You can do anything to earn ascended armor. Because to get ascended armor all you need is gold. And pretty much all the currency can be converted to gold.
But the difference is some activity earns you gold much faster.
The most likely answer is your mind is playing trick with yourself. You didn’t really have 19 gold before.
Other wise, you might be hacked, and strangely the person hacking only took 6 gold(very unlikely). And Anet will notefy you if anyone logged in your account with a different IP through mail. I dont’ think that’s likely.
I think the pro dungeon runners are mostly using scholar. The old time cof farmers mostly use ruby.
I would just wait for now. They said they going to rebalance the runes and sigil. I dont’ think the difference is big enough to invest for now unless you are certain scholar will be the bis.
For example if you have a molten alliance mining pick on your guardian and warrior. They can refund the one on your warrior. Just send a mail and follow the step.
I don’t think they give refund on duplicate that are already account bound though (watchwork pick or pass).
Iron ore farming. But price is dropping fast. Kind of like ori/wood farm in orr. But you look for rich iron node instead.
There’s also the SE champ box farming. Require a coordinate group though. Just run through the dungeon till you kill the 3 champ robot and skip the boss and reset the dungeon. It is kind of like cof path 1 farm. You get 5 champ box + a bunch of blue/green/yellow and high chance of core and lodestone. You really need a good group to do it though so you can do it in 4-5 minutes.
There is also the linen farming. Best to do with lvl appropriate characters so you can avoid getting silk instead. But there are rumors Anet ban players for farming in some locations since people’ll purposely don’t complete event to farm linen.
Or you can go back to the orr harvesting.
Alright, know any locations for rich iron? I found one in kessex so far. (I can guest anywhere)
The link vol showed pretty much give all the guaranteed locations. There are other areas which have “possible temporary location”. You can check the wiki for that too. One interesting thing about the iron at the gendarren field location(champ spider) is you might be able to guest a bunch of times into overflow (due to the event) and do it a bunch of times.
Do those nodes not have a timer like the ones for ori ore and ancient logs?
I think the guaranteed rich nodes just reset daily like ori ore and ancient logs during reset. But if you try to do it too close in proximity(1 hour before reset and 1 hour after reset again), you have to wait a few more hours.
I’m uncertain about the pattern and reset of the temporary rich ore. My guess is they change location during server reset or when no one is on the map. I usually don’t try to look for temporary rich node, since they dont’ give guaranteed reward. But there is also the plus that you can find it multiple times 0-3 times by guesting on the same location.
The iron node at the champ spider is the exception. It seemed to always give a rich iron node as long as you changed to a different instance.
Iron ore farming. But price is dropping fast. Kind of like ori/wood farm in orr. But you look for rich iron node instead.
There’s also the SE champ box farming. Require a coordinate group though. Just run through the dungeon till you kill the 3 champ robot and skip the boss and reset the dungeon. It is kind of like cof path 1 farm. You get 5 champ box + a bunch of blue/green/yellow and high chance of core and lodestone. You really need a good group to do it though so you can do it in 4-5 minutes.
There is also the linen farming. Best to do with lvl appropriate characters so you can avoid getting silk instead. But there are rumors Anet ban players for farming in some locations since people’ll purposely don’t complete event to farm linen.
Or you can go back to the orr harvesting.
Alright, know any locations for rich iron? I found one in kessex so far. (I can guest anywhere)
The link vol showed pretty much give all the guaranteed locations. There are other areas which have “possible temporary location”. You can check the wiki for that too. One interesting thing about the iron at the gendarren field location(champ spider) is you might be able to guest a bunch of times into overflow (due to the event) and do it a bunch of times. Also for some reason the one at spider you can do it at least 3 times(probably because it is have a champ there by guesting)
I think the point is some people actually bought multiple copies of account bound item.
So in the end, for Anet point of view is weather they’ll make more money from people buying multiple items for different character or more people willing to buy items once because they can use it on multiple character.
Iron ore farming. But price is dropping fast. Kind of like ori/wood farm in orr. But you look for rich iron node instead.
There’s also the SE champ box farming. Require a coordinate group though. Just run through the dungeon till you kill the 3 champ robot and skip the boss and reset the dungeon. It is kind of like cof path 1 farm. You get 5 champ box + a bunch of blue/green/yellow and high chance of core and lodestone. You really need a good group to do it though so you can do it in 4-5 minutes.
There is also the linen farming. Best to do with lvl appropriate characters so you can avoid getting silk instead. But there are rumors Anet ban players for farming in some locations since people’ll purposely don’t complete event to farm linen.
I’m on sea of sorrow, that’s a tier2-3 server. I don’t have a problem with population.
I think it’s more of a problem where everyone from low population transfer to high population server. Making the problem even worse.
If you dont’ like to play without people, no point staying on low population server. Obviously you’ll be charged to transfer. That is a problem for some people.
I actually hoard 400 stacks of another item. Let me just say it’s really painful selling it. Not to mention if you have to sell it on another account.
If only there’s a way to bypass the 8 stacks every few minutes restriction. I can only sell 8 stack and it start giving me “error attempting to sell” message.
to craft the gift of XXX, that is required to craft the ascended back piece.
if you have the airship pass, you can buy the gift of XXX for 5 gold. Not very sure where else where to get it. I think you can buy it with the loot from Lion’s Arch invasion else where, not very sure.
Stats matter when they give a clear advantage, Ascended armor by itself not including ascended trinkets do not give a clear advantage in this game. If you can prove that if 1 player with ascended armor and another with exotics that the player will 100% beat the other player in a 1v1 with exotics Ill hear you out. Or have any numerical real world advantage outside a calculator or spread sheet id eat my words.
Do you not understand how stats work or something? If someone has 50 power more than someone else, then they are 50 power stronger. It’s not hard math.
And without context, 50 power more is just 50 power more. A meaningless number.
Right. Say it takes and average of 10 hits to kill something. Ascended zerk armor have 14 more power, 11 more precision, and 1% more crit damage. From a pool of say 2000 power (if you spec for DPS), do you think that difference will bring the average down to 9 hits? I don’t think so. Maybe it will bring the average down to 99 from 100 hits.
as shown in the math literally right above you… it would take the hits down a lot more than that… ~14% damage increase for zerkers.
2000 health 10 hits to kill so an average of 200 dmg per hit is what you are saying. 200*1.14 = 228 dmg
That lowers it all the way down to 8.77 hits from 10.
I was just talking about the armor. I am for getting ascended weapons which is worth it imo. It’s the armor that requires so much to get so little. It’s crazy enough to get armor crafting to 500, let alone all the stuff needed to make the entire armor set just to get 14 more power. To add 14 power to 2000, that’s like less than 1% increase.
You also get increase defense. I think for my build that is 2.78% mitigation.
I don’t really care about mitigation myself. It’s probably more for the WvW player that might care.
But I still felt forced to get at least 1 piece of ascended armor because that’ll push my agony resistance to 55. Which is enough to reduce agony to 1% till I reach 49
The big picture is forcing PvPers in WvW to grind gold that does not require the act of PvPing.
So basically you go on and on about crafting which really takes 30 minutes.
And you talk about using laurel(which is gold), ectoplasm(which is gold), badges(which is gold) to acquire ascended gear?
Yes ascended gear require an absurd amount of gold. I get it. I felt the pain too. It takes a really long time to get it. You’ll need to spend a really long time to get it.
And if you read my suggestion, I already said to make the inscription, and the two parts sellable. “So people who hate crafting can stop complaining!”.
But you still need to grind the gold dragonite ore, empyreal crystal yourself. mystic forge those 4 parts and voila.
Well I assumed everyone possessed the mental capacity to understand that farming mats/gold was part of the reason people don’t like crafting. Guess I was wrong. Lesson learned, next time I’ll include a special explanation, in easy to understand words just for people like you, ok?
You were too lazy to read a small paragraph, yet you somehow had the motivation to write a paragraph yourself…
Do you know who write that sentence? You did. I assume you possessed the mental capacity to understand if you spend thousands of hours in wvw you have the mats/gold already.
Anyway, back to the matter at hand. I see no reason that ascended armor can not be bought from WvW vendors. It could cost a large number of laurels/ectos/badges etc. I don’t care, because I would still feel like I am being rewarded for my efforts in WvW, rather than exluded from the reward because I refuse to craft.
Other MMORPGs give PvPers best gear rewards for PvPing. It just makes sense for GW2 to have it too.
Until this is implemented I will be taking my business elsewhere, to a company that knows how to reward it’s PvPers.
If you’re trying to tell me that it takes 30 mins to level crafting to 500, from start to finish, including farming gold/materials. Then post a video or else it didn’t happen.
Did I ever say “including farming gold/material”? No you said it.
I said farming gold/material is the hard part. “Crafting isn’t”.
You’ll need to wvw for thousands of hours and do daily everyday to "cough cough afford " crafting.
1-400 you can do in 20 minutes. 400-500 you have to decide if you want to speed it up by spend more money. And since you have so much fun with wvw I’m sure you don’t have a problem with your stacks of dragonite ore.
Someone explain to me what is so heroic about crafting that it is arguably the only reasonable way to get the best items.
If you needed drops from the most challenging events maybe, but the way it is is just lame, grindy and uninspired. And not a task for a hero but a peon.
^This.
+1
I think basically they all feel as though just because they have endured through and earned it from repetitive, boring, menial tasks and that no one else can earn Ascended through tasks they enjoy.
Understandable, although GW2 was supposed to be about having fun.
Ya, I can’t believe I endured 30 minutes of clicking a few button to level crafting. Not to mention I have to click 5 more button after I reached 500 crafting.
This is sure boring repetitive work.
Troll is obvious. 0/10
How is that a troll. Crafting takes 30 minutes. You are just bsing because you haven’t wvw enough to get enough material. So you just want the easy way out.
Really how many people have ascended gear. Just because people craft don’t mean they can afford ascended gear.
The fastest guide I found on crafting 0-500 takes an hour assuming you have all the mats (or gold to purchase the mats)
Someone explain to me what is so heroic about crafting that it is arguably the only reasonable way to get the best items.
If you needed drops from the most challenging events maybe, but the way it is is just lame, grindy and uninspired. And not a task for a hero but a peon.
^This.
+1
I think basically they all feel as though just because they have endured through and earned it from repetitive, boring, menial tasks and that no one else can earn Ascended through tasks they enjoy.
Understandable, although GW2 was supposed to be about having fun.
Ya, I can’t believe I endured 30 minutes of clicking a few button to level crafting. Not to mention I have to click 5 more button after I reached 500 crafting.
This is sure boring repetitive work.
Troll is obvious. 0/10
How is that a troll. Crafting takes 30 minutes. You are just bsing because you haven’t wvw enough to get enough material. So you just want the easy way out.
Really how many people have ascended gear. Just because people craft don’t mean they can afford ascended gear.
Someone explain to me what is so heroic about crafting that it is arguably the only reasonable way to get the best items.
If you needed drops from the most challenging events maybe, but the way it is is just lame, grindy and uninspired. And not a task for a hero but a peon.
^This.
+1
I think basically they all feel as though just because they have endured through and earned it from repetitive, boring, menial tasks and that no one else can earn Ascended through tasks they enjoy.
Understandable, although GW2 was supposed to be about having fun.
Ya, I can’t believe I endured 30 minutes of clicking a few button to level crafting. Not to mention I have to click 5 more button after I reached 500 crafting.
No, you do not. Your capacity to work for it is as much as anyone else’s, that’s all anyone “deserves”.
Nothing is stopping you from simply farming gold and BUYING all of the materials, at which point you press “craft” for 6 forms of Vision Crystal, and 1 more time each for 6 pieces of armor.
You want to kill things? HAM out. You are too stubborn to craft 12 things? You really don’t deserve anything.
If you consider fighting in WvW and helping my server win, “work”. Then yes I am willing to “work” for it. I am not willing to hit a craft button, while I farm mats all day.
I think us WvWers deserve an option to obtaining Ascended apart from crafting for fighting the war, whilst you, PVErs can enjoy perks for our effort.
I just crafted an ascended staff today. Let me check how many button I pressed. I pressed 5 I think. So much work.
This is what I told people last year. Obviously Anet won’t release expansion before their China release. Best way to monetize is to wait after the release in China. Even a dummy like me know that. I’m sure their market department knows that.
Even if it’s not a paid expansion. It makes sense to wait a few month after their game is released in other places. For market strategy.
I dont’ know if they are going to release an expansion. But I doubt any time soon.
A player in full ascended equipment has 179 more stat points from equipment than a player in full exotic (assuming 2h weapon), as well as ~5% higher weapon attack (yes, this means 5% higher damage, unless you’re using bundles for main damage) and ~5% higher defense on armor. A player using the maximum number of +stat infusions would have 249 more stat points than the player in full exotic. I would hardly call a 10% increase in stats from equipment ‘insignificant’.
I’ve heard this a number of times, but would like clarification.
1. 10% stats is a lot. Can anyone link 2 builds that compares and shows this?
2. Even assuming it is a full 10%, what is the full percentage when you compare player A to player B when adding in stats from the toon before gear. What is the absolute stat difference?
I am very curious, thanks!
ps- My big reason for not going with CRAFTED ascended is that it locks me into one style of build. Berserker? Hope you never want to play Condi, Support, or any other hybrid or mix of gear build. That is not my style. I do however use the rings, amulet, trinkets. Working on a back piece slowly, and maybe a weapon (gasp) after that.
I’m not very certain if the calculation is right. (but my results seemed to be consistent with other people) Basically from what I’m told Damage = (Weapon Damage * Power * Skill Coefficient)/Armor.
Base on that, my guardian will do 5.45% more damage by just switching to ascended greatsword. (My guardian have berseker exotic armor with travel rune, ascended jewel, and defensive traits).
From what I’m told, ascended heavy armor have 60 more defense than exotic heavy armor. That is about 2.78% damage reduction for me.
I presume there’s also some difference in infusion slots that makes some difference.
Obviously going by the numbers, you should get ascended weapon first. Since ascended weapon itself gives more difference than 6 piece of ascended armor.
Easiest solution would be to have a little icon that always shows the persons AR level.
People will start saying “what if I’m really skilled but have 0 AR.” And people’ll start saying how they are the best player in the world, never dies regardless they have 0 AR. And how it is always “the other” people dieing first.
You only get 40 laurel a month right? If it is 200 laurels per peice, it’ll take 5 month for a single piece.
Do people even make “any” gold in WvW? at that rate, you might earn enough money.
It doesn’t have to be 200 laurels, it could be something along the lines of 40 laurels, 50 ectos, 250 badges. Kind of like trinkets.
So first you say, you are fine with 200 Laurels per piece and then you want them for 40 laurels?
I think basically he wants it easy, because he he already have a bunch of those saved up.
everyone just want a system that works for them.
laurel=gold, ecto=gold, badges = gold.
You already have everything set up to get your ascended gear. Now just take 30 minutes to level it up. Instead of spending 30 minutes complaining.
I honestly don’t mind more ways to get ascended gear. The only thing I concern I have is really “how much” is a fair price. For example is 200 laurel a fair price or is 40 laurel a fair price. Or how much dungeon token is required etc.
Honestly, I just see Anet use crafting because it’s a way to control the material price. Now for example I say 100 laurel(or some mix of laurel+other item) is a fair price for ascended armor. But that is only because of the current silk price. If silk price drop 100 laurel wont’ be a fair price.
I’m sorry but Crafting is just Dirt cheap in this game, and compared to other mmos its the most user friendly and casual experience ever with nothing ever going to waste. I’ve tried and hated crafting in any other game but GW2 actually makes it worth while to spend the 5 mins a day to look up discoveries to make something that was stored and organized for you.
You don’t Need the Asended gear it really makes no difference. 4.91% stats 5% if celestrial.
That’s irrelevant because I DON"T WANT TO CRAFT PERIOD!
I don’t want to spend my whole time clicking a “craft” button. I want to kill stuff!
While I don’t specifically also put myself in the “want to kill stuff” bracket, this is pretty much my thought as well. I don’t care how easy crafting is in GW2 or how little difference Ascended makes to your stats, I just want the option of being able to get it (if I choose to) without being forced into what I feel is the least enjoyable part of any MMO. There are so many paths through which you can play GW2, and so many currencies already in game (including some that are inherently just as time gated as the top tier crafting is), and yet you’re forced to craft if you want to get Ascended.
This is the thing. It’ll take me like 70 hours to get a full set of ascended armor. The crafting part take 30 minutes. Most of those time are farming money. I don’t know how many people enjoy farming money.
If I would to play “normally”, it’ll probably take me 200 hours. And I still have to spend some time doing things I don’t want to do called temple.
So really, instead of calling it “crafting is the only way to make ascended gear”, it really should be called “farming money is the only way to make ascended gear”. People can easily get enough ascended material from WvW right? Money is the only tough part.
If you can make money from WvW, you’ll be able to get ascended gear. I don’t WvW so I don’t know if people even make money in WvW.
It’s pretty easy to fix the “I dont’ like crafting”. Just make ascended material sellable. Every ascended material require 4 piece. 1 inscription 2 item part and vision crystal. Make the inscription and item part sellable, those are pretty much just money anyway. People would still need to farm their own vision crystal. But put 4 of those piece in mystic forge would give you an ascended gear.
I’m sorry but Crafting is just Dirt cheap in this game, and compared to other mmos its the most user friendly and casual experience ever with nothing ever going to waste. I’ve tried and hated crafting in any other game but GW2 actually makes it worth while to spend the 5 mins a day to look up discoveries to make something that was stored and organized for you.
You don’t Need the Asended gear it really makes no difference. 4.91% stats 5% if celestrial.
That’s irrelevant because I DON"T WANT TO CRAFT PERIOD!
I don’t want to spend my whole time clicking a “craft” button. I want to kill stuff!
eek. I can level a craft to 500 in 30 minutes. (and I actually timed it, 1-400 take me 20 minutes) I’m not sure what whole time mean.
A full set of ascended armor cost 189,000 karma, 500 gold, 120 skill point, 50 temple, 75 dungeon, and all you complain is the 30 minutes it take to craft it? You must really like killing things. Or you really hate crafting.
