Guild Wars 2

y’all are aware that you can press a kit keybind (q for medkit, for example), and regardless of kit state (equipped or stowed) and receive the KR proc, right? this means that it doesn’t matter when you hit the kit keybind, so every 20 seconds you can just activate whatever kit for the KR proc. it works like on swap sigils.

so what’s all the kittening about with omg I have to micromanage when I hit my key kitten about?

at worst, you have to count to 20 (or 10 twice if you cannot see your toes), and then get any proc you want.

google.3709:

;) Could be anytime! js and it could be just for fun! I always enjoy fighting good engineers! and would appreciate to learn how the FT should be used. i’ll be waiting

im totally down, I want to get beat up by Maska too.

my play time is limited, but add me, and if im on let’s rumble.

truth be told, I consider myself an “average” player because I just can’t commit the time like I want to. im always down to cleanse your sins with fire though.

(( also, im at work on a mobile, and trying to type patiently on a touch screen is more taxing than trying to make the argument polite is worth. ))

well, then, kitten you all because I use the ft exclusively in pvp, always have, and will continue to do so.

no skin off my back you can’t cut it; more fodder for my flames.

I hate repeating myself, but since you all sound like a broken record, I might as well:

food for thieves and warriors? LOL. l2p.
no control? LOL. l2p.
no damage? LOL. l2p.

your 10 minutes of being eaten alive by better players than you while you experiment with a spec you are unfamiliar with does not make the spec broken.

Nerf to FT2? LOL. You all KNEW it was a bug, and relied on it anyways. l2p.
- me, my dps has gone up because im no longer cherry picking when to use it, I blow things up as often as possible.

the bug existed for all of one month and you kittens are all “mewl mewl” how will I ever make it now!

LOL.

once again, my build saw only buffs and bug fixes (ft/rifle, net turret). The eg saw major rework and improvement. turrets saw buffs and fixes all around.

why are mmo so different from other games? you are entitled to nothing but the privilege of playing the game the devs provide for you. you are entitled to give feedback, but stop acting like you are entitled to everything you want.

it’s like joining a club; you go when the club meets and do what the club does because that’s how it works. you make suggestions, but ultimately, you leav when it no longer suits your interests. the club doesn’t have to cater to you, but it tries.

there are, by my count, more than seven commonly discussed builds effective in a variety of situations, and this patch just added one more while buffing almost everything we have.

the KR saw alteration, not a nerf. you can still swap kits freely, you can still pull off chain combos, blah blah blah.

maybe farmville or any of its knock-offs might be more your speed.

I think 14 years of big ticket mmos ought to have taught you not to use gimmicky. specs that reply on one quirky trait effect.

how is the op nostradomus? none of what he said flies in my book. im having fun, six to all the gimmick build players that have to relearn how to play the real game that everyone else is already familiar with.

welcome to gw2!

Lupanic.6502:

what does this means :

Automated Response trait: Grants immunity to conditions when the inflictor has over 100% duration.

example, a scepter wielding necro can get 133% bleed duration.

I just rocked niflhel with my ft/net turret combo. held down graveyard the whole match. another ft turret engie joined me. between the two of us, nothing could even neut the point. so much cc with two rifles, two net turrets, and two fts.

hahahaa.

edit PS: the increase to Revealed timer is also super awesome for tracking thieves.

no…

As your future Grand Sovereign, I advise you to steer clear of the infestation that is the irascible Inquest insurgency!

The pilfering polyglots want to ride of the coat tails of devastation predicted by my INFINITY BALL and bring and end before the beginning of the future that is the Asura Ascendency!

my asura thief is named Pippen Longpockets.

kito.1827:

Rerroll.9083:

Soon

15 chars.

can someone please explain this 15-chars-thing to me?
srsly

thanks in advice

4srsly?

/15char

timidobserver.7925:

google.3709:

During the past few days, I’ve been hardcore farming glory to reach my next tier.. and everyday I’ve noticed more and more engineers playing to the point where its not uncommon to have 4-5 engi’s on the same map, whats funnier is that i’m currently playing a new build i created which uses FT and some players ask me about the build while others go and make their hole version! and now, every map i join i see clones of me running around! funny how this has turn out but lets keep it up on sPvP!

PS: Personally, I’m more afraid of engi now than to fight mesmers! and im sure most everyone is starting to feel the same way!! are we the new mesmer? lol

I’ll take any build of engineer over a mesmer any day.

me too.

/15char

the point is, between weapon set, kit abilities, toolbelt skills, and utility skills, engineers are not hurting for things to do during combat.

frankly, i think the argument that kits taking up a utility skill is detrimental because it somehow “negates” the utility of that slot is ridiculous.

one slot turns in to five when you press it. and you can switch back without penalty at any time, even in to another slot for another five abilities. or use a kit in combination with other skills for combo chains and effects.

you want another weapon to have to micromanage? why?

the core issue is the impression that you are not doing enough dps or enough whatever to feel like you are powerful. that is what it boils down to, you play games to kick kitten and take names, and when you feel like your game is stopping you from doing that, you kitten here on the forums.

this class is designed in such a way that being able to bring lots to the table involves a great deal of micromanagement between kits and skills. that is how the class works.

if you want two weapon sets and five utility skills, go play a class with that kind of mechanic. the engineer is not that class.

timidobserver.7925:

Well I give him credit. Unlike in the state of the game video, this guy actually seems like he knows what he is talking about, like he has actually seen an engineer before, and like he isn’t high.

um, that is jsharp, he WAS in the last sotg.

luckywaldo.6089:

Phineas Poe.3018:

luckywaldo.6089:

Phineas Poe.3018:

Kalan.9705:

Hrmm Phineas, there is no difference between any class swapping it’s skills or weapons once they leave combat, and an engineer swapping it’s kits=once the engineer leaves combat.

wat.

I think he means that other classes can carry any or all weapons in their inventory, and chose two depending on the situation.

So a guardian can do GS+Hammer, and carry around a scepter for those times that he needs something ranged.

I knew what he meant. And that’s precisely what I do on my Guardian and Engineer. On my Engi I carry three pistols with me, one with Bloodlust, one with Strength, and one with Force. I also carry two Rifles with me, one with Battle and another with Bloodlust.

But I was talking about while in combat. And in combat the Engineer has plenty more options available than any other class if using kits. We are designed to swap in and out of our kits and weapons, which is why the devs say that we pay a cost for that versatility—because if our Rifle or Pistol was powerful enough to stand alone on its own, on top of the added utility of kits, we would be overpowered.

Talking about swapping weapons outside of combat is totally irrelevant and a pretty hysterical rebuttal to my point.

The part of my post that you cut off said basically just that. You can match a combination of a weapon with any 3 kits, at the cost of your utilities.

except that the toolbelt and toolkit replaces the lost utilities (and yes, im aware that some toolbelt skills aren’t as strong as they ought to be), without a swap penalty.

their internal testing?

you mean with drone one reads the forums and listens to in game pms before implementing “necessary” balance fixes?

Kaleban.9834:

Zinwrath.2049:

But, if ya got nothing better to do but write sensationalist posts filled with paranoia and anti-arenanet hate…by all means.

I LOL’d. You obviously failed to comprehend what I was posting, or didn’t bother to read it because it was too long.

If calling out ANet for its poor balance performance across TWO MMOs, then offering constructive ways to avoid ham fisted nerfing is sensationalist paranoia, then I don’t know what you want. Should I just take the blue pill?

you could just stop talking.

told you so…..

the s stands for structured, not small.

your theory pleases me, since i use rifle, ft, net turret, and rocket boots.

okay new guy. thanks for the tips. go back to the thief forum.

the meta is revolved around warriors, in so far as warriors are considered the control class from which the devs balance other classes. that would make it very integral the the meta.

I’ve gradually become an FT roamer, running around looking for lone wolves to cull. The FT is a fantastic attrition weapon that makes roamers wish they were in . a . zerg.

Ya, it is a slow kill. But I like watching things burn. Especially Norn (charr not so much, burning hair smells bad) because their fat sizzles like an immobilized siamoth at a spit roast.

I’ve been messing about a bit by replacing EP with AP turrets so that my net turret and supply drop have extra umph, but I think EP is better over all. I’ve also made the full switch from str to battle sigils for the WvW scene (I still use STR in spvp).

net shot, toolbelt, air blast, net turret and supply crate have a lot of cc, so the whole idea is to chase and make your foe hate you. it works wonders.

I realize all that, I was just adding some info for the uninitiated.

That said, I don’t think that immunity to condi’s actually solves any problems, since it doesn’t change anything except when condi’s can be applied.

edit title to say “!=” instead of “=” plxkthx

you have to be next to the target to receive the condi removal as part of an aoe from the foe. it isn’t the wrench that causes it.

Oareo.1604:

I would like to see a new boon introduced that made you immune to incoming conditions. Existing conditions would functional as normal, only that new ones wouldn’t land.

It would give a whole new way to deal with conditions, rather than yet another cleanse. It would be skill based, as timing the use/uptime of the boon can greatly swing fights. It would also be more fun for the condition giver. He knows if he lands them, they will stick…so he focuses on landing rather than spamming to outpace cleansing.

that is the Autoimmune Defense System (or whatever), 30pt Alchemy engineer trait.

immune to all conditions below 25% hp. all existing condis remain.

no one that i know uses it.

thanks, tips.

my point is that this is the only media where the consumers are willing to accept that.

semantics, the scapegoat of undergraduates without the erudition to reconcile cultural context and literal definition.

for the record, I am a hotjoin player who knows he is going to newb it up if he ever gets time to dedicate to tpvp.

I never claimed that dialogue was unnecessary, but that someone who has never done something is likely not the best resource for a creative discussion on improvements. rather, and i thought this obvious enough not to state, the reasons having kept them away is their sphere of aptitude, to return to my previous lexicon. in that regard, the OP is correct.

the reason trolls thrive is because they push buttons that have equal weight in opposing directions. mixed meta fors the win.

the irony of having purchased an incomplete product

I think you need to brush up on the difference between allegory and analogy.

sentiment and context often carry much more meaning than words, which is to say that comparing the aptitude and influence of hotjoin to tourneys is no different than comparing the aptitude and influence of pve to pvp.

ehh hey, ooh, you want we should white wash the walls so as to gentrify the mystic forge area too?

no, you learn to lead your shots. it’s no secret that max range nades are slow. you use the cc of the chills and other skills to control your foe, and toss your nades on them. up close, fast cast trumps point and click because you actually can strafe while throwing nades just fine. this is like the keybind vs click activation debate.

i was just clarifying the info about the necro mask above

Zaxares

Asura Necromancers can pick a Wraith mask at character creation that gives them a pure white (with slight greenish tinge) glow to their eyes.

with

nakoda

the color of the glow is dependent upon your choice of eye color (some don’t glow, some glow lots). the color and glow change after creation slightly (some dim, some illuminate).

Phantaram.1265:

nakoda.4213:

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

I’d say owning your own server in a video game, at least in most of the games that is featured in, is not free.

having a dedicated computer for hosting custom servers = 4-8—$
having the knowledge to build computers = 40k for school, or a good 2 years of practice.
having some other company to configure a .sys file for you = 15$/month

hosting your own games using readily available custom server software available by many of the highest population longest lasting games in PC online competitive history = free.

No, custom servers do not cost money. Many games release server software for free to promote their game being played more by providing the coding infrastructure to people with the savvy to host it on their own hardware, eliminating both time and resources from the developer’s plate because their gaming community is willing to spread the joy and promote the game themselves.

I cannot think of a single title I have played in the last ten years where custom matchmaking cost extra money. I would be happy if you could point some out for me. All the big ticket titles I have in mind, PC and console, all allow players to do their own match making.

I can see people paying for TS or Ventrilo or whatever, but not to play the kitten game.

The mmo industry specifically has brainwashed players over the last decade in to thinking that people should actually be willing to pay for unfinished products.

That makes you a victim.

in fact, trying to go BACK to manual targetting is just weird.

almost as weird as trying to go from inverted look to that backwards kitten kids use these days because good flight sims don’t exist any more.

I would not be willing to pay to do something games have been doing for free for decades.

the reason I chose to settle on gw2 is that I am also not willing to pay sub fees for unfinished products any more.

Shadowkx.2738:

hmm seems many of you just don’t get it. Cater to the average masses and you get the best return. Cater to the 1% and your potential return is tiny. The game has to be fun for the casual player so that you can convert them to hardcore players. Once the casual group is gone then the game is dead. I have play enough FPS to have seen this happen many times. If the developer fixes what the hardcore players say is a problem but the casual say otherwise pretty soon the casuals are gone. Hardcore players lurk in every causal player but the has to be fun to hook them.

@ those who think mastery is the reward you are in the wrong game. Please go take up competitive chess. Hundreds of years of study, thousands of books and millions of players. Chess will be here in 10 years. GW2 most likely will not, more then likely GW3 will have replaced it.

okay look, IF the thread were about X dev hours spent working on Y part of the game, then all of these economic analogies would be useful.

but it isn’t, so they aren’t.

Davinci’s post is not about “catering” to anyone, it is about spheres of influence and spheres of aptitude.

my friend, a lawyer, put it best to me once:

If your sink is leaking, call a plumber.
If your car is broken, call a mechanic.
If you’re gonna die, for kitten’s sake call a lawyer and don’t buy a legal will kit.

The point of this anecdote is that each portion of this game has its own sphere of influence, pve, wvw, spvp, tpvp, crafting, even between and within professions, to name just a few.

Davinci’s point, regardless of agreeance or delivery, is that someone who farms materials to craft from open world and dungeons (a plumber) is not as likely to be as informative about eve as a commander.

Ergo, within pvp, hotjoin, solo queue, spvp, and tpvp all have different spheres of aptitude and influence.

anyone reading more in to it than that is just biting the troll bait.

necro mask.

the color of the glow is dependent upon your choice of eye color (some don’t glow, some glow lots). the color and glow change after creation slightly (some dim, some illuminate).

Braxxus.2904:

forrae.6708:

balance for the pros/top 1%/whatever and the balance trickles down for everyone else.

simple.

Trickle down economics has never worked, does not work, and will not ever work.
It’s a myth, no it’s just a blatant lie, that some people have been suckered into believing.
In the end all you’ll be left with is that 1% player base as the other 99% say kitten this and leave. Then the 1% can complain about how there’s no population.

this is a video game. not a real world economy.

if paper > rock > scissors > paper for the 1%‘ers, then paper > rock > scissors > paper for the 99%’ers too.

if the 1%‘ers say, hey, something isn’t right, all of a sudden rock > paper, then the devs need to listen.

if the 99%‘ers say “amg rawk broked my papur!!” the devs do not need to listen, ESPECIALLY when the 1%’ers are like “wut?”

anyone having pve problems on any profession needs to practice before preaching on the forums about what works and what does not work.

edit: this has nothing to do with being casual or being hardcore, just about being skilled. there is not one profession in this game that cannot complete the single player story line, irrespective of traits.

I am with punkins on this one. PLEASE do not change the class. fix some bugs, buff some skills, tweak some numbers, the rest is good.

if the functionality of any part of this class changed fundamentally, i would reroll.

in capitalist society, single white men have the most upward mobility on the social scale, despite being an acute minority.

minority report: single white males are the “largest” minority and still have the most social clout.

catqeer.1954:

nakoda.4213:

catqeer.1954:

Your mother’s IQ is so low she thought Divinity’s Reach was how far a divine being can reach.

Your mother’s IQ is so low she thought tengu meant ten goos.

But in all seriousness your mother is rather intelligent after all so are most asura…

Your mother’s IQ is so low she clearly taught you that humility is better than bravado, intelligence, poise, atavistic eloquence, and sheer good looks.

She was wrong.

The young woman selling cookies in Lion’s Arch has a higher IQ than your mother.

Your mother’s IQ is so low she agreed to a longterm agreements in the hopes of producing children’s with the dumbest male asura in all of Rata Sum. Also known as your father.

I will not tolerate my mother being compared to a merchant in Lion’s Arch… Disgusting seriously have you no shame.

MY father invented duostream intertial conversion dampening coil mechanics before he left 4th level progeny school. That “longterm agreement” is commonly known as a marriage license, which was subsidized by the royalties from the use of duostream inertial conversion dampening coils which are used in practically every self propelled device made in the last 50 years. He is currently lead kreweman of StreamCoil Technologies.

Where is your father? Oh, yes, you are looking at him. Professor Emeritus of the College of Synergetics, inventor of the acclaimed INFINITY BALL which foretold the future of Asuran ascendance, junior executive for the school for the blind and philanthropist extraordinaire.

Ask your mother, she’ll tell you all about me.

Killyox.3950:

GuilguiS.2738:

You say that because Flame Jet isn’t very strong right now. If you could get more burns from it you would like to keep your enemy within range of your flames.

Problem is that Flame Jet and Flame Blast don’t get along too well

they dont? how so?

aside from 100 nades, most engie builds tend to be shy on power, so just about all of them benefit from might stacking in one way or another to allow us to gear for the more beneficial stat for respective builds.

the 6pc bonus would be super handy in a smaller roaming group, actually. and toughness never hurts.

that’s actually why i take it in spvp, for the toughness to tack on wiht the rampager ammy. the buff to burn and prot duration are just icing on the cake and synergize well with protection injection (and of course every attack that burns, including the 6pc bonus).

in spvp they are free.

pve/wvw are different. I would use 2x Lyssa, 2x Water, 2x Monk in pve/wvw, or 6pc Engineer.

edit: this is because gear is different in pve with stats and more trinket options etc.

FT sPVP Build

20/30/0/20/0

incendiary powder, enhanced performance
precise sights, fireforged trigger, juggernaut
protection injection, deadly mixture.

rifle, medkit, flamethrower, rocket boots (or cc break of choice), net turret, supply crate.

6pc forge runes, battle (yes i’ve made the switch…it’s a pun, get it? ^.^) or strength sigil.

rampager (i use rampager for cond dmg) ammy.

i’ve been rocking the ft exclusively in spvp since I hit 80 on my engie. spvp was NOT effected by the food nerf, so last patch saw nothing but buffs. a patch or two ago when they fixed the cone hit detection was also a buff.