Guild Wars 2

Mac.3872:

maha.7902:

The reason I reply is firstly to educate people on realising that stacking is both not an issue and that if it’s such a major issue they can make no stack lfgs. Secondly, so that if there is an anet reading that they don’t take the OP seriously because they’re whining about a non issue. You, however, just don’t like stacking, and want to reply in threads with people who share your view so that you can feel good about yourself.

Firstly: Its not an issue for YOU. You are not educating anyone, you are simply trying to make people think as you do.

Replying to threads where people share my opinion does not make me “feel good” I am taking part in a discussion with like minded people. You should probably try doing that.

Maybe start your own thread about how awesome stacking is. its not that hard

/thread

And the way I think is right, therefore it is teaching.

MrTitan.1654:

I do appreciate your input but I feel that through my shouts and support build (trooper runes) am more needed in a group where rest are DPS while I boon them and remove their conditions. However, I do have CoF zerk armor and I will do a Fotm run just to see which one feels better. Thank you all.

Trait your virtues to remove conditions on f2 and take purging flames if you need condition removal. Then just stick on dps traits and scholar runes, you’ll support and do damage at the same time.

The reason I reply is firstly to educate people on realising that stacking is both not an issue and that if it’s such a major issue they can make no stack lfgs. Secondly, so that if there is an anet reading that they don’t take the OP seriously because they’re whining about a non issue. You, however, just don’t like stacking, and want to reply in threads with people who share your view so that you can feel good about yourself.

Carlos.4371:

Hammer is an awesome tool, but with very low DPS as primary weapon. But it is real gold as a 2nd weapon in my opinion!

I mainly do PvP, but I also have enough PvE experience doing dungeons dialy and high Lvl Fractals every week. In PvE I love to run a “Axe/Horn – Hammer warrior”. I use the Axe as primary weapon for the decent DPS (the Autoattack on its own is just strong), the Horn is the perfect 2nd weapon for Axe, weakness against mobs, groupwide Vigor and Blast Finisher is too good.

I make use of Fast Hands and Sharpened Axes , I gain adrenaline very fast that way and can CC mobs every 7 seconds being able to switch fast. I use the Hammer only to CC mobs and trigger combo fields, very good if there are Eles and Mesmers. Then I use weakness and maybe bring mobs closer together with 4, then I quickly switch to Axe/Horn again, doing my damage. This combo is repeatable very quickly thanks to Fast Hands.

I know this doesn’t reach the DPS of a GS setup, but in contrary this playstyle provides much more support, more control and also much more interaction with the group. If it is superior or not, not sure…but definitely something completely underrated or unknown yet.

The support is completely redundant. Why use a zero dps weapon like hammer when you can either use axe with off hand mace to CC mobs, or axe warhorn to apply the weakness and then burst with all of your gs skills? A lot of times I’ve pugged there’s some guy in some full PVT tank build who somehow just holds aggro which means you can just wail on mobs while they do nothing to you. If they do, then well you’re a warrior and can soak hits even in berserker, you have 3 evades and CC in your main dps set (gs + a/m). If you’re using sharpened axes that means you’re either giving up berserkers power, attack of opportunity or even worse slashing power or forceful Greatsword if you stuck points in tactics or defence.

Mac.3872:

Purple Miku.7032:

Why are you playing GW2 if you don’t like the mechanics of the combat?

Maybe he fell for their advertising?

And only after spending 50£ learned all there is to it is stack and mash.

how about you … Stop playing? If you don’t enjoy a game doesn’t it make sense to stop playing it? It’s like everyone on this forum is addicted to self flagellation, they whine about stacking over and over again and just … Carry on playing, making themselves annoyed and whining some more. I mean if you still wanted to play you could just make no stack lfgs – it’s not that hard.

blakdoxa.7520:

Selfish gear? What the hell are you guys on.
I understand wearing the zerk gear and that the combo gives significantly more damage than pvt, but I don’t get labeling pvt selfish gear.
It helps you survive plain and simple.

Read that back to yourself. It helps YOU survive. Berserker gear helps you dps quickly, improving the party survivability as you kill mobs faster.

medohgeuh.4650:

SephiSlash.6780:

Oh look it’s this thread again.

Some of us don’t live on the forums.

If you’re just going to make stacking thread #8436292048472 and then probably just not bother reading your thread after the first day since you “don’t live on the forums” then maybe step back, think for a minute and decide not to post the thread. I’ll be blunt – nobody here is interested in reading another solution thread for an imaginary problem.

Cameirus.8407:

I bought the shadow assassin costume on my male sylvari, and it looks great and I love it (though the main colour has an odd lustre but whatever).

However, I then though, why not try a thief, this costume would look kitten on a female human thief….so I made one, put the costume on….and WTF? First no proper head piece, its now a mask, secondly why is my ninja assassin showing more skin than most pole dancers, and WTF is going on with the comedy (stupid) bow comming off her kitten ?

Why Anet? Why?

Why take a good skin and make it like that on female characters? are you artists juvenile sexually charged teenagers that all women costumes need to flash as much skin as possible?

I was extremely disappointed in seeing this. Deleted the character.

edit: to avoid confusion, I dont get why the female version is SO different from the males….I dont object to revealing outfits, but for an assassins costume, lack of a hood and a massive kitten bow seam an odd choice.

Your ninja assassin is not showing more skin than pole dancers. Why do you feel the need to write such hyperbole when the game is full of modest outfits, this one included? It’s like people just can’t handle even the slightest bit of skin showing.

re roll warrior/thief/class which actually has mobility and you wil save yourself a lot of pain

kielbasamonster.5623:

Mechanic to minimize stacking:
Boss drops some form of aoe on each player. Players not stacked will take relatively trivial damage, but stacked players will take the combined damage of each aoe. This would work with conditions as well.

Subject Alpha.

Taygus.4571:

Mystic.5934:

I agree the kicking system needs an overhaul
I disagree that anyone should specify what class they want in their party. any time someone in my party tries that, I try to kick them. If that fails, I gtfo. better to suffer a little crazy and escape than to suffer a lot of crazy then get backstabbed. * people who dictate other’s professions/builds are the same people who kick you and invite their guildies on the last boss.*

Lolz not true.
Se p1 can be an absolute pain without heavies/reflect.

Having 3 ele’s and 2 necro’s trying to stack = facepalm.

So for the first golem, a necro can fear him in to a wall, two eles can conjure fiery greatswords, the necros take the second swords. Ele #3 takes off hand focus and uses swirling winds and magnetic wave to give the party enough projectile absorption to kill the boss. Skip a bunch of mobs, all eles can take focus off hand an chain swirling winds for the second boss. Necros can apply vuln and do dps. Three golems, pull them in to a corner, drop fiery greatswords, one ele keeps their focus on to swirl and magnetic wave. Tazza just pull out and kill like usual. And there you go, you just cleared SE p1 probably 2x faster than most pug groups.

And pug runs are never fast.

Durzlla.6295:

spoj.9672:

If you force people to fight bosses in a certain way then more and more people will try to find exploits and safe spots to cheese it. Or just not do the content. And an anti stacking mechanic like that will probably be very easy to exploit and prevent the boss from not attacking anyone (Move in and out of stack spot, watch boss get stuck running between spots).

The best solution is just to make bosses dangerous so there is risk when you stack. Just like they did with the spider queens poison. This forces you to have a proper plan when you stack to dps a boss.

Or they could just make it so the bosses AoE barrage of doom is used anytime X amount of players are so close to each other so one person moving doesn’t phase the AI.

let’s be honest here, you’re not even thinking before you post these ideas

raethe.1903:

I love my mesmer, I considered her my main for the longest time – she was my first to 80. But recently I play my guardian/ele/warrior/thief to be useful in speed dungeons – I do more damage and have more use on any of my other classes, which means more fun for me.

(BTW, looking for a good NA speed meta guild, please)

Sadly, the only time I bring out the mesmer is for fractals, the occasional Arah duo or chatting in LA.

Zerk Wars [Only], Coldsnap [IX], Death and Taxes [DnT] off the top of my head.

I don’t think he realises you can just pull it to a corner and FGS it.

Hammer dps is honestly just bad. I did a hambow lupicus solo and it was like 9:35 or something terrible like that.

or you just take a warrior with a rifle with sigil of leeching
or mesmer w/duelists

ok maybe not mesmer

ahahahahahaha

don’t flatter the Mesmer class that much

mhlgaming.6729:

maha.7902:

mhlgaming.6729:

Just a quick suggestion as a small event annoyed me earlier. There I was, making a LFM for Sorrows Embrace speedrun, asking for specific classes… the people then join with classes I didn’t ask for and proceed to kick me for wanting other classes played. I believe there should be a party leader system that dictates the group, allowing players to be kicked without asking others and also preventing them from being kicked so stupid stuff like that doesn’t happen. May I also suggest that you implement a mechanic that allows people to look for certain classes within the LFG?… that would help a lot and prevent the wrong classes joining and making trouble.

Seriously, whats the point in requiring something if other people are just going to ignore that and then kick you from your own lfg making you have to look again and set up the whole LFG system once more, it gets on my nerves.

I don’t think you know what a speed run is

And I don’t think you do either ;D.. since a speed run is just a generic term for a fast run. It’s not a set in stone phrase and depending on who says it, it means different.

World records are speed runs. You going in the lfg hoping you get players who aren’t terrible and then having a run which is then like 2-3x the time of the world record of that path is not a speed run.

Vakrir.4829:

Sins.4782:

Vakrir.4829:

Sins.4782:

Why, then, would you want to bring more than one warrior, when you could instead bring 1 (covering both banners and EA) and fill the rest of your slots with higher dps professions?

So you can balance banners and ps/ea so you don’t have a useless 5th member that hits like a tissue paper. By all means, kick warriors and replace them with necros, you heard it here first.

If your team is halfway decent you will have might stacking covered, and PS would only lower dps. It’s also not hard to find someone to carry your second banner. Not even guang thinks necromancers are good in dungeons, but you may be interested in seeing DnT’s fully buffed necro vs war dps comparison.

I’ve found might stacking in groups to be difficult without PS because most people can’t kill the target in less than whatever the might blast duration is, and then you end up with 0 might. PS guarantees you’re always at 25 stacks for the whole party, and is especially useful against trash when you’re not going to bother to might stack anyway. Also the second banner problem is bigger than you might think. Most people just don’t notice banners and forget, even if they plan on taking the other banner.

Necros are just plain not recommended, there are many better classes you ckittene. I would take literally any other class gladly over a necro.

S/d ele with strength runes can open a fight with like 6 blast finishers, use LH until they run out of conjure charges then restack it again and take out their second LH. With persisting flames you would be giving fury as well and there would be no need to run a low DPS phalanx strength build, you could just have a regular dps warrior spamming FGJ off cooldown and dropping both banners in the fire field. Just because you play with bad groups doesn’t mean more than one warrior is suddenly good, it just makes a group a bit more idiot proof.

I was never given a script to write down in sparkly gel pen T_T

you keep pugging with yours though >:D

ZudetGambeous.9573:

apawolla.6923:

For thouse of you (and there are many!) that think that zerker build is the only good dmg build.
You are so freaking wrong!!!
i hit twice as much with my condition ranger then i do with my zerker chars.
Those that are making squads and only accepting zerker builds aren’t very smart ….

No… No you don’t.

Assuming 100% uptime and 2100 condition damage and 25 stacks of might (875 condition damage)
This gives us:
Bleed: 4781 dps
Burn: 1071 dps
Poison: 381 dps
3 torment: 430 dps

= 6600 DPS…

That is less than half of a zerker ranger build and that is assuming conditions are 10x better than can actually occur.

Try again.

Find a berserker ranger lupicus solo which is faster than conditions. Your double dps claim refers to maxed out group situation with optimal rotations and full pet uptime, neither of which will happen often.

human female

you should know this by now

:D

apawolla.6923:

For thouse of you (and there are many!) that think that zerker build is the only good dmg build.
You are so freaking wrong!!!
i hit twice as much with my condition ranger then i do with my zerker chars.
Those that are making squads and only accepting zerker builds aren’t very smart ….

If you solo heavy armour targets, you will do more damage with a condition build than a berserker build.

Against medium, light and no armour targets though, and especially in groups, berserker will pull ahead though.

OP makes thread about viability of sword in solo pve
you make reply saying conditions are bad
I link to my solo which is faster than the fastest berserker solo uploaded to date
You make excuse about playing muliplayer games and large scale content

do you realise your post literally has nothing to do with how good/bad sword is in solo pve and how good/bad conditions are in solo pve?

The fact that we didn’t even know optimal team compositions until like, the past year and are still learning things about the classes in PvE demonstrates that there’s a level of depth there.

PvP and PvE have two different types of depth, but depth nonetheless. Unless you want to descend in to mindless mudslinging where you call PvE afk stack press 1 and I call PvP afk’ing on points with bunker builds, but that isn’t even remotely constructive nor true.

Vv W.7821:

Swords are nice for their conditions, but condition damage is a little bit lacking in PvE. However power builds on swords are not exactly bad. Final thrust and Rip both do fine damage, with the rest doing mediocre damage but with conditions to back them up. It’s not the best set to avoid condition damage on, but between might and a secondary weapon that then doesn’t have to do condition damage it’s quite nice.

Condition damage is lacking he says.

Find me a faster solo in berserker gear.

Oh wait you can’t ahahahahahahahahaha

The best bit is how the quickness from time warp throws off the timing of literally everyone’s dps rotations so it’s not even that good.

Bo Van Swill.7619:

As a mesmer main i only play WvW and i solo roam a lot and well if anyone thinks we are useless then they need to l2p because as a mesmer i can dish out huge damage or shut down player with condi’s Mesmers rock but we do need to have a few things buffed and the nerf every time they patch need’s to stop BUt overall mesmers rule.

That’s nice. In the mean time, the 95% of other mesmers doing large scale wvw, dungeons and PvP are complete dead weights because they are playing a class which just doesn’t fit in any current meta.

it’s like people can’t comprehend the fact that some people just play certain classes because they enjoy them. what fun is the game if you can’t play it the way you enjoy playing it?

The best bit is where the OP wants to make a need for tank an healer builds despite it being stated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that there will not be tanks or healers in this game. It’s almost as if they’re playing the wrong game.

10/30/0/10/20 – V/ III – VIII – XIII / V / III – VI – full rabid, aristocracy runes, sw/sw + lb, strength/bursting on swords, your choice between corruption, battle, energy, bursting, smoldering on longbow.

You don’t even need them for portals, just use the consumable. Mesmers are dead weight trash tier class below necro.

mhlgaming.6729:

Just a quick suggestion as a small event annoyed me earlier. There I was, making a LFM for Sorrows Embrace speedrun, asking for specific classes… the people then join with classes I didn’t ask for and proceed to kick me for wanting other classes played. I believe there should be a party leader system that dictates the group, allowing players to be kicked without asking others and also preventing them from being kicked so stupid stuff like that doesn’t happen. May I also suggest that you implement a mechanic that allows people to look for certain classes within the LFG?… that would help a lot and prevent the wrong classes joining and making trouble.

Seriously, whats the point in requiring something if other people are just going to ignore that and then kick you from your own lfg making you have to look again and set up the whole LFG system once more, it gets on my nerves.

I don’t think you know what a speed run is

Your first example of a zerker fest is a boss that is immune to critical hits?

Swish.2463:

I would play Guardian if they had any decent ranged options tbh…

except scepter is guardian’s highest dps weapon

Fluffball.8307:

I’m saying I think it scale to the level of the golem OR spawn 4 times a day (or whatever it is the other world bosses do.) No one will know when to go to the giant because it spawns 24 times a day. The likelihood of 20 people just randomly showing up seems about nil, since even with the map highly populated right now 20 people aren’t showing up. Thus only organized guild groups will be able to complete it.

I would be 100% ok with it spawning 24 times a day if it had like 100,000 health. That would be a really fun way to nonchalantly work on the giant title.

You want a legendary that dies in about 12 seconds to one player?

And how many dead weights were around scaling the HP up?

Ken.3128:

We also do Arah, but the main point of this post is too find some reliable people for dungeon running. Leaving Arah in the post may put some people off as they may lack experience or what not.

The only people you would be scaring off are people who are:

1. inexperienced with their class
2. do not have knowledge of every dungeon

I.E. people you never wanted anyway.

I asked guildies and apparently he has like 15 million HP even at the lowest scaling. But then one of them told me he was killing it with like… 25 other people and the collective DPS of the zerg was around 30k, so i’m sure a 5-man group of glass cannons outputting around 60k DPS together would be able to melt it pretty fast.

So it was exactly the same as it currently is in GW2, except GW1 literally just had more skills.

So in both games we have useless builds, useless weapons, useless gear (well I think GW1 didn’t have gear stats, just runes or something), it’s just that in GW1 you had more useless builds since there were more useless skills, but when it came to optimisation you still had to run a build from a very small pool of builds, which is basically identical to GW2. And yet GW1 is harped as some sort of holy grail of build diversity despite the fact that you can make twenty shades of terrible builds in both games, you still won’t be wanted in organised groups.

Or am I missing something?

why do you not do arah when it has the best gold per path out of any dungeon

this guy speaks the truth

Why would you reply to a pve thread with a pointless wvw anecdote

Out of all of these supposedly diverse builds in GW1, how many of them were actually meta? Or was it just run build X or be kicked?

obal.3218:

Fall of Abaddon

my character story is she hates rat people l e l

Chaos Archangel.5071:

What I meant is that despite the infraction-to-ban-worthy list of complaints I have about the game, I haven’t found a reason to abandon the class yet.

In PvP, I win more on Mesmer than I do on Elementalist, Thief, or Guardian because I’m better with the class. I don’t want to learn to go deeper into the other classes because their mechanics aren’t as fun as the Mesmer. Despite the nerfs I can still succeed the way I always have, I still enjoy trying out different builds, I still have a good time washing up baddies with my friends and for me that’s where my fun comes in.

I feel the problems with the game hold the class back more than the class itself. Confusion being nerfed, lameish dungeons, ect.

It’s nothing to do with the game, it’s to do with the class. Classes being reliant on pets is already a recipe for disaster, and having literally half your damage come from squishy pets which both have a second cast time and die from someone looking at them funny is what makes them complete trash for dungeons. Pet classes suck in large scale wvw too. PvP well I dunno enough about it nor care enough about it, but I can’t imagine they’re good for anything besides portal tricks like dropping one, getting repair kit then porting back to the treb or things like that.

You only take full DPS build if either the support is already covered or you’re playing a class where support traiting isn’t necessary like thief where your support is exclusively from your utility bar and you just need to load up on damage modifiers. For something like war or guard or ele to be optimal though you’ll be taking supportive traits like empower allies, master of consecrations and persisting flames. So it’s not always optimal at all. And in a game about killing things, why shouldn’t maximising dps be optimal? You don’t kill things by controlling or healing them to death, you do damage to them.