Guild Wars 2

Well I think you stay in the world for a little bit as kind of an anti-cheater sort of thing.

You know, so you can’t log out in PVP right before someone gets a kill on you or something. I dunno. It’s like having to wait a minute to log out, except your character does the waiting and you just walk away.

tigirius.9014:

I recall this too. I also recall that we were supposed to get the ability to aquire in game cosmetics to wear over our armors, not much there really in that way. There’s a few things in the gem store. Not what I thought they were talking about from the interviews I read. I thought we’d have these cosmetics as prizes from these mini games.

I miss being able to wear a costume over armor as opposed to just wearing a costume.

MatthewMedina.5419:

Geikamir.6329:

MatthewMedina.5419:

If this is boring to you personally, hopefully there are other achievements that help you meet your monthly. :-)

While I agree with everything you say fundamentally, I’m a bit curious about the reasoning behind this particular achievement. The best thing about the new daily/monthly set up is that according to what part of the game appeals to you most you can usually get them done without too much of your time bleeding into other areas. For these periscopes, they don’t exactly add anything to the game. Are there people that actually find these fun? Not easy or convenient for achieving the requirements of the monthly. I mean genuinely intriguing, captivating, interesting, thrilling, etc.? They aren’t even part of any sort of routine while normally playing the game.

I’m sorry you didn’t feel they added anything to the game. As part of Flame and Frost, they were positioned to make the Molten Alliance feel like an ever-encroaching threat, and that they were planning for something by spying on their enemies.

Specifically addressing the achievement, while we hope that all the achievements are intriguing, captivating, interesting, etc. as you said, the new system allows you to pick the ones that appeal to you personally. Admittedly, I wouldn’t put anything into the game that I felt was not fun. For me, the design goal with the perisopes was: yes it’s not fun to get knocked around. It IS fun to dodge and deke carefully and feel a sense of victory when you defeat something challenging and yes, somewhat frustrating.

However, this can be very subjective and there can be a fine line bwteen being challenged and feeling like you’re being punished, and as you’ve seen when we feel something is more punishing than fun, we aren’t afraid to change it and so we have.

You might not have found destroying the periscopes for their logs fun. Maybe you prefer jumping puzzles or events, in which case there are monthlies to suit your tastes. I’d like to think that this periscope achievement does appeal to some of our players, and we will definitely be looking at feedback and data we get from achievements like this to help inform our future design decisions. Thanks so much for your feedback! :-)

I did kind of enjoy all that knockback. lol

I threw $60 away on Diablo 3. I stopped playing it after a week. I’ve already gotten more mileage out of this pick than I did Diablo 3.

Arekai.5698:

You need like what, over 600 used pickaxes for it to be worth?
Way to waste your money.
And it’s soulbound too. By that time gw3 will be out.

Why do people never think before they buy? Learn to use your brain and do some math.

Edit: Here, for the people who never learned math:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1citm3/60000_uses_before_the_molten_alliance_pick_is/

Because it’s not even worth a half hour of my time in IRL money. It’s not like I rented to own a home theater system. God, people can be so cheap.

Ronah.2869:

It doesn’t matter if you need to grind half of level or a few levels, the point is you are not able to do your storyline continuously without “the extra distractions”.
I can go from start to finish in GW1 without doing anything else than the primary quests and missions. I don’t need a “certain” level to be able to do them.

And that Final Fantasy example is lame. All Asian games are based on grinding so you could take 100 more games as examples, that doesn’t mean they are doing the right thing.

And yea, the mining pick put you on top and is a game breaker because it is not for everyone. Look at the ori materials price

What is WRONG with you? Leveling a character in an RPG is a distraction? Again, Final Fantasy or any other game… my point is that the grind is MUCH GREATER than in guild wars. Period. Or are you that self-entitled that you feel that you should be free of the shackles of character progression?

You can get an ori pick for 300 karma I saw someone mention. There is no difficulty in getting an ori pick. This molten pick is mainly for convenience and looks. It’s just like an unlimited calling plan versus a pay as you go plan. Don’t like the crap with pay as you go, pay more for an unlimited plan. Big hairy deal.

Jumping puzzles are obviously not for me, and I can’t get all that loot at the end of them… is that a game breaker too? It’s frustrating, but not a game breaker. I just get my loot elsewhere.

Suddenflame.2601:

dinominator.9862:

I might consider buying this if it didn’t have the lava animation and made it so that mining was instantaneous and I didn’t have to manually loot the ore.

Instead of a flaming lava pick, I would like to see a super-efficient (maybe Asuran?) invention that manipulates the Eternal Alchemy to mine the ore simultaneously across multiple time dimensions and to use the same portal technology they already have to place it in your bags. Now that’s a time saver.

Umm dude you dont have to manually loot the ore. Check your settings ingame.

He wants ore pickup like how you pick up gold in D3, by just going close to it and not having to be bothered to pushing the F key and waiting a whole few seconds.

I have a hard time fitting a whole zerg in my aoe and getting them all to stand still anyway.

Goettel.4389:

Nuka Cola.8520:

danbuter.2314:

Nuka Cola.8520:

why would you buy it with any kind of money?

Real life cash may be easier to come by than in-game gold for some.

Not only an infinite mining pick is useless because the normal ones are cheap but spending 10$ for pixels and pixels that aren’t even useful is kinda funny imo. Like not because its new YOU have to buy something as worthless…

Have you ever bought a DVD ?

Useless pixels on a disc, why buy those ?

OMG HAHA I love this comment.

Nuka Cola.8520:

why would you buy it with any kind of money?

Convenience and looks. duh.

Kain Francois.4328:

Just curious, so I’m surveying. Who actually bought a a Fusion Pickaxe with real money instead of gold to gems?

I did. Most expensive virtual item I’ve ever bought, but instantly knew I was going to buy it. $10 is peanuts, considering I’ve played GW1 nearly 5000 hours and plan to do the same with GW2.

$10 is the least I can do for Anet, LOL.

ryan.5106:

Am I the only person that truly enjoys playing this game?

LoL, bear with me, please. Here’s how this question popped into my head. I had a lot, and I mean a LOT of down time today at work, so of course I’m just tooling around on my iPhone and figure I’ll hit up the GW2 forums for a few laughs. As I’m reading through the posts for the various classes- and trust me I read through what must have been 50 posted topics scattered between the various classes and the running trend is that every class is “broken” and “unplayable”, Anet HATES US ALL, and THIS GAME SUCKS- THEY BROKED MY CLASS!!!!!

Bwahahahaha!!! My sides were splitting, seriously. I guess it doesn’t help that all the people, each and every one of them, that were whining and crying on these forums typed their responses like they dropped out of the sixth grade. I digress, however

I just thought I would share my observations with you guys and I’m hoping that we can start some sort of positive feedback for the developers at Arena Net. After all, they’ve marketed a great product that has brought at least me, and hopefully a majority of others a lot of fun and entertainment.

I’ll catch you guys later, I’m off to troll some mouth breathers before I actually go into the game!

I like the game. I figure no one posts about LIKING the game on the forums, because they’re all playing the game.

Flamenco.3894:

It’s not really an exotic armor when it’s obtainable with coin currency rather than with tokens or karma that require you to go certain events and experience the depths of hell in tyria.

Yep it is. ALL exotic armor was like that in GW1.

Except this is way more money since you don’t also have to hand over materials to help make the armor.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

ophidic.1279:

I’m glad to give it to them if I can reduce 3 bags to 3 slots. (Yes i’m that OCD that I use the right grade tool for the right mat, and keep 2 of each in a bag, 3 bags total.)

I wouldn’t call that the “right” tool necessarily. It’s fine if you want to use the minimum-required tier of tool (and yeah, I agree that’s OCD), but it’s equally “right” to use a higher-grade tool, especially for those who value convenience over cost.

For example, it costs just over 1c/use to use mithril axes/picks instead of copper ones — I’d rather pay that modest amount to avoid keeping track of multiple tools, number of uses, and otherwise micromanaging my inventory.

Yeah I guess that’s true. I did that more in the beginning, but I’ve been getting lazy with copper iron and steel.

Ronah.2869:

P2W in other MMOs = pay to be on top, while in GW2, P2W= pay to be the first on top. And the “convenience” is a word invented by A-Net to replace the P2W as invented renown hearts to replace the kill 10 rats concept, and the scouts instead of the quest log,
They just hired a psychologist to invent words to distract people from the real thing.
Other MMOs are based on gear so that is the general idea of what a P2W is, so people think that of the endgame.
The endgame in GW2 is based on grinding skins to look better, so all they have in the shop is going around that philosophy.
Even the “we don’t think grinding is fun” from their Manifesto has turned out to be a false statement while everything in the game is based on grinding.
Look at this, you cant even finish your storyline like in a normal single player $60 game without grinding between levels.

Uhhhh. are you serious? Convenience was not a word “invented” by anet, having a flashy resource gathering tool does not put you “on top” of anything, and while it’s NOT a single player, you can for sure finish the story without grinding.

Even if you have to grind up a few levels it takes like an evening. If you’re lazy. You ever played final fantasy? Did you know you have to grind up levels before you can advance the story in that too?

How am I even supposed to pretend to take this seriously?

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

I kind of liked not knowing where to go though. You sit down with a notepad, write down directions and then wander around for ages, but when you find the place it feels like such an achievement.

Oh god, yes… I love the feeling of being lost and that game had it.

Wooboost.8527:

They see me minin, they hatin

I’m lovin this comment.

Suddenflame.2601:

I was just wondering in the future will there be a chance to get a axe and scythe with cool harvesting effects with unlimited use or have you guys not considered it yet?

I like the pick. Just wondering if there will be more different effects on them in the future along with unlimited effects on other harvesting type tools.

I’d stake cash on it.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Mirta.5029:

Morrowind was a grindfest so I would disagree.

Oh there’s plenty wrong with Morrowind.

(“I have to go WHERE? Where the F is that?!”)
(“So I level up, and my reward is random spawns of monsters getting tougher. Sweet.”)

I am not entirely sure what grind you were thinking of?

You actually had to read the log and use maps and place and write on your own map markers, which I thought was kind of a nice touch. Map travel makes me feel lazy, although if it’s there I can’t help but use it. lol

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

ophidic.1279:

I can see Skyrim/Morrowind, maybe Two Worlds or something being a good alternative, or even GW1.

That reminds me I never did finish Morrowind, I got way sidetracked doing . . . stuff. Random, gloriously uninteresting stuff like trying to scour the countryside for caverns/dungeons/shrines and tearing through them with Umbra.

Morrowind… oh my god what a game. Skyrim captured SOME of it’s feeling but not all of it.

I remember finding a chest under a bridge near balmora and some coins through some gaps in floorboards, and my mind was officially BLOWN.

I was not used to stuff like that, at that point in time.

OmniPotentes.4817:

That cool molten effect can be seen from miles away in WvW. Good luck mining….enjoy the effect and the repair costs.

LOL, carry a regular one into wvw? Good point though.

Ronah.2869:

The pick is just the beginning There will be the other tools too in some future “Live story” events. The store starts to be full of convenience items which slowly but surely will turn GW2 into a P2W game.

Ok it’s not pay to win. That is an incorrect statement. You said yourself, “convenience items”

No one is winning any harder if they don’t have to check their store of picks to make sure they have enough/proper grade. Does that mean people who buy the Mystic Forge Conduit off the trading post are also paying to win?

Do you know what winning is in this game? Aside from PVP matches, and completing the story, there really isn’t any “winning” to be had. This isn’t like APB where you can buy better more accurate more powerful weapons.

If ascended gear was gems only I MIGHT agree with you that might be pay to win, except ascended gear doesn’t give a huge edge.

Hoyvin.3241:

ophidic.1279:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

‘ROI’ would imply this item is an investment.

it’s not.

What is ROI supposed to mean in this context anyway? Rate of increase?

Return On Investment.

Ahhhh… I suppose that stands to reason. Thanks!

Flubble.8093:

don’t just think about mining ori nodes, it’s a convenience item that will mine all ore nodes. saves carrying a few picks around for different nodes, you’ll never run out so no need to check on how many you have before adventuring out and never worry about fighting your way to a rich node to find you ran out of picks and have to do it all again.

This is why this item is worth the $10 to me.

Especially considering i’ve spent $60 on games I don’t even really play after the first week. This pick will be with me for years.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

‘ROI’ would imply this item is an investment.

it’s not.

What is ROI supposed to mean in this context anyway? Rate of increase?

dinominator.9862:

ophidic.1279:

Wow that’s really low/pathetic.

Cunning and enterprising, though. Don’t people do this IRL? One example is bars (think free drinks).

Yeah and I hate it there too.

Reminds me of one time I was in Piken Square in GW1 and I saw someone offer 10 plat for dirty chat. LOL.

Hicci.8761:

I usually create these succubus-like looking gothic chicks and seduce all the guys to give me money. I have about 9 fake emails and 6 different phone numbers. =3

Wow that’s really low/pathetic.
It’s their own stupidity, but still.

clay.7849:

ophidic.1279:

clay.7849:

ophidic.1279:

lordkrall.7241:

clay.7849:

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. LOL!

Seriously, just because you don’t like the OP or disagree with him doesn’t mean it’s a troll post. There are plenty of people that have beef with the game.

The OP is however doing more or less the definition of trolling with that post.

It basically is. There’s been a million of these.

If it was the same person, I would agree. However, it is different people and they have all realized that something about this game isn’t fun for them – and they have the right to post about that feeling for the the devs to see without the need of being called a troll.

Honestly I think they’re playing the wrong game. I don’t mean that in a mean way, I mean that in “this game isn’t suited to their long term needs” kind of way.

I just wish more people shared this attitude about the non-fun jumping puzzles.

I agree. I know I’m playing the wrong game. There is, however, very little competition it seems out there in the MMO genre at the moment.

I keep telling myself I want to play The Secret World, but I have unreasonable problems with playing non-fantasy MMO type games.

Actually, I don’t even like MMOs. GW1 was the closest thing to an MMO I played, but I LOVED IT.

I will probably go back to Skyrim and turn up the difficulty meter another notch while waiting for the next good single player fantasy RPG.

I think a lot of people, like me, are in limbo and are bumming around GW2 because it is F2P.

Yeah I think a lot of people need more story or something than what GW2 has… Guild wars had had story, but IMO it’s pretty weak. I’m just here to farm and get loot.

I can see Skyrim/Morrowind, maybe Two Worlds or something being a good alternative, or even GW1.

Siphaed.9235:

What profession do you pick and why?

Female Mesmer.

I choose it because of the mesmer’s style (skillwise and fashion wise), and I play a female because I like the appearance of a female over a male. (I’m straight, go figure right?)

And it is fun being a flourishy flashy class as opposed to the usual heavy armor swinging a sword type, or generic boring old robed mage.

clay.7849:

ophidic.1279:

lordkrall.7241:

clay.7849:

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. LOL!

Seriously, just because you don’t like the OP or disagree with him doesn’t mean it’s a troll post. There are plenty of people that have beef with the game.

The OP is however doing more or less the definition of trolling with that post.

It basically is. There’s been a million of these.

If it was the same person, I would agree. However, it is different people and they have all realized that something about this game isn’t fun for them – and they have the right to post about that feeling for the the devs to see without the need of being called a troll.

Honestly I think they’re playing the wrong game. I don’t mean that in a mean way, I mean that in “this game isn’t suited to their long term needs” kind of way.

I just wish more people shared this attitude about the non-fun jumping puzzles.

Ronah.2869:

ophidic.1279:

Ronah.2869:

The reason i am not buying any pick from the gem store is because they deleted one of my comments in here and got myself an infraction point proving that what i said was right.

Dude, my ENTIRE inbox is infractions and deletions. That’s a silly reason.

I will only give you some quotes but not from my comment:

Sir Francis Bacon:
A forbidden writing is thought to be a certain spark of truth, that flies up in the face of them who seek to tread it out.

Walter Bagehot:
So long as there are earnest believers in the world, they will always wish to punish opinions, even if their judgment tells them it is unwise and their conscience tells them it is wrong.

Elias Root Beadle:
Half the work that is done in this world is to make things appear what they are not.

John Adams, :
When people talk of the freedom of writing, speaking, or thinking, I cannot choose but laugh. No such thing ever existed. No such thing now exists; but I hope it will exist. But it must be hundreds of years after you and I shall write and speak no more.

“You have recieved 1 Infraction Point. Infraction points may cause loss of privileges, including forum suspension”

I see what you’re saying and I those are good quotes.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Maybe going to http://gw2census.com/charts.php would be the better option.

I didn’t even know that existed. Neat.

Sometimes I wonder how many females plays scholar classes vs heavy classes vs medium and the same for males.

I’m a male that plays a female mesmer and I carry two sets of armor, one pretty and flourishy, and the other one more intimidating looking with big shoulders and that, not like anyone cares.

Naus the Gobbo.5172:

I am not a girl but I can give you an answer: They pick whatever profession they like because doing otherwise would be stupid, unless you have a specific goal for that character.

And please don’t ask gender-based questions again.

Wow, sorry someone’s curiosity offends you so greatly.

I would go so far to say that they can ask all the gender based questions they want… if a person doesn’t feel comfortable answering, they don’t have to.

Who are you to tell people what they can and cannot ask?

lordkrall.7241:

clay.7849:

Don’t hate the player, hate the game. LOL!

Seriously, just because you don’t like the OP or disagree with him doesn’t mean it’s a troll post. There are plenty of people that have beef with the game.

The OP is however doing more or less the definition of trolling with that post.

It basically is. There’s been a million of these.

dan matthews.2736:

lets discuss who is actually enjoying the game at level 80. also, do you consider this game a grind? in my opinion, people are leaving this game because its incredible boring and grindfest at level 80. what do you guys think?

Yeah but I LIKE grinding for nice skinned gear at max level.

Zaxares.5419:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Are you reading my mind, because that’s what I’m expecting here. End of the next Living Story arc, they release a sickle for 800 much the same way . . .

… ANet is gonna make SO much money off me this month if that’s the case. XD

I’m glad to give it to them if I can reduce 3 bags to 3 slots. (Yes i’m that OCD that I use the right grade tool for the right mat, and keep 2 of each in a bag, 3 bags total.)

Miserymachine.7512:

The majority of people here are saying that the pick is too expensive. Honestly I can’t imagine why.

Considering that a normal MMO subscription would be equivalent to 1200 gems a month, dropping a tenner on an item that makes it so I never have to buy another pick is a no brainer.

If you can’t afford it then don’t buy it, but don’t try to make it sound like it’s not a great deal.

Yeah I’ve paid way more than $10 in the past for pure convenience, and that’s exactly what this is. Convenience… and I understand there’s a flashy animation too, which is just a bonus.

Electro.4173:

An unlimited mining pick? That seems rediculously overpowered and cuts out a money sink. I can’t see it existing at all.

Was the link a legit link or just someone putting brackets around some random words to make a fake link?

People are still thinking like this? Gathering tools aren’t something that can be “overpowered”.

Ronah.2869:

The reason i am not buying any pick from the gem store is because they deleted one of my comments in here and got myself an infraction point proving that what i said was right.

Dude, my ENTIRE inbox is infractions and deletions. That’s a silly reason.

Geotherma.2395:

I have 11 alts, I bought one. Enjoying the volcanic animation as I play ^^ I don’t need my other 10 alts farming ore. Cheap $10 purchase, can’t wait to see more cool animated items ideas from anet.

I remember when people were saying this would break the game and bla bla bla. Ugh.

I bought one of these first chance I got. I even bought extra gems so I could get some BLkeys, and I managed to get 4 more keys out of the chests after I used my last purchased key.

Bravo for this, now I can free up a bunch of slots and never have to check on my numbers or grade of mining too.

Molten sickle and axe now pls? =)

WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

Is all I see in this thread. I’m sure those two hours are going to make a WORLD of difference.

Wow, a bunch of people quit and then came back for THIS?!

I’m finding it hard to believe people are on GW2 hiatus and it’s not even a year yet.

DarksunG.9537:

Warlander.1384:

Can someone explain the point im missing ?

Fun. You’re missing the fun & replacing it with stringent fantasy “rules” for no reason.

I tried SAB for 20 minutes and there was nothing fun and everything frustrating about it.

It sounds like a lot of you people would enjoy free realms if you enjoy junk like this.

gennyt.3428:

And what did this comment bring to the table exactly?

About as much as each and every one of these “bored at level 80 posts.”

How can people seriously not know what to do?

Jazzabelle.6531:

LMAO Benty I love your sense of humour pity a LOT MORE of the people who read the thread couldn’t see it.

Yes you are very right the whiners do their thing and after a bit the game developers just say k that’s it, I’m done, they never appreciate it. I personally am loving the addition of the Adventure Box its such a fun thing to do.

I totally love that the dev’s take the time to almost every month put in something new to keep us entertained. I don’t always really enjoy the new content but they can’t please everyone just so long as they please some of us its all good.

As a long time gaming person I don’t understand the crying about OMG they might increase the cap because not so long back NO game was released at full cap. Lvls were always released over time so Im all good with new lvls being added. New lvls means new content etc and new goals to make and achieve

Raising level cap doesn’t mean new content, new content means new content.

They just have to design the content for low mid or high/endgame. 20 levels worked just fine in gw1.

Nightarch.2943:

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I love chaos and dynamics, the things that make guild wars what it is. This game holds a special place in my heart since it is an ever changing world, the thing mmo-gamers really strive for.

You are aware that gw1 never changed right? More like never changing.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

I see what you did there.
This is the daily mount thread, isn’t it?

I lolled.

Jemmi.6058:

ophidic.1279:

ScrakeMode.2348:

Snow White.9680:

While I appreciate the cutesy clouds and terrible graphics are supposed to trigger a nostalgic response from me and make this new content fun, I can really only say 1 thing..

If I wanted to play a mario, I’d be playing mario.

I want to play Guild wars 2. Please spend your resources on content for that game.

Hey op if you don’t kitten-ing want to play it you don’t have to stop posting this kitten on the forums about resources it’s a holiday event that is new and interesting for people that love jumping puzzles people like you make A-NET not want to do anything new and fun because people criticize them so much for fun holiday events that they have. TLDR GTFO if you want to kitten about a holiday event it may relate to mario but it’s not to get the hell out of here

Like i said… no one is permitted to disagree with the jumping puzzles.

I can’t wait til I can play a game of sudoku for some weapon skins. That’d be ok right? Because sudoku is fun and how dare you question fun?!

One can disagree with Jumping Puzzles, just as much as they can disagree with everything. However, a valid response is if you do not like it, don’t do it. i.e. Do not like Dungeons? Don’t do them. Do not like PvP? Don’t do them. Don’t like Fractals? Don’t do them. However, if you have constructive criticism to improve any aspect, then please provide it.

I personally do not like sodoku, but if you do that’s great. If they added a soduku mini game that gave weapon skins, you would not hear me complaining.

Yeah I guess. I’m just sick of seeing them.

Thinking back to some of the GW1 events, they felt more like a party imo.

I don’t feel that so much with holidays in GW2. Instead of literally jumping through hoops for items, we should be chilling in town and goofing off, playing with whatever holiday toys they put in town, and a costume piece relevant to the holiday.

That’s the best holiday event, and honestly I miss it a lot.

Also there used to be the event… and then THE MAIN EVENT which repeated every 3-4 hours, mad king, grenth/dwayna, etc…

It kinda gives the holiday a climax or pinnacle of sorts, rather than just “do it if you feel like”.

pownguin.9205:

You do realize you’re basically doing a guild wars 2 dungeon that just has jumping puzzles and looks different, right? They aren’t wasting resources.

This would be better if it was more like a proper dungeon IMO. Maybe something like a permanent fixture, but more subtle, (like with no SAB mobs in regular game world.)