^ they did. they make only cosmetic item grinding.
either way beside the small update every few weeks, you are still doing the same old dungeon, world boss, wvw, spvp, champ farming everyday, weather you do it or not.
^ I dont’ even understand what he is trying to say.
So I buy a sword for 100 gold. and If I resell it for 130 gold, I’ll end up only getting 30 gold?
I would like to see changes to the AI where mobs try and avoid being stacked together or remaining against a wall, giving more use to crowd control skills and making the control role more important than using a skill here and there.
You mean a melee mob will purposely not attack you if you stack on the wall? I’ll just take out a rifle and auto attack.
Make mob do more dmg. take away the aoe control and make the game like…. world of warcraft, and there the problem is fixed.
No, as in enemies will circle around their target to more open area in the same way a player would if they are pushed against a wall. I’m not a programmer so this could be a programming nightmare but it would add some depth into the tactic instead of the joke it can turn most encounters into.
They are still in melee range, people still going to stack, maybe people cleave 4 target instead of 5 with your suggestiong. Maybe give every mob more variety of ability, and maybe range mob will purposely move away etc etc.
Ya I mean Anet max condition stack to 25 because they care so much about their bandwith. I’m not sure your suggestion is very economic.
Either way, they are just trash mob. I rather Anet focus more on boss fight. The new TA sounds fun. Too bad people wont’ do it more than a few times because reward isn’t worth the time.
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So the great game guild wars 2 gets kittenized so support other NCsoft (fail) games
You mean just like said “fail” games have supported the development of GW2 for about 5 years?
Anet isn’t getting NCSofts money now an what I mean by that is a great game is getting butcherd to support older less popular games sure Anet got help by NCsoft to get started but at what point can it stop paying back an start getting the money it needs to be great ? after people have gotten tired of the living story or lack of impacting content ?
I don’t think you ever read NCsoft’s financial report. lineage is the 2nd most profitable subscription franchise ever behind world of warcraft. They are making far more money than GW2 even today.
I dont’ think Aion have a net loss also, so they dont’ need finance from GW2. Aion is only a tiny bit behind GW2 on net sales for Q2, I’m not sure if Q3 report is out yet. I’m not sure about their baseball team or mobile game.
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Lineage community says the same thing about GW2. And consider lineage makes far more money with lesser staff, I have to agree with them. Not to mention GW2 is probably developed from funding on NCsoft’s other game.
All jokes aside, I dont’ think those games have a net loss, so I dont’ know what you are talking about. Many of the funding is probably used for development on newer game though.
You have to read through NCsoft’s financial report, I’m not sure what’s going on there.
The problem is there are other people that would pay more. If you read through another post there are people who payed hundred of dollars in this game. So even if you won’t pay 10$ Anet isn’t worry, because other people will.
Not to mention there is a gem exchange system. I’m not sure how many people will want to pay 1$ if they can just do a single dungeon and buy the skin with in game gold.
I would like to see changes to the AI where mobs try and avoid being stacked together or remaining against a wall, giving more use to crowd control skills and making the control role more important than using a skill here and there.
You mean a melee mob will purposely not attack you if you stack on the wall? I’ll just take out a rifle and auto attack.
Make mob do more dmg. take away the aoe control and make the game like…. world of warcraft, and there the problem is fixed.
make sure you are the party leader. And you can just refill the party in seconds if someone leave. (if you meantion it is the last or 2nd to last fractal, it is usually filled really fast).
If you still fail fractal, the problem is you not the community.
I spend 10$. But I spent another 50$ for a second account. So if I ran out of things to do I play my 2nd account.
It’s not the players fault. It’s Anet’s fault.
Why would you not stack if it is better to stack?
You don’t see that much stacking on some of the new boss on the new TA right?
Oh and why are you using high toughness celestial build… That’s like complaining the content is so easy yet I’m a bad player that can’t dodge.
Here’s one of the recent post complaining about stacking. You get one of it every few days.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/dungeons-skipping-strategy-etc/first#post3135772
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^ Every mmorpg pretty much is about farming in the end. It is impossible for Anet to make that much content.
That’s why GW2 have grinding. They want to keep you playing from doing those repeatable content. Because they really dont’ have that much content.
How do you think they make a personal quest for legendary that take a year to do. It’s called farming.
You can call it farming. But champ farm, dungeon, spvp, wvw, world event is all the content anet have.
There isn’t even any skillful content which can’t be finished in 1 day on a weekend in the game. I’m not sure what skill based rewards people are expecting. Farming high level fractal over and over again? (which is pointless anyway, because eventhough it is a bit more skill based you still have to farm).
The problem Anet need to keep people playing. And some people play way too much. Not to mention the Gemshop make money by having those skippable farm content people dont’ want to do.
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^ the person probably means ncsoft stock and he can use his 0.00000001 influence on the voting to decide on Anet’s future.
Personally I would spend much more with reasonable prices. So naturally it would make sense for me that they lowered their prices. Only way to change my mind is to show some hard evidence that their model actually gives the most profit.
But there is no hard evidence your right too. You should google “supply and demand equilibrium”.
I’m not sure why you naturaly think your price is the perfect price just because that’s the price you’ll pay.
We need another 400 page of complaint about Anet hate small guild and people threaten to quit the game because their 5 man guild can’t raid.
Why do everyone think they are important because they compose of 0.00000000001% of Anet sales or owns 0.00000000001% of Anet stock.
If you are too cheap to pay more than 1$. Maybe Anet give up on you.
How do you know that no one will pay 10$, just because you wont’ pay more than 1$.
And if you are a stock holder, fill free to go to the next voting and use your 0.00000000001% influence to decide on Anet’s future.
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^ He said non speed run. He didn’t say being purposely inefficient for no reason.
“Oh, I’ll purposely not stacking just to make the run less efficient”. “Oh I can just run pass this mobs, but I won’t do it”. He should put no stacking and no skipping in the comment.
non speed run usually mean casual runs mostly for inexperienced player.
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People will play content they dont’ enjoy so they can do content they enjoy.
That’s the philosophy of modern mmorpg grinding.
I think the developer explained, it take really long for them to design armor set. Much longer compare to say…. weapons.
So the end result is there are far less armor set. And they keep adding new weapon.
Because we need to kill 1000 rat to kill a dragon.
Because we need to kill 1000 rat to wear an excalibur.
And people just like to look nice for whatever reason. I dont’ know why people would wear prada when they can use a regular bag function just as well.
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^ ya I felt the same way about dye pack. I was foolish enough to spend 500+ gold to buy a bunch of flame and frost dye pack, when I can buy it for a fraction of the price directly from the TP.
I think the known record is 22 minute, probably even closer to 23.
So it probably take a bit longer than 20.
Why are keys so expensive? Because not everyone want to do boring key farms for hours and hours for a single black lion weapon. If they can use real cash, they would.
The real question is why are black lion weapon so cheap. Why would anyone spend 16 hours farming for a single weapon when they can get it for 50-60 gold on the trading post. My guess is some people just play regularly and saved a bunch of keys, or gold sellers which dont’ have lvl80 account just keep farming keys for money.
I’m supposed to buff my party. Healing is your own concern. If regular blocks/blind enemies/protection/stability isn’t enough for you… well, learn to dodge, I suppose. There’s a difference between not being insane about the speedclear, and not knowing how to play at all.
Why would I want to hit 1 target when I can hit 5 at a time?
Why would I want to get hit by ranged attack, when I can stack and be protected inside a guardian’s spirit shield?
Why would a thief want to blind only 1 target when he can blind every enemy?
Why would I purposely want to do less dmg because I’m too far away to get dmg buff.
Why would I purposely want to hit 1 target when I can aoe and hit everything.
Why would I not want to get close to my partymate so I can aoe heal them.
The problem isn’t people are stacking. The problem is game design.
Do you see healer stacking in other mmorpg? No because the heal range is far enough. And single target heal heal for more.
Do you see everyone stacking that much in other game? No because by design it isn’t better to stack that much.
You see what Anet did with the new TA path right? you can’t skip it. The problem isn’t about people are skipping. The problem is the older dungeon are designed which can be skipped.
Blame Anet, not the player.
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1 euro is too much. They should sell it for 10 cent.
I’m sure I’m right, since I say so.
Prove that morrolan. How is ANet manipulating the TP?
Manipulation might not be the most appropriate word to use, but Anet controls all prices in the game…I say again…all prices in the game.
I would hope you don’t need a detailed explanation on how.
We as players are just left with the scaps to play with and set the prices. Again…we are only setting prices based on the scaps Anet gives us…should Anet not like the price we set they give or take away scaps and thus “Manipulate” the prices we see in game…Anet has done so many times…
When a developer has nothing better to do (no ideas) then simulate the real world economy…they HAVE to intervene and change prices as they see fit (“whats best for the economy”)…haven’t heard that before…lol…
Actually, Anet can control the “availability” of items. We players control the prices. If I want to sell a Dusk for 100 Gold, Anet’s not stopping me from doing so. On a related note, it wouldn’t be Anet’s fault if another player put in a Dusk Buy Order for 600 Gold. That’s one player’s own personal choice. So then I’ve just made six times as much money as I initially wanted.
Yes…but what if Anet does not like the prices being set…what happens then? Not like they haven’t messed with prices before…
And to the bold part of your response…Yeah, like that happens…ever. Unless you are talking about the insider trading going on, ala “The Crossing”…Anet really needs to get their kitten together on that kitten.
well, he’ll probably spend a very long time explaining players are the one setting the price. And talk about economy 101. Like he did to me before.
In which, I think he’s missing the point. People are complaining because items are too hard to acquire. In which is what people are discussing. The availability of item.
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Actually, Anet can control the “availability” of items. We players control the prices.
I think there’s too much philosophy going on.
The button line is if items are more available or easier to acquire, players don’t need to grind or farm that long to acquire the things they want.
I don’t necessary agree or disagree with making items more available or easier to acquire, because relatively GW2 is much more casual than most other mmorpg already.
the problem is simply how the exchange is done, rich ppl can manipulate the market like mad while casuals and less fortunate can only afford the cheap junk.
Anet should’ve kept a lid on the exchange system, now it’s gone to hell.Anet actually keep a lid on the black lion weapon.
The problem is many items are “event” only, which can eventually run out of supply.
Another problem is items are “too hard to get”. For example legendary gear or a fused gear which cause 7 keys is too hard to get.
Even if hallowean shield or fused weapon is caped at a price. It just mean supply will run out and there will be none in the trading post.
where did i say weapons?
where did i say i’m talking about weapon. I talked about everything. weapon is just one of the everything.
80% of the post talk about how capping price is ….. Since there wont’ even be any supply on the trading post if you capped the price.
First you talk about weapons and gear and now you deny it while it’s right there in the quote, i just lost you…..
i was talking about the exchange gold-gem-gold, no gear here.
I don’t know you are talking about gold-gem exchange. I’m not sure how I’m suppose to know that.
I think I’m mislead since you said exchange, I thought you mean the trading post.
I don’t think that many people buy gem to resell since the buy and sell price have a large margin. At least I think there are much better item to invest/flip.
The rich people probably bought too many gems, It’s hard for casual player to buy gem at cheaper price. At the same time, players might spend less real cash compare to the demand of gem. So that drive the price up.
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Ya sure, oil price went up by a multiple of 5 in the last 12 years. Must be market manipulation.
It is tho. Search up which governments made the money and built up giant military force, and why-how wars made…
if you mean the americans, yes, they are manipulating the market by making it cheaper. else it’ll go up more.
better send those armies to the conflict area, else there wont’ be oil supply.
I understand what you are trying to say. People invest(or you call it manipulation) on items. But even if fused weapon is capped at 50 gold. You still won’t be able to buy it anyway because there won’t be any supply.
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the problem is simply how the exchange is done, rich ppl can manipulate the market like mad while casuals and less fortunate can only afford the cheap junk.
Anet should’ve kept a lid on the exchange system, now it’s gone to hell.Anet actually keep a lid on the black lion weapon.
The problem is many items are “event” only, which can eventually run out of supply.
Another problem is items are “too hard to get”. For example legendary gear or a fused gear which cause 7 keys is too hard to get.
Even if hallowean shield or fused weapon is caped at a price. It just mean supply will run out and there will be none in the trading post.
where did i say weapons?
where did i say i’m talking about weapon. I talked about everything. weapon is just one of the everything.
80% of the post talk about how capping price is ….. Since there wont’ even be any supply on the trading post if you capped the price.
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The problem is many people play GW2 because it is different(don’t have instanced raid).
Now if you make GW2 into an “instanced raiding” game some people won’t be happy.
But Anet want to keep the people who like raiding. So they make this BS open world raid which the only way to do it is having an organized group of people who struggle to fit their group in the same instance.
Unfortunately Anet won’t do a thing for PR reason. Anet dont’ want someone posting screen shot of lion arch with no people on gaming site.
Just like Anet will never make better guild UI to record when people’s last logon is.
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You must not have played World of Warcraft
At least I can see what the boss look like in wow.
I simply can’t see the boss with all the particle effect.
GW2 UI is fine. But I loathe the particle effect.
But unfortunately, Anet probably wont’ do a thing. Since legendary gear is such a big deal in this game. And legendary gear with no particle effect = another plan weapon.
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the problem is simply how the exchange is done, rich ppl can manipulate the market like mad while casuals and less fortunate can only afford the cheap junk.
Anet should’ve kept a lid on the exchange system, now it’s gone to hell.
Anet actually keep a lid on the black lion weapon.
The problem is many items are “event” only, which can eventually run out of supply.
Another problem is items are “too hard to get”. For example legendary gear or a fused gear which cause 7 keys is too hard to get.
Even if hallowean shield or fused weapon is caped at a price. It just mean supply will run out and there will be none in the trading post.
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Ya sure, oil price went up by a multiple of 5 in the last 12 years. Must be market manipulation.
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^ you should be thankful. At least it won’t go up much more.
At least Anet gives you an option to buy it with 7 keys(in which you can’t do it before).
Take a look at ghastly grinning shield
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I’m not even defending GW2. The thing is you says GW2 is bad. But what is good.
If there is a good mmorpg, you’ll be playing that instead of going to forum of another game and complaining about how bad the game is.
The thing with FF14 is it “was” terrible. I have never seen any AAA mmorpg with such a terrible review before. It is so terrible, the game company even admit it is terrible. So they actually shut it down to redo it. I dont’ know how it is now, hope they fixed a bunch of things.
gw2 is just another themepark mmorpg. I’m not sure what you are expecting.
and it is funny talking about wow, which is the market leader.
I dont’ understand why making a game like wow (without needing to pay subscription is bad).
fill free to go to mmorpg forum and complain like how every mmorpg is bad, which is what those forum have become.
It is really really easy to make a group of non lvl80 ac run.
If you can still carry the group of non80 pug, good for you. And consider elementist could probably solo the whole dungeon, it shouldn’t be a problem.
and what’s so skillful about beating a dungeon you already beaten 100 times.
This game have been out for over a year.
Some people me included have done the same dungeon hundred of times if not thousnad of times(yes I actually did cof path 1 thousands of times).
If after you run the same dungeon 1 thousand times, you still want to spend more time to kill the trash let me know.
You mean pve players need to grind and do …
1) farm champ
2) do dungeon
3) world event
4) TP flipping
5) mining
You can call those grinding, but that’s pretty much the whole game for a pve player.
Oh ya, and other mmorpg is much worse in terms of grind and legendary gear actually have unfair and better stats.
I just read the wiki page for the crafting and it said that if I chose to craft items, they would be useful and wouldn’t require me to make many useless items.
I was doing dungeon with my friend, and when he dies I run over and rez him for 1 second and run away eventhough I dont’ really want to rez him since it is better if I focus on fighting instead of rezing.
But I still do it anyway. It’s called being “politically polite”.
What the wiki really want to say is you’ll craft a bunch of useless item that you won’t use but for political reason they have to reword it.
ya but do the exotic mini have to be that expensive? Most of it just get bought out by investor anyway.
What’s the big deal on using common skin and dungeon skin?
You are the one that want to use some rare expensive skin and complain about you can’t afford it.
At least having a cap of 7 keys will keep the price below 350 gold. You see what happened to the hallowean skins before.
It’s Anet design to keep item exclusive so you want to log in or spend cash “now”. I don’t agree it myself. You can keep complaining, and most likely Anet will just ignore it.
I’m not really a mini collector myself. But the last crash I bought my set(up to rare).
The crash probably help some new people getting in the collection.
The molten facility should come back at the end of year. But no guarantee the azurite orb will come back.
The whole point is “you wont’ do it”, don’t mean other people wont’ do it. If no one is buying the skin, it won’t be listed for 200 gold.
I sold legendary item before. I sold some other skins that is ove 100 too.
You may think you are the center of the universe so if you won’t buy skins for 200 gold no one will. But unfortunately everyone think differently. So just because you wont’ do it dont’ mean other people won’t.
Me personally, I don’t care that much about skins. So I dont’ even understand why anyone would QQing on the forum that they can’t afford a 200 gold skin.
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I’m not sure if the exotic mini actually boost mini pack sells that much. That is undisclosed information. Anet probably intended to do it to sell black lion keys.
And if you really are a collector rather than investor you just collect and dont’ care about the price(like someone said alreadY).
Name of my ranger is “bow bear newbie”.
And actually most pug ranger use bow and bear so that’s why people hate ranger in dungeon.
It really is a black box operation.
but I dont’ see what’s wrong with gem price droping 13 silver in a few minutes.
Real life stock or exchange rate, change by the minutes.
Your not buying a cargo of wheat, in which you contact the seller directly. You go through dealers or banks for stock or foreign currency exchange. And in GW2 you go through Anet black box.
And BTW I don’t think the exchange rate data is current. You have to actually input money or gem to find the current exchange.
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You will keep qqing when Anet sell skins for 50$ or 500$ for a legendary.
The urgency is what push people to buy things. Hey buy this item now, it going to rise in price in a few days. anet is not worrying about the old items, they’ll just keep pushing out new items anyway.
And RMT happened in every mmorpg out there.