Ya I mean at any given time, you are allowed to join say 25 us server instance of lonar pass and maybe a few more instance of overflow. That isn’t a wrong way to use the term.
Not saying that GW2 is intanced. But you can choose the instance you want to be in.
And it just happened the few instance that can down the world boss are usually the same. So people are complaining that they want to be in those instance or their home instanced with friend instead of the other failure one.
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^ quite honestly if you read your own first post it is off topic. You are talking about doing something else, when that is not even the topic.
The topic is when he tried to zone in, he get put into the empty zone because he didn’t wait for an hour.
instancing is at least related. I would say it is much more related than your topic of doing something else instead of waiting.
Having it instanced might well solve HIS problem but it might also create a problem for half the player base. In which case that’s putting one person’s needs in front of another.
It’s already creating problem for half of the player base. In order to succeed, they have to join the few server that can do it. Or join TTS.
Most people can’t even join the good server without being taxied even if they wait for ever, because all they get is server error when the queue popup.
And the only reason TTS works isn’t because it is open world, it is because GW2 have multi guild function and guesting.
Maybe he actually went to do other things instead of waiting for an hour. Trying to zone back and discover his in an overflow with himself.
That being said. Other things could mean cook dinner or wash dishes. That’s what I usually do.
The problem is too many people want things to hand to them. So they just join the good server or TTS. Because beside those server or TTS, the success rate is pretty bad.
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I can get enough molten, atetherblade, watchwork, toxic. Since I got enough from the scarlet spare keys.
But I can’t seem to get enough of the scarlet lockbox code fragment.
I’m not sure how many character slot I have. Maybe 39? maybe 14 lvl80.
I actually play my characters. 8 of them have map completion. A bunch in the process of finishing map completion.
I have 9 perma bank access.
The truth is I don’t need 9 perma bank access. It’s not like you ahve time to play 22 lvl80 everyday.
I think most people just play maybe 3 or 4 characters everyday anyway. That being said 3 or 4 perma bank license isn’t cheap.
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I didn’t say anything about removing guesting.
I’m just saying open world boss is in other game. They works much better than that in GW2 because GW2 have a guesting function.
I didn’t say any remove guesting is a good idea.
I dont’ agree with the “everyone” part. It does make “many” people unhappy though.
Many people are actually happy since they can finally afford the dye pack now.
I think the living story actually delivers a lot of content. Most mmorpg delivers patch every 4-6 month. I would think 8-12 living story is equate to content patch of most other mmorpg.
The problem is living story is temporary. I take a break from GW2 for a few month. Came back expecting an “expansion worth of content”, when all there is are 2 raid boss.
Actually this event has served to only strengthen the community of my server. We’ve had more people in our ts than ever before and a primarily positive review altogether. Sorry to hear it’s not working that way for others.
I don’t think that’s what the OP literally means
He means the “guesting function” breaks the server community. This world raid boss would work better if people can’t guest.
But Anet can’t just take out the guesting function for the raid boss.
It’s not like Anet could remove guesting just for the raid boss.
But I think the OP is right. Open world boss isn’t new. It actually works pretty well in other mmorpg because “you can’t guest”. People would actually come together server wise to kill world boss.
But with guesting, people’ll just guest to the “better” server.
If you really want to kill those boss so badly. You can try join organized server or guild(TTS).
I never succeeded in the Twisted Marionette event. But when I am dedicated enough to find the success server, I just go there 1 hour before it start and finish it without a problem.
Already tyres this. You still have to hope he other lanes know what they are doing. And seeing as I can only guest on 2 server a day. Kinda hard to fine a “winning” server.
I’ll give you a hint. The winning server is almost always the same server. you can check which server is the winning server just go to dragon timer etc. It showed which server success the last event.
I’m a constant visitor to mmorpg.com. The way I see it all game forums are filled with complaint. I havn’t play a single mmorpg forum which isn’t spamed by complaints.
Because to be honest. Only complainer logs of the forum. If the game is interested enough you’ll be playing the game instead of browsing the forum…
Which reminds me I probably spend more time on the forum than playing GW2….
There will be no destiny’s edge 2.0. Rox, Braham, Marjory, Kasmeer will join the original destiny’s edge.
Kralkatorrik will start to rise from the south, and Jormag from the north.
The main story follows as the new members fought of the dragons. The original destiny’s edge will be assigned to stay at the capital citys because of the invasion…
As Scarlet(can she die already?) sends her minions invading Black Citadel, Divinity’s reach… The original destiny’s edge will be occupied to protect the city, while the newly join member are assigned the duty to fight off the dragon.
^ I didnt’ do any champ train. But I’m still a complete newbie when I step in my first dungeon. You just over think things too much.
And a lvl80 newbie in wvw is the much better than a level1 newbie in wvw
I see the open world before the queensdale train start. I can’t say I find that much difference.
There are some people farming Kessex Hill event before that is not there anymore. But that’s all the difference I saw.
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If you really want to kill those boss so badly. You can try join organized server or guild(TTS).
I never succeeded in the Twisted Marionette event. But when I am dedicated enough to find the success server, I just go there 1 hour before it start and finish it without a problem.
Well Feb 1 isn’t too far away. Guess you can sign a registration.
I think the problem is a huge percent of people training isn’t even level 80.
Many people use it to level up.
How is that a problem when players like myself have multiple alts? Are we all supposed to be forced to play content we don’t like? Just because a character is not a level 80 does not mean they are a new player.
I’m just responding to the guy above me. He says move the queensdale train from queensdale to frostgorge. So it don’t interrupt the newbies.
I’m just telling him that dont’ work. Since people use it to lvl up not to farm gold. A lvl1 can’t enter frostgorge.
basically have a few people that know how to do the event. and the rest read the map chat.
I think the problem is a huge percent of people training isn’t even level 80.
Many people use it to level up. So obviously they won’t zerg back to orr or frostgorge because they arnt’ even lvl80.
You dont’ know the power of not having a sub fee means. Most likely GW2 will have a much easier time keeping people because of that.
GW2 will also try to release the game in other region so that’ll stay put for a while.
You can also guest to another big server like Deso/Blackgate, if you are willing to wait for 1 hour or so in advance you can usually get into the main map by asking for a ferry on their TS.
You can’t go to main map with taxi if you are from a different server. You can only use taxi to go to overflows.
Is that something Anet changed? I’m not aware of that. It’s not like this before.
In all fairness, I dont think the reward is any good even if you succeed. You might as well follow the champ farm train or what ever the flavor of month money making scheme is.
Anet did make an interview saying they’d change the living story format after march, and make larger patch.
I didn’t like the living story before. But I get to love it. Because I’m too old to do any grinding content.
I just do the living story once get the achievement and I’m done for half a month.
I thought TTS let anyone in. At least that’s what someone told me before. Guess things changed.
If you are dedicated enough, maybe you can make a 2nd raid guild. Call it WTS[Wurm Terror Squad]
The champ train isn’t “fine” in a design sense. It provides enjoyable play for some people, people who like mindlessly following a rotation, but it takes people away from the intended end game content and those premium open world events suffer from lack of numbers.
Quite honestly the open world is as empty as before the champ train is introduced.
All the champ train does is take the event train from kissex hill in to queensdale.
To summarize the complaint is people saw the train and think it breaks “immersion”. So they want it to stop.
To be honest, other mmorpg are making more than GW2 from micro transaction. I’m talking about subscription and freemium games in which most people already are paying a subscription.
It is hard to complain when that’s the case.
The description of the dye packs in the gem store is pretty darn explanatory.
‘Contains one random armor dye from a pool of 25 colors that includes six new, exclusive colors.’
At least 19/25 chances to get a dye other than one of the exclusive ones. I guess people don’t read what they are actually buying. You can’t really blame ArenaNet for that.
You should reread what I wrote. Which clearly showed the problem. The chance to get the rare dye is not 6/25. It is much lower than that.
People think there are 25 dyes so all dye have the same chance of dropping. It’s not.
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^ I don’t think that’s the problem there.
Obviously many people have problem with RNG.
But another problem is Anet dont’ release the odds of the RNG.
Many people that look at the ads first would have think the ods of all dye are the same. Which is clearly not the case.
I understand the Anet is a business part. Quite honestly, Anet isn’t even pushing the cashshop that much compare to some other mmorpg. It’s hard to blame Anet when some of their competition are much more shady(and in turn make more money).
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I dont’ think people understand why casino always win.
Casino always win because people dont’ stop till they are all out of money.
The problem is not RNG. The problem is there is no indication on the chance to get the rare dye. So people are mislead that the chance to get rare dye and common dye are the same.
If I have known the chance to get the rare dye is lower than the common dye, I wouldn’t buy them from the cash shop. I learnd it the hard way.
I actually timed it before. I think I level faster just doing map completion.
But that is because I did map completion a bunch of times already, so I know the map inside out.
My first time doing map completion is obviously much slower.
Actually I’m not sure if champ train is the fastest way to level.
I felt I level roughly at the same speed doing map completion. That being said I have like 13 lvl80 with 8 of them finished with map completion. So I know the map inside out.
That being said, I think you get more loot(gold) from champ farming.
Also I didn’t do champ farm to level up. But I’m still a complete newbie when I first step in GW2 dungeon.
^ I get the RPG part. I think you forget about the MMO part.
Base on my addicted forum crawling experience. There are really a bunch of complaint about GW2’s starting and mid area being empty.
I’m just a bit dismayed that they’re expecting so many people to participate. I mean, the mari requires something like 75-125 people to do, and that’s a /lot/ of people. In my experience playing mmos, it’s difficult to even get enough people to make two full raid groups of 20 people, for example. What are they going to do if interest drops?
good thing there’s guesting.
I think guesting is the crop of the problem though. Since the real people that want to down wurm focus more on finding the right people to group with(aka get in the good instance), instead of trying to do it with their own server.
Problem, which your post doesn’t address: ensuring that condition is a matter of luck, because the event is open world.
And yet it was completed within a week of release, by a server that have several hours long overflows. So clearly the issue is not as big as people in this thread make it out to be.
That means the raid is actually too easy for coordinate group. And too hard for non coordinate group.
They might as well make an instanced version harder, and a non-instanced version easier.
Qutie honest I dont’ care about the wurm. Just pointing out a better solution.
I can’t remember the last time a new players actually complain about the queensdale train.
I think the people complaining about queensdale train isn’t even newbie.
The majority of the complaint I heard is about the lack of people in the other zones. At least newbies have people to play with if that’s what they choose now.
Open world raid isn’t new. There are far less complaining on games which “they can’t guest”. So they have to stick to their own server.
And the boss dont’ despawn if fails. So people can keep trying. They just have a respawn timer.
You actually rarely hear people complaining about instanced raid in other mmorpg. But people complain about the open world raid here.
I think instanced raid is obviously better. The problem is the game was kind of advertised as no raid. It’s weird they actually go the other way, kind of like the ascended gear dilema.
I don’t think instanced raid would work in GW2. Simply because Anet developer said there will be no raid. And no they are actually implementing them(open world raid).
I don’t even know warrior are better than rogue in wvw/pvp now.
Things must change so much.
Yes I get you Vayne. I’m just pointing out if there is not a problem. There wont’ be this many people complaining.
There are actually quite a bit of people that dont’ like the way things are implemented.
And the main reason things work in GW2 is because of multi guild design. And actually the raid isn’t that difficult compare to those other games. Take that away, it’s just like the other mmorpg.
TTS gets people on their own server, so that they get get more people into the fight, among other things.
So if you are not in TTS you can’t do the raid content? That is exactly what is happening. Since people not in TTS can’t down the boss.
The truth is there are probably more people doing instanced raid in other game than this open world raid boss in GW2.
All I’m saying is this “design the game for 5%-10%” you said is actually what is happening.
I get it you like this open world raid thing. You can’t deny there are probably as much people who disagree with you. Since there are(not necessary me) who don’t like this open world raid boss.
I’m saying you always support the things you like only. You never listen to other people and just think other people are just wrong.
When the reality they are just people that might not like the things you like.
I don’t mind hard core content. I don’t want to see it hidden away in instances, that’s all.
They are already hidden in instanced called “elite server only” and “TTS overflow”.
Please taxi me in there.
Not that I think there is any easy fix to the current problem.
Except anyone can join TTS and get taxied there. There’s no 40 player limit. Do you know how many times I was on the second overflow, and both beat Tequatl?
That is like saying anyone can join a guild to do instanced raid. Do you know there are times I can’t do Tequatl because the TTS instance is full? Oh wait, I need to join 1 hour prior to the instance start and maybe I’ll have a chance.
You said there are times the 2nd overflow works, that’s like saying there are times it fail too.
I’m not saying to Anet to make instanced raid. I’m saying those open world raid are already like instanced raid.
I’ve never had to join TTS to get there one hour before an event. Certainly not Teq anyway.
However, we have filled a server and started another one. We’ve had three.
Try that with a raid. 50 people in your guild, 30 raid, and 20 are like but what about us?
It doesn’t work. It’s a bad defense. At least with TTS you have far less of a chance of getting locked out.
And if you don’t think raids take a lot of time to set up, you haven’t done many.
I never defend instanced raid. I’m saying you are already doing instanced raid.
You join a guild called TTS. Everyone try to find an instance for yourself. So they can leave the unwanted people out.
Maybe Anet should stop making content for the 5-10% of the people who join TTS. Or maybe like 1% or less. Like you said.
ps. Maybe they should actually make Tequatl instanced for hardcore guild such as TTS. ANd make an easy version for the rest of people. Please stop making “casual people” do this coordinate hardcore open world boss which just doesn’t work.
What unwanted people? Who’s denied access to that guild? It’s quite a bad analogy if you ask me. I’ve seen what raiding guilds are like. I’ve seen what TTS is like. I don’t even see how you can compare them.
Dude why did TTS need to get their own people to their own freaking overflow to do the content. They want to get rid of the unwanted people.
I don’t have any problem with Anet designing anything. I’m not a game designer, what the heck do I know.
It’s just everything you said is already happening. The content is only doable for those 5-10% or is that like 1% of the people. Tell me what percent of people playing GW2 is actually in TTS.
Everything you said about inclusion and Anet making content for those few percentage of people is already happening. Oh ya you forget TTS “is” a raiding guild. They dont’ want to play with other scrub. So they make their own guild so they can get rid of scrub.
The funny thing? There are probabaly more people doing instanced raid in other mmorpg than people doing open world raid in GW2. So much about exclusion.
Me personally I dont’ think there is any problem with making content for 5% of the people. I just think it is funny everything you hate is want happening right now.
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I don’t mind hard core content. I don’t want to see it hidden away in instances, that’s all.
They are already hidden in instanced called “elite server only” and “TTS overflow”.
Please taxi me in there.
Not that I think there is any easy fix to the current problem.
Except anyone can join TTS and get taxied there. There’s no 40 player limit. Do you know how many times I was on the second overflow, and both beat Tequatl?
That is like saying anyone can join a guild to do instanced raid. Do you know there are times I can’t do Tequatl because the TTS instance is full? Oh wait, I need to join 1 hour prior to the instance start and maybe I’ll have a chance.
You said there are times the 2nd overflow works, that’s like saying there are times it fail too.
I’m not saying to Anet to make instanced raid. I’m saying those open world raid are already like instanced raid.
I’ve never had to join TTS to get there one hour before an event. Certainly not Teq anyway.
However, we have filled a server and started another one. We’ve had three.
Try that with a raid. 50 people in your guild, 30 raid, and 20 are like but what about us?
It doesn’t work. It’s a bad defense. At least with TTS you have far less of a chance of getting locked out.
And if you don’t think raids take a lot of time to set up, you haven’t done many.
I never defend instanced raid. I’m saying you are already doing instanced raid.
You join a guild called TTS. Everyone try to find an instance for yourself. So they can leave the unwanted people out.
Maybe Anet should stop making content for the 5-10% of the people who join TTS. Or maybe like 1% or less. Like you said.
ps. Maybe they should actually make Tequatl instanced for hardcore guild such as TTS. ANd make an easy version for the rest of people. Please stop making “casual people” do this coordinate hardcore open world boss which just doesn’t work.
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I don’t mind hard core content. I don’t want to see it hidden away in instances, that’s all.
They are already hidden in instanced called “elite server only” and “TTS overflow”.
Please taxi me in there.
Not that I think there is any easy fix to the current problem.
Except anyone can join TTS and get taxied there. There’s no 40 player limit. Do you know how many times I was on the second overflow, and both beat Tequatl?
That is like saying anyone can join a guild to do instanced raid. Do you know there are times I can’t do Tequatl because the TTS instance is full? Oh wait, I need to join 1 hour prior to the instance start and maybe I’ll have a chance.
You said there are times the 2nd overflow works, that’s like saying there are times it fail too.
I’m not saying to Anet to make instanced raid. I’m saying those open world raid are already like instanced raid.
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I don’t mind hard core content. I don’t want to see it hidden away in instances, that’s all.
They are already hidden in instanced called “elite server only” and “TTS overflow”.
Please taxi me in there.
Not that I think there is any easy fix to the current problem.
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^ I dont’ know I find it more elite for people to wait 2 hours to do wurm and keep trying just afking.
That is some hardcore people.
You said no to hardcore content. While the open world raid isn’t even design for casual.
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