If people dont’ link their gear, there probalby isn’t any easy way to find out what people is wearing.
How am I suppose to kick you if I dont’ know what you are wearing? The only thing people notice is it take longer to kill boss. But it is hard to tell who is the slacker.
But you wont know PVT is obviously better DPS…
There is 5 people in a group. How am I suppose to know who the slacker is without gear linking.
If people dont’ link their gear, there probalby isn’t any easy way to find out what people is wearing.
How am I suppose to kick you if I dont’ know what you are wearing? The only thing people notice is it take longer to kill boss. But it is hard to tell who is the slacker.
I for one don’t think those “other” build is bad at all.
For bad player or inexperienced player those defensive gear is pretty good.
I proably wouldn’t complete aetherblade retreat, or the new TA if I didn’t have a seperate soldier gear. Most of my teamate is on the ground most of the time. I’m probalby on the ground too if I’m wearing berserker. So in the end, I just put on my soldier gear and cheese my way through slowly.
I actually really like AC and stacking. At least people can’t complain support(healing) is useless now.
Most of the people complaining about cheap mechanic is people who hardly do dungeon. And it is not fun for farmers who do dungeon everyday to play with them. Without finding some cheap way to make the dungeon easier.
Just do whatever you want to solo or duoing the champ and ignore the farming people.
Unless you are bored enough to purposely solo or duoing this champ all day.(mind you there are 20+ other zones full of champ too). I doubt people even care. Most of them probably thank you for taking some health of the champ. And the few of them complaining have slow computer so they can’t waypoint fast enough.
People are just too scensitive and whine too much.
“Oh QQ I’m goign to get maybe 43 box instead of 44 in an hour now…”
“Oh I got to QQ on the forum because some player is QQing on map chat”
“Oh QQ, I can’t get in to jormag because I’m always late to the map anyway so I need to blame the farmers. And mind you I can guest but I just like to blame farmers anyway”.
“Oh QQ, no one ever bother with event in everyzone. But I got to blame those farmers for not doing event that no one do anyway.”
^ If the boss never cast her red circle. No one mess up. You just lack the healing/defense or dps to kill fast enough.
You can try dodge into the wall condition removal for her big melee range attack. That’s what killing most pug. But that dont’ stop your teamate from dieing.
Having guardian, elementist, engineer who heal helps a bunch.
You skip the trash the same way you do it while doing group arah run.
Stablity. Mobility skill. Condition removal, sigil of energy etc etc.
There are 2 boss you have to fight before. Just take the time to try yourself. For the 2nd boss, I think having stability helps so when he head bunt you, you can pick up the needle fast and neutralize him.
^ Yes I do AC run. All I put is “35+ exp”. It is usually filled in 5 minutes.
And only reason it take 5 minutes is because low level avoid low level group. And many of them just join and left imediately when they see everyone is low level.
Not only that. Many of them rage quit when the group wipe a few times.
I have only failed 1 AC low level group, and that is only because I’m new to the LFG tool and is confused on how to refill the group when people rage quit.
^ why do you think everyone is carried. If I’m low level I just run with low level. If I’m new to the dungeon I dont’ look for group which says veteran.
I just accept the dungeon is going to take longer.
I’m doing 40min – 1 hour AC run myself on my low level. And when I started arah a few month ago a usual run take 2-3 hours in non veteran group.
Maybe people need to stop thinking they should get carried when they can run the dungeon perfectly fine. It just take longer.
How am I suppose to care when I creat low level group and many low level try to avoid me. And they rage quit after a few wipe.
Started an AC group with the title “35+ exp”. And people keep joining and leaving apparently to other group called “LFM PATH1/3”. Apparently they dont’ like to join me and my group because I’m low level and other group have high level people. (and mind you they are low level themself)
After 5+ minutes of waiting the group is finally finished. And we crawl our way through the dungeon. We wipe maybe 4 times and during that time 3 people left so we have to recruit more people.
After maybe 50 minutes, the dungeon is finished.
I’m sorry I don’t pitty new people. Apparently they(or many of them) just want to speedrun with veteran player or get carried when they could do the dungeon themself. They just don’t want to spend 1 hour in AC or 3 hour in Arah when they can get carried much faster.
People have to accept that its a Game and that profit is not the most important thing.. It should be fun which is bigger if you share it with others….
lvl35 in AC is… not “Fun”. Not for you , not for a group. Just how it is. Spend a few hours and get to 40 at least, load up on rare/yellow gear. Don’t expect others to change their minds or play-style for you, or you will never have fun in this game. If you must insist, find a guild to carry you through, since they play together and can probably do it with less than 5 in the group. If this game had drag corpse, I could quite literally say carry you at lvl35.
And if you really want to have fun. Why do you need some veterans to carry you through dungeon. Just go do dungeon for fun. If you can’t complete the dungeon, what’s the big deal?
Because being stuck in a dungeon for two hours when it should have taken 20 minutes is not fun, not for vets (I know you were in agreement). I sometimes accept lvl40+ into my AC groups, but that’s completely beside the point. Yet, not everyone has two hours to run one path (even me sometimes), so if anyone in the group protests, then the lower level player can just find another group if they cant run 98% of the way with a higher level alt to swap out at the end for the lower level one. Most players can understand that, have had no problems explaining it outside of the dungeon.
Ya I’m not really replying to you. That’s why I say if “noob” just want to have fun. Why do they need veterans to carry them through.
Which get to the exact idea. Noob dont’ want to do a 2 hour dungeon when they can get carried in 20 minutes. And veteran dont’ want to do 2 hour dungeon to carry noob when they can do it in 20 minutes.
There never is a problem for low level to do AC. It just take much longer compare to getting carried by a group of veteran lvl80.
People have to accept that its a Game and that profit is not the most important thing.. It should be fun which is bigger if you share it with others….
lvl35 in AC is… not “Fun”. Not for you , not for a group. Just how it is. Spend a few hours and get to 40 at least, load up on rare/yellow gear. Don’t expect others to change their minds or play-style for you, or you will never have fun in this game. If you must insist, find a guild to carry you through, since they play together and can probably do it with less than 5 in the group. If this game had drag corpse, I could quite literally say carry you at lvl35.
Yah I mean there are different type of players. People just play for different reason. Some farm because they want cool skins to look good which is fun for them.
And if you really want to have fun. Why do you need some veterans to carry you through dungeon. Just go do dungeon for fun. If you can’t complete the dungeon, what’s the big deal?
Beside I think the OP should learn to use the LFG tool. Because I can form an AC group at anytime. All I need is to type “35+ exp”. And it is filled in 5 minutes. (That is for NA server, I dont’ play on EU so I can’t comment on that).
^ Because there are many different type of players. Most of the people complain about skipping are new players that felt left down when everyone just run ahead while left them behind dieing.
Most of the people complain about stacking and cheesy mechanic are non farmers. Who hardly even do dungeon(or casual enough they rarely logon). They just want to max out their fun to play for the game mechanic because they dont’ farm.
I saw someone complain about people cheesing through dungeon. So I try to add him to friend to do some non cheesing dungeon runs. It turns out he hardly even logon. If his a farmer he wont’ be complaining about cheesy technique to maxmize their profit. Or if he is a pro player, he’ll know most of the dungeon is soloable. So he won’t complain about he can’t enjoy the mechanic of the fight in the first place. And more often than not, he hardly even do dungeon, because if he do, he’ll spend more time complaining why newbie join his speed run group.
^ ya I think people more or less get the attitude they need to have veterans to carry them through, or every dungeon must have 100% success rate.
There is another post on a person thinking veterans should help new people because they give up on a 90 minute arah run. If you give up arah after 90 minutes, the problem is not because no one is helping you. The problem is you just give up. Or maybe the dungeon is too long for his taste. It is not because no one is helping.
Like I said before, if speedrun or veteran group don’t want to carry me through AC, I just make my own lvl35+ group. You usually have 1 or 2 lvl80 who join anyway.
I think “skipping” is extremely frustrating for new player. That’s the main problem.
People just think people are avoiding to play the game. But in all skipping is the game. You try to not die when running from one place to another which is full of monster(think guild rush).
And if you read the OP’s post “I lack ability to dodge and weave through several rooms full of enemies without dying.”… You should be able to understand it.
I have to actaully practice skipping. And find strategy to skip. For example use the right skill and sigil of energy.
It is really like the cliff side fractal. It is very frustrating as a new player to run throug all the trap while everyone in your group runs ahead. They just don’t have an excuse there because trap is not killable.
^ that is actually not a bad idea. Because you want to kite the scavenger into the flame. So range isn’t bad.
And not every pug can kill fast enough. Unless you think you are good enough and have enough staility to melee it while 30 scavenger is knocking you down fill free.
I do melee but when I see too many scavenger around me, I definately range and go to the flame.
From what I noticed, it’s best to pull him in the back corner, giving the scavengers more time to kill themselves. Party goes full melee and burst as much as possible (avoiding confusion cone spray). Once the scavengers start to overwhelm you, pop stability and kite/range.
Similar to ascalonian boss in fotm.
Exactly best way how to kill him. Why should i fight that boss 2+ minutes with non zerk range group if i can kill him in less then minute (even seconds with full zerk) this way?
I dont want to sound like ,,elitist" or something but really i am asking why?
This may sound like OT, but isnt becouse it is still about stackin in one place :-D
Because I’m not lvl80 and you’ll kick me if I join your group.
Sory but of cource. As low lvl you can create your own levling group with other low lvls. It can really makes difference if low lvl is in party. Low lvl can be usefull with proper gear and traits, but they usualy they aren’t. and even with that they far from 80lvl.
You should undestand that as low lvl you are making dungeon longer and harder for rest of group. Do you really want to be weakness of group?
Form levling runs. It will be probably hard and long but if you play well you will make it dont worry.
That’s fine. I’m just explaining not every group is optimized with full dps and skilled player, that’s why they have different strategy on how to fight boss.
^ that is actually not a bad idea. Because you want to kite the scavenger into the flame. So range isn’t bad.
And not every pug can kill fast enough. Unless you think you are good enough and have enough staility to melee it while 30 scavenger is knocking you down fill free.
I do melee but when I see too many scavenger around me, I definately range and go to the flame.
From what I noticed, it’s best to pull him in the back corner, giving the scavengers more time to kill themselves. Party goes full melee and burst as much as possible (avoiding confusion cone spray). Once the scavengers start to overwhelm you, pop stability and kite/range.
Similar to ascalonian boss in fotm.
Exactly best way how to kill him. Why should i fight that boss 2+ minutes with non zerk range group if i can kill him in less then minute (even seconds with full zerk) this way?
I dont want to sound like ,,elitist" or something but really i am asking why?
This may sound like OT, but isnt becouse it is still about stackin in one place :-D
Because I’m not lvl80 and you’ll kick me if I join your group.
^ that is actually not a bad idea. Because you want to kite the scavenger into the flame. So range isn’t bad.
And not every pug can kill fast enough. Unless you think you are good enough and have enough staility to melee it while 30 scavenger is knocking you down fill free.
I do melee but when I see too many scavenger around me, I definately range and go to the flame.
From what I noticed, it’s best to pull him in the back corner, giving the scavengers more time to kill themselves. Party goes full melee and burst as much as possible (avoiding confusion cone spray). Once the scavengers start to overwhelm you, pop stability and kite/range.
Similar to ascalonian boss in fotm.
I dont’ know i’m lvl 48 atm. my group of 35+ surely can’t burst him down. It depend on the group really.
But that is exaclty what I’m doing. I melee first. but usually don’t have enough dps, so start range when scavenger start become overwhelming.
I usually do pug. and it’s not always like those pro group you guys are doing.
^ that is actually not a bad idea. Because you want to kite the scavenger into the flame. So range isn’t bad.
And not every pug can kill fast enough. Unless you think you are good enough and have enough staility to melee it while 30 scavenger is knocking you down fill free.
I do melee but when I see too many scavenger around me, I definately range and go to the flame.
^ people just buy low sell high. I’m not much in to those as I don’t want to spend too much time in the TP.
He posted what he did already, fliping and crafting.
And when you have too much money, it is hard to find enough item to flip.
I think just pay attention for announcement and try to find opportunety is the best way to go. If I wasn’t being stupid, I should have bought many minis a few weeks ago.
I’m not sure to call it exploiting, consider doing those AC35+ run I have problem surviving even with stacking.
And I actually play a guardian stacking all healing ability. selfness daring, writ of merciful, healing breeze, hold the line, wall of reflection, shield of avenger, staff secondary.
ya I’m not so sure about the mini market. it is good if you buy it for cheap a few weeks ago. not so sure now. I’m not sure there are still many collectors that still need it.
I honestly think crafting is the way to go now. You should anticipate the future update early. Not do it late when the price is alredy bumped.
But if you only have 200 gold. You shouldn’ diversitify too much.
^ i bought some blue and green. I dont’ know if it’ll go up. But if people arn’t buying those miniature at 1-2 gold each. Im’ not sure if anyone will pay 300 gem for 3 of it. So regardless if it is being discontinued. I’m not sure if it’ll change that much.
But I think it is a good investment. Because at least you know it won’t go down.
didn’t do much for rare and exotic since it is already at 20g. And I guess there is a huge amount of holographic risen night and dragon coffer on the market so hard for those to get up in price.
crystal is just an alternative of orb and you should buy and make immedietly.
otherwise, when the price raise hit, dust will go up which make crystal=> higher price also
is it even worth promoting orb? dont’ look like it, unless you mean ruby.
well, thank to Vol topic on opal last time. i was able to unleash it at x2 price. stock at merchant price of around 2s and sold at 4s> ^__^.
so i’ll support u on this….Emerald thing, yep it will raise. buy now …plz
Well to be fair the Opal rise in price wasn’t due to speculation, but due to the mislabeled tooltip
But you are infact trying to bump up item price by saying things in the forum arn’t you?
Because you only start talking about it after you stock up enough. And I doubt you’ll say anything if you are trying to buy more.
Because I sure wont’ say anything when I try to stock up items before people realize.
And just curious, what kind of gold does a big time trader like you have?
You can keep thinking that I’m trying to pump and dump – I have enough credibility on these forums.
I have 60g + +500g in assets in the bank. All my gold went to all my legendaries ever since the start of the game.
I’m playing less so I’m not farming anymore. All my gold comes from my investments now.
ya I just give up on legendary. Have more money than I need.
I some how get the idea you probalby have like 10k+ gold or something. But I suppose legendary is where your money went.
I actually always thought of spreading rumors to bump up my investment myself. But the little amount of my moral hold me back.
well, thank to Vol topic on opal last time. i was able to unleash it at x2 price. stock at merchant price of around 2s and sold at 4s> ^__^.
so i’ll support u on this….Emerald thing, yep it will raise. buy now …plz
Well to be fair the Opal rise in price wasn’t due to speculation, but due to the mislabeled tooltip
But you are infact trying to bump up item price by saying things in the forum arn’t you?
Because you only start talking about it after you stock up enough. And I doubt you’ll say anything if you are trying to buy more.
Because I sure wont’ say anything when I try to stock up items before people realize.
And just curious, what kind of gold does a big time trader like you have?
I think crystal is an obvious investment, if you can buy it cheaply. cheaply as in almost at vendor price. Some of the crystal which go up to 2.70 or 2.80 I just give up. The one that stay 2.30 or lower I still buy a few.
Not that it’ll go up, because people like to spread rumor it’ll go up. But if it don’t go up, just vendor them or resell and you won’t loss so much.
Besides if you use buy order and sell it using the normal way, it’ll recover the TP fee.
And you know they will introduce jewelcrafting to 500. And people like to spread rumor and bump the price up. So you can just wait and sell at that time.
The only uncertainty is to sell right away when any kind of market speculation happened or to wait longer.
That’s understandable and completely fine. But back to my initial point, based on LFG, many groups shutdown noobs before they even can join a group.
Ya they do. But there are groups which don’t shutdown noob too.
If you want to know. When I join those arah group with no requirement it is usually successful. So you shouldn’t have to join “veteran group” to do it. Usually there’s 1 or 2 expereinced player anyway who just tag along.
Even with complete noob group. You should be able to do it. It just take very long. Long enough that many people arn’t able to tolerabe it.
good lord. use a skill point. Get gossamer scrap for less than 5 silver.
Even if silk scrap price raise to 25 copper, you can still get gossamer for 5 silver. Do people not know what promotion is? And use promotion on bolt of silk. I’m quite speechless.
It is still a gamble to promote silk to gossamer. I wrote a little script to check for item promotion and this is the output for silk to gossamer promotion right now:
Promoting 250 Silk Scrap into some Gossamer Scrap
Cost of promotion: 9770 Number of promoted items to be generated for promotion t
o be worth it: 17.140350877192983
You need to get at least 18 gossamer scrap for it to be worth it and that is not counting the worth of any skill points used in the process. Meaning it is possibly profitable but still a gamble.
I probably said a million times. You don’t promote silk scrap. You promote bolt of silk.
That being said. It doesn’t matter. People don’t think anyway.
Running the same calculations for promoting bolts of silk into bolts of gossamer shows you need to generate at least 15 bolts of gossamer to be profitable (again not including the worth of any skill points used in the process).
If the information on the wiki is right, it is still a gamble even though you stand a better chance of being profitable.
ya and you are using the current market price right? Gossamer price have droped. Which is exactly what I’m trying to say. Gossamer isn’t worth that much. And it surely won’t go up.
It might go up during the patch day. But you need to sell it fast enough at patch day. Eventhough ascended armor does require 6 pieces, so that’ll keep the silk price a bit, but that won’t last long. Mithril price didn’t change much and you can use that for gambling precursor.
I think some people are trying to cash in so they start spreading rumors how gossamer will keep going up, eventhough deep down they know it isn’t worth that much.
price amount total price
bolt of sillk 23 250 5750
piles of crytalline dust 1425 5 7125
bolt of gossamer 1050 1 1050
philosopher stone 0 5 0
SUM 13925
Need to be profit 15.6022408964
Need for use 13.2619047619
Also, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
I’m actually pretty bad for specing in AH myself. But at least I wear full zerker so hopefully that isn’t too bad.
its 30 trait points that could be better spent elsewhere (fiery wrath,unscathed contender, elusive power and radiant power being low cost, big effect or having several other powerful traits in their trees)
I blame strife lol. I copied his build. But I’m kind of a noob. Those toughness helped me from getting 1 shot when I missed my dodge.
But having more toughness do help grab more agro, so if you mean support as in tanking. I suppose.
Also, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Unless I’m a noob, AH don’t actually heal you ally. Nothing in that tree even support your ally. All it does is make you survive better, but nothing about your ally.
I have symbols, dodge roll (which on avg heals about 10% per roll, AND I can roll 3-4 in a row before no endurance. I have the F2 forgot the name. And that combined with the elite that resets F1-F3, I heal a lot. That in addition to the fact that I prioritize empowering over my own damage which is low. I also can take a hit. Often times, I can stand and take damage then others can’t. But this is all besides my point which people don’t seem to care about being selfish so I give up. Be selfish. I’ll learn via YouTube and join the no noob groups.
I didn’t say guardian is bad at support. I just say that tree actually didn’t support your group at all.
And I like your attitude. Other people are selfish to care about their time when you can’t stand to take your time to do the dungeon yourself.
Also, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Unless I’m a noob, AH don’t actually heal you ally. Nothing in that tree even support your ally. All it does is make you survive better, but nothing about your ally.
