I bought like 10 of the wings, and I’m wondering if it is a big mistake.
The reason is everytime I put up a buy order, I got the item within 1 minutes. If you think about it that’s like 1440 wings being sold in a day. Cross finger and hope everything go well.
Support is not useless, the real problem with it is that it’s heavily tied into DPS, because most classes can go full berserker’s with a damage oriented trait set up and still have some decent support traits/abilities/whatnot going on.
Defiant is a real problem though I agree.
The guy hit it in the nail. People talk like dps character dont’ do any support.
Even if I’m wearing full zereker I can still use controll skill.
Take a look at guild wars 2 spidy. In the first day there are almost 200 on the auction house. So for a 30 day event, you’ll be seeing like 6000+ wings, those arn’t even include the ones people don’t sell.
The way I see it, it’ll take a very long time for it to go back up. Just take a look at super great sword and it’s volume is only 200 now.
I’m keeping mine. But I’m really looking for very long term investment. Maybe in a few years it’ll go up. But expect to take a very long time because the volume is “huge”.
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I’m on TC and even there the mid level zones are all empty most of the time, you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone there or even run across anyone while playing. Most people are in the really low levels doing dailies or really high level zones gathering or focused in LA running FotM because the other dungeons save for CoF P1 aren’t profitable.
LS sometimes focuses people in a single zone for a time but that’s all you’ll see.
Until their kitchen sink is implemented (the massive UI update that all mmo’s must have in order to keep things fresh) and the combat updates are complete to fix the problems with CC, support, and condition damage we’ll be seeing alot more empty zones.
I’ll call you on this. I’m on TC and there’s almost always people in the middle zones, even in prime Australian time.
Actually no, unless they have some kind of weird overflow thing going that’s not being told to the public because I’m constantly in these zones and no one is there. I rarely see anyone, ever, I see only people in the Queens and the Norn starter zones and I see people in Orr occassionally but never in the mid level zones even with people guesting so that’s one thing you’ll definitely not win the argument on man I have hundreds of hours of play time with it being empty because those are the places I go to to finish my dailies and to gather certain types of materials to sell to the TP because they are typically higher then the ones that sell for copper.
Well if you’re constantly in zones and I’m constantly in zones, what…we’re the only two? It doesn’t make sense. There are other people in my guild constantly all over the place. Are we such exceptions?
and there are 24 hours in a day, 26 zones to fill, and 51 server to fill.
51 server across 26 zones is like 1326 zones.
It take like 2 hours to do map completion in a zone. 6478 hours have pass since the game is launch. So the 2 of you who spend like 2 hours in a mid level zone don’t help.
I didn’t even include wvw zones and city maps and dungeon that is where most people is.
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I’ll call you on this. I’m on TC and there’s almost always people in the middle zones, even in prime Australian time.
Exactly, I spend 30+ minutes making a full circle around sparkfly fen, dredgehaunt cliff, and timberline fall. And manage to find 1 person on TC.
If people arn’t finding people, they are just not trying hard enough.
all joke aside, I think some sort of scavenge hunt can bring people back to lowbie zone.
Talk about a straw man argument. You could have someone 10 feet away from you, around the corner and you wouldn’t see them. You could have players even culled if there are lots of creatures in an area.
Use map chat and talk to people. I almost always get a response so someone has to be there. And some people don’t even have map chat on.
You mean finding people in a zone is like guild bounty mission? I’m really just joking but there really is no one. I make a full circle across 3 zones, which take 30+ minutes and see 1 person.
So you said. And I asked if you talked in map chat. It’s perfectly reasonable to assume that even if there’s a dozen people in a zone, you could cross entire zones without running into them.
nope, I just went to the same 3 zone. ask in map chat if anyone is in the zone. No one answer. Even if there are people there, I don’t think they’ll bother to answer.
Face it, there are no reason to go back to mid level zone unless you are doing map completion. If they want to bring people back, some sort of scavenge hunt is a good start.
And sorry, I’m just being silly to actually test it. Hope I don’t offend you in anyway.
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I’ll call you on this. I’m on TC and there’s almost always people in the middle zones, even in prime Australian time.
Exactly, I spend 30+ minutes making a full circle around sparkfly fen, dredgehaunt cliff, and timberline fall. And manage to find 1 person on TC.
If people arn’t finding people, they are just not trying hard enough.
all joke aside, I think some sort of scavenge hunt can bring people back to lowbie zone.
Talk about a straw man argument. You could have someone 10 feet away from you, around the corner and you wouldn’t see them. You could have players even culled if there are lots of creatures in an area.
Use map chat and talk to people. I almost always get a response so someone has to be there. And some people don’t even have map chat on.
You mean finding people in a zone is like guild bounty mission? I’m really just joking but there really is no one. I make a full circle across 3 zones, which take 30+ minutes and see 1 person.
I’m on TC and even there the mid level zones are all empty most of the time, you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone there or even run across anyone while playing. Most people are in the really low levels doing dailies or really high level zones gathering or focused in LA running FotM because the other dungeons save for CoF P1 aren’t profitable.
LS sometimes focuses people in a single zone for a time but that’s all you’ll see.
Until their kitchen sink is implemented (the massive UI update that all mmo’s must have in order to keep things fresh) and the combat updates are complete to fix the problems with CC, support, and condition damage we’ll be seeing alot more empty zones.
I’ll call you on this. I’m on TC and there’s almost always people in the middle zones, even in prime Australian time.
That’s my point of my previous post…
Some say it’s empty and some say it full off life, how empty is empty to OP? To give him help to decide if it’s empty or not is to know how full of life the server has to be according to OP.I base this on assuming OP’s server isn’t realy empty it may be low populated.
Empty as in, not a single soul during dynamic events / group events….i’m the only one there
I managed to find 1 person on TC in 30+ minutes across making circle on 3 zones.
I’ll call you on this. I’m on TC and there’s almost always people in the middle zones, even in prime Australian time.
Exactly, I spend 30+ minutes making a full circle around sparkfly fen, dredgehaunt cliff, and timberline fall. And manage to find 1 person on TC.
If people arn’t finding people, they are just not trying hard enough.
all joke aside, I think some sort of scavenge hunt can bring people back to lowbie zone.
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I think people are just clueless. Darkfall is an open world full loot pvp game.
That is why resource isn’t shared. That is why it take time to teleport.
I don’t play darkfall so I’m not sure if what I say is right. But is people clueless?
You can’t have shared resource because it’s a full loot pvp game where people fight over resource.
And 2 min on portal so people won’t teleport out when their in danger in a full loot game.
That is bad game design? That seemed the right thing to do.
ok I get it Anet want to keep those skins and miniature pristine. Thus those items are only available during event.
But how about actually gear? People need to spend 10 gold on a single sigil and 19 gold on a single piece of armor? (I’m talking about sigil of generosity and armor with sentinel stats).
They said they could release molten facility as a fractal but wont bring back the specific rewards to that instance(i.e. sentinel mats/gear).
Actually he only says he won’t bring back the jet backpack
Your not blaming people for not able to find a group, which obviously is very easy. Your just upset other people are elitist.
Stop kidding yourself. Getting a group is so easy. I used to do 50 cof run everyday warriror speed run. Now I do 8 cof run on every class. The time it take to join a group with my warrior or other class is almost the same.
do you know how fast cof group fill up? try to go gwlfg. Every group is fill in 1 minutes.
Only problem is if you don’t type fast enough every group is fill so fast that it is hard to join.
I do cof path 1 with my 8 level 80 everyday without a problem. Stop kidding youself. Your just upset other people is doing 7 minutes warrior run, and in a normal group it’ll take like 15 minutes.
(almost being literally here, I nearly asleep doing a run and still didn’t mess up)
I belive they said they wanted to avoid situations like this, any class could do any dungeon without issues….doesnt seem that way now does it?
So basically you can do the dungeon in your sleep with any class… Yet you have problem running the dungeon with any class?
salvaged 33 rares, got 23 ecto. june/19/2013
But a big difference is 2 million people playing across 50 realms vs …
please no more made up number. As far as I know everyone is making up GW2 population number ranging from 200k to 2 million.
If you mean world of darkness, I dont’ think that many people are hype about a game no one knows anything about. You usually need more press release to build up the hype.
GW2 is the best game of 2012 and 2013 for me. But I think people should stop taking those rating and scores too seriously. Usually those are just number made up of a single person or just not reliable because of fake fans. The only thing which might be remotely accurate on popularity is how many hits and post those game forums have.
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First of all ESO is scheduled for spring 2014.
Nothing wrong with GW2 being #1. But it is just the opinion of a random person on random website, who may or may not be biased because the website get paid for advertisement, he may get free game time for trying out games because he’s a columnist and he might be baised because certain game studio give his site exclusive interview.
And I’m not even talking about GW2. I’m talking about people taking those game scores and ranking on random web site too seriously. First of all those ranking and scores isn’t even credible, which is obvious, so I dont’ know why people argue about it very often on mmorpg.com.
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I feel GW2 took first place because it’s a buy to play mmo. The quality of game play you get for a one time payment is remarkable.
I have yet to run into a buy to play mmo with the type of quality GW2 has.
So GW2 is the #1 mmo of 2013 because a single person from a random website said so?
I like Bill Murphy and I read his blog and video all the time. But I think you take a blog which dont’ mean much too seriously.
listen, I think we got more spies.
Basically there really isn’t much to do, and that is exactly why me and many people are playing this game.
Take a look at the reply in this post. I ask people what they do, and the reply I get is, I do what ever I want to do ( without listing anything which really is doing nothing ), and talk about running around areas they already went to doing nothing.
And the living story content which is produced every 15-30 days can be consumed in 2 hours.
But that is also the good thing because not everyone have the time to sit through raid like a second job.
So what people really want is WoW end game. Why? What is so great a out WoW end game. What is so great about logging in every day to raid just to get gear just to do more raid just to do it all over again when the level cap goes up again from 90 to 95.
I did all of that I don’t want to do that again. I will get what ever gear I want when I hit 80 in this game then level my alts and do the same.
WoW has become nothing but a race to level cap just to raid and run heroics. If that’s what people think of as fun well I’m glad I don’t play WoW any more.
I’m sort of confused by your comment. You don’t want a WoW-grind-like MMO, but you don’t mind grinding dungeons for endgame in GW2? Um… What?
Thing is I don’t have to grind those dungeons if I don’t want to.
So what do you actually do? beside pvp and wvw.
So many threads like this… So why start another?
So the same person can make a reply saying he’s wrong, GW2 is the best game in the world, and which mmorpg don’t have grind. And start making comparison to every other mmorpg and tell you how great GW2 is and how every other game is more grindy.
And in fact he’ll probably tell you, you are playing the game wrong.
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gwlfg? I dont’ see how its possible you can’t get a group for AC. If you can get 3 people the rest should be filled in a few minutes.
you can just creat another character and use it as mule. So account bound item isnt a problem.
Main problem is probably soul bound item.
Tried it again and only got 4 in 15 minutes this time. But I definitely did get 10 the first time. And I’m sure it wasn’t more than 20 minutes…again I didn’t have a timer going.
I dont’ believe anything you said any way. But if number is inflated by that much not only me I’m sure no one will believe you.
And I’m saying it in a respectful way. This is the internet. You don’t believe everything random people tell you.
I made a statement on how many skale I got in ROUGHLY 15 minutes of farming…or more likely three lots of five minutes each. I was standing on the island where they have the crab toss. Schools of sharks pass by there quite regularly. Every time they swam by, I took them out. I never strayed far from the spot and I did end up with 10 armored scale in my inventory and I had just cleared my inventory before that. I have no reason to lie.
I don’t care if you believe me or not.
So you want to take on a challenge? get a clock, kill those shark for 15 minutes and come back and post how many armored scale you got.
If you are willing to spend so much time yaping on the forum, I’m sure you willing to do a test for 15 minutes.
Now, this COULD be an abberation because I don’t do it that often, but for my money, I’ve personally made more money farming the armored scales.
Some people say they can make 9g/h with skelk on another post.
I didn’t know you can make that much on armor scales. So how many scale you get an hour? like 30?
I don’t know. I got 10 in about 15 minutes…but it might just be an aberration.
I got 50 in under 10 minutes!!! You people crack me up. There’s no way to know what he got. He could say anything he wanted in order to back up his posts, why bother even asking him.
Are you accusing me of lying? Because if you are, I’m done with you. I have no reason to lie. If you think it’s impossible to get 10 armored scale in 15 minutes using the buff by killing sharks I ASSURE you it’s not. I’m not even farming that hard. I’m sure you can get MORE.
I tried for 15 minutes I got 0. And I’m a grenaide engineer. Theoretically the fastest killing class in water. I think you just mistaken armored scale with large scale.
And if you get 10 armored scale how many large scale you got? Like 100? I can honestly say there is no way anyone can get 10 armored scale in 15 minutes at least not consistantly over a long period of time.
No, I’m NOT mistaken armored scale for large scale. I have far more than 10 large scale. I’m farming with a ranger using a jellyfish, with that F2 AOE. It works just fine. I really hope someone else verifies this, because this is just silly.
I kill like 5-6 shark at a time using grenaide. All I can say is I can’t do it. I think you are crazy to say you can get 10 armored scale in 15 minutes? If you want to know I only get 15 large scale in 15 minutes. Not even an armored scale.
Now, this COULD be an abberation because I don’t do it that often, but for my money, I’ve personally made more money farming the armored scales.
Some people say they can make 9g/h with skelk on another post.
I didn’t know you can make that much on armor scales. So how many scale you get an hour? like 30?
I don’t know. I got 10 in about 15 minutes…but it might just be an aberration.
I got 50 in under 10 minutes!!! You people crack me up. There’s no way to know what he got. He could say anything he wanted in order to back up his posts, why bother even asking him.
Are you accusing me of lying? Because if you are, I’m done with you. I have no reason to lie. If you think it’s impossible to get 10 armored scale in 15 minutes using the buff by killing sharks I ASSURE you it’s not. I’m not even farming that hard. I’m sure you can get MORE.
I tried for 15 minutes I got 0. And I’m a grenaide engineer. Theoretically the fastest killing class in water. I think you just mistaken armored scale with large scale.
And if you get 10 armored scale how many large scale you got? Like 100? I can honestly say there is no way anyone can get 10 armored scale in 15 minutes at least not consistantly over a long period of time.
Now, this COULD be an abberation because I don’t do it that often, but for my money, I’ve personally made more money farming the armored scales.
Some people say they can make 9g/h with skelk on another post.
I didn’t know you can make that much on armor scales. So how many scale you get an hour? like 30?
If Anet was putting gear with 150% of the power of similar level weapons in the cash shop, only available with cash bought currency, you’d have a strong point. But then I wouldn’t have come close to touching this game.
Most p2w games do give players the ability to obtain every item in the game. It’s just the grind to do so without paying real cash is horrific. So your argument is not really good.
If that’s say tomorrow Anet release ascended armor and ascended weapon but each piece cost like 300 gold. Or 1800 gold for a full set of armor. Would you consider that pay 2 win?
Not that Anet would do that but just because you can obtain every item in game dont’ mean it’s not pay 2 win.
I didn’t say you’d get as much money, that’s putting words in my mouth.
You have a short memory. Below is your quote:
Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.
I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”
I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.
Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?
I saw your comment the first time.
The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.
Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.
Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.
And how much money you make per hour? Your just giving out sentimental argument without real concrete number.
I know this stuns you but I’ll never farm for an hour straight, so I couldn’t possibly tell you. But since armored scale seem to be dropping quite well and since they sell for more than blood at this moment, I’ll go and say that until you try it, you’ll never know.
And if there is one single spot in the game where you can make significantly more than any other spot, for significantly less effort, it should be nerfed. That’s actually good game design, not bad game design.
So basically you can’t back up what you are saying. You say those shark are as good as farming other event in terms of efficiency but you can’t back it up.
And someone actually told me about shark farming a while ago. I believe those shark don’t have knockback and engineer is great to grenaide them. But the thing with farming those is they are not event, so if there are too many people it’ll get over crowded.
I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”
I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.
Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?
I saw your comment the first time.
The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.
Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.
Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.
And how much money you make per hour? Your just giving out sentimental argument without real concrete number.
I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”
I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.
Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?
Don’t mind Vayne. He don’t understand making 5-7 gold an hour is much more than 2-3 gold an hour.
There obviously is comparible difference in farming efficiency.
Or that people who just like to farm (i’m not one of them, i can farm now and then but not for long, i don’t mind if others do that, even if that makes them rich) are probably 50% or more of MMO playerbase. And what will they do if you constantly nerf farming? Well we all know it…
ya I don’t want to get involve in that conversation but it is really people’s expectation.
Some people are happy that they play a few hours and make like a few gold which is “much less efficient” than farming in a specific spot(people like Vayne). Some are not. It really is your expectation.
Don’t mind Vayne. He don’t understand making 5-7 gold an hour is much more than 2-3 gold an hour.
There obviously is comparible difference in farming efficiency.
This. These items are not pay to win. They’re, if anything, purely for convenience. Pay to win would be offering ascended weapons in the gem store only, for 2000 gems each.
well you can buy ascended backpiece with real life money or spend alot of time in fractal which not everyone want to do. It’s already there. It’s really one of those grey area.
i absolutely agree with the OP. it is already in the game and “there are much worse games” argument is childish.
I actually can’t find a better payment model “for me”, that’s why I’m playing.
It’s not that there are much worse game. “Every” game have a worse payment model for me. You either have to go through those p2w games, or hybrid games which have a subscription and being treat like a second class citizen.
The reality is every game is trying to make money.
I dotn’ think those skill points or karma is that much a big deal. farming like 2k+ gold is the hard part. It’s probably harder to farm 2k + gold instead to craft one yourself.
And people with fat wallet is what make this game without a subscription fee. Those people are really paying for what other people should be paying.
I’m not sure what’s harder, paying 2300 gold or 800$ US, or farm it yourself. They are all pretty hard to be honest.
They changed something to downscaling a while ago, so there isn’t too much power difference between a low level and a max level character.
But more than anything, I think experience does matter.
Get in a good group. THat’s all I can say. I don’t think the dungeon is that hard, so if you ran it like 5 times, I doubt you’ll fail 5 times ina row unless you are really unlucky with getting good party.
One good strategy for the last boss is to fill “all 3 power” first before you engage ghost eater. So you don’t need to power the thing during fighting.
You die probably because you arn’t full dps. Usually 1 “F1” button with axe, or GS 4,5,3 is enough to kill the acolyte in 1 second and run.
The gate part is a bit tricky. Most of the time people die because of bleeding. Usually shake it off or mending is enough. If you are really in trouble because all other people’s mob run to you pop a fire elemental powder or ogre pet. That usually solve the problem.
u guys are getting this all wrong, GW2 dungeon isnt hard at all, its just boring and unentertaining, its complete crap is what im saying. I love the game and i wish it was better.
its not hard to learn to dodge press V eventually you’ll get it, but how is that fun…your like dodging 90% of the fight….ppl skip trash mobs and go straight to boss, yes its quick and easy but WTF is the point of adding trash mobs, there is no sense of group play.
when i bought the game i was expecting way more….something better then WOW or any other MMO, So far i only like the leveling part but im not a altaholic, i like end games and some PvP(PvP IMO in GW2 is fun)
This is what i feel too, its not hard its tedious and frustrating so people dodge it all for the final rewards… what an exciting experience..
Ps. Dodging is not a new mmo concept..
Sure other game don’t have the “v” button, but you still need to move around and get out of danger.
Dungeon is ok for me in this game. It’s really the endgame which is bothering me. There really is nothing to do except to do the same dungeon over and over again. And I got burned out because of it.
If I were to ran the same dungeon hundreds of times in wow, aoc, rift or whatever game, I’d get burned out too. Usually raid solve the problem for me because there usually is a week timer on raid.
GW2 probably try to solve it using guild event, but those just not too interesting for me.
And to the OP who asked me, ya I think you played the wrong game. Mitra or Vayne, probably answer you on that too.
It is just a really casual game, and if you are expecting some min/maxing dungeon crawler, this isn’t it. I dont’ like the dungeons myself, but the GW2 graphic, casual aproach, being a bargain game, decent quest and solo exploration is what kept me playing.
btw isnt every game is like WOW? lol i never understood this.
You level/quest/group dungeons <- what WOW is and GW 2 is…
it isnt like WOW is the first MMORPG…its just WOW is the new benchmark. So the ppl that hates on WOW i don’t understand why.
Why can’t you leave one game for the rest of us?
So basically the people complain played the wrong game? They should just go play other game.