Guild Wars 2

Jinks.2057:

morrolan.9608:

Interesting that you call Camelot Unchained a money grab but not Shroud of the Avatar which IMHO is far more of a money grab from someone who could easily afford to fund development himself. And AFAIK Shroud of the Avatar won’t have RvR type PvP anyway.

No it should be purely open thus >>>>> WvW

Open world PvP isn’t RvR.

Jinks.2057:

jimdove.5704:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-04-11-camelot-unchained-demo-shows-500-characters-fighting-at-90-fps-on-a-2011-macbook-pro

Mark Jacobs is the head…he killed DAoC and this is only a kittened up money grab.

TES online with Matt Frior has more upside IMHO but even those fail when compared to Lord British’s new plan.

Interesting that you call Camelot Unchained a money grab but not Shroud of the Avatar which IMHO is far more of a money grab from someone who could easily afford to fund development himself. And AFAIK Shroud of the Avatar won’t have RvR type PvP anyway.

Syeria.4812:

The fact of the matter is that “unique” is a standard industry term. No one really cares whether you think it’s an accurate name or not, or if you’re even aware of it at all. That doesn’t change the fact that it is a standard industry term.

Yet many on this thread have played other mmos without coming across it.

Syeria.4812:

The fact of the matter is no one has offered a single viable alternative to the current method which exhibits efficacy and ease of use.

Yes there has been, adding a specific warning to the buy screen. It doesn’t require a separate screen. Its simple.

Jski.6180:

morrolan.9608:

1v1 still happens even in T1, a zerg of players all in ascended gear will have the clear advantage agasint a zerg with players in exotics.

And a level 10 has the advantage to a level 2 that WvW its not made to be fair.

This doesn’t make any sense. No it isn’t fair but a player can swing the odds more in his favor by getting BiS items hence it becomes a need if you want to be as good as you can. Just like a level 2 player can level up and compete on a more even playing field.

Chaosky.5276:

Hey.

Hey, devs.

Would you mind giving us a good ranged option for 1v1s?

You can spec scepter for that. I would agree though that what is badly needed is a weapon set that gives more flexibility in terms of range, especially if they aren;t going to give us an out of combat weapon swap.

Jski.6180:

If you truly think that your not “hardcore WvW player” as you put it because you should know its not about the one person its about the group in wvw. Your trying to turn WvW into a 1v1 pvp game and that will never work out in the open nature of wvw.

1v1 still happens even in T1, a zerg of players all in ascended gear will have the clear advantage agasint a zerg with players in exotics.

Hobocop.1508:

Because it takes time to come up with a good solution for the exploit and then implement it. In the meantime, a quick and dirty interim fix prevents further use of the exploit.

Yeah but then they never fix the exploit, its happened a number of times.

Some interesting ideas ni this thread, I would definitely like a weapon that has more combinations of long and short range.

Nuked.2360:

It’s cause you guys run a million mesmers right? :P

Or necro minion masters.

Hoots.9564:

The leaderboards are pointless, why would it not have a realtime score tracker. Leaderboards need a lot of work such as adding in
-Real time score tracking
-Most kills
-Highest WvW rank
-Who earned most points for server by guild
I’m sure there are a lot more things needing to be added but as it stands now, I don’t see anyone actually using this feature.

This, the current leaderboard is useless cause we already get that information elsewhere.

CorruptedSave.2570:

I get my dailies just by playing the game the way I want to.

You typically have 25 aquatic kills in a day or interrupt however many times……….

The idea that dailies are something you get from just playing the game is false, you actually have to go out of your way to complete at least part of it. It may not take long but you wont just get it purely from playing the game. Having said that I prefer the GW2 dailies to WoW or swtor.

Monthlies are different, I got my monthly already from just playing the game and without going out of my way to complete anything.

It works for me now, thanks, looks great.

Kichwas.7152:

yeah man if I don’t do my dailies I’m never going to get enough points to buy the next tier up of raiding gear and…

Oh wait…

I can just buy exotic gear at 80, and be done… and then everything else I do after that is just random fun…

Except for the fact that ascended items are the next tier.

One thing that I find interesting is that arenanet appear to have taken down those blog articles talking about the initial design of the game. The manifesto, the one on ‘fun’ being the overriding objective…………. Clearly they don’t want to be seen to be beholden to those initial design principles and another sign about how they’ve changed.

Thrumdi.9216:

Gameplay-wise, ESO and GW2 look very similar, and have equivalent “action combat” styles. Judging by the latest footage though, ESO combat looks “clunky”, and GW2 is among the smoothest I’ve ever played. Advantage GW2.

Dunno where you get that from. TESO combat looks fine to me and with the active blocking, the greater array of skills and the ability to equip any armour and weapon I think combat has the potential to be better than GW2 which has been compromised by the esports paradigm.

On my staff ele the superior sigil of battle is not giving me any stacks of might at all. Is it broken? It was working a couple of weeks ago.

Goettel.4389:

It has not become the ‘next step’ in MMO’s I hoped it would. It’s very close in places, but there’s a list of things which keeps it away from being a true classic.

Spot on, as per another thread its evolutionary not revolutionary.

Goettel.4389:

Just to add: whatever else happens, GW2 is a remarkably beautiful game, crafted with so much obvious love and skill that I feel a bit bad typing what I just did, and ANet’s success has been hard fought, and well earned. Good luck to us all !

IMHO its a beautiful game that developed with skill by the dev team but released too early, and with an ongoing live support team that clearly has different priorities than the initial dev team to the games detriment.

AggieTechGuy.4901:

Once you understand a bit more about flipping items on the TP, you should check out a spreadsheet I posted.

Your spreadsheet looks good but on Excel 2007 I get the error message: “invalid procedure call or argument”

Vayne.8563:

People can say anything they want before a game comes out. Do you remember what people were saying about Guild Wars 2 WvW before it came out?

Yes

Vayne.8563:

It’s a different song then some of them are singing now, I can assure you. Do you really think that this will be any different?

Different to what? I’ve seen people abandon games in droves after similar feedback to what GW2 has received since the infamous ascended items patch. Why I think it hasn’t happened yet is the lack of competition.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Thanks for the feedback. It will be addressed in the next update.

In a month? And why wasn’t this picked up as an issue before release anyway? It was patently obvious as soon as I saw it happening for the first time after the change that sotzz was going to be almost impossible to find unless you were incredibly lucky.

Vayne.8563:

morrolan.9608:

Plenty of people poured their passion into swtor its insulting to them to suggest anything different. As for buggy mess I’ve encountered far more bugs in GW2 than swtor and IMHO the live support for GW2 has been equally as bad as for swtor.

By the time SWToR was as old as Guild Wars 2 is now, it was already seen by most as a failure. And by most I don’t mean like a small handful of guys on the forum. I mean investors. At this point in time, they were looking for scapegoats and pointing fingers. They had laid of, I’m pretty sure it was close to half their staff.

Yeah so what, that wasn’t what I was addressing.

Vayne.8563:

Guild Wars 2, by all means, has it’s problems. Thus far, however, it’s problems aren’t as severe as SWToR experienced, quite possibly because it has no monthly fee.

Maybe like I said elsewhere if there had been more competition I think the situiation would be a lot different.

Vayne.8563:

So yeah, some people will go to those big games, but so many big games have disappointed..what makes you think those won’t also. Do you really think those new games at launch will have less bugs than Guild Wars 2 by then? I don’t think so.

Thats not actually the point, sure people may go then come back to GW2, its apparently happening to swtor with f2p, but there still would be a large drop in population for a significant portion of time that would be acted upon by anet or ncsoft and would affect how the game is regarded.

Vayne.8563:

And talking about what most of the big guilds are or aren’t doing is pointless. Because unless you’ve polled every player among them, you really have no idea. Do you know how many “big guilds” went to SWToR when it came out, only to leave a month or two later?

I’m basing it on all the feedback I see and hear from WvW players, have you polled them to discover otherwise.

MistaMike.7356:

SWTOR shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same post as GW2, much less the same sentence. Look around at all the creativity, detail and passion that went into this game. The developers here care and are very proud of their product.
Now look at the buggy piece of garbage that is SWTOR, where the development is outsourced to third-world countries that don’t even know what Star Wars is.
One is a game made by gamers, the other a game made by suits, business and marketing majors.

Plenty of people poured their passion into swtor its insulting to them to suggest anything different. As for buggy mess I’ve encountered far more bugs in GW2 than swtor and IMHO the live support for GW2 has been equally as bad as for swtor.

Mackdose.6504:

To answer the topic question:

The game is clearly doing well. After 7 months, AoC, WAR, SWTOR were basically dead, with very few people playing content on a regular basis compared to what we have now in GW2.

Difference is GW2 had the very good fortune to launch in a bubble without much competition which exists to this day. WvW for example major guilds have said they are really just biding their time until TESO and Archeage come out, then beyond that there is Camelot Unchained. For PvE there is also Wildstar as well as the above and EQ Next on the horizon.

Jski.6180:

So you want every thing at the start of the game? I mean in effect it sounds like you do not even wanted to exp grind that IS in this game from level 1-80 all be in a super easy one.

Strawman argument, levelling is not a grind. GW1 was not a grind, that is similar to what was expected in GW2 as far as obtaining max stat items goes.

Jski.6180:

Such is the world of gaming though things must changes or you will not get a big pop to play your game. If you call what GW2 has a grind then i think you would call every other game that has ever been put out has some type of grind in it too.

There are degrees, I don’t call it a massive grind but it is a grind. And the point is the game was sold to me at least partly on the basis of there being no grind for max stat items.

Shiren.9532:

Whether they are monopolised or not, is it good for the game that so many of the end game rewards are monopolised by gold which favours TP flipping, gold buying and gold farming (CoF p1 runs) instead of earned through content distributed throughout the game?

Not IMHO and its why I mentioned RMT because it looks like anet is using it as a method to get people to buy gems.

marnick.4305:

I’ve seen it and it’s still the same ideological blueprint that seems to govern all changes to the game. While it’s a blueprint, some things have been implemented differently because theory and reality unfortunately don’t always align.

However, getting max stats is still relatively easy, and the game is just as grind free as GW1.

Getting BiS ascended items is not a grind? A lot of players who felt betrayed after the introduction of ascended items were old GW1 players precisely because of the differences from GW1.

Heck even on release, prior to the karma jugs for dailies and monthlies, obtaining BiS exotic items was something of a grind, I ground out karma farming in Orr for 4 weeks to get my first Orr temple set, and getting crafting to max level was just as bad.

Yeah this has happened to me as well. Got a superior rune of the golemancer from COE that I won’t use but I can’t sell it on the TP because its soulbound.

Vayne.8563:

The one overwhelming thing that people say about the manifesto being broken is about vertical progression which is never mentioned in the manifesto at all or even implied by it. The other thing people refer to is the “grind” in the game. The manifesto was clearly talking about killing stuff to level, or not having fun things to do while you were leveling. It was talking about leveling grind.

Of course it was implied unless you’re going to claim that many many many people misinterpreted it and arenanet chose to not correct the misconceptions when they would have known 100% that buzz on the game was being built up for months and even years prior to release on the back of such interpretations.

Nice build and vid, I’m respeccing my staff ele into S/D but am going for more of a power/might stacking build.

Rising Dusk.2408:

I would sacrifice gold to the TP taxes to acquire Fused weapon skins, I would spend gems in the gem store if they were listed like Wintersday weapons, but I will not purchase keys for an RNG chance to acquire them. If I am spending my money on something, I’ll spend it on something I know I am getting.

This, as I’ve stated before IMHO this gambling box system is unethical.

John Smith.4610:

GW2 TP is awesome. Not only is it good for our game, it’s good for the industry.

Yeah well my response is that it has turned me off ingame RMT systems such that I would have to seriously consider whether I would play another game with a similar system and it has turned me off F2P or B2P games back in favour of the subscription model.

REAL.7483:

But i am against it (and i got a lot of hours lol), simply because i believe you can fulfill that need of progression people have with just skins/minipets/titles and other things that don´t imbalance the game. They just need to work on it properly…. give access to certain skin after a certain rank, reward with some minipet after certain rank, Hall of Monuments introduced in the transition from GW1 to GW2 worked like this, and lots of people got back into the game and worked on it.

Perfect solution, I agree.

Churchill.8714:

Are you able to kill the person doing it and maintain proactive scouts at your keeps?

Its pretty close to impossible to find a thief or mesmer doing it on Garrison, Hills or Bay.

I agree with the OP its pretty stupid that it should work like that.

Culling great, lag good for me, WvW progression system poor (idea good implementation poor).

Vayne.8563:

I’d say it’s more evolutionary than revolutionary. It’s helping the genre evolve. Nothing in it is really all that revolutionary but the combination of ingredients makes it at least evolutionary.

This.

ionix.9054:

You have to understand that game companies want zergs

Yet the change to orange swords was to discourage large zergs. It hasn’t of course but thats because anet rarely think through the actual player behaviour.

bradderzh.2378:

Around lvl 5-7 on a number of alts (yeah I ain’t gonna stop playing them all just because Anet wants me to)
It’s a broken system anyway. Just got to rename karma farm to Wxp farm and we are good to go.

Anet missed an incredible opportunity to reward the guys who defend those camps, buff those yaks, build oil, and all those little things that make those wooden structured turn into actual fortifications.

This, all of it. I’m lvl 5 on a no. of toons as well.

Incinerator, bifrost is one of the worst looking legendaries

rizzo.1079:

Not sure what you’re expecting, very few RPG’s over the years aren’t grind/rng based or both. If you want something without grind or rng, maybe get PS:T or something?

Most mmos have reasonable alternatives to the rng if a player is unlucky, GW2 has in some areas but not most.

Food for thought about Blizzard’s experiences with the Diablo 3 auction house given the similarities between the 2:

http://us.battle.net//d3/en/blog/8953696

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/03/28/diablo-3-director-jay-wilson-auction-houses-really-hurt-game

Svarty.8019:

Happy Easter! Greatsaw skin price triples!

A number (it could be one) of people have bought up the Greatsaw Chainsword skins. There were 20-30 yesterday and now there are 3. The price is now ~300g when it was ~150g not long ago.

I encourage anybody who wants this skin to hold off as long as possible, and especially NOT to buy it over the Easter holidays.

Honestly how can anet think this is desirable.

Tinni.4351:

Clearly Anet understands what skin collectors want better then some of its player base.

The fact that they understand the gambling mentality and base systems on getting money from it doesn’t mean its not exploitative.

And the playerbase is getting tired of the extensive RNG aspects of the game, its coming through in the feedback.

RoRo.8270:

This isn’t a p2p game anet is a business not a charity

One can operate a successful business without exploiting their customers. Its not either or, they can make money out of the gem shop by putting up skins for sale directly.

Agent Ice.6578:

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I guarantee you that more people would stay than you would think. As far as betrayal goes, many feel betrayed by the recent patches and are still here so…

Thats because of the lack of competition, anet lucked out in terms of release date. I

Fizzlepip.5218:

Niim.9260:

This would require thought and effort. The WXP system was done with the bare minimum of thought and effort.

Many times this.

Seems to be a recurring problem, doesn’t it?

They just clearly don’t have the resources, to provide the support WvW needs.

Just the opposite skill lag has improved a lot for me with the removal of culling. Its one thing anet have done right with this patch.

pricer.5091:

You don’t have to buy the keys, it is not compulsory. Yesterday, on release, I bought 10 keys (and that was my limit), which with the keys that dropped from the boxes themselves, enabled me to open 14 chests. I didn’t get a ticket. Meh, I thought and carried on grinding the mats for Volcanus which I am currently working on.

Today, a BL key dropped from a mob in Cursed Shore, I opened a box and I got a ticket.

Yes because key drops are so frequent <sarcasm>

I have not had a key drop in at least 5 months.

jkctmc.8754:

You champion thier choices like other failed MMOs, like Age of Conan, wher epeople also didn’t hold the devs accountable, and the game died. Do you want that to happen to GW2?

I reckon you need to take a look at my posting history. IMHO the progression system is poor.