Guild Wars 2

After learning the dungeon mechanics, wiping should be very, very rare. I finish almost every dungeon run without a single damaged piece of armor.

VidGhost.3215:

marnick.4305:

You get lucky on a single run and decide you got DR? Even without DR … 7 rares, 2 exotics and 3 globs is a ton of drops on FotM10. Average is 2-3 rares and 0 globs.

Furthermore, Mystic Forge is not influenced by DR at all…

Your conclusion makes no sense.

Like i said.. this has happens after "every single patch update so far.. not a single run . every single run I’ve done have after a patch i hit the jackpot.. After that each daily run is a worthless waste of time for drops! .. wait until the next patch.. Bingo Drops like CRAZY again… this is not some random fluke its FACT!

You got lucky several times and your reptile brain requires you to find a pattern. Even without any shred of evidence you commit to the first hint of a pattern and call it a fact.

You got lucky several times. By chance it was twice after a patch. That doesn’t make your theory a fact though, it is a guess, and a bad one at that. Not that I blame you, people always need a pattern, even when there’s none. It’s just human to see things that ain’t there.

Evidence is needed, not a hunch about some weird drops that happen once in a blue moon. Even if that blue moon coincides with a patch now and then. Your isolated experience does not constitute as valid proof.

Xynn.2748:

Developers stated that the reason Final Rest hadn’t dropped was because people hadn’t farmed the event enough. Then a month later they say they had forgotten to turn the drop on. Today Final Rest is worth ~12g.

Draw your own inferences.

Not what they said. They upped the droprate from 0.00000000001% on a bugged event to 0.0001% on a working event. Your post is just needless conjecture.

The biggest problem really is the variable length. If I have two hours, you can bet on swampland/underwater/urban for a 30 minutes run. On the other hand, when I barely have 90 minutes, you can bet on cliffside, underground, snowblind. The fractals being a bit more deterministic in time required would fix a lot.

Sure, progression is a good thing and I fully support purely cosmetic progression just like in GW1. I even support AR progression. I can’t support stat progression because it’s against everything competitive gaming stands for.

Which are the coolest fractals designwise?

Imho, in no particular order

- Cliffside. This one is epic. The lore fits, the giant is awesome, the jumping gives a real sense of height and the bow at the end …

- Urban battlefield. Just makes me feel like invading ascalon. Somehow feels more like a first person shooter than MMO

- Swampland. Gives me Jumanji creeps. Especially the Mossman, the whole fractal just feels like a jungle.

Stooperdale.3560:

I can see your point of view but you are not in the core audience for fractals. Fractals are targeted at the the players who are short of content and want something to put their time into, day after day. You can put as much time as you like into fractals going up levels pretty much until you hit your own limit. It can become the top level end game content.

Fractals are not designed to be quick and easy for players without much time, but inevitably those players want the same rewards as the players who do invest a lot of time working up the levels (as always). In this case the fractal rewards are account bound so you do only need one character at a certain level and you can share the rewards across your account. You can also get the ascended items through dailies and crafting so nobody is entirely excluded.

The cost in relics for the rings seems expensive but you get plenty of rings from the daily chests. The barter relics provide you with a specific ring of your choice if you are not satisfied with the looted ones.

As I said in my opening post… I can not and will not play GW2 as if it were a second job. I consider that a healthy position and I believe all content should be catered towards healthy play styles. That is my firm belief, I don’t think I’m alone in that. While progression in the form of AR, unique skins and leaderboards can be hard and arduous, the statbased progression should be relatively easy to achieve by people like me.

maddoctor.2738:

And one of mine: Give players a “point” when they finish a Fractal, once you get 3 “points”, you can fight the Maw, much like how Domain of Anguish worked in Guild Wars 1. That way people with limited time can do 1-2 Fractals then call it quits for the day. Also, getting a very hard (and long) Fractal as your third wouldn’t cause a progress reset… (when you finally quit). To compensate, lower a bit the rewards for the first fractal, while increasing them on the third in row (again much like DoA)

The main counter to the above suggestion is repair costs, but, after the January patch those aren’t an issue anymore in Fractals, so there is nothing against it, or is there?

Totally support that. I will add it.

If anything, the PVE game is more alive than ever. Queensdale has overflows again, which has to do with Behemoth. These 80s help out lower levels though. Even in mid-level zones it is normal to meet up people while Orr has been revitalized by rebalancing some mobs. GW2 is the best PVE MMO in the world, and only becomes better.

As far as PVP is concerned … d3 being more popular on twitch means d3 is more popular, but that “argument” doesn’t hold any merit. Soccer is more popular than Cyclocross yet we all know soccer is the most boring sport in the world. On the other hand, A.net can safely ignore sPVP in order to make the PVE world the best there is. This seems to be the course of action. Furthermore, WvW is the meat and bones of GW2 PVP so I hope they can really implement something cool in march. We’ll see in 2 weeks. However, broken PVP has no bearing on most PVE players.

My objective conclusion is that GW2, just like every MMO including big names like WoW, Eve and Everquest, was released as a beta product. Did you really expect anything different? The whole charm of joining a new MMO is riding the bug wave, and in GW2, it has been a relatively smooth ride thus far. I repeat this one truth: other games were virtually non-playable due to bugs, lag and queues in the first months. GW2 cleanly avoided all that, which was already a revolutionary improvement.

Sales: online stores have sales all the time. GW1 had year round sales too… No ground for a conspiracy. The daily sales coincides well with the daily laurels. People now have a reason to open the gem store every day. That drives revenue, whether or not the sale is relevant to the player.

You get lucky on a single run and decide you got DR? Even without DR … 7 rares, 2 exotics and 3 globs is a ton of drops on FotM10. Average is 2-3 rares and 0 globs.

Furthermore, Mystic Forge is not influenced by DR at all…

Your conclusion makes no sense.

I wanted to post what everyone else said.

However … that vial sells for 79 copper on the merchant. Might be you really made a mistake

This is my take on the FotM dungeon after reaching scale 10 and my first pristine relic.

Who am I: I’m pretty much the definition of a GW2 fanboy, as my post history will prove. However I also have pretty limited time given my job, family, friends and other hobbies. I can’t and won’t play GW2 as a second job, I consider that a healthy position. Furthermore I see myself as a guy who learns extremely fast (which is the #1 requirement for my current job).

What I think of FotM: Yesterday I finally reached FotM scale 10. I like FotM, it is a fun dungeon with nice mechanics. It is hard and not predictable which I really like. I do like optimizing gear.

That being said.

FotM 1-9: FotM 1 through 9 are utterly pointless. I see no reason for them to exist. They give hardly any noticeable loot, no pristine relics, low amount of normal relics. Why I’m forced to do a useless dungeon 9 times is beyond me. After doing every fractal once, I consider myself a master in it given my learning skills. Relic gain is too slow for FotM 1-9 to reasonably lead to an ascended backpiece, which you need for FotM10.

Extremely variable time spent: while I do not mind the time spent in FotM, you never know how long it’ll take. Depending on the randomized Fractals, it can take between 30 minutes or 2 hours. There is no such thing as a “fast fractal run” which means I’m pretty much limited to doing fractals on wednesdays only when my fiancée is not at home. Ten weeks for a single ring???

Exorbitant vendor prices: The ascended back piece costs 5 stacks of relics. Two more to make it ascended, then two more stacks to infuse it. I currently have 2 stacks of relics after reaching 10.
A single ring costs 10 relics which is beyond stupid given I can only do 1 fractal a week under the current imbalanced times required. I learned the mechanics on FotM, give me my loot already …

Character bound progress: My main is an engineer. My alt is a guardian. Probably fractals would go faster with my guardian, but I’m not going through FotM 1-9 again. As said, they make no sense since I mastered the game by FotM 3 on my main.

Solutions!: Because this is constructive criticism.
- Reduce the cost for the Exotic back piece to 500 tokens.
- Reduce the cost for Gift of Ascension to 250 tokens
- Reduce the cost of rings to 3 Pristine tokens
- Put vials, globs and shard of mist essence on the pristine vendor for 1-2-3 tokens
- Put pristine relic on sale for 250 regular tokens
- Greatly reduce the HP of bosses in Snowblind, Underground, Cliffside fractals
- Make FotM progression account wide
- Remove the first 5 FotM scales. This makes you reach agony levels faster and removes non-rewarding initial levels. Basically make FotM4 function as FotM9.

All except the last 2 are basically vendor/number tweaks and could be implemented fast.

Conclusion TL;DR: Doing a perfect run should take about 40 minutes, independant of random fractals. In my opinion, smart casuals should have a realistic expectation of getting BiS gear through this dungeon. Currently, neither of these prime requirements are present.

EDIT:

And one of mine: Give players a “point” when they finish a Fractal, once you get 3 “points”, you can fight the Maw, much like how Domain of Anguish worked in Guild Wars 1. That way people with limited time can do 1-2 Fractals then call it quits for the day. Also, getting a very hard (and long) Fractal as your third wouldn’t cause a progress reset… (when you finally quit). To compensate, lower a bit the rewards for the first fractal, while increasing them on the third in row (again much like DoA)

I understand you don’t like being stuck with misspelled names like Uzzuumakki Naruku or Jamezzz Bond

tigirius.9014:

knight.4379:

Hopefully the March patches will fix this.

You know at this point 6 months later that should not be the mantra we chant. It’s time for a change and it’s not going to happen so long as some people continue with the illusion that everything is perfectly fine with this game as I’ve seen in every post pointing out major flaws both with testing and with the patches. These people need to stop posting nonsense that everything is working properly and start helping those of us actively trying to improve the gameplay for everyone.

And yet your signature is about a useless PTR. You’re not asking for change, you just have an idee fixe that a PTR would solve everything, while in reality it solves nothing, as proven in WoW. Furthermore the problems in GW2 are relatively small all things considered.

Yes, after 6 months, we should be happy about a game that’s actively balanced, rather stable and updated regularly. The biggest P2P game out there doesn’t come even close to the quality of this game despite being 7 years old (and having a PTR)
I do understand some minor issues cause you grievance, but none of those will be fixed with a PTR since they’re so minor. Some people focus only on the negatives. It’s impossible to make them happy, not even a PTR will change that.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Mastermavrick.2439:

@Robert Hrouda

My main gripe is that agony resistance doesn’t carry over to ANY player spawned/controlled minions which in FotM10+ hurts the player a lot, more so for ranger since x % total our of dps is our pet.

We’re aware of and working towards a solution for that problem. Agony Resistance on summoned creatures and pets is something we are trying to do.

Kinda funny how the exact same problem existed in GW1 yet you didn’t predict it in GW2.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Well it is possible that there’re two moons – and they’re on complete opposite sides of Tyria, rotating in the same or nearly the same path.

This is virtually impossible according to physics. Such a resonation makes for a very unstable orbit. For the same reason it’s impossible for an “anti-earth” to exist on the opposite side of the sun. It is a theory that pops up often in layman’s brains though it doesn’t have any scientific merit.

PopeUrban.2578:

While is sounds like a cool idea, the problem with it is that tattoos in GW2 are by every indication a specifically norn feature.

This was done primarily to make norn stand apart as something other than just “big humans” and as cool as it would be to get a few tattoos on other races I doubt it’s going to happen.

Norn: big humans
Asura: small humans
Charr: hairy humans
Sylvari: planty humans

Can’t see the problem. All races are currently humans with a quirk.

75 fractal relics gives you +5 agony resist. Probably the best upgrade for any ascended item currently and cheapest to boot.
Limiting the infusion power to +4 is deliberate to keep them optional.

I would put the 20% gold on your amulet though … it’s like a permanent gold fountain. Beats any stat upgrade.

Please check the january and february updates. Both were huge by all standards. To push such large updates is unseen. To do so every month is unseen. To do so in a f2p game is unique in the entire gaming industry.

Yet you ask for bigger updates? Are you trolling?

I will buy any expansion as long as it doesn’t increase the level cap, gear cap or otherwise destroys my character.

Think differently. In GW1 builds were so highly specialized, they weren’t actually fun to play. And while you may see a million zerk war lfg right now, in GW1 they were merely replaced with either lfm 55 or lfm perma

As an engineer myself I find it funny how you put ** at everything. The engineer can do everything OK but excels nothing. Imho that’s a good thing but very difficult to pull off well.

It’s more like people run faster out of combat. The only alternative is taking away the out-of-combat run boost. Does anyone agree to that?

Endrance.1680:

During the first 3 months of launch GW2 experienced a huge botting problem. This is no secret. During this time the bots flooded the economy dramatically increasing the price of gems. While the staff did a great job of smashing all the bots, they never removed all of the gold produced by the bots from the game. Why haven’t they done so? With gems being literally worth more than the American dollar, people are spending a lot of real world cash on gems to then convert them into in game gold or spending them in the gem store for upgrades.

Not to burst any bubbles but almost everything is worth more than the american dollar.

I lolled so hard with this thread.
1/ OP makes up a completely implausible theory
2/ OP believes A.net didn’t think of the consequences of things they did not implement
3/ OP uses this fake theory to pump the price of his junk since “it always works”

I feel sorry for the people who believed him. Sure your 4000 bag buy order will be filled, but not by A.net. It will be filled by the OP (who will use that as “evidence” for his nonsense)

A.net lock this thread already.

You don’t get it because you don’t work for it /sarcasm.

OP: you’re doing good, hard and important work. You’re one of the reasons I’m thinking about a gold mine share as described in the black lion forum. People who are AFK for longer times should have a substantial increase in gold income.

I have 80 GW1 ectos, I trade in 5 GW2 ecto vs 1 GW1 ecto.

The +5 agony resist is an omni for 75 fractal relics and fits within every possible slot. That is enough for almost every purpose.

You can add +5 to a defensive slot but imho there are two main builds:
- glass canons that forgo all defense: take offensive
- more balanced buidls that have a nice amount of Tough/Vit. Take offensive for the incremental damage increase, since you don’t die anyways with good play.

Which stat to take is also up to personal choice. I would recommend +precision to trigger more on-crit effects. In the end, that is more useful than raw damage.

Earth has two natural moons, yet we only ever see one.

Oglaf.1074:

No-ones claiming that, AFAIK.

Quite the opposite. This idea pops up like clockwork.

Fred Fargone.3127:

GW1 tactics: “Don’t ball for puppy’s sake! Spread out, don’t stand in AoE! It hurts you!”
GW2 tactics: “Don’t spread out for puppy’s sake! Ball up, stand in AoE, it’s safer that way!”
Am I the only one who thinks that is ridiculous?

We’re two. The purpose of AOE is not to deal damage but rather to control an area. Removing the AOE limit achieves two goals:
- zerging becomes far less effective because a single siege engine rips through them
- positioning becomes more important, especially in small skirmishes

Both lead to more tactical play.

Every skill is effective against an idiot. AOE is no exception, and balancing should not be done around idiots.

DayLight.9603:

I wonder if it could be that the Flame Legion enslaved the Dredge? Sometimes the Dredge doesn’t seem to be the standard type of villains and I always make a point of it to only attack Dredge that tried to attack me.

Could be the moletariate is imploding due to corruption, economic stagnation and oppression. The higher echelons of the moletariate would need an enemy and an ally to justify a war economy. An attack on the southern korea shiverpeaks seems logical. Allying with theocratic Iran flame legion could be justified with enough propaganda.

Depends on what’s in the meteor. Usually it’s just ferrite with high carbon and a bunch of radioactive isotopes. With a bit of luck it has traces of Rhodium or Platinum which could make it slightly more valuable (and slightly more cancerous)

If you want to pay 600 times the price of gold for a dirty iron jewel that gives you cancer, be my guest. The only reason people pay for it, is because it comes from out of space. Apart from that, not really special. You could make a jewel like that from household stuff (bar the cancer, that’s unique for meteors)

The only reason why meteors used to be so popular back in the iron age, was because of carbon content. It was an ore that melted into steel instead of iron. But that was 4000 years ago.

Pretty obvious actually, no debate necessary.

JakBenedict.5410:

marnick.4305:

JakBenedict.5410:

I guess everyone’s under the impression using the term “no-lifer” implies you have no life?
Just using it in the sense of no-lifing the game in a sarcastic sense. “Yeah man, I need to get a life. Haha.” Regardless, just don’t have many classes this semester, so I kill time on GW2.

Alternatives to do while you have so much free time:

> Find a job
> Study
> find a girlfriend
> find a place to live
> find a place to party
> find friends
> introduce friends, girlfriend and colleagues into gw2
> play gw2 with newfound friends, girlfriend and colleagues

Furthermore I know from first hand experience that having not many classes is usually due to failing the year before, often influenced by a videogame. I would strongly recommend breaking that habit if you eventually want to get your degree.

Don’t recall this being a “Misguidedly and Naively Try to Tell Someone How to Live” thread, so I’d go ahead and leave, my friend.

I would try and talk someone out of committing suicide. Whatever you’re doing is equivalent to committing social suicide. You’ll come to regret this. Mark my words.

Regardless, it is your choice. I respect your choice to do things that may not be in your own interest. Ignoring your plea of help is willful neglect though. It is my civil duty to warn you but whatever you do with that is entirely up to you.

If there’s one thing better in WoW than GW2, it must be synced night time. Nothing beats playing at night in WoW. Everything dark coupled with far less players to meet. Very uncanny.

And sure, the night time is more or less the same in the EU and US regions irrelevant of whether you live in Poland vs UK or San Francisco vs Key West.

Rewards for achievement break points: yes
Alternate ways to get precursors: yes
Easy 5k points to get precursor of choice: no!

Yet bashing anything that’s not a human believing in the 6 gods and crawling for the established dictatorship is just fine?

JakBenedict.5410:

I guess everyone’s under the impression using the term “no-lifer” implies you have no life?
Just using it in the sense of no-lifing the game in a sarcastic sense. “Yeah man, I need to get a life. Haha.” Regardless, just don’t have many classes this semester, so I kill time on GW2.

Alternatives to do while you have so much free time:

> Find a job
> Study
> find a girlfriend
> find a place to live
> find a place to party
> find friends
> introduce friends, girlfriend and colleagues into gw2
> play gw2 with newfound friends, girlfriend and colleagues

Furthermore I know from first hand experience that having not many classes is usually due to failing the year before, often influenced by a videogame. I would strongly recommend breaking that habit if you eventually want to get your degree.

Either DSD or Menzies

Erukk.1408:

I feel kinda conflicted about that easter egg, since any news on the mursaat is good news. They have said already that they “have really cool plans for them” a long while ago, but it kinda ruins their (or at least Lazarus’) surprise return with such obvious dark foreshadowing.

They might as well put up a sign in Lion’s Arch saying: Warning! Mursaat Inbound. Do Not Touch!

Or a big button … Triggers mursaat apocalypse. DO NOT TOUCH.

Human meat obviously.

And sync with real world time.

If you do a few dungeons you will have following dailies done on 5.03.2013:
- ascalonian events for AC
- maguuma slayer for TA
- aquatic slayer for FotM or HotW
- skill point (3 runs required though)
- group event completer

Depending on your choice of dungeon, you will have 3 or 4 done. So take your pick:
- visit the laurel vendor OMG impossible I hate walking
- craft in the mystic forge OMG I don’t want to gamble 20 vendor trash worth 20 copper in order to gain 5s and a laurel
- gather OMG I don’t want to earn money in order to earn money

Yes I see how it’s completely impossible to do the daily with dungeons …

Please explain what’s wrong with representing the guild you’re in? Either you’re a member or you’re not. If you don’t want to represent a guild, you’re motives are questionable and a kick is warranted under certain circumstances. A guild wants to achieve it’s goals. In many cases that means people either co-operate or get out.

Technically you even shared your account which is not allowed according to the EULA. There is really nothing A.net can do for you.

Back in diablo 2 there was a line in the manual that said no hardcore characters would be refunded under any circumstances including but not limited to lag, acts of god, little sisters. I remember clearly because little sisters were mentioned.

As far as customer support goes … frankly, anything they do you should applaud. They can’t be held responsible so if they help you, be happy. Be very, very happy. If no one helps you, be neutral to a.net and angry to yourself.

Michael.4791:

Not knowing the rules, will not save from punishment. No court of law accepts such an exception, why should somebody else.
You accepted the rules here. These rules are wide, so that Anet can decide. They decided. No need to talk about it now.

Live with it or suffer the consequences.

Clearly you didn’t read my post so let me be clear. I did read the rules before posting. I adhered to them by staying on topic and within legal limits as described in the rules. As such an infraction was not warranted for either case.

People have a right to appeal because rules can be applied unjustly. There are no valid consequences for my actions since they fall within the rules of the boards. Hence the appeal. No further need for you to contribute if you fail at reading the issue at hand.

Bank/bag slots. Minis. That should keep you going for a while. Apart from that not much really. Gem > gold is the most useful conversion possible.

Unspecified.9142:

From the trend it looks like the price will continue to drop for a good while yet. Probably continue dropping until a patch changes something or speculators spike the price before the next patch.

Will keep dropping until a wave of bot bans and the supply is removed.

Or ban the entire chinese subnet.

It would destroy the economy. Apart from that … win-win???