Guild Wars 2

I can see the future:

“Please nerf thieves, they lurk invis near capture points and retake the point as soon as we leave!”.

Anyways, as a thief I wasn’t bothered by other thieves doing this, found this boring to do and care not that this is changed.

Just to note that it is possible to up-convert materials via the mystic forge i.e. T5 → T6 and doing so often HALVES the cost of many of the T6 mats given that T5 are so easy to farm. I average (est.) 35 T6 materials from a stack of T5.

Yes it costs skill points but once your clovers (which will give you @10% of the mats) are done this is an effective way to reduce the costs – in fact it can be virtually free if you farm the T5 mats.

Like I’ve said, I DO think the T6 drop rate is too low BUT the current prices are more due to the volume of demand created by the lost shores event than any real supply issues.

DavidMonthen.4398:

Learn how to play the TP.

THIS is the real problem with legendary weapons – not that they are particularly hard to acquire but that they are STILL largely dependent on skill playing the trading post to make gold. Most people want to play the game itself, NOT a woefully flawed commodities exchange, but out of all my friends who play the only ones with a decent bank roles are those who actively engage in flipping, manipulating the market or successfully anticipating future trends.

One could argue that the “gift of fortune” is now in line with the name – however I always thought that this was “fortune” as in luck rather than “fortune” as in, one needs to be an in game (silver) millionaire!

The above said though – apart from in WvW which requires a MASSIVE improvement in terms of loot – it is possible to obtain all the components bar a few (lodestones/ectos) from normal play so in many ways it really does depend on how quickly you expect to obtain your legendary.

Personally though I would like to see something of an improvement in the drop rates of T6 components and lodestones/ecto’s added as a generic drop.

I’m sorry to say “no” Anet don’t have any facilities for refunds or exchanges as of yet.

I am also going to say that I am incredibly frustrated by seeing player after player with the same complaint. This issue was solved in many earlier games by the presence of a checkbox which is enabled by default filtering the items in a vendors list to only those that the player can use. Incredibly easy to code and add to the UI and SHAMEFUL that this wasn’t in the game at launch.

Even more shameful that it hasnt been added 3 months after launch…

I have to agree that they have become too expensive – the number of recipes requiring stacks of T6 materials and globs of ectos has shot through the roof, while farming strategies have been nerfed again and again.

I cant sell mine either (option doesn’t appear)

I’d really like all the endless tonics to be for trade since I would like the others…..

lordkrall.7241:

Stop standing in Lions Arch trying to find groups. Go to the actual area and finding groups should be quite easy.

I’ve done so and it is just as frustrating as standing in LA, not too mention, rather expensive to travel around doing a LFG. YES, it is still possible to get a group but the amount of time it now takes to get 5 people interested is now ridiculous.

Maybe if the game had a real LFG tool….

So I’ve managed a few dungeon runs with guildies over the last couple of days but 90-95% of lfg requests are now for fractals. PUGs for all other dungeons are now a rare beast. Yes, FoTM is new but that’s not the main reason people are fractaling mad…its the fact that there is now a new loot tier and the ONLY way to get it is one dungeon (even if that one dungeon is 9 mini dungeons).

This is incredibly bad design and with all the negatives associated with FoTM and Ascended gear one has to wonder, was this thought out fully and what exactly are Anet going to do in order to make other dungeons attractive again?

They would probably all vanish…

They are unusual and it would seem as if they are intended to be used in combination for something – it will be a huge disappointment if there isn’t something interesting involved…

On a broader front, it seems strange that there are no real uses for trophies apart from within events ~ a collections page linked to the lore would have at least made them interesting.

If there is something which drops from a gem store chest that can be bought off the TP – buy it off the TP. The terrible drop rate is one of the reasons exotic minis are valuable AND one of the reason people buy chests (hoping to get lucky).

What does it say under “Items I’ve bought”? Do you see the dusk?

As herosandwich says, Anet makes quite good scavenger hunts but apart from the sorrows furnace part I did my black moa in about 3 hours after completing the campaigns.

Personally I’m hoping for a use for all those damnable useless trophies that drop.

Interesting and thank you

Logs and ores are crashing due to the uncontrolled hack that allows for instant teleportation between nodes – one of the parts of the “bot” economy that hasn’t seen a correction yet.

You may want to add Karka shells to the list as well since technically they are a T5/T6 material and are highly undervalued at the moment and should see some interesting movement.

I think that this changes impact hasn’t been fully felt yet due to the number of people doing the events. Trust me I’m unhappy with the change as far as WvW goes since it basically destroys support healing…

It seems many people are affected by rollbacks – emergency patch?

I only lost 3 hearts worth of progress – I’m sure there are others who lost more though…

+1 Halix

I so wish that Anets producer would prioritize the tradepost and usability issues in particular. Cash is just treated as another item on the stack – if your tradepost queue is full it appears that you are no longer receiving gold from sales, but when you withdraw items from the queue it starts to appear.

90% of the threads on this forum are down to poor usability with the TP interface PLEASE Anet – take your trading post seriously, it shouldn’t be a side project.

It would be nice to see an alternative – auction house with closed (hidden) bids maybe?

I’m NOT happy with this change at all – as it is there are too many “LFM4 dungeon X lvl 80, full exotics required” calls going out, that will just be “full ascended required” next month.

There are several combinations of stats that are not available – THOSE would have been great to see in game. slightly better though just means mudflation….very unimpressed.

On second reading, I have to say that the wording of this announcement is somewhat vague.

Does this mean precursors will be addressed or the cost of legendaries in general?

I guess I should have added – can we also see an alteration in the drop rate of items involved in making legendaries? With the recent market changes the price of the gifts are absolutely ridiculous. When the other gifts cost more than the gift of fortune….I cant see that as being by design…

You can flip but it is a kitten annoying way to make money. Play the game, you’ll find money comes naturally eventually.

This is great news – I just sold the precursor that I very luckily obtained from the mystic forge via four rares (no exploit involved) since it wasn’t the one that I wanted and the grind for gold to make the gifts was driving me up the wall after the HUGE increase in costs due to bot banning.

I hope that the changes will give more people a fair shake of the stick at obtaining a legendary without seeing them become further and further out of reach with each market shift.

The RNG is often “spiky” hence people will often assume a nerf…..I certainly often wonder about the mystic forge. However I believe the price increase is for 3 reasons:

1) Fewer bots, hence fewer rares on the market AND it is harder to do the chain events in off hours (who knew so many were botting!)

2) Gem prices have risen hence pushing up the cost of salvaging. Mystic salvage kits still remain the most efficient kits to use but now cost @60c per salvage.

3) Crafting component price increase. It costs more to make a rare, hence ecto prices will rise.

I think all the factors combined herald the 25s ecto!

Its both speculation AND market demand. I recently levelled a chef for the second time – WAY more expensive this time around and needed eggs for multiple recipes (e.g. pasta, cookies, wet ingredients). Now that we cant buy anything in bulk almost any of the items of which there aren’t millions of on the TP are bound to rise in price.

The TP has been static since launch which really surprised me given how poor the UI is. I had been expecting an update so hopefully we will be seeing a raft of things to manage the economy better – power trader might be great at managing the bots and have minimal impact on your average player….

Anyone flipping crafting items though…this might be a good time to exit the market

Price just jumped up to 38c with less than 5000 left on the TP. By the time Wintersday comes along eggs will be selling for 1g each at this rate

my 2 cents. I’m not 100% happy with the RNG element but I’ve warmed to it somewhat.

What IS needed is to increase the supply of exotics as happened in the Halloween event since this lowers the price of such making mystic forge gambling somewhat more palatable.

Oh and people need to realise there is a “quick” way to make a precursor (lvl 80 exotics x 4) and a “cheap” way (lvl 70-78+ exotic x 4) and stop complaining if they took the premium route.

P.S. I got mine from 4xrares, the incredibly lucky route.

@majorkong – thanks also for suggesting the math behind this and how to calculate profitable combines, that is very interesting and should save some experimentation. I sadly rely on gut instinct a little too much.

To add to the picture, I usually lose money per combine BUT the average sale value of the “upconverted” items are such that the loss is totally mitigated. i.e. it isn’t necessary to make a profit from every combine in order to make a profit on average. Actually reading your post it sounds like you also make a loss – we’re probably competing in the same market!

Its also worth noting that the “upconvert” rate for me has averaged @16% thus your weighting may be somewhat off but then again, so may my records

Mystic forge recipies are not random, rather there is a limited range of results from a given combine. There is another post on this page where someone lays out the rules the MF follows in great detail, enough so that anyone who wished to apply themselves could understand those rules and make a profit. (Although in my case I should actually apply myself more to learning the rules of spelling I suspect)

Back on topic – OP is saying the threw in 50G worth of materials in order to make a 6G item…..BOGGLE

Look I’m not saying that RNG crafting is great but if someone walked into a poker game without knowing how to play, threw $1000 on the table, lost it all and then complained….would you have any sympathy?

Yup it is all about the average return and its quite possible to profit over the long term. Be prepared to bite into some heavy losses somedays.

I’ve made about 800g from the mystic forge if you include my precursor. Used with intellegence and restraint it doesnt have to be evil. Just throwing items in at random and hoping for a lucky roll though, yes you are going to lose money.

P.S. I should mention that luck is a factor in this, but there are ways to weigh the odds more in your favour

TBH I considered Trick or Treat bags the safer investment – people will still want the halloween tonics and with the rares coming out too these are more valuable.

I’ve been telling people to stock up now while they are cheap since they will get stupidly priced near Christmas AND they are used in over 20 recipies. That they have been so cheap for so long is the only real surprise – look at sugar pumpkins which hit over 2s and dont have anywhere near the number of recipies.

Theres a few items like this – I’ve assumed that some of them are due to flippers accidentally placing a high buy order e.g. 42s rather than 4.2s but others are deliberate manipulation. SADLY the lack of item preview on the TP is leading a great many people to spend a lot more than they have to….

Its definately an over-reaction BUT with the high drop rate on exotics from the chests (I’d estimate 30% which is the way event chests shoud be) and the potential to farm them they did need to do something. What they SHOULD have done is to have the chests drop only the Halloween exotics though not this silly nerf.

Exotic loot is fun!

Eggs.

Seriously, I looked at the sugar pumkin rush and thought, hmmmm, come Christmas, Eggnog! Further down the line, Easter, hmmm! Yes I like to think ahead.

I dont enjoy flipping but I’ve tried it and there is a lot of money to be made. I’d advise to look at margins and demand over a day on a range of goods and you’ll find theres a hell of a lot that can be flipped although there is always a risk involved since so many people are flipping now. All it takes is one person with an aggressive sell attitude to tank a line (e.g. the major rune market). Alternatively theres always the low/high daily flip although I’ve found that selling at the market high to be quite a struggle since again theres too many people flipping.

P.S. I should also add the market is going through some SERIOUS depreciation – rares have lost about 20%, exotics are crashing in price and I HIGHLY expect precursors to lose about 25% in the next few days. VERY bad time to try and enter the market and there are funner ways to make money.

I am also affected by this, I enabled the authenticator last night.

I am very unimpressed by this – not allowing email authentication to be renabled or preferably, combined since security it a tiered system and email authentication is a good first tier level of security; its just all so shoddy.

Daendur.2357:

morphemass.2850:

Daendur.2357:

seriously, what do you want? Everything is optional and can be acquired just playing the game…

As said, Halloween event weapons should NOT require more resources/cost than a legendary. I want fun; THAT is not fun.

Something with a unique cool skin should not require more (?) resources than another item with unique cool skin ? And I think that this is because you stated so, isn’t it ?

The legendary is supposed to be something for everyone to strive towards, hence why theres actually an achievment for it and part of the login screen. Halloween weapons everyone WANTS to be a bit of fun, something smaller that they can attain. As it is this is another 1% item which for an event item just isnt in the spirit of what many of us expected based on Anets past statements.

Daendur.2357:

seriously, what do you want? Everything is optional and can be acquired just playing the game…

As said, Halloween event weapons should NOT require more resources/cost than a legendary. I want fun; THAT is not fun.

Currently doors spawn for about 30s after they have been opened and then depop – this is rediculous since I have found myself running to doors only to have them disappear by the time I get there.

The doors are a nice idea but the mechanic needs some tweaking – perhaps make them spawn for 5-10 minutes and keep spitting out mobs like they did this morning before despawning so that people can gather around them and create mini-events? Its actually fun have 20-30 people gathered killing mobs

I have to say I share everyones disappointment, BUT, I hope that as long as you gather the recipe components and the temporary skins I would imagine it is quite possible to craft these weapons AFTER the event is finished. It would be nice if a dev could confirm this though.

The real issue here is with the cost of the components though. Halloween items should NOT cost more than a legendary to make which is how it stands at the moment. This is supposed to be a fun temporary even and should not be a major grind that can only be completed by a few and using 100 lodestones at 1G+ each per gift is out of the reach of 99% of the player base I would expect.

I would appeal for a quick change to this – perhaps use 10 rather than 100 lodestones which would at least put it within the reach of a greater proportion of players.

Insane increase in prices! If I was to speculate I would expect butter, sugar and eggs to go up also so stock up now?

What drives me insane about this is that there are so many posts on the topic you would have though that they would have added a hover over and help icon which explained this to players…..

Black Lion Salvage kits are under-rated – with map competion you get multiple exotics and often the runes are worth more than the armor (especially once you factor in the change to get ectos).

For me the worst item is the kill streak boosters – loose it if you need a bathroom break? No thanks!

TBH it sounds like you meant to sell it at 16s but actually ended up doing a “Sell to highest buyer”. I’ve done it on occassion and lost a lot more than 15s…

Its less an issue with the items, more that there appears to still be an issue with the trading post “losing” items. Sadly I can’t be 100% sure that my items aren’t lost somewhere in my trads since I have several hundred items on the TP BUT I’m 90% certain that they have just been lost.

As an aside, a more granular display of the time that things were posted and sold would help with this, as would being able to search through ones history.

Its also losing items that are posted for sale. They are removed from the characters inventory, but are not listed in the selling tab. There have been multiple reports of this on my servers chat.

This has gone on for far too long.

Its happened to me with jewelry but I’ve done 100 combines (none jewel) today without anything vanishing….