maybe but axe was and they weren’t real beastmaster to begin with, just some sword fencers with a housecat.
You want a beastmaster? Then your suppose to run a build 100% pet reliant and that wasn’t the case with sword. Sword was more of an hybrid then a true BM
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On the release time you guys sent a lovely cap for character head with the guild wars 2 logo on it.
So here it comes that i put it on my main character an asura necro and the cap item is ‘’Deleted from my character’’ when the patch that changed the town clothe to a single slot appeared. That day i lost the Halloween devil horn and the guild wars 2 fan cap. While i don’t realy care about the devil horn im most upset something so valuable as that guild wars 2 logo cap was deleted from my account by a patch so is there any way you can send me back a copy of it or something.
NOTE: I played the guild wars 2 open beta and you likely can check out my account creation date just to make sure I was eligible.
I tried the town clothe black lion vendor and it didn’t work or gave me back my guild wars 2 logo cap.
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Lets be honest close to all our elite moves are totally useless. They don’t even fit the job as utility less of all elites to the point racial moves are better. Cant you either reinforce the elemental or give us some mega strong arcane spell?
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they do land especialy once the guy has been knocked down is feared by my pet or took my point blank shot in the face and i have had no issue beating the pulp out of player that as you say think they can just dodge the spike. Using rapid fire in the blind is a poor move you need to CC the target first so to make sure it eats it entirely.
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and the next day ranger will discover running 2h sword with a longbow is an unstoppable beast able to mapwide escape and block attacks. Ive ran it and i never felt more alive playing my ranger main then now. Note that i wish they also increased axe in some way because splitblade is still horrible.
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well mystery solved the guy is actualy gaining like 5 might per rupt no wonder I got nearly 3 second wrecked. On a side note this looks like a very interesting build to run I could try that with a rupting focused build.
Also yea it was Hotjoin. I never got my back handled over by a Mesmer harder in my life.
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And Mesmer has all the clone positioning, the right skill usage and the long cooldown utilities to setup one of the most easily avoidable burts in the game (that may not even burst someone entirely).
That wont be avoidable if your stunned in the middle of it while frozen crippled and dazed. Shatter mesmer arent an issue as a general rule because as you say you can dodge them get out of immobilize with a cond cleanse etcé
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To have a clear idea of what you complain against you must first have played the profession yourself. I worked realy hard to learn about all and any profession mechanics because knowledge is power when fighting against them. Knowing their cooldowns ability and available builds help to counter them better. On a side note before complaining about a class mechanics you should first study it deeply.
For instance if i complained about warrior Hambow having to much damage id need to pull of why and how it makes them strong for nothing. If a character who runs on a tanky set (not as in condition damage but more as a knight/soldier style maybe even cleric) can nearly equalise or even outshine the damage of a full glass cannon build in the same class witheout sacrificing any survivability then likely it is overpowered and needs to be toned down some way.
Most people on the forum complain on empty facts (such as the dude killed me!) and conjecture what you should bring on the table is actualy how the guy did it with what skill in what situation and what build you were using so that people can gauge your odds. In the case that you were more then able to handle the situation you likely just got outplayed but if the guy globaled a fully geared character speced correctly and using his ability at the right time either the guy was to good or you werent good enought. In the end proof and fact needs to be proven by playing the broken build yourself or by showing a video of how it is done (aka for instance that lovely video of a troll thief killing whole bunch of people in wvw with a single weapon and no off hand, funny thing is the same guy killed people with firework after but meh)
Sometime by playing the very build that destroyed you you can learn its hard counters. Spirit ranger for exemple has several weakness that can be exploited such as AOE attack.
Thing is you cant accuse witheout facts else how are you realy sure of what your writing about in the first place.
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Warrior will take at least 10 second to kill you even with its best dps
A single rapid fire wont take out a player youl need more damage then that
Fear spam necro deals dot damage if you got some condi cleanse youl likely break the hell out of him anyway
Against that its realy called pop stability or dodge the signet.
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Ranger dont one shot
Hambow dont one shot
Fear necro dont one shot
All those CC build takes serious time dealing their full dps and can be countered easily by simply dodging in the middle of the combo, theres no dodging to that thing however only a CC break or a stability and god knows you dont have an endless supply of them, all he ned to do is use 1 signet and your wide open to prety much all the rest.
So now prety much.. oh well dodge the signet if you can see it coming?
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Because everything is already usable, so buffing a spec means making it optimal, and thus forcing everyone to play the way you want to play. You know, play how I, me, and myself want.
Not if they all equal it indeed mean you can play what you want and that i can play what i want and all that witheout anyone judging or hating. If you wanted to play sword ranger its all fine but axe ranger should be equaly viable as a choice for an effective character in a party as an option for people that DONT want to play sword ranger. Everyone should be able to play how they want witheout penality or the impending menace of behing rejected. I aint forcing you to play my playstyle neither should you force me to play yours with the menace that if i dont i wont get a party. Your litteraly forcing people to play your way just so they can do end game content how is this not a form of blackmail and intimidation.
You hate that wich isnt efficient but what if everything was actualy efficient?
Look its obvious that a guy running a condition damage weapon should clearly wear condition damage gear but theres absolutely no reason NONE why two berserker geared characters both relying on heavy damaging mechanics shouldnt be close or next to equal in effectiveness. Also no reason why one build should have more advantage then another still well made build.
Do you have something against the other spec of a same profession behing as optimal as the one you use right now? Because i think it should work that way. This isnt world of warcraft where your stuck playing a single role and even then within the same class theres 3 defrent spec the same character may do.
There is multiple way to deal dps you know not just one.
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No honestly it didnt work i guildmastered the inquest for a few month but no asura wanted to join save for the crazies lvl one.. maybe thats why my army of evil is so weak.
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I just skipped over the thread, so i might miss something but judging from your signature you are a ranger?
Both Signet of Stone and Lightning Reflexes counter a mesmer burst and can be used at any time even while stunned. Shatter mesmers got 1 burst every ~10s which is quite telegraphed and can be easily avoided most of the time.
On top of that, a shatter mesmer is about the squishiest build in GW2, maybe tied with glass thieves (they have less hp, but more armor and can trait for 100% crit backstabs, thus not needing to stack precision).
Maybe the mesmer got incredibly lucky with his chaos storm. It procs 1 out of chilled, poison, weakness and daze every second and always seems to screw me over. He outplayed/-lucked you and instead of qq’ing you should try to get better, like we all do.
actualy on that fight i was running an elementalist and my arcane shield got bursted within seconds. If i was a cantrip i could have blinked away but i actualy run arcane lightning in a fresh air build here. Dont say me to get armor of earths or to equip mist form those cantrips are realy awfull unless you plan on doing a trolling session altrought i guess i could use having a way out of this kind of mess instead of my free to cast when immobilized behind or long ranged arcane bolt (even in this case mist form is such a bad skill x.x). The warrior by my side however had little excuse for getting destroyed this quickly.
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Issue you might have is some people actualy know how to play meta but refuse to do so. What do you think will happen if you actualy get matched up with a axe ranger who despite knowing all to well the build has serious teamwork issue still wants to play it? Especialy if the so called axe ranger also know all to well how to play his class as well as all the mechanics involving meta the guy might just as well be using frost spirit but may not have other stuffs and or may not even run the meta weapon (small exemple).
I mean its casual guys. You have no idea what kind of mess you might get yourself into including staff guardian, hammer warriors, Phantasm mesmers, MM necros or it might even be Flamethrower enginer. The casual community isnt as caring for meta as is the premade team dungeon runners, the moment you go into casual territory you enter a totaly new world.
(yes im still haunting the forum and no i dont plan participating in this event)
Keep in mind the moment it becomes as organised as to use premade teams composition its prety much no longuer a pug but a premade. You no longuer running with random people at this point and the only factor is dungeon knowledge something that only one of the 5 player in the team need to possess.
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At this point why bother running a pet specialist ranger?
There is a really simple answer to that question, but only you will be able to answer it for yourself.
The question is why having 4 marksmanship should be more important then having put it anywhere else, they should actualy give incentive to run multiple defrent stuff not niche classes into one trick ponies. There should be other buff in other trait line wich may or may not be compatible with current meta so to give options to bring something defrent (sure you wont be able to have them all and by far you shouldnt but it would assure everyone can actualy bring something usefull. I dont mind bringing in a party wide buff long as its in my chosen traitline cept the only traitline that has a buff in the whole ranger list is the one line ill never use on this character (how ironic).
The second question is why do you people are actualy anoyed that someone would request uneficient pve build to be buffed to actualy become efficient. What do you have to lose? This would not weaken your own build in the first place, only promote the use of more options.
Meta dps will always exist thats sure but it would be less of a pain for dungeon runners not running the meta on purpose if the defrence in effectiveness wasnt this large between builds. Sure its all right that your build does more damage, but if the defrence was only of about 5% between two build and both brought in a defrent interesting features im prety much sure you wouldnt see the defrence between those 2 build and two defrent classes.
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Make a dredge snowy land, flying dredge, underwater dredges and you may as well make tentacle dredge elicit themed area with jade maw.
Oh and since you at it make a map where dredges kill trahearne in a extradimension where trahearne is actualy the replacement for scarlet and you got to help them kill him or this wont end well.
Problem comrade?
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I told you i was stunlocked in the middle of chaos storm by a mind wrack by a 2h sword staff mesmer within 3 second. Its not called behing bad its just called eating a nuke in the face when not expecting it from a class that in most spvp situation actualy just ends up behing a simple endurance routine.
Yup, that one battle against that single mesmer, makes the entire profession OP.
Personally I use a stun breaker, then dodge roll out of the chaos storm. But your right. since you totally didn’t do that, the entire profession as a whole is OP and needs a great big nerf so that you can beat that one single player.
I never said the class was OP this isnt even my topic i just posted a message in it to say there indeed are some very dangerous mesmer build running amok around. I said it before and ill say it twice again because people cant seem to read the entire topic and only jump on people at random like a mob of angry bees. I respect mesmer player and NO i dont think they should be nerfed but i think there should be some added counterplay to this kind of crap. I didnt say to nerf mesmer i said to buff stun breaker to a small stability like window of like 1 or 2 second after using one so to prevent over application. Now why dont you actualy go and hate on the bad guardian who actualy made this topic in the first place?
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This would highly help against very bad ranger who seems to cant switch from longbow to sword or 2h sword at time. Longbow isnt the world you know.
As for me? Thieve just dont exist i destroy them when they show up because they so squishy that the moment i get even the slightlest window i need to stun only one time to chain them 15k damage in.
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When game released i trolled a lot of warrior with this kind of thing and i dare say 20 full seconds of weakness is kind of funny. Since pistol is a ranged weapon i would think runes like givers would make a easy way of condi removal.
I inspired myself from the moggle gunner from final fantasy tactics advanced when making this thing as i felt pistol shouldve been a status master.
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I told you i was stunlocked in the middle of chaos storm by a mind wrack by a 2h sword staff mesmer within 3 second. Its not called behing bad its just called eating a nuke in the face when not expecting it from a class that in most spvp situation actualy just ends up behing a simple endurance routine.
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Oh, so you’re complaining because support is too important for you. You feel like you shouldn’t support your party by taking spotter. Wich is exactly the opposite of what you were saying. So, there’s a way to increase your party dps and you don’t want to take it. Don’t? Your char won’t disapear magically because you didn’t trait for spotter.
It’s pathetic. You said support should be more important, and then after we gave you proof it was the most important thing in the game, you ask for a nerf. Then you insult speedrunning, even though you have 0 experience in speedruns, dungeons, pve, or even the game in general. You rant about how spotter is necessary when taking a ranger in a speedrun, even if you will never ever attempt one. You want any selfish spec to deal the same result as a real spec. The amount of stupid here is Bjarl level. There’s hundreds of alternatives to spotter, and if you made a trait mandatory, let’s say a spotterII trait, everyone would take it and you will come on the forum ranting how you can’t use the original spotter. Please. Stop.
What tells you i got 0 experiance? Just because i dont want to run the meta ranger doesnt mean i dont run other meta class for pve endgame (note that i did play end level fractals i just dont like running them on warrior only and constantly with the same boring build). Ive been here since release and the reason i dont run spotter is because i dont run marksmanship to begin with and thats because i run beast mastery. You cant basicaly run 4 marks and have 5 skirm 3 nature and 6 Bm at the same time. The fact that spotter is in the one traitline i dont trait in is kind of a serious issue to my build because i indeed cant take it. In theory this means i cant actualy run both BM and spotter at the same time wich is kind of hilarously ironic because just to run spoter id likely have to downscale my pet damage by about 150 power and precision so to gain a barely better auto attack damage and grant ally a what +5 chance to crit? Spotter is only viable in a build that actively use the ranger itself as the damage source wich automaticaly removes axe build from the chart despite their easy access to might.
They should indeed give more explanation on combo fields at the start of the game for all those people that just started playing. They also should largely improve condition damage in pve as well as stuff that currently dont scale up as easily as brute strenght build does. I can only hope a new AI will actualy help make variety amonst the many availlable meta.
Also thanks to the fact meta proc might to the whole party, multiple class stuff such as might to pet on crit and from axe AA becomes nearly automaticaly obsolete. At this point why bother running a pet specialist ranger? Running that build however works very well in pugs where a 25 teamwide migh stack isnt garenteed. Considering i rarely with anything else then pugs as ive not myself joined a dungeon running guild or ever been interested into one my build remains adequate but i must admit that in any combination of organised team it would have several crippling lacunes.
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If he was running a GS/Staff combination, it could have been a shatter spec 4-4-0-0-6 for the damage you mentioned. If thats the case, then the only way he could of stunned you would have been with Signet of Domination.
Signet of Domination is a default 3 second stun with the Sigil Paralyzation that would bump it up to ~ 4 seconds (every 45 seconds). With 4 in domination, the vulnerability would have had to come from a combination of "Daze’s AND “Interrupts”.
So basically, this guy would have had to do some work to get all those vulnerability stacks and then time his SignetOfDom/Mirror Blade/Mind Spike/Mind Wrack to do this “oneshot” every 45 seconds.
So yes its possible a Mesmer could do this…
Finaly someone here could actualy theorise something for this. All i know was that i indeed got hit with a VERY long stun duration and took about the full power of a 20k damage in the face along with a hit from mantra of distraction. So yea that the guy was running that signet do is possible. +1 slim
In wich case that would explain both the ridiculus stun duration and his ability to pop tons of clone. Well i guess the other guy that did NOT get stunned by the signet was just utherly bad because he could have moved out of the aoe with ease, i just figured he got just as controled as i was. Regardless thanks for actualy finding the issue now i know all i need to do to break that ’’bleep’’ build is to stun break that one signet and dodge out.
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I think you dont realy see the defrence between behing powerless to fight back in a nuking chain (its like a rogue with 6 use of 1 second basilisk venom with you only having 1 stun breaker) and getting hit and killed by a bullrushing 2h sword warrior because you reacted poorly to the obvious combo. One is that the chain isnt obvious and is prety much instant casted with next to no tell second is that im not talking about daze but stun here wich means not only you got no ability but cannot move either.
The last time such thing did exist it was called 1 shot BS thieves. I praise his ingeniosity but i still think a 5 second stacking duration stun is somewhat overboard.
It would probably be very obvious if you were more familiar with mesmers. How much time have you spent playing a mesmer? How many different builds have you run in pvp for a decent amount of time? Did you pm the mesmer and ask about their build, or ask to duel them 1v1 to learn how to fight it? Or did you immediately come to the forums to complain because you are so good that something must be broken for you to get beaten?
if we count it prety much the time it takes to lvl from 1 to 80 and it is on all classes. I thanks the other guy for pointing out i have 1 more zero then necesary but no im far from new and ive been playing since the release of the game. As for maximum trait yea im perfectly aware he cant have more then 13 point wich indeed means he either has deceptive evasion and do NOT have 6 in the last line or do not have deceptive evasion at all in wich case his build is hardly any more crippled because all he need is to score the damage once. Take note that he already add at least two clone out before even nuking so likely hes running some utility that helps him proc what hes missing. As i said hes not a normal shatter build at all and even runs mantra of distraction so you gota account for the free daze he can or not initiate with.
Ive ran spvp for at least a full year and a lot of build to. While mesmer was not my main (warrior and rangers are) i still do understand most of the concept behind it.
I tried to 1 v 1 him several time and when asking about his build he said he would not reveal it because it was some kind of super secret junk he recently made and wanted to keep it as such. I can only figure he doesnt run the regular shatter at all its more based on permastunning then on dealing direct damage and likely he has very little self survivability (Im to wonder what his bomber build is worth if he fails it but i could tell by his score it doesnt fail often)
Note that hes been very vocal in the map chat about how he created some kind of monster and been destroying tons of people with it. I wouldnt had bothered mentioning it on the forum if the guy didnt had been such an anoying prick. Also note that im not the OP of this topic i just noticed it existed and wrote that i did cross path with some kind of circus phenomenom unstoppable mesmer able to single handlely take down 2 player including a bunker guarding a point within 3 second. I dont play guardian in pvp either so if you want to give advice to a guardian your post are likely for the OP not me
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I couldnt see his entire build only figure he clearly had at least 6 0 0 0 0 that he wielded a greatsword stacked vuln like crazy and used a staff in off hand clearly with a zerker composition. As far as i know ive got no clue if he actualy ran 0 0 0 0 6 all i know is he overdpsed so much he litteraly killed 2 people in 3 second and several time all while praising his darn build all around.
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Well funny because they didnt promote it at all on their main page. Well at least they helping and rewarding their hard working player somewhat. If i didnt specificaly had seen the topic before in the dungeon forum i might have totaly ignored it.
Anet clearly intend to reinforce supportive role however and you only need to check at the trait they have created to confirm it, worse yet they recently created mobs with retaliation and other ridiculously physical build harming ability. Healing people with death shroud strike? Water ele healing to ally? Either anet is making ’’bad’’ trait on purpose or its trying to send a message.
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I think you dont realy see the defrence between behing powerless to fight back in a nuking chain (its like a rogue with 6 use of 1 second basilisk venom with you only having 1 stun breaker) and getting hit and killed by a bullrushing 2h sword warrior because you reacted poorly to the obvious combo. One is that the chain isnt obvious and is prety much instant casted with next to no tell second is that im not talking about daze but stun here wich means not only you got no ability but cannot move either.
The last time such thing did exist it was called 1 shot BS thieves. I praise his ingeniosity but i still think a 5 second stacking duration stun is somewhat overboard.
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ive killed a lot of unprepared enginer by switching between longbow and GS, its all about cycling cooldown block and interupt. Most idiots assume ranger that use longbow only use one weapon and not both, well they are sadly mistaken.
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You dont always have those cooldown ready especialy invuln wich have way long cooldown.
Also i have no issue with how to beat mesmer its called jump them from behind their back and chain damage their face while puting a target over their head so to make sure everyone focus them at the same time. Also keep an invulnerability out in case off.
Ive killed shatter build before (god so squishy) im just saying that one had more CC then i could handle in a normal mesmer encounter situation.
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I dont think you have the correct definition of the word bad. The build work as intended altrought it is not appropriate for a player created situation wich only exist in the so called player mind.
Also did Anet actualy do any promotion of this on their main site? Not that i recall and the main page annoucement is prety much blank about it. They are way to busy announcing wvw and spvp tournament. Fact is they likely dont care if you do a third party tournament but dont disaprove it either.
As said its hosted by DnT not by anet.
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Right now if im to point it out beastmaster traits are completely useless
1. natural healing: not strong enought pet dies way to easily
2. Stability training: twice as useless and its not even permanant why would you trait for that thing anyway.
3. Invigorating bond: Couldve been usefull if not for the crazy 20 second cooldown
4. Master bond: obvious reason
5. Compasion training: why would pet gain healing power if it cant heal in the first place for 90% of the species
What i propose
Grandmaster
1. Predatory bond: After using a healing skill pet leech life and grant 300 hp to the ranger for the next 10 hit (replace the heal on pet ability junk and makes heal as one viable thanks to its very rapid cooldown)
2. Dire beast: When using a shout pet gains the benefit from signet of the wild (replace the heal over time for pet junk now xfered to an adept trait)
3. Nature wrath: is exchanged with fortifying bond and nature wrath now grants power based on vitality (what is that thing doing in the nature magic in the first place!)
Master
1. Stability training: pet is immune to crowd control and movement impairing effect
Adept
1. Master bond: redone how the trait work this ability stacks now remain until ranger is downed
2. Compasion training: Pet now recover health over time as the natural healing trait and gain +350 to the healing stat (this thing never shouldve been a GM trait in the first place it definitively lack efficiency as the heal is both minimal and relatively unrequired since it only heals the pet)
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what about as a grandmaster that pet gain permanant stability and immunity to cripple? Name of the talent would be ‘’On all four’’ Periodic stability is just stupidly weak for a grandmaster it should be permanant or grant the ranger the bonus in question but i have an even better idea.
How about when using a pet skill all pet attack leech life and grants it to you for x seconds (as in very high life leech the grand return of the heal as one elite from guild wars one?)
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I dont see any Anet post in this topic save for the one saying it should be in the dungeon forum. So how does this make it any official especialy since the tread maker is a player. Proving your point yet? Because it looks like unoficial stuff to me. A third party site making contest etc doesnt necesarily means Anet is in the plot.
Also small reminder,
Anet has nerfed many dungeon shortcut
Anet has nerfed various dungeon running build in the past in some case litteraly ruining them to the point of behing unusable.
Anet has nerfed critical damage recently and might do it again
Im not so sure Anet aproves of stacking in the corner and avoiding all their well planned mechanics when fighting bosses.
They may not be firmly against it but they sure aint helping speedclear dungeon runners right now. Also bad build is only true depending on the point of view over the situation. You cant consider a build bad just because it doesnt rely on a glass cannon principe far from that it is of poor choice for the circonstance but it doesnt mean its wrong by default.
Also you should try and use more words then just ’’bad’’.
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