Guild Wars 2

You ought to spend more time researching who has said what about the FT before trying to tell me what I think.

edit: if that came off rude, soz, but i definitely meant to be short. the FT is not a weak weapon, and I have never supported people’s opinion that it is. there are PAGES of discussion and debate about the FT. I suggest reading it.

edit 2: and more to the point: what part of a cone has the greatest surface area on a planar surface? the base, or the apex?

why would you keep your foe in the part of your cone that is the smallest and most likely to miss when you have a wide swath of flame 425 range from you?

since you asked for help making a “kit” for turrets, and im sure this got missed in the scroll:

nakoda.4213:

each turret should be a kit of its own.

5 = pack up/set up
4 = overcharge

2 – 3 ought to be extra skills, like drop bandage on a short cooldown or drop bandages on a long cool down for healing turret, or caltrops and an oil slick for net turret (small durations medium cooldowns, or whatever.

1 = attack my target.

Turrets should gain buffs from skills and elixirs like anything else.
Turrets should do enough dmg to make the opponent target the turret.
Turrets should be strong enough to survive sustained dmg for short periods.
Turrets should be able to be healed through sustained dmg for long periods.

This way we could swap between turret control and weapons/kits easily.

I could say more but im on a bus on my phone.

I disagree completely about backdraft. keeping the foes in the dead zone (not melee not ideal ranged) is how the ft functions most effectively. combined with rifle and net turret cc or shield #4 or PBR, the foe ought never get close enough tohit you nor too far away to be oor of ft#1.

your last two points I support.

You do not have tilt control with the flame jet, it shoots out in a cone, directly out in the direction you face. the only way it “tilts” is on a slope with auto aim enabled.

Keep in mind the cone is “3d” so it is a cone vertically as well as horizontally, which is why you sometimes hit foes up and down slopes.

I have not yet tested the “follow terrain” camera option.

Dont strafe backwards then, walk backwards and face your foe.

If your foe is anywhere within the 425 range of FT #1 and in front of your avatar, it will get hit.

Slopes create a problem: if you are NOT using auto aim, you MIGHT register misses running up and down slopes because your flame jet only fires DIRECTLY ahead. When aim assist ON this does not always happen, you will aim at your FOE regardless of angle. This is counter intuitive to the usual “turn off auto aim and strafe a group” strategy.

all said, just bind tab to “nearest enemy”, turn aim assist on, and just use tab to always target the foe beside you, and learn how to lead/strafe your opponent.

the ft works fine.

aiming with ft has always being about knowing the difference between where your avatar is facing and where your camera is pointed.

the ft fires in the direction your avatar is facing.

the only bug was with static objects, now fixed.

last patch was a big buff to spvp and a nerf to pve and wvw.

lots of threads on the ft.

Your mother’s IQ is so low that when I asked her for an inertial flux diagram she slapped me.

I use Supply Crate. I will use Elixir X if I want to goof around, and I will use the offensive golem if the group I am with is running smooth enough not to need an oh kitten button.

Zaxares.5419:

nakoda.4213:

Zaxares.5419:

Well, to be fair to my Norn travelling companion, there is a difference between venerating a Guardian Spirit that exemplifies the collective power of a race and worshipping a big rock that happens to be bright red due to iron oxide deposits.

… Such as what, exactly?

The Guardian Spirit is actually a sentient being, for one thing, so you can actually converse with it. Also, one should always treat a being who can summon hordes of its representative animals with respect. You do NOT want to wake up one morning to find your lab covered with minotaur excrement.

Although on the bright side, that unsanitary incident did allow me to confirm a few theories I had about minotaur diet for my book, “Ploop’s Grande Bestiary on the Flora and Fauna of Greater Tyria”, so I suppose it all worked out for the best.

Yes, I know what a Greater Spirit is, but the difference between offering it some sort of fealty or to the alchemical ability for ferrous metals to oxidize in their natural state remains to be explained. For lesser species, the mere silence of the iron oxides may be a sign of the colouration withholding its secrets. The Eternal Alchemy does not need to venerate either of these substandard methods for deriving meaning from existence.

google.3709:

Yea, they could simply place turrets as they are right now on a kit, the cooldowns would prevent the stronger turrets like net turret and rocket turret to be spammbable while allowing you to have short cool downs on rifle turret ( low DPS would kinda be like the auto attack ) and flame turret ( because of its short range 450 its most likely to die and/or will need to be place on different location near target during the fights)

I don’t design the game so i wouldn’t know but overcharged abilities could be taken out, or maybe traited into

edit:

oh and yes, blast finishers would naturally be removed x5 blast finishers would be kinda OP :P

re: cooldowns; our blast finisher buffing powers are great, we still want those. turret cd ought to be conditional, based on how it was destroyed.

picked up = 15 seconds
foe destroyed = 30 seconds
self destruct = 45 second.

The Autotool installation trait is where the 20% reduc in CD should be, giving 12, 24, 36 respectively.

edited my post above.

each turret should be a kit of its own.

5 = pack up/set up
4 = overcharge

2 – 3 ought to be extra skills, like drop bandage on a short cooldown or drop bandages on a long cool down for healing turret, or caltrops and an oil slick for net turret (small durations medium cooldowns, or whatever.

1 = attack my target.

Turrets should gain buffs from skills and elixirs like anything else.
Turrets should do enough dmg to make the opponent target the turret.
Turrets should be strong enough to survive sustained dmg for short periods.
Turrets should be able to be healed through sustained dmg for long periods.

This way we could swap between turret control and weapons/kits easily. and the turrets themselves still have their current abilities as their “auto attack”

Let’s say you have a net turret and a healing turret down, and you are fighting at the edge of their range, while your ally is in between them, you could swap to your net turret kit to spread some caltrops to slow your ally’s foe, then switch to healing turret and drop bandages for them in a matter of seconds while still engaging your own foe.

edit: re: cooldowns; our blast finisher buffing powers are great, we still want those. turret cd ought to be conditional, based on how it was destroyed.

picked up = 15 seconds
foe destroyed = 30 seconds
self destruct = 45 second.

The Autotool installation trait is where the 20% reduc in CD should be, giving 12, 24, 36 respectively.

it would have been great to have interviewers with actual experience hosting interviews.

March 26th is the supposed patch day.

as with kits, the mere fact that turrets occupy a utility slot means they are subject to versatility tax.

/sarcasm

each turret should be a kit of its own.

5 = pack up/set up
4 = overcharge

2 – 3 ought to be extra skills, like drop bandage on a short cooldown or drop bandages on a long cool down for healing turret, or caltrops and an oil slick for net turret (small durations medium cooldowns, or whatever.

1 = attack my target.

Turrets should gain buffs from skills and elixirs like anything else.
Turrets should do enough dmg to make the opponent target the turret.
Turrets should be strong enough to survive sustained dmg for short periods.
Turrets should be able to be healed through sustained dmg for long periods.

This way we could swap between turret control and weapons/kits easily.

No, they need a substantial increase in damage. If a turret build is going to be viable, then opponents should be afraid of turrets and NEED to take them out, otherwise there is no need for the turrets. More utility is not going to make the turrets more fearsome, all you will be doing is turning them into mechanical totems.

turrets need to hurt people so that people target the turrets instead of the engie who is (actually capable of) healing a turret that is under direct attack from an enemy, with enough success that the turret is able to replace the engineer’s damage in a battle.

healing stats need to effect the engie’s ability to heal his turrets. turrets need to be the beneficiaries of boons like might and regen and all the rest. tossing elixirs should effect turrets, etc.

Essentially, if Anet is going to allow rogues to have permanent stealth, an engie ought to be able to keep a set of turrets alive against at least one rogue who is sneaking about and trying to burst down a turret the engie is within range of repairing.

the balance is that it forces the opponent to aggro the engie (the healer) allowing the (turret) dps to work on the foe. Now damage shouldn’t be so high that a turret can burst like a rogue, but threatening enough that if the foe focuses too long on the engie, the turret becomes a threat again. (and a smart engie would have kited the foe away from the turret to have time to dps a bit before healing the turret again)

side note; i don’t think turrets should be a kit, I think each turret we have ought to be a “kit” unto itself, and when deployed, you can stow the kit controls for your weapons or another kit, leaving the toolbelt as destroy. Your overcharge would just become an ability. swap to the healing turret “kit” drop the overcharge ability, maybe tell it to toss out some bandages (on a high cooldown) or A bandage (shorter cooldown), swap to net turret “kit” overcharge, tell it to drop some caltrops (medium cooldown), maybe an oil slick (long cooldown), switch to toolkit do some repairs, throw some more nails on the ground.

it wouldn’t be hard, anet.

cargan.5689:

Doubt it will ever happen but i miss the TF2 idea, you can have a quick throw away turret that trades speed for convienience

A standard sentry that only takes a while but then if you beat on it for a while upgrades, its stationary its a time investment but when its finished its some thing people need to be wary of not spitball gun they run past.

the way they balanced the speed of pick up and tear down is to have the turrets be scalable in level. the macro game for engie was supplies. you needed supplies to build up your equipment and you needed supplies to increase their level. Now, the way it works in an FPS is different though, because of how much more precise timing and targetting can be in the controlled environments.

The closest an MMO can get is what they have now in sPvP. but in order to implement a “supplies” mechanic, it would have to replace the toolbelt and be an efficiency pool like adrenaline or whatever it is thieves have. to adjust for the rapidity of micromanaging turrets, they would have to be weak but reparable under sustained fire and sustained repair, and they would have to do more damage.

foes should want to avoid my turrets and want to kill them, and I should be able to protect them and want to because of their value to my survival.

Knox.8462:

I’ve yet to meet an Asura at Queen Jennah’s level of power.

You’ve not yet met very many Asura.

Fey Zeal.7032:

Another theory could be they used magic to engineer hair onto their heads. And why you see no partially bald Asuras is because they didn’t engineer themselves with those “defects”.

But then you have to wonder why aren’t they trying to sell magicked hair to humans as a cure for baldness.

Ironically, baldness is fast becoming a fad in human circles. Bookah never cease to amaze.

Goloith.6349:

So what did I take away from this interview:

1. ANET is absolutely out of touch with the engineer. We’re going extinct and this is the best they can come up with.
2. Another failed attempt at turrets. What the need to do is create a turret kit. Skill #1 does damage and AoE heals turrets(maybe make a talent point in inventions that increases this AoE radius). Skills #2-#5 will now just be turrets (rifle, fire, rocket,& net).
   This would really give engineers a unique defensive playstyle by retreating and dropping turrets in a circle to kite the enemy and then swapping to weapons/kit to fight the enemy in the middle of your turrets. Or maybe make engineer super defensive holding choke points in WvW (they might have to adjust CD in PvP(.
3. Turrets are going to need an actual buff in WvW so they are viable…..or they could maybe make a turret kit mentioned above and keep their HP as it is.
4. WE HATE RNG. So you explain how players hate it yet you still keep it, really?
5. Our kits need to either be condition damage or direct damage and if they want one mixed kit that is fine. Does that mean that we need to remove all conditions from direct damage kits? No! Blinds are great, vulnerability compliments the kit,knock backs and non-damage conditions are great to work into direct damage kits. Vice-versa ANET needs to pick a kit that they want to make full condition damage and scrap the direct damage from it. There’s a reason that many people love P/P because it does all of these things but it suffers from the damage tax. My suggestion would be that if ANET made a turret kit to turn wrench kit into pure condition damage. #1 would be an AoE boomerang bleed, #2 would be magnet discharge that blows the target away for 1000 (let’s be honest nails suck)
6. This isn’t exactly just Engineers, but we need to have gear/runes that work. for example fixing Giver’s weapon condition duration would be a huge benefit to help make condition engineers on par with other builds and professions.

I know I posted some negative feedback, but I really am dying to play my Engineer again. He was my first character and after seeing how finished the guardian and Mesmer (and the insane GS & Scepter buff) its hard to play the profession.

Regardless thank you ANET for the interview.

The reason that forums are an unreliable source of information is because posts like this do not speak for everyone. they certainly to not speak for me.

I really laughed at the part where the drone on the left said that stuff his friends email him and people pm him in game about tend to get priority.

What a garbage interview.

No more kid’s stuff, Engineer. You’re gonna see people get nerfed. Mesmer’s gonna get nerfed. I’m gonna nerfed. You’re gonna get nerfed too.

- Elementalist.

(The Walking Dead)

Zaxares.5419:

Well, to be fair to my Norn travelling companion, there is a difference between venerating a Guardian Spirit that exemplifies the collective power of a race and worshipping a big rock that happens to be bright red due to iron oxide deposits.

… Such as what, exactly?

InfamousBrad.5879:

Q: How many synergeticists does it take to change a photonic emiter?

A: One. Who hands the problem off to a dynamics grad and a statics grad, reducing it to a previously solved photonic emitter joke.

Seriously, I have to congratulate my dynamacist and staticist friends for the combination of stubbornness and intellectual dullness it takes to keep working on a problem once you know how it will turn out. We couldn’t do it without you.

That reminds me about the time when Asuran science was just beginning to delve in to the mysteries of photonic energy.

Substance! cried the Statics, because it has mass!
Energy! cried the Dynamics, because it results from a reaction.

Ambivalently, the Synergeticists reminded everyone that it doesn’t matter.

Ryuujin.8236:

Any true synergetic would recognise the synergy provided by all three colleges; only a dynamics or statics student would try claim their school is “more important” in the eternal alchemy than any other

Indeed, thank you for distilling what I said above for the bookah audience.

Leo G.4501:

nakoda.4213:

If “subject matter experts” are required to improve curriculum, then there is no better source than the Priory..of which many Asura are members.

It’s leader is Asura!

The colleges are the point you complete your education but the Priory is where you apply that education. There, the races tend to be held as equals or at the very least alternative sources of data for Asura fueled advancements.

Beyond having some of the wisest Asura and many intellects of various races, you have the most pimp Asura leader in Steward Gixx. I mean, look at that portrait…

Quite. As if I didn’t know that already. I was merely distilling information for the bookah since that seems to be the in thing to do, and suggesting to our progressive colleague here that we have AMPLE information on outside races thanks to our involvement in the Priory.

If “subject matter experts” are required to improve curriculum, then there is no better source than the Priory..of which many Asura are members.

Ryuujin.8236:

Experiments have demonstrated that “typical” plants release chemicals when damaged, and other plants are receptive to the chemicals and may actually avoid the origin; ie. it is normal that plants both respond to harmful stimuli and avoid receiving harm.

Should we stop harvesting and consuming plants due to this reflex action? – Of course not!.

In my experiments I have found that sylvari, likewise display reaction and aversion to harm. This is a normal reaction from all living things including the plants we rely on for food, that shouldn’t stop us from harvesting or experimenting on them otherwise we would all starve to death both intellectually and physically.

My sylvari test subjects have objected to this perspective, though the opinion of plants doesn’t amount to much, and I shall endevour to prove this is simply a reflex action as well.

This is an interesting study. Tell me, did the introduction of harmful stimuli alter their linguistic capabilities at all? The plants’ capacity for mimicking the speech patterns of sentient species is alarming. No doubt a seditious form of infiltration and pollination, not unlike aggressive species of sporing mushrooms. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the plants developed the ability to mimic fright or other such sympathetic responses so as to fool their prey in to a false reverie of compassion.

If we can gather enough Sylvari plant matter, we might be able to produce a fibrous material out of their arboreal substance which would allow the Peacemakers to camouflage themselves and infiltrate Kudu’s operations with better success.

I will forward your study off to my colleagues at the College of Synergetics with my highest regards.

Statics and Dynamics are but two opposite sides of the coin that is Synergetics.

Esplen.3940:

nakoda.4213:

Esplen.3940:

Erector.1458:

Erector.1458:

Hey, at least I’m TRYING to be nice. You guys on the other hand are behaving like snobs. I was right, you don’t know the meaning of “All things have a right to grow.” So, I’m going to tell you the meaning. It means almost everyone has their rights, those who abuse those rights don’t have the right to grow. Asuras are not the only ones with special knowledge. Charr know how to build war machines, Sylvari know how to build friendships, Humans know how to build up societies, and Norn know how to build alliances. All races are equal in skill, but different on using them.

Look, I’m sorry about all this arguing. I just thought my question was interesting. But considering the fact that Asura are to egoistic to have a friendly conversation with, I fear posting this question was a mistake. I just want to start an interesting conversation, but it turned into an argument. I hope we can just forgive each other, and just continue the conversation in a friendly manner. Agreed?

snickers Did you just apologize for arguing with yourself?

Now Esplen, I wasn’t going to be so “rude” as to point THAT out.

Well, he comes here asking for initiation into a college with his only prerequisite being slowing down the Inquest (not even an invention). Then he says that he IS an Inquest… Then he argues with himself.

I feel like I am not out of line when responding to his lying behavior. And yes, I am using simple words for the tree to understand my thoughts.

This is precisely the sort of seditious sabotage our arboreal assassin is after! We’ve lowered our standards before even accepting the linguistically inclined legume!

How could it possibly proceed to prestigious perfection within our hallowed halls!? I’ve been polite so far, but I won’t have our own progress hindered by catering to bookahs!

Svarty.8019:

SoggyFrog.4170:

17-20 points – Asura; HAHAHAHA I HAVE OBTAINED SECRETS OF EXTRAORDINARY POWER BEYOND THE MINUSCULE GRASP OF YOUR BRIAN.

Who’s Brian?

You mean “whose” brain….

1) What is the sit-rep on ArenaNet’s development krewes? (who is working on what? [don’t need names obviously but “team A is here,” etc.] How are they faring? [focus, moral, progress], etc.)

2) How long until a PTR is made available? (a PTR is an excellent vehicle for player/developer interaction and an indispensable tool for developers to keep the game current, particularly since player-testers are willing to suffer bugs rather than cry sour grapes about them)

3) From the developer’s point of view, what is the biggest challenge they are currently facing? (that is, specifically, not just “managing profession balance,” but rather i.e., “finding a way to fix the Asura Engineer using Elixir S camera bug without breaking camera collision for everyone else” or sommat like that.)

Hexx Skellington and Benn E. Violence, respectively.

Erector.1458:

I was treated like an Inquest Asura when I brought up a question (why can’t other races join the Asuran colleges?) that wasn’t a bad question at all. I told them MY inquest guild is meant to bring peace, not chaos. I try so hard to be nice, but now their egos are starting to infuriate me. I even told them the meaning of inquest and to look it up. Inquest means judicial inquiry, it is not a short name for inquisition.

I am to you, Inquest Saboteur!

I see you are trying to spread your lies of peaceful Inquest activity since your attempt to dilute the purity of Asura academia was a failure!

Kudu will have to try harder!

Tuesday the 23rd.

Esplen.3940:

Erector.1458:

Erector.1458:

Hey, at least I’m TRYING to be nice. You guys on the other hand are behaving like snobs. I was right, you don’t know the meaning of “All things have a right to grow.” So, I’m going to tell you the meaning. It means almost everyone has their rights, those who abuse those rights don’t have the right to grow. Asuras are not the only ones with special knowledge. Charr know how to build war machines, Sylvari know how to build friendships, Humans know how to build up societies, and Norn know how to build alliances. All races are equal in skill, but different on using them.

Look, I’m sorry about all this arguing. I just thought my question was interesting. But considering the fact that Asura are to egoistic to have a friendly conversation with, I fear posting this question was a mistake. I just want to start an interesting conversation, but it turned into an argument. I hope we can just forgive each other, and just continue the conversation in a friendly manner. Agreed?

snickers Did you just apologize for arguing with yourself?

Now Esplen, I wasn’t going to be so “rude” as to point THAT out.

I fail to comprehend how the deficiency in your discerning faculties to differentiate informed discussion from opinionated debate indicates a propensity for snobbishness on our part.

I’m still unconvinced that the Sylvari are sentient …

The only judicial inquiries an Inquest deserves are bets on how long it takes for your head to pop off after I’ve wrapped your ears around your neck and pulled!

Aveneo.2068:

And I just love to see Orr burn!

This warms the kittenles of my heart. (hahah take that dennis leary)

And some just want to see the world in flames….

The point I was making is that it wasn’t the REACTOR that caused the explosion, it was cultural contamination! Dimensional collapse was never an issue until OUTSIDERS started messing with the Matrix Cube sub-processing interdimensional controls. I’ve seen them! Jumping around the reactor like it is a playground, encouraging young Asura to do the same! Greed and curiosity caused Thaumanova to go critical, not any flaw in Asuran engineering or mathematical magnanimity!

And for the love of balance, it is spelled C-O-L-L-E-G-E

A collage is something human children do to pretend they have multithread attention span capacity and dynamic thought processes.

You and this Leo chap above have alarming tendencies to flaunt Inquest recruiting messages in this thread. I suspect YOU are one of Kudu’s agents!

I am reporting you to the Peacemakers!

sad thing is, i’ve spent so much time in spvp leviticizing people’s demons that im still in a basic set of exotic rabid gear from back in my leveling up days, I haven’t earned any tokens yet.

pardon me while i stretch out on the irony board and work out a few wrinkles.

I utterly cannot believe we are even entertaining this rubbish. Surface dwellers in the colleges! Hrmph! Why not let the Skritt and Quaggan form an alliance to hooOoorde some shiiIiinies under the sea.

Preposterous.

I will not accept those adolescent anthromorphs acquiring access to the adept and awesome acumen of Asura academics!

Zinwrath.2049:

nakoda.4213:

it drives me insane how i explain to you HOW i use the FT and HOW it works for me and HOW i find success with it, but every time I do so, you tell me I am wrong because of something the other player will do.

NO KITTEN, MITTENS. Eff Eff Ess, the whole point of PvP is to be able to read the opponents and play BETTER than they do.

Thanks for pointing out I need to be facing my opponents, I didn’t know that!
Guess what!? The BEST part about the FT is that you DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT BESIDE YOUR OPPONENT so you can stay OUT of melee range WITHOUT a loss to your OWN dmg output.

CC, knockbacks, blowbacks, the kit is for CONTROLLING … GROUPS … of MULTIPLE … foes not just hammering away one at a time. The fact that chasing people afraid of fire around is fun was just an anecdote I was relating.

The FT spec ALLOWS you to take a few hits without dying BECAUSE you are precariously close to melee range. It is OWED to the fact that you need to be able to absorb a few strikes.

BUT THAT IS THE POINT!

Kitten man! you look like trash!
Ya but you should see the other guy!

I burnt him to a mother kitten crisp laughing at him the whole time.

Not my problem if you don’t LIKE the way the kit plays. Stop harping on it because you can’t cut the mustard. And stop preaching as though the kit is broken. IT IS NOT BROKEN. It is one thing to criticize the kit for low dmg output and to discuss strategies for the kits uses, but it chaps my kitten when I get blamed for spreading misinformation for making a mistake when this whole infernal debate is based upon the misinformation that the FT is a broken kit. It isn’t.

The changes you suggest (smoke field and blast finisher) would be BUFFS and NOT fixes.

This is an unnecessary wall of rage. You took offence to something he said and the result is a lot of talk with no meat to back any of your statements. Mod should delete this. “CC, knockbacks, blowbacks” it only does one of these..your exagerating. The kit is designed around AE close range damage, it is much weaker than many other sources to do it, which is why they buffed it HEAVILY last patch, developers are aware it never was fullfilling its designed role. Some argue it still was not enough, and most people who advocate that its balanced now, were claiming it was balanced before the gross amount of buffs it just received….so i and many others dismiss their opinions.

anyway, if you read something that makes you mad. Take 10 minutes to cool off before responding to it, else you will just write up a long angry mess where you end up just making yourself look stupid and hysterical.

angry? check.
fed up? check.
hysterical? negative, houston.

what I wrote was lucid, direct, and honest. but the real meat behind it is all the back and forth that goes on in this supposed race to find the best engie spec. like every profession, the engie has no best spec. while every spec has things that need tweaking, none of them are intrinsically broken.

and yet, there is constant argument (to which I often fall prey, I am a kettle, not a pot here) about which is better or worse when we should be talking about “what works and what doesn’t” to provide new players with ACTUAL useful information.

it is still not my problem that you can’t hack a flamethrower. but that doesn’t make me want to stop using it, and it doesn’t mean that I need to change. furthermore, some specs (like PPConfusion or PPHgH) are beyond me as a playstyle, I just don’t like em.

Doesn’t mean they suck, it means I suck using them because when I am in combat I don’t think that way. I’ve spent 14 years playing MMO as a main raid tank. GW2 doesn’t have that role, but IMO, the FT is pretty kitten close.

You never heard tanks kittening about low single target dps in other games BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY COULDN’T AND DIDN’T KITTEN CARE, it isn’t what they were made for.

You remember that racing game with the punk turtle and plumber? the FT is like the punk turtle, slow to start, hard to stop. Nades are like the plumber, steady gains with a few awesome tricks up his sleeve. (Maska is like a mushroom, fast off the line and hard to keep up with :P)

The point is that there is a REASON for different types of strengths and weaknesses in video games, it is to broaden the appeal to a wider audience. Not everyone will like engie at ALL, and within the class people will play differently, and the game is DESIGNED to allow and encourage this diversity.

it drives me insane how i explain to you HOW i use the FT and HOW it works for me and HOW i find success with it, but every time I do so, you tell me I am wrong because of something the other player will do.

NO KITTEN, MITTENS. Eff Eff Ess, the whole point of PvP is to be able to read the opponents and play BETTER than they do.

Thanks for pointing out I need to be facing my opponents, I didn’t know that!
Guess what!? The BEST part about the FT is that you DO NOT HAVE TO BE RIGHT BESIDE YOUR OPPONENT so you can stay OUT of melee range WITHOUT a loss to your OWN dmg output.

CC, knockbacks, blowbacks, the kit is for CONTROLLING … GROUPS … of MULTIPLE … foes not just hammering away one at a time. The fact that chasing people afraid of fire around is fun was just an anecdote I was relating.

The FT spec ALLOWS you to take a few hits without dying BECAUSE you are precariously close to melee range. It is OWED to the fact that you need to be able to absorb a few strikes.

BUT THAT IS THE POINT!

Kitten man! you look like trash!
Ya but you should see the other guy!

I burnt him to a mother kitten crisp laughing at him the whole time.

Not my problem if you don’t LIKE the way the kit plays. Stop harping on it because you can’t cut the mustard. And stop preaching as though the kit is broken. IT IS NOT BROKEN. It is one thing to criticize the kit for low dmg output and to discuss strategies for the kits uses, but it chaps my kitten when I get blamed for spreading misinformation for making a mistake when this whole infernal debate is based upon the misinformation that the FT is a broken kit. It isn’t.

The changes you suggest (smoke field and blast finisher) would be BUFFS and NOT fixes.

1700 cond dmg ~~ 750 burn/tick

I also want to make sure that what I am saying does not get misrepresented.

The Flamethrower is not a burst dps weapon, it does not kill fast. I NEED all that CC to keep the foe near me and controlled while near me. I need to WORK to kill people. I need to do all those things that others complain about.

Phineus’s spec is far more versatile than mine. But I like chasing people and making them hate me. I like making them HAVE to deal with me only to find out I am not some easy kill. Rather than see a health bar drop dramatically, it is more like watching a receding channel bar, counting down how long I have to survive. I pick and choose my targets. But I consider all of that as part of playing intelligently.

I can’t just roam around and collect points because I am not built for that. What I am build for is disruption and aoe mayhem. I pick off people at the edges of zergs and when they head in to the group for safety, I strafe along hitting them and everyone they hide behind, setting them ablaze. If an entire team has to turn and focus on me to stop me from killing them kindly, then the rest of my krewe is free to wreak havoc. I will survive.

It is just part of coordinated team play. none of this 1v1 nonesense.

Erector.1458:

Esplen.3940:

As for the Raptor and Egg dilemma, the egg clearly came first as the first “pre-Raptor” laid a mutated “Pre-Raptor Egg” which was not a Pre-Raptor Egg, but in fact a Raptor Egg which hatched a Raptor. If you do not count mutations, then you’re saying "what came first, the tree or the tree?

Leo G.4501:

One simple reason:

Asura have extensive intelligence but lack wisdom.

To accept other races into their institutes would be wise as more minds and ways of thinking will advance knowledge in every aspect as well as learn new and unorthodox methods to approach problems. But if they were wise and intelligent they would be perfect. Their flaw is their inflated egos, their close-mindedness and lack of wisdom.

I’d expect those wishing to learn more of the Asura teachings join the Durmand Priory as they tend to house the wiser of the Asura race and are filled with open-minded scholars willing to learn and teach.

And that’s how our society will fall. We will weaken ourselves to better others? What good will come of that? Tell me, if there were to be a method to incorporate other races in our culture, do you not think it would have been done already?

Actually, your society will fall due to forgetting dangerous outcomes of your most complicated machinery, like that reactor in the Maguma jungle. If I were you, I would just find another source of energy that is safe (like water, solar, wind, heat, or wave power). Oh, and while your at it, tear down that reactor, it will be the death of Tyria if that thing remains operational. I expect it because it was due to the time warping it has been doing. It has been spawning steam creatures, drakes, and chaos materials, not to mention the occasional veterans and that Son of Savnir corrupted warrior. Therefor, your crews would be completely decimated. That reactor was by far a failed project. I’m sorry, but it has to be dealt with.

What could POSSIBLY be unsafe about thermonuclear transmutation of magicointertial energy fields?

Those creatures were the result of the constant middling of the inferior species. As soon as Thaumanova became open to the public for tours, things started to go wrong. Everyone knows that contamination owed to the presence of non-Asuran genetic material causes fluctuations in the dynamocrossfermentation fields that regulate the output of thermonuclear magic energy.

Besides, The Peacemakers would have cleaned the mess up just fine, no one ASKED you outsiders to barge in and start killing things willy nilly!

I’ve read that paper. An interesting footnote revealed that complex proteins are known to produce orexin in the hypothalamus region leading to a significant increase in synaptic activity. Given that postulations regarding the origin of Raptor Eggs require a great magnitude of mental manipulations, it only makes sense that the complex proteins of Raptor Eggs would fuel such enlightening endeavours. As such, the existence of both Raptors and Raptor Eggs negates any need for the argument.

However, in response to your elementary query about the requirement of Raptors laying Raptor Eggs, it would seem to me that if selective breeding determines the path of evolutionary chains, then it is a constant that what came before is something different from what came after, so the question really is: do Raptor Eggs ever really come from Raptors?

Pardon me for reducing the entirety of human education but if I am not mistaken even the humans most learned of scholars is clueless as to how their species learned to speak.

Snort! They even have to be taught to speak their own language! /cackle