Guild Wars 2

Dont think Mordy can handle a sturdy bearbow

Sylent.3165:

Daendur.2357:

How can you do a full set of ascended items for a class you don’t even know how it is (i mean final balance).
Don’t you want to test it? I mean, and if you’ll need more of a stat than another? You’ll trash ascended items?

I already made my full set of ascended valkyrie armor, zerker shield and sword, and have everything else set. I think valkyrie should stay very good no matter what if I can always manage my fury upkeep

If one runs a power build for pve its always good to go full zerker as thatll give u the highest dmg possible. Any extra staat like toughness or vit can be achieved by swapping amu trink rings back, also since its less costly. Zerk will never be gone as most optimal gear for power builds, i dont see how itll change that much for raids either now that we have different roles to fill and support each other.

Gaaroth.2567:

Fact is sword#5 was designed to be a “pick target” skill.
You are attacking in melee and in order to burst down someone you pull it off from the group.
The idea is original and unique, it just needs fixing. If you want a gap closer you can pick axe ;-)

This makes sense, idk if the current sword #5 was just a bit akward to use

Edit: with my proposal it would still see the same function though as u are pulling someone away, instead.of having to.walk up to someone which may not be beneficial in a big fight

Yeah cuz currently sword sword would see little use. Maybe even make it so that sword #5 works like an interrupt when pulling target towards u, cancelling their action if they were casting/channeling

Currently sword #5 is a pull backwards teleport IF u manage to get to the moving target, which may not be situational to use. Wouldn’t it be more beneficial if sword #5 instead was a 600 range pull to you with a 15-20 sec cd, as a more logical gap closer? Maybe this has been bought up before, it’s just that the current sword #5 would see less use in a PvP setting.

I had a footage of me being in downstate for nearly 30 sec on our homepoint where enemy mesmer had used all his cds n was rly low after a 1v1. He tried to down me but i rotated my downstate rupt + pet swaps n their taunt kd fear inbetween self res from pet and eventually i downed him n won He was so infuriated haha.. thats a word right

I see OP made this same thread in dragonhunter land, trying to reap some votes there as well.

Enrif.7359:

nacario.9417:

I get it that we all want different things but it’s surprising that the people who wants this glowing wrist change isnt bothered with the herald ground icon, which stands out by far more :p

The ground icon can be shut off with not using a facet. there is an option. thats the huge difference

It’s not really an option though since the point with glint is to run with one or two facets active, like swiftness for roaming or fury/prot/might as support. If you have glint you’ll spend the majority of your time with the ground icon graphic.

I joined a f50 metazerk on my PS warr, everything optimized but was running rifle. I did pretty well, didnt die n kept that might up, while a thief kept dying which was ok as he didnt have the best support from us. On the last frac boss with that green monster (cant rememb name) i had to rifle the tendrils n thief goes angry cuz rifle wasnt metazerk as advertised. But we finished in 45 mins time

I get it that we all want different things but it’s surprising that the people who wants this glowing wrist change isnt bothered with the herald ground icon, which stands out by far more :p

Wandelaar.3746:

I’m not concluding that it’s too strong based solely on cherry picked footage, but on the personal experience I got from the class. (angz)

Im sorry wand but ull lose some credibility here. Angz have vast differences in skilled players, having played there for months myself, and that screen tells us nothing. I also dont understand why u call rev too strong by using the 4v1 an example in ur official feedback thread, when they clearly were as unorganized and clueless as one can be.
I played rev myself this weekend with ur build having followed u from previous weekends. Im not gonna boast of my skill but I lost 1v1s vs those who were quickly to pick up my playstyle. Point is it is better to give it some time in live before giving judgements. Ofc we cant do anything with the qqing noobs around here, but lets not help by feeding them that sugar.

It was an entertaining watch though!

Zera.8907:

Leaving this here for the laughs…..

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Is-Revenant-supposed-to-1v4-other-classes/first#post5589025

Where his opponents of equal skill? I havent seen it cuz im on my smartphone but this reeks ppl being clueless, 4 berserkers vs 1.

I just want the awesome looking pants which makes it look like u have a cape

For functional use id go with a mortar or flamethrower engi to tag mobs n get the most exp out of events since we want fast mastery xp. But tempted to try a rev just to get a full new experience, havent even played the beta maps.

The time spent for world bosses r better used for a daily f50 run, or work ur way up to 50. The asc items u could get r needed for salvaging to get the new legendary mat. Its also nice to build up frac relics as fotm is getting updates. It’s more than fine to just do one teq run a day.

Troll unguent is a strong heal, other classes should be jealous of not having such a nice heal over time, esp cuz u can use it while ur hp is high and itll maintain ur hp during pressure. With the trait itll be 20 sec cd and remove 2 condis, and with 4 survival skills we have good condi removal. By the time the heal is over theres little downtime till u can pop it again.

Pew pew rangers depending on build should have their role/use both in team and 1v1. I think theres more to discover here but dont see to much of it yet in higher tier teams.

Bcuz theyll make a lot of dough in gemstore by doing this while still lookin pretty in the act. People use trans stones quite often. We already make an ok chunk of it from free daily rewards, gotta give em something bk

I was deadset on big male charr for its ferocity n beastyness when swinging that hammer n slamming the ground. But then i got worried what if the new legendary armor looks kittene on charr, as many armors tend to, it was a more safe bet to go human afterall.

Mastruq.2463:

Carighan.6758:

Because that is totally possible and won’t backfire at all, as WildStar tried to prove. Right? Right?

I often see Wildstar mentioned in the raid debate – honest question, is it really relevant? Everyone I know didnt care for that game for several reasons long before even reaching the cap and raids. For me and those I know it had already failed and we left before we could judge how their “hardcore raids” stance plays out.

The way wildstar implemented raids was so thst it could only be reached by a few players. At least here we can raid from the get go

Reducing the heal ticks to replace it with pulsing condi removal will be a huge buff, also since its just on a 20 sec cd.

atreyu.9624:

Press one button, Stack quite a bunch of might, kitten high dmg… all while evading.

That is one hell of a balanced skill if you ask me.

Such insight!

uhohhotdog.3598:

Maybe you should play ranked instead of unranked.

Ranked or unranked itll be the same story at one point. We’re beating a long known dead horse only Anet can ressurect with a fix.

If I make a rev through tomes till 80, can i use the HP to instantly purchase the elite spec Herald? I could then just buy herald and shiro straight up and leave ventari and jalis in the dust, at least for a good while

Astralporing.1957:

nacario.9417:

Raids are like higher tier pvp, everyone has a shot at it if they make a group and progress. Theres no stat hinderance between higher tiered and low, ascended is the final stat that isnt surpassed by legendary. This game offers vast content types and now finally something to work for, something this game needs to peak interest, while not being the sole focus and doesnt exclude players since we are all on the same stat field. Kids and grownups are easily spoiled.

Except we aren’t on the same stat field. So in that way it is highly unlike PvP. sPvP is all about skill, while raids seem to put greater emphasis on gear.

And gear is easily obtainable by all! Do you want gear thrown at you for free? This mmorpg must be the one that makes this the easiest, for instance I and others have easily made sets of ascended by just doing daily tequatl, guild missions, laurels from dailies and fractals. They all provide means that doesnt require gold. One simply cant complain unless you want stuff without the slightest effort. One can even compete with an ascended weapon and rest exotics. What it comes down to is player skill and build, not the gear stats as one is used with in other mmorpgs, where it is much more time consuming and frustrating to get.

And when raiders are rewarded with legendaries they still arnt better stat wise, it’s just cosmetics and quality of life. What are people so afraid of?

Misguided.5139:

There were some good suggestions regarding ways to balance UA a bit for 1v1 after BWE2 without gutting the skill for PvE use, like having a damage spike at the end of the skill that would hit the main target. So far, at least, they have chosen not to implement any of those. With the number of complaints about it, though, I have to think it is at least on the radar.

But by looking at their reasoning behind the complaints theres no hold to it. Its standard qq by people who got mad ingame cuz clueless and then they turn to the forums filled with baseless accusations. This has proven to be the case countless of times, hundred blades and rapid fire qq being clear examples.

Kungi.3645:

Revenant is way too op atm..If you think its normal to just run around and 1 shot ppl then your not an true player. End of story.

But thats the point of beta test,we can all hope devs will see it and adjust it.
Otherwise Gw2 will be P2W game and im not gonna waste my time and money on that kind of game.

Rev nor any class cant one shot. Judging by that comment and ur posting history it’s hard to give you any credibility. And here I am weeding you out

Raids are like higher tier pvp, everyone has a shot at it if they make a group and progress. Theres no stat hinderance between higher tiered and low, ascended is the final stat that isnt surpassed by legendary. This game offers vast content types and now finally something to work for, something this game needs to peak interest, while not being the sole focus and doesnt exclude players since we are all on the same stat field. Kids and grownups are easily spoiled.

Balance never is and is always an ongoing effort. What is right for you is subjective and can only be answered by you. This can be done by playing said classes and test for yourself. Happy travels.

Rain.9213:

Iavra.8510:

I just think Infuse Light (Glint heal) needs a cast time or at least a very obvious effect on the Revenant. The sheer number of icons (facets + F2 boon burst) make it hard to see when compared to warrior’s stance.

I think that would make the heal bad though just like the warrior’s haha.

The problem for me is not the glint heal. I think that works just fine especially considering Revenant’s have poor condi defense.

I think the problem is the just the ridiculous pressure I can put on an enemy.

Sure dodge, UA. But now I can land Staff 5 or swap legends and land an aoe basilisk venom. I don’t think we should hit like wet noodles but 3.5 base power which will almost always crit with 94% crit chance? That’s a little too much.

But when u land the shiro elite u also burn alot of energy, pluss that elite is easily dodgable cuz of the green goo stuff. Every class should have stuff to counter stuff, it’s a game of cooldowns afterall. Not everyone runs staff either. Give it a rest and see how it all pans out once ppl start learning mechanics, since there r already competent players who can deal with it already. It’s the same old rapid fire qq over again.

People are being unpleasant here :o While the guy has room for improvement, which can be said for me as well also playing rev this first weekend, it was entertaining none the less to watch.

That was a great watch haha

Its really this simple, if u hit the rev when his infused light is up, u will end up losing the fight. Fights get prolonged cuz ppl dont know how to fight em, and as fights prolong u eat more UA as revs potentially can build for lots of sustained healing ontop of 2 legend heals. I spent a good chunk of time on dueling servers and those who claimed rev op where the ones falling for its mechanic.

I did 1 spvp match and some dueling as MM/BM/Druid longbow/staff with marauder amu. I found some great synergies between the trait that adds daze on staff swap with moment of clarity, and the grandmaster druid trait that roots target when after it’s cced, which is good after a longbow kd (though it could use some more responsiveness, the root applies to slow).

Overall pleasantly surprised that healing is quite strong on staff/CA form when on a marauder amu (Power). One can put up some crazy cc chains with the daze traits. It certainly adds a little more survivability for those o snap scenarios, where you can withdraw and recover in CA, to return to the fight. This was with utilities lightning reflexes, the daze glyph, the knocback glyph, and the stab elite. Stab elite was cruicial for the CA form since otherwise you get easily cced in it. The troll heal is still quite strong even without trait.

Staff 4 is a bit wonky to land in a 1v1, and its reward root is to short. Smokescale may be the New wolf, but overall the pets werent as responsive/better than what we currently have. Still would probl prefer Wolf/bird.

My feedback as shiro/glint, mainly from PvP:

- Sword AA nr 2 could make our life much easier if it wasnt a projectile, but a melee attack for reasons already stated. In general the sword AA’s animations would also look nicer with some tweaking, tho purely subjective (less stabby, but more swings to the sides like a sword not a dagger).

- Sword skill 2 also makes little sense, theres no situation where one would really benefit of using a 450 range attack, mediocre damage, just to apply some chill, and that energy is better spent on other skills. What if it was changed with 2 or 3 seconds of fury/quickness to support Sword 3. Not the best idea but it’s something.

- The herald ground icon graphic is really annoying during fights, at least for me, it’s unneeded info that doesnt really provide anything. It could also be a bit disturbing when jumping on tiny ledges etc. Maybe tone down/remove the center graphic and keep the outer circle? In any event it just draws to much focus on the graphic on ground, when we’d rather look at whats in front of us.

- Sounds on legend swapping could also be tweaked, Glints grumpy ladygrowl sounds a bit odd. Add short sentences maybe.

I really hope Roy manages to squeeze some time into evaluating the ground effects, it’s really breaking it for several.

Once you get enough exp with it you’ll get a feel for how many or how often u should/could use abilities vs energy, thats pretty much it

UA is basically the same as the rapid fire change that caused a lot of QQ, it’s new for people where some chose to scream

I liked the music

Angier.1047:

Hey Roy,

please consider limiting the hand glow to being in combat / having weapons drawn. It’s a bit much while standing idly around and with weapons sheathed. No other class follows this logic and it would dramatically improve the feeling of the Revenant when he charges into battle.

Or more importantly, consider toning down the herald ground icon below ur chars feet. Keep the outer circle or remove them, but please look at the center glow for adjustments. Currently its more of a graphical hinderance for many.

But u guys got an extra dodge! U go do a funny spin while i go bk into my celestial avatar

It’s important to stick to the qq manual when all senses are lost: everything else but the build ur using is op. Everything else can deal massive dmg cc n is tanky.

If u do daily fractal 50 and tequatl ull get ur ascended.. or most of it then u can cheaply alter stats to ur liking in the forge

nacario.9417:

Personally I find this center icon with additional icons on the side based on your active utilities, to be excessive “fluff” and unneeded info/graphic. Everything we need to know is indicated on our action bar and boon bar, and we already have nice visuals upon legend swapping and on our action bar. It feels odd having a large circle with pulsing color below our character (and potentially not fitting with our armor for those who Skin Wars 2), with additional icons that are barely visible when zoomed out. It takes away the focus from your character.

My proposal is to tone the colors down on the center icon, maybe keep the outer circle but remove the center mass – and potentially remove the additional icons that pops up based on active utilities.
But more importantly, what is your thought on the matter?

Ah apologize, I didnt see it.. a mod could just merge this one with that I suppose

Demented Yak.6105:

By the way, your charr looks incredibly hot with that juggernaut.

Yeah I finally got to use it :P

I am a little surprised there hasnt been more comments about the Herald ground icons, but maybe people like it/them. If you are unaware/dont know what Im talking about I left an image where you can see the said icon(s) below the character.

Personally I find this center icon with additional icons on the side based on your active utilities, to be excessive “fluff” and unneeded info/graphic. Everything we need to know is indicated on our action bar and boon bar, and we already have nice visuals upon legend swapping and on our action bar. It feels odd having a large circle with pulsing color below our character (and potentially not fitting with our armor for those who Skin Wars 2), with additional icons that are barely visible when zoomed out. It takes away the focus from your character.

My proposal is to tone the colors down on the center icon, maybe keep the outer circle but remove the center mass – and potentially remove the additional icons that pops up based on active utilities.
But more importantly, what is your thought on the matter?

panda the chop chop.4712:

killing people is WAY to easy, I can use sword 3 on a person not in hit range, I don’t feel any risk/reward, Stacking might is way to easy, I barely need to dodge, it feels wrong to be this easy…

I really wonder what your point is with this thread, there is basically nothing constructive that indicates why it is easy. Sword 3 doesnt do that much damage, nor does it kill a target on its own, and has a 12 sec cd, some risk is there as you go up in melee susceptive to take hits as your evasion ends. Many other classes can stack might easily, but it doesnt kill on its own. I wonder which NPC you were fighting since you “barely need to dodge”. Lets just hope the less informed that visit these forums dont take this seriously.

Take this as a simplistic feedback from a healing pov, maybe in a pve raid setting: What boggles me a bit is that a staff ele (also tempest) could provide enough heals but over a larger area while also doing other stuff like damage a raid boss and provide boons like 40% prot and might. A druid has his healing bursts in CA but is it really needed, and it only provides heals and some condi cleanse, over shorter time and area. Why take a druid that only does that at best, when class x could do more things at the same time, which is of benefit to overcome an encounter faster. I dont like to compare classes I just wanted to mention the functionality from a narrow perspective. Hopefully Im wrong.

As for a pvp pov CA form is a great recovery tool to heal up on any marauder amu build, can also be useful onpoint with our shout elite. It adds a new mechanism to power builds, like lb staff, and makes us able to give up the previously mandatory WS line.

Standard qq post with lack of insight. Every class has something that is strong, especially if u fight against it clueless. This is where the road splits up and some try to understand workarounds while others give up. If you dont lower your pressure against IL youll make it OP. And revs arnt that strong vs condi compared to other classes but u forgot to leave that part out.

Id say its worse for sylvari males

With the right sweetfx preset u can have darker nights