Guild Wars 2

Didn’t they just say that turrets are getting patched?

neodome.7401:

2.) As we saw with Scarlet its hard to get everyone to work together. Time will tell how the timer will work but this will be interesting to see if servers and everyone will split and actually achieve each role needed to defeat the boss.

Scarlet proved that once the content has been out for a week, if it’s popular enough, everyone will pretty much know how to run it consistently. By the end of Clockwork Chaos, every invasion i went to have people coordinating against aetherblades and molten shamans to farm in very efficient ways. By the time that patch was over, everyone pretty much had the routine down.

rjnemer.7816:

I dont want to rain on everybody’s parade but nothing in the open world will ever be challenging. The two cannot co-exist. Challenging content can only come from an instance.

Balthazar and Grenth events would like to have a word with you. Do-able, but definitely failable.

Since this is permanent and not a temp LS, upscalling isn’t really an issue since you’ll get to the appropriate level needed to do the event someday, just like every other piece of permanent content in the game.

Ascended, since i’m not really interested in any of the legendary skins and i know they’re going to make more skins that i’ll want to use that aren’t legendary anyway.

The hilarious irony of this thread is that when SAB was announced to come back i thought “now all those people on the boards who constantly kitten that there is no solo content will finally be placated with an update that is more solo than group oriented”.

LMAO. I guess some people cannot be pleased.

I imagine that if Anet sent certain posters on these boards a suitcase full of thousand dollar bills, they would kitten and moan about the color of the suitcase.

I would even settle for it just to be vendorable!

So much bloodstone dust, and it seems like a waste of obsidian at this point making a stack of the bricks.

Maybe we can get some mystic forge recipes that require a few stacks of dust?? How about a recipe that transmutes them into other ascended mats so that people who don’t want to do X content for some of other parts can blow money or other things instead?

I just made my second deldrimor steel ingot, and when i deposited collectibles, it doesn’t show up in my collection. Currently, it only shows 1 between my bags and collection total.

So far, we’ve seen most of the limited time weapons skins come back, albeit at an incredibly inflated cost in the form of multiple black lion chest tickets (fused, sclerite, etc). Some of the halloween skins where there very first RNG items derived from BLCs to gain incredible value and rarity on the TP as the year progressed, and a few have gone for hundreds of gold.

Since we haven’t seen them come back at the black lion weapon vendor i’m wondering, are they going to come back and be as widely available as they were last year, drastically undercutting their current value? It seems like a different case from other limited items like fused, since anyone who originally had them didn’t have a monetary investment on account bound skins.

It’s been said that craftable weapons like Mad Moon are coming back in some form with new recipes but are rare and valuable skins like the scythe, the Ghastly Grinning Shield and Greatsaw coming back in a mode as accessible as last year?

This thread’s title is quite ironic. If the devs were “dodging the bullet”, as per the figure of speech, they would be narrowly avoiding disaster. To tell them to stop dodging the bullet is essentially to tell them to kitten up and fail.

I’m seeing some awesome ideas in this thread. My list, right now is:

- A mad king weapons set with the crazy jack-o-lantern aesthetic
- A haunted house dungeon.
- Halloween mask to collect! One for the achievements, some to craft and maybe some in the gem store!

Tachenon.5270:

So. Where’s the stuff I loved about Guild Wars in Guild Wars 2? That’s what I’m asking for. That’s what might make this player happy.

In the context of this thread though, does this change make GW2 less like GW?

They would make a ton if they did this

this would be sweet. They’d have to already have it pretty far along to be included this year though

Rezz.8019:

panzer.6034:

krixis.9538:

just farm

Kinda disappointed that this is what is considered “new content” instead of more dungeons, events, boss, etc.

Adventure box is the new content. This is just something extra.

I guess maybe i should have qualified that as “permanent content”. Not sure how of a chance i’ll get to see the SAB this month.

far more players are going to experience tequatl far more often than zhaitan

krixis.9538:

just farm

Kinda disappointed that this is what is considered “new content” instead of more dungeons, events, boss, etc.

Tawa.3180:

Asuras blew up the concept of traditional sword and sorcery fantasy the moment GW2 started.

You mean when they came to the surface with robots in GW1?

auratus.9854:

Lemme help you…

Uh. Yeah. Still seeing the most conservative version of “sexy” imaginable.

Giant bed sheet covering the legs? Check.

Most conservative armor sets ever in an MMO. Check.

Rotfl that this is an issue. Check.

Pennry.9215:

Yea, my child wearing a My Little Pony backpack totally ruins school and absolutely no learning could ever happen because of it. Oh and he has a pencil with an Mario eraser… Oh the humanity!

And there’s drug dealers and murder and war in Syria in the real world! It’s completely incompatible with My Little Pony backpacks! They can’t exist in the same reality!

Lafiel.9372:

Besides isn’t that how traditional MMOs ran anyways, most mmos didn’t pump content out every month or even every 2 months. Expansions were release once every year if you’re lucky. Playerbase shouldn’t be determined by future content, but that current content is SOLID and that players enjoy and continue to enjoy playing it. And this doesn’t mean end game grinding gear for years is the answer.

They definitely need more solid content, i just don’t think relying on console-style story telling is the way to go. It would cost too much to do it right, ala Mass Effect, and players would chew through it too fast. Challenging, interesting and repeatable gameplay is the avenue to look down, IMO.

Evans.6347:

panzer.6034:

Evans.6347:

Anything but the return of the Greatsaw ¬.¬

I concur, but only so i can continue to go for weeks at a time without seeing anyone else using it and still get whispers asking me where i got something so awesome

How egocentric!
Yea me too!

[/secret order of the greatsaw handshake]

auratus.9854:

“Honor the spirits” with furs or whatever is totally fine for me. Showing “We dont fear anything”, too. But WHY THE UNDIES must be visible?
http://argos-soft.net/GW2ArmorGallery/index.php?weight=3&race=3&color=0&sex=1&armorSet=culthadi

Sorry, can’t see the undies under that giant kitten curtain. Don’t worry, GW2 will continue to be the most aesthetically conservative MMO around.

Evans.6347:

Anything but the return of the Greatsaw ¬.¬

I concur, but only so i can continue to go for weeks at a time without seeing anyone else using it and still get whispers asking me where i got something so awesome

Grumwulf.9602:

I think a lot of these don’t really care about fantasy or about RPGs, they just love the virtual values and mouse wheels of an MMO. I think this is fine. But I thought GW2 was going to be a really good fantasy RPG and I am disappointed and I am becoming rather tired of the game.

Spoiler: Video games aren’t ever “real” rpgs, even when they’re given that misnomer.

Whenever i read a dev say something is supposed to be ridiculously difficult i think of their comments about dungeons before the game launched, as well as the Candidate Trials. lol.

jakakettu.9083:

panzer.6034:

jakakettu.9083:

“When you see art in our game – you say: Whoa that’s Visually stunning. I’ve never seen anything like that before.” – Colin Johanson – Game designer

This is exactly what everyone thought when they saw the SAB stuck into guild wars. It seemed radically different from what other games are doing.

You can’t speak for everyone, only few probably thought it was “stunning” If someone finds SAB visually stunning that’s their opinion but I think that this style is no where close to being stunning or anything special. The style is just pixels – pixels what the gaming community has been seeing since the beginning of gaming.

Obviously a lot of people thought it was stunning considering everyone posts nothing but hate on these boards and yet SAB has been the only thing to receive an overwhelmingly positive response. And it’s not that the pixel style is unique or innovative in a vacuum, it’s “stunning” in how it’s juxtaposed to the default style of the game. A pixelated GS isn’t particularly special in an 8 bit game but when you stick one in with unique effects into a modern game like GW, it becomes something a bit more special.

auratus.9854:

So click on your own please…
Lol. Thats it? Check the cultural with string-tanga and that carpet around the legs!

You mean the most conservative “skimpy” armor anyone has ever put in an MMO? What about the 99% other armors that cover everything? If anything, this game could use some skimpy options.

jakakettu.9083:

“When you see art in our game – you say: Whoa that’s Visually stunning. I’ve never seen anything like that before.” – Colin Johanson – Game designer

This is exactly what everyone thought when they saw the SAB stuck into guild wars. It seemed radically different from what other games are doing.

Lafiel.9372:

Anet needs to play some decent console games and learn how to present their story better. The techniques are interchangeable.

I hear that SWOR has the best story telling of any MMO ever made precisely because it was high end and done very much like single player rpgs. The big downfall there is that it takes a ton of time to put out high end content like that and you lose your playerbase by the time more of your high end content is ready for release. Anet has said that they arrived at their 2 week schedule because the data showed that that is how long it takes for interest to drop off and for people to start logging in less. If the content was done in the manner of high end, single player console games, they’d lose people like crazy as they waited months for new stuff.

Sollith.3502:

Also, there is quite a bit of groundwork for a scientific foundation for the technology in the game.

Just because “magic” isn’t explained in detail, doesn’t mean that it can’t be scientific;

Quite true, and this is the logical trap that a lot of fantasy falls into. If you have people who understand magic, can control magic and can use it to create repeatable, predictable results, then magic is reduced to being no more than an alternate universe’s physics and is quite literally the science of the given setting.

In Tyria, we clearly have thousands of people running around throwing out predictable, repeatable magical effects, logically reducing “magic” to the same function of turning on a computer or using a smart phone in the real world. These folks are simply using the natural laws of their reality to accomplish tasks in the exact same manner as we do in our world. Harnessing the laws of nature through observation and creating repeatable results IS science, whether you’re creating transistors in California or throwing out your 1,000th identical fireball in Tyria.

Once we understand that in a setting such as Tyria that magic is literally just another name for the science of that universe (observing the laws of nature and utilizing them to produce a repeatable result) then it only stands to reason that intelligent people are going to utilize magic/science to create technology, which is really just the practical application of knowledge. When people can produce repeatable, predictable results through magic/science, they are going to make vehicles to transport goods and people more efficiently, they are going to create ways to make more food, they are going to make labor easier, they are going to make artificial light all over the place, and so on…

What would NOT make sense, and what you see lots of “fantasy” purists argue for, is to have magic be this thing that people in various cultures can use to produce for predictable, repeatable results and yet somehow have no one actually utilize that knowledge to do anything productive to enhance quality of life for society as a whole.

And technically, the argument that “oh 250 years has passed” doesn’t really work all that well lol. The Romans had many advances over other groups in that area during that period of time and then look what happened: they still fell and then the dark ages… =/

Though that doesn’t really apply here since there was no fall or destruction of the the technologically advanced culture in this case. Asura’s popped out 250 years ago with robots and teleportation so, if anything, we should see and even broader spread of tech all over the place.

Part of the SAB’s appeal is it’s unique juxtaposition to the rest of the content. If it were it’s own release on steam, i’m sure no one would give it a second glance but in the context of a semi-serious, modern MMO, it’s inclusion ends up being particularly novel and innovative for just how much it stands out.

i haven’t logged in, but i was reading that something has happened to the prices because of speculation. Is that the devaluation the OP is talking about?

auratus.9854:

…how do they look like? http://argos-soft.net/GW2ArmorGallery/index.php?sex=1&weight=3&race=3&color=0
Some tit_ties there, some string tanga there…Ye and belly free of course! Where did you get these great armor ideas from? These are supposed to be warriors and guardians, no underwear models!

Uhhh…did you actually look at that link? 99% skin coverage. Since when does “covered from head to toe” = “underwear model”?

I doubt it. I’m sure the dungeon weapons will remain plain ol’ level 80 exotics. Anet seems to like to tinker with legendaries but doesn’t really care about messing with more common skins like dungeon gear.

Why would they be phased out any more than any other level 80 gear? You’ll craft ascended weapons, then transmute, just like every other skin.

They’ve said recently that their number of active players is going UP. No need to freak out about the game dying anytime soon because they’re obviously doing something right .

The new “dungeon” is cute but short, forgettable and laughably easy.

Terra Dactyl.2047:

panzer.6034:

Shinya.8014:

I’m talking in the character select. You klnow where you choose which one you’d like to play. The norn female is tiny compared to the male!!

human looking women aren’t allowed to stray too far from the barbie mold.

I don’t recall barbie ever having abs of steel, bulging biceps, or face tattoos… Which barbie was that?

lol. Barbie + slight abdominals is still a barbie (now where are you seeing bulging biceps??) next to her male counterpart, the hulk. kitten, I train girls with bigger arms than a GW2 norn woman.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Edit PS: I also have a deep-rooted love for asymmetric shoulder skins, probably from my history of playing archers in other games.

As an aside, i’m always amused when people complain about asymmetrical armor in the context of “real armor”. In real life, there’s been tons of asymmetrical armor for reasons as varied as archery and jousting.

Daecollo.9578:

Nobody else wants to complete the set and have cybernetic armor?

I would.

I already have a sort of industrial looking vibe to my set and someone a few days ago actually whispered me about my “cybernetic” set. Aeitherblade shoulders + gloves, jetpack and the greatsaw for exhaust pipes.

Galtrix.7369:

I could’ve gone on and on, but I think you get my point. All of the patches are nearly identical with minimal changes throughout all of the patches, yet you tell me you didn’t visit a single unimportant person or press F 200 times for rewards. Right.

Welcome to the world of video games. Some look almost like real rpgs at first glance, but involve doing a lot of repetitive kitten over and over with a different coat of paint.

akamon.2769:

a golden, steampunk, aether, egyptian (what the sovereign skins remind me of) necro? :OOO

definitly a first.

Not egyptian, art deco, man. Art deco!

Rama.6439:

panzer.6034:

They need some make SOME ascended backpacks available other places, definitely.

You are able to make ascended back pieces in the forge, just check wiki, the T3 frac capacitor is a symbol of hard work and respect for the both the person wearing it and the place in represents. imho.

Yeah, i have the fully upgraded fractal back myself as well as 4 other ascended back pieces. Each one took at least one mist item from fractals though, and i understand other people don’t want to do fractals just to have the max stats.

dronzer.8392:

panzer.6034:

Idk if i’ll use any of them, but they are clearly Art Deco in origin.

Yeah it’s something you’d hang on a wall or a stand, like those Japanese Samurai Swords.

I saw the shield and thought it was awesome, not because i would use it but because it looked like someone broke it off of the empire state building.

One connection that may be nothing… the Art Deco stuff and the female robots remind me of Metropolis. I wonder if Queen Jenna may turn out to be Queen Maria?

Bovinity.8610:

Asura – and Pact by association – tech is way beyond that. It’s like Future-Earth stuff. It’s nothing like the early versions of guns on earth that were so bad that people often still stuck to swords and bows for a while, so that comparison makes no sense. A lot of it is straight out of Star Trek…energy shields, teleporters, phasers or whatever those superlasers are.

Didn’t the Asura come out of the ground with robots and teleportation in EotN way back in GW1, 250 years ago? In that case, how long would it take for a civilization to get to airships and mega lasers? We don’t know since there is no real world analog here and the stuff you’re having issue with is already hundreds of years old.

That level of technology just makes no sense in this setting. Especially when you have other nations that are supposedly legitimate powers in the world, despite the fact that their military powers are still having issues with Centaurs and Bandits and such.

One word: magic. Everyone except the charr seems to have big-kitten -magic (B.A.M.!) that competes with technology, making any “sense” about who is most powerful completely up in the air. Apparently Queen Jenna, for instance, is strong enough to defeat dragons herself and could probably wipe out an army. Her people fight primitive centaurs, but apparently their champs summon tornadoes and such.

The whole “one side has so much technology that no one could be a threat!” logic works for real life (somewhat) but doesn’t hold any water in a fantasy setting where magic can do anything.

Bovinity.8610:

As for lasers, airships, and robots co-existing with dagger-wielding bandits robbing farms and tribal hut-centaurs… you see some of that in real life. There are groups of humans who still live in tribal societies, build huts, and hunt with spears.

The difference being that Industralized nations aren’t freaking out because a tribe of spear-wielding hunters is about to destroy the world with their mighty power.

Right. Because an industrialized nation would never freak out and send an army to a country where people live in caves and shepherd goats…oh wait.

That said, in GW2 the more primitive cultures are still a threat because of magic. I mean, look at the centaur and their primitive lifestyle, then look at their leaders with their giant fire tornadoes and 50 foot tall stone hands that come out of the ground. Some factions are a threat in this game because of tech (charr) while others are a world power because of magic (Queen Jenna is super saiyan 4).

They need some make SOME ascended backpacks available other places, definitely.

Idk if i’ll use any of them, but they are clearly Art Deco in origin.

I don’t know about you, but i average killing at least 3 dragons a day in this game.