigil of 100% crit on weapon swap. So probably very littly damage with potentially a big burst hit and then most of the time just sits and prays.

So im ok with the new specs being better then the old ones. Im ok with that if it creates build diversity. I really would like the new specs to make some other things viable.

For instance like in the tempest trait line. Row 1 gave more power options so builds like scepter focus/dagger/warhorn are viable. For 2 could be the current meta specks for shouts and row 3 could be a condi build for player who would want to play earth/arcane. You could make it so 3 types of build types with just the new spec line.

For instance the new trait line for thief is great since it can be condi with d/d and dps with staff but the problem is it counters nothing.

We need more classes to have more options and the new spec should do that. For instance make dwarf and centaur revs actually viable.

The warrior trait line could be fixed so easily by simply adding a dps trait line/ defense/ condi dmg. Get rid of dumb specs like 1 pulse of stability and gain life on a death hit. Which people are trying to use right now.

If there are any better ideas i would love to hear them but currently we have less viable builds now then we had before the hot.

There are alot of people running builds that are simply carrying them to ruby + but ive seen alot of players trying to use warrior and thief in the diamond division.

If your good on a thief or warrior, unless your a ESL level player your still hurting the team by playing this class to another you would have equal skill with.

Ive won basically every 1 vs 1 against a warrior/thief who i engaged at far or home on opening split other then caed. Something like this will make your team mates rage since your playing a under powered class and losing at the one thing you could potentially win against less skilled players.

So there is obviously 2 things at work and 1 is the PiP system. Anytime someones loses multiple pips they start losing there stuff. Also many people are abusing certain broken parts of classes therefore they think they better then they really are.

Lastly i never say anything because anything can happen in a match but 95% of the time if you see a warrior/thief or both you know things will have to go right especially when players of equal skill level are playing.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

hnnngggh imba tp how they do it?

Ill give you a example,

One day they were both in ts and they both were telling each other the prices of items they were looking at such as passion flowers,ecto, karka etc etc etc.

They would look at the price of something and see whats high and low over a month would be. So right before the ascended armor stuff came out. They bought over 2k of the useless mats we were not using. The silk,ecto, linen they bought turned into massive amounts of gold.

So there is the big hits like that and then there is the constant grind of each day. Like asking for blood at 20silver and reselling it at 28 silver a pc.

Then theres the event stuff, so like the dragon bash stuff such as candy and holo wings. They would hold these items for long periods of time to sell. Right before they quit playing they had the karka event going on since they opened up that new map. Karka shells i think it is was like 3-5 silver a pc because so many people had them. After the event they started getting as high as 35-40 silver a pc.

I was god awful at this part of the game so i stick to rng but man i wouldnt see them for like 1-2 months and one day i see them in game and i be like is that moot with frostfang?

Hooglese.4860:

I got bolt via 90% pvp, and tp working (took a long time). It was boring but I did it.

Its funny you say that

When this game first came out there was 2 people i knew who actually quit playing the game and then just spent 2 hrs a day in the game working the TP. Both of them told me they were making 1k gold a week from this and this was over 1 year ago. Eventually they bought everything they wanted and quit playing the game all together but man that TP.

Rozbuska.5263:

Down state have its place in pvp but there should be some changes.
- Killing downed player should ress only one person not everyone who hit him
- Ressing speed should not be affected by Quickness or any other way
- Ressing speed must be slower while ressing invulnerable or in stealth
- All classes should have simillar posibilities while downed. Stuff like mist form, teleport or revenge ar too superior to others. Also ranger pet what is capable of overheal damage of multiple ppl should not have place in competetive gameplay.

disagree with all of this

If warriors,thieves,mesmer down skills are messing you up, you might need to practice against other players in 1 vs 1 situations when they are downed.

Like 1 vs 1 with ranger i know he has 1 interupt so i go for the stomp. I know its condi damage so if i have a condi removal skill i use it after the interupt. WHen the pet goes to heal i simply interrupt the pet with a push/pull/knockback/daze/stun and then you finish them.

Or you simply just use stability

Burtnik.5218:

kdaddy.5431:

Koru.8574:

i like to see this removed too, it has no place in pvp

yeah who wants team play

Oh look..someone enjoys current meta.

If you go back and look at some of my complaints about the new specs back in beta i had these complaints about the potential upcoming meta. I said what made D/D ele so gross was its ability to have all the boons/speed/dps/condi dmg and it gave nothing up.

I specially complained about scrapper saying they had perma everything. Anet did nothing to that class and actually added more the other classes besides warrior and thief.

Back to the topic which is the down state. Its always been a huge part of team game play. Before this meta and the rev it wasnt a issue it was a L2P issue. Mesmer/rev have made rezzing alot easier for teams and because of it the elite ESL teams cant kill each other in this bunker meta.

That doesnt change the importance of it. Also its a big indicator of skill level for me. For instance if i get downed by the stairs right outside the circle and i have 2 team mates who dont go for the rez i know they probably are either selfish/new/ or not very good at PvP.

Also before the HOT expansion their were support builds that had rezzing as a big factor of the build. Acting like downstate is not a good thing is dumb.

Simply ask anet to fix the stomp bugs, balance classes, etc etc etc.

Asking anet to remove is never the answer being we now dont have 2 PvP maps we use to have and many including myself would at least like to see them in rotation in unranked.

Yasi.9065:

Thing is, knowing basics in pvp matches has nothing to do with profession played.

Knowing when to rotate where, knowing when to disengage… knowing when to go for beast… knowing which skills to interrupt, when to attack and when to stow weapons… all things that help IMMENSELY. And have nothing to do with profession played.

But then, thats also stuff about 80% of gw2 pvp players dont know…. so whatever.

This is true aswell but

Im playing people in ruby/diamond/legendary and every other game im seeing Duo Ques from people in the ESL league and there not on my team which becomes a huge PiP thing for me.

There have been a few times a legendary thief was on my team and i was like WOW but the majority of people cant play 1/2 as well as them. Then you add the fact that at the high level games everyone is kind of on the same page even solo queing and not saying anything but 1-2 people played a class for fun and everyone quickly realized they cant play at this level with that class.

Certainly there are alot of people who excel at many classes so i dont know how you grade this but i know for myself i can not play warrior, thief,mesmer,guardian at the same level as ele,necro,ranger in the current meta.

Im not suggesting much and actually would like to hear some ideas.

For instance ive seen caed and toker on there thiefs in ranked PvP matches and no one is questioning there abilities to get to legendary rank on thief.

But Johhny 2 knifes your like ok lets see how this goes and he dies instantly where ever he goes. Your like he does not play thief for real. Im just want anet to look at this since they have this AP system and people skill level on different classes are all over the place.

Its kind of funny because everyone who posted here basically said they have carried there team mates to the division they have gotten too.

hmmmmmm i wonder how many of these people have been teamed together.

Koru.8574:

i like to see this removed too, it has no place in pvp

yeah who wants team play