Guild Wars 2

So many “Cheese” classes now, I bet it’s safe to say playing WvW is cheese at this stage.

Fights that last an hour lol

I strongly dislike PvE…

The new map however is actually kind of fun. The endless gliding on a small map while White Mantle try to shoot you down is good fun, ontop of how kitten it looks to pewpew enemies down while gliding.

Saiyan.1704:

sephiroth.4217:

Do dance parties count as Match Manipulation?

According to Anet, you can report him for Botting due to “unacceptable player behavior”. That goes for players who AFK and deliberately trolls.

Never heard of a single person getting kicked or banned through the Botting report though… i’m curious if it even works.

Well the game was over if you looked at the score but I constantly throw dance parties towards the end of a game when it’s a complete blow out.

Lightens the mood, stops my team from the “hahas” and “git guds” and stops thier team from getting depressed over the blowout lol

Do dance parties count as Match Manipulation?

Many reasons to not PvP:

1: HotM is in a time suspension, there is no character progression no matter how long you play and character progression is needed to stay on par with other players in the same game.

2: Anything skillful about PvP is being replaced by passives.

3. So many Passives.

4. Sitting in long kitten ques, to fight a 4v5 and somehow manage to grind up ranks has no accomplishment outside of your own value, there is no badge to show your achievements in the never ending game that is Fashion Wars.

5. Classes are either FORCED into builds or are considered unhealthy for the team.

6. For loot based players, lack of loot.

7. For skill based players, the MMR gives matches that are too lopsided.

Best reasons to PvP:

There is a bank, merchant and trading post next to each other near a waypoint, convenient right?

So basically don’t flip anything on an enemy server if you don’t want them to gain PPT?

I’m probably missing something but this idea feels problematic for the WvW structure.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

sephiroth.4217:

I like Rangers in WvW… They usually play zerk longbow and make it a really easy kill for me while I try to learn thief.

Like legit, I get rolled by all sorts of classes, but killing a ranger is always a sure way to rub my ego back into place.

Need more rangers!

I feel the same about killing Thieves. Because 95% of them are too slow or too stupid to avoid QZ + RF. Two shot a Thief not a few hours ago with two 6k Counterattack as well because apparently holding a huge sword over my face and having an icon below my name showing that I’m blocking isn’t enough warning.

“Always assume your opponent is a genius until proven an idiot.”

But yeah I won’t lie a lot of Rangers are bad. Still, don’t get over confident. You might run in to someone who knows what they’re doing :P

Oh yea I do from time to time, If I can’t one hit the Ranger then I leave them. I’m really bad thief, like really bad. Comment was more a generalisation to the current META tho…

My ranger still rocks the s/d evasion build from 4 years ago lol… After 4 years they finally fixed that AA.

I muted the game and turned up Media player.

Too many random annoying sounds going on in the game, especially that Asura back piece that comments on everything.

I see all condition Mesmer players as players who gave up on real roaming. (power builds actually take skill and timing)

I have 3 Mesmers, one is condi/power hybrid and I only play that class once I’ve had enough of being rolled by other condi roamers, I hop off Ele or thief or what ever power build I’m using then go kill those people with my crappy cheesy hybrid Mes before logging off.

And I’m fairly certain I see some of those players switch from their class to a Mesmer too after they get rolled by conditions that punish you for moving or using skills, which has got to be one of the worst designs.

I like Rangers in WvW… They usually play zerk longbow and make it a really easy kill for me while I try to learn thief.

Like legit, I get rolled by all sorts of classes, but killing a ranger is always a sure way to rub my ego back into place.

Need more rangers!

BlaqueFyre.5678:

sephiroth.4217:

Svarty.8019:

sephiroth.4217:

I might be missing something but doesn’t Ranger, Engie, Ele, Thief with steal have water blast and mes/nec/engie/thief have stealth leaving Rev/War/Guard as your subpar classes?

In which case you would be right as Guard is kinda supportive to other classes by means of boons while the Warrior and Rev has it’s DPS builds.

I’m interested in this necro stealth. Tell me more.

I don’t even…. Know… How….

Slippery Nec.

But anyway back to the point. Is there something I’m missing? (besides a slippery necro)

You forget DH has access to stealth so that leaves Rev and War as the Subpar by Op logic.

With traps yea and I realised that slippery Nec was meant to be Ranger, so by default I think Ranger is the best “APEX” class because it has stealth and water and blast?

Svarty.8019:

sephiroth.4217:

I might be missing something but doesn’t Ranger, Engie, Ele, Thief with steal have water blast and mes/nec/engie/thief have stealth leaving Rev/War/Guard as your subpar classes?

In which case you would be right as Guard is kinda supportive to other classes by means of boons while the Warrior and Rev has it’s DPS builds.

I’m interested in this necro stealth. Tell me more.

I don’t even…. Know… How….

Slippery Nec.

But anyway back to the point. Is there something I’m missing? (besides a slippery necro)

I might be missing something but doesn’t Ranger, Engie, Ele, Thief with steal have water blast and mes/nec/engie/thief have stealth leaving Rev/War/Guard as your subpar classes?

In which case you would be right as Guard is kinda supportive to other classes by means of boons while the Warrior and Rev has it’s DPS builds.

It would be nice if a Dev could comment about this topic.

The only build I’m enjoying in PvP at the moment is perma resistance/quickness build…

I’m used to support roles, getting in peoples faces and forcing people to focus me is my style of play and warrior is all I have left for that now.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

sephiroth.4217:

Shared inventory slot could be like the level 80 boost that we got, a separate shared inventory slot that stacks on top of what we have already purchased because there is no limit.

There’s no limit that we know of. But, that’s what I figured you meant, which should be sufficient.

sephiroth.4217:

And there’s always a use for shared inventory slots

While I agree with you on this, I know many that don’t. Like the people that complained about getting the free one with the booster. “One slot is useless” kind of complaints. Not the “let me move this out of my way” complaints.

sephiroth.4217:

When I meant unique skins I kinda meant like the dragon we got for the security set up.. You can only get that dragon by doing that, so maybe something similar.

Unfortunately unless its a set of items which we either can select 1 of or get 1 at random, we’d just end up with the Queen Jenna issue all over again.

sephiroth.4217:

Good points about Gems and gold, honestly that idea only came from Big Achievement chests n stuff we already get.

That’s what I thought of too when you put them in the list, which seemed fine at first blush. Then I considered potentially how many people would be getting those items at the same time and what the influx of those items could potentially do (and cringed).

I actually mulled this crap over at work today… Turns out I am very happy with the Dyes for a selection, knowing Anet hands out ingame things that would cost lots of money is another good reason to not spend money on the game and just be patient, just like I was grinning Ghastly shield and a few other things.

And to be fair, I was very happy about the other things, even if they were just bugs like fractal weapon chests on the TP or a few legacy armors here and there. (which I still have because I already bought the skins from gem store… lol)

brannigan.9831:

serj.8214:

sephiroth.4217:

serj.8214:

sephiroth.4217:

Reaper Alim.4176:

serj.8214:

You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL

Well in sPvP players get alot of very nice rewards and such. With the absolutely minimal effort, just for showing up in sPvP. So he don’t even want to put any effort towards earning Hero Points as well.

Me personally got 7 out of my 9 elite specs. from HoT land can go from 0 to 250 in less then 3 hours per a toon, and if you bring a friend or two along under a hour and 30 minutes.

If you don’t want to WvW or PvE what do you want the hero points for anyways? I smell a successful bait thread at work here. WvW before hero points was account wide could take upto 10 to 20 hours per a character.

If you want hero points just for showing up in sPvP. Fine you can have them only if I can get a legendary back piece for just doing WvW, which requires much much more work and effort to progress through the reward tracks then in sPvP. It’s only fair right?

It’s not about being lazy or minimal effort, it’s about playing a game for fun, because its a game.

Not everyone thinks grinding = content and fun.

Hero points can be earned in every aspect of the game except PvP so it’s a fair request to ask for a HP reward track. Not exactly sure how you managed to bring the Ascension into this as that is a skin and not a class mechanic.

It takes no effort to progress WvW, just afk in the keep so that’s a really bad example ontop of the argument of people progressing to level 80 dragon in PvE world that’s also a really bad example because PVP ranks only gives finishers and loot, therefor it’s classified as cosmetic, and not class mechanics.

I personally would not care if someone else got 10 hero points for doing PvP, especially if it was tied to champ titles or reward tracks or even if it was just 1 HP per win.

I dont see any grind in collecting HP dont mess up things. If someone dont like pve\wvw and still wants HP its their problem. Mb i want fractal weapon skins in reward track, I simply go and farm fractals yeah its not so fun for me but if I want some skins I know dat I need some farm to do.

I didn’t realise fractal weapons came with extra skills? I thought they were just cosmetic?

You didnt realise what I said, Im talking dat as it is now ppl trying all content bcs they want smtng but if we could get every skin\weapon\backpiece\hp\etc in every mode pvp\wvw\pve\fractals then player base will be separated in those groups pvp\pve\wvw and then Anet will need to rebalance speed of how fast ppl can achieve what they want.

You don’t seem to understand that allowing people to earn everything they want doing a particular game mode they enjoy actually helps the game and other game modes in it. I might be convinced to do more pve and WvWvW if I could make my character competitive in those modes by doing spvp only. Since I can’t I won’t play those modes. Many of people are like me.

I understood what you said but you’re arguing cosmetics over class mechanics…. You might aswell say McDonalds has the best pizzas in town.

I’m 100% for grinding certain aspects of certain game modes for certain cosmetics, a set up like this is needed for all players to show off their achievements.

What we’re trying to say though is that class mechanics should be available to those who play PvP, the whole concept of Elites was character progression by playing your character but yet in PvP you could play your character for 2000 hours and progress no where as opposed to a new player unlocking everything in 3 hours because he followed a HoT train and spammed 1.

Just like ol’mate said, it’s hard to enjoy these other aspects of the game when you you’re already behind the rest of the group, All the classes I have unlocked so far out of my 24 toons have all been WvW build focused characters, support Ele, support guard and so forth… I can’t play support builds into PvE without getting flamed so I don’t.

People are right, you don’t need HP in PvP, that’s because it’s trying to level the playing field as much as possible, and that’s called balancing… Is it fair that a players progression is hindered by a faulty game design around balancing? no it’s not.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

sephiroth.4217:

Shared inventory slots.
Unique skins only available through birthday gifts.
Unique dyes only available through birthday gifts.
Unique Minipets only available through birthday gifts.
Gems
Gold

I’d be fine with any of these personally; however, there are things that need to be taken into consideration:

sephiroth.4217:

Shared inventory slots.

Would these still work for people at their max purchasable slots or would it be a “dead gift” for them (ie, can’t use it due to being maxed out)? If so, how many people would this affect? (cause you know, like the OP, they’d be on here up in arms)

Even if it didn’t count against the max slots (like I don’t think the booster slot did), you know there would still be people upset about getting one because they “have no use” for it.

sephiroth.4217:

Unique skins only available through birthday gifts.
Unique dyes only available through birthday gifts.
Unique Minipets only available through birthday gifts.

Any of these would be awesome, but I feel they would absolutely have to be trade-able. First, because there would likely be a modicum of rng involved in what you got (like the original GW1 bday minis). Second, depending on how many are in the set (which I’m assuming would be yearly, like the old minis), and potentially your luck with RNG, you may not necessarily have enough alts to collect them all without being able to trade.

sephiroth.4217:

Gems
Gold

Gems I could see, maybe, but if they went that route, I can’t see it being more than like 400 gems so as not to affect either their bottom line or the in game economy.

Gold, I think is even less likely than Gems, imo. If we got gold, it would have to be a pittance so as not to harm the economy in any fashion, as well.

Shared inventory slot could be like the level 80 boost that we got, a separate shared inventory slot that stacks on top of what we have already purchased because there is no limit. And there’s always a use for shared inventory slots until they fix the rip off that is “buy a bag slot for 1 character for 400 gems”.

When I meant unique skins I kinda meant like the dragon we got for the security set up.. You can only get that dragon by doing that, so maybe something similar. Doesn’t need to be something in a set, just something to say “hey, I’m still here after 4 years”, sadly picking a dye doesn’t give that satisfaction.

Good points about Gems and gold, honestly that idea only came from Big Achievement chests n stuff we already get.

Obviously these are ideas, but the dye pack for a gift was mostly due to Electro dye kits, they needed to bring the prices down from over 1000g per electro dye so the gift itself was for economic reasons, not because we’re valued long time customers.

serj.8214:

sephiroth.4217:

Reaper Alim.4176:

serj.8214:

You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL

Well in sPvP players get alot of very nice rewards and such. With the absolutely minimal effort, just for showing up in sPvP. So he don’t even want to put any effort towards earning Hero Points as well.

Me personally got 7 out of my 9 elite specs. from HoT land can go from 0 to 250 in less then 3 hours per a toon, and if you bring a friend or two along under a hour and 30 minutes.

If you don’t want to WvW or PvE what do you want the hero points for anyways? I smell a successful bait thread at work here. WvW before hero points was account wide could take upto 10 to 20 hours per a character.

If you want hero points just for showing up in sPvP. Fine you can have them only if I can get a legendary back piece for just doing WvW, which requires much much more work and effort to progress through the reward tracks then in sPvP. It’s only fair right?

It’s not about being lazy or minimal effort, it’s about playing a game for fun, because its a game.

Not everyone thinks grinding = content and fun.

Hero points can be earned in every aspect of the game except PvP so it’s a fair request to ask for a HP reward track. Not exactly sure how you managed to bring the Ascension into this as that is a skin and not a class mechanic.

It takes no effort to progress WvW, just afk in the keep so that’s a really bad example ontop of the argument of people progressing to level 80 dragon in PvE world that’s also a really bad example because PVP ranks only gives finishers and loot, therefor it’s classified as cosmetic, and not class mechanics.

I personally would not care if someone else got 10 hero points for doing PvP, especially if it was tied to champ titles or reward tracks or even if it was just 1 HP per win.

I dont see any grind in collecting HP dont mess up things. If someone dont like pve\wvw and still wants HP its their problem. Mb i want fractal weapon skins in reward track, I simply go and farm fractals yeah its not so fun for me but if I want some skins I know dat I need some farm to do.

I didn’t realise fractal weapons came with extra skills? I thought they were just cosmetic?

Reaper Alim.4176:

sephiroth.4217:

Reaper Alim.4176:

serj.8214:

You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL

Well in sPvP players get alot of very nice rewards and such. With the absolutely minimal effort, just for showing up in sPvP. So he don’t even want to put any effort towards earning Hero Points as well.

Me personally got 7 out of my 9 elite specs. from HoT land can go from 0 to 250 in less then 3 hours per a toon, and if you bring a friend or two along under a hour and 30 minutes.

If you don’t want to WvW or PvE what do you want the hero points for anyways? I smell a successful bait thread at work here. WvW before hero points was account wide could take upto 10 to 20 hours per a character.

If you want hero points just for showing up in sPvP. Fine you can have them only if I can get a legendary back piece for just doing WvW, which requires much much more work and effort to progress through the reward tracks then in sPvP. It’s only fair right?

It’s not about being lazy or minimal effort, it’s about playing a game for fun, because its a game.

Not everyone thinks grinding = content and fun.

Hero points can be earned in every aspect of the game except PvP so it’s a fair request to ask for a HP reward track. Not exactly sure how you managed to bring the Ascension into this as that is a skin and not a class mechanic.

It takes no effort to progress WvW, just afk in the keep so that’s a really bad example ontop of the argument of people progressing to level 80 dragon in PvE world that’s also a really bad example because PVP ranks only gives finishers and loot, therefor it’s classified as cosmetic, and not class mechanics.

I personally would not care if someone else got 10 hero points for doing PvP, especially if it was tied to champ titles or reward tracks or even if it was just 1 HP per win.

Well I didn’t bring up Ascension, I said a Legendary back piece, because you know a item where you can change the stats on the fly is way more helpful to a WvWers then a sPvP who don’t need the stats.

Also you must don’t really play WvW, if at all. If you try just sitting in a keep and get kicked out of squad, you’ll earn one more maybe two more rewards from track. Even while out there actively roaming or soloing rewards track rewards in WvW are much slower to come by then, simple afking during a sPvP match.

I just want a Legendary Back Piece item to be available for WvWers, just like it is in grindfest sPvPers. Just like you want Hero Points that you’ll, actually will not use if you truely hate WvW and PvE. But I know ANet will not give us WvWers that soo yeah, good luck on those hero points.

I wouldn’t protest against the idea of a WvW legendary backpiece option because it opens up more options, I’m not against progression or anyone acquiring what they want in a game. I don’t see the difference between building a legendary or buying a legendary nor do I care how others acquired thiers, people are happy which mean the game is one step closer to thriving.

All I do is WvW and PvP across 24 characters, it’s not very fun having 7000 hours up my sleeve and still only having a few character elites unlocked due to the slow grind of WxP. I used to be able to switch between any class I wanted for any build situation I needed for WvW.
You spoke as WvW took effort to progress the track but you caught on it’s the same as PvP. And you’re probably right I would get kicked out of a squad if I zerged.

I agree I want to see Legendary back piece or something for WvW too and I’ve never said I hated WvW, PvE maybe if gliding wasn’t so fun.

Jerus.4350:

alain.1659:

Bring back and rework the glamour mesmer, then see if there will be a boon problem.

Counter to mesmers with boonshare, mesmers with boonstrip >.<

This is the best idea for so many reasons. Mainly for making the Mesmer choose between which role to play and help defining the class in large scale.

Seera.5916:

Thelgar.7214:

Substance E.4852:

Thelgar.7214:

Substance E.4852:

Thelgar.7214:

Somehow “chose to max out their dyes” is being twisted into a reason to get left out of the best part of the birthday gift, like those people did something wrong which makes it justifiable to not consider rectifying the situation. The petty meanness of it is palpable.

No people just choose to not care about your rich kid problems. It’s not petty to not empathize with those who have more than you. It’s entitlement to assume you deserve empathy though.

There is a difference between not caring, and actively attempting to keep something from being done. And “entitlement” is Internet for “I don’t have a rational argument to make so I’ll use this word that i think makes people sound bad.”

Although, based on your post, maybe I’ve been confusing petty meanness with petty jealousy. Which I hope I’m not, because somehow that is even more pathetic.

Wut?

This is just a forum. We aren’t tipping off the devs to deny you a better “free gift”. It’s not our fault if you’re getting flummoxed at the lack of support to your cause or that people think it’s a waste of resources when Anet is clearly stretched thin enough as is.

I’m not flummoxed, though I appreciate the attempt to cast a negative aspersion on me by describing me as such. You get an A+ for oblique insults that won’t draw a mod response. I don’t have a cause, this isn’t my thread. And, if you read the OP, this thread is about asking the devs to not do something similar in the future. I’ve just been pointing out the incredibly poor reasoning being offered by posters in between “entitled” comments.

The OP made a simple post asking that this birthday gift not create the same situation as the last for anyone. And thus began the nonsense that it would be impossible and the string of objections to or in support of things not actually expressed in the thread. e.g. waste of resources when Anet is stretched thin, which was only mentioned by you now, that you said “people” think, but none mentioned in the thread.

The simple fact is there is no good reason to not consider that people might have all of something when creating something like the birthday gift, which a lot of people look forward to. And that is all the OP asked for.

That’s because it is nonsense to say that there is a solution that will please everyone. It is literally impossible to find a gift that will please everyone.

Shared inventory slots.
Unique skins only available through birthday gifts.
Unique dyes only available through birthday gifts.
Unique Minipets only available through birthday gifts.
Gems
Gold

Plenty of solutions floating around if people brainstormed rather than arguing over stupid kitten.

Gems and Gold isn’t all that exciting but atleast you get an infinite amount of options on where to invest it.

Reaper Alim.4176:

serj.8214:

You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL

Well in sPvP players get alot of very nice rewards and such. With the absolutely minimal effort, just for showing up in sPvP. So he don’t even want to put any effort towards earning Hero Points as well.

Me personally got 7 out of my 9 elite specs. from HoT land can go from 0 to 250 in less then 3 hours per a toon, and if you bring a friend or two along under a hour and 30 minutes.

If you don’t want to WvW or PvE what do you want the hero points for anyways? I smell a successful bait thread at work here. WvW before hero points was account wide could take upto 10 to 20 hours per a character.

If you want hero points just for showing up in sPvP. Fine you can have them only if I can get a legendary back piece for just doing WvW, which requires much much more work and effort to progress through the reward tracks then in sPvP. It’s only fair right?

It’s not about being lazy or minimal effort, it’s about playing a game for fun, because its a game.

Not everyone thinks grinding = content and fun.

Hero points can be earned in every aspect of the game except PvP so it’s a fair request to ask for a HP reward track. Not exactly sure how you managed to bring the Ascension into this as that is a skin and not a class mechanic.

It takes no effort to progress WvW, just afk in the keep so that’s a really bad example ontop of the argument of people progressing to level 80 dragon in PvE world that’s also a really bad example because PVP ranks only gives finishers and loot, therefor it’s classified as cosmetic, and not class mechanics.

I personally would not care if someone else got 10 hero points for doing PvP, especially if it was tied to champ titles or reward tracks or even if it was just 1 HP per win.

Nice signature!

“I already quit PvP. Just log on to troll here and there”

Great post!

10/10 would get b8ed again.

Roundabout.1752:

sephiroth.4217:

And you have to buy the bag at about 12g or so if you want to max out your bought bag slot for your one character.

Cheap 20 slot bags are easy to come by. Collections, Fractals and Corn cobs are just some of the easy ways to cheap bags, might check WvW I think you can get bags there too.

C-c-c-c-combo breaker!

(but yes you are correct, I wanted to say same thing too just havin fun on thread.)

Aury.1367:

Svarty.8019:

Aury.1367:

babazhook.6805:

Jeknar.6184:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

TexZero.7910:

babazhook.6805:

Orangensaft.7139:

i think it would be ok if applying conditions to an enemy reveals you

but if you then want to stealth again and the enemy has just 1 stack of bleeding that does 1 more tick while you are in stealthed and you would get revealed from that?
that would be nonsense

This would break the skill caltrops and uncatchable. Thief drops caltrops . Thief then Stealths . Enemy runs into caltrops field to reveal thief. If I am fighting a stealth thief and see those little red circles from uncatchable, I am running into them. I will take the bleed in return for a reveal.

In essence you eliminate traps caltrops and uncatchable from stealth thief builds as they become akin to the old last refuge and get thieves killed.

If I was a thief wanting to use stealth I would never select those skills .

Except that you are actively choosing to engage by placing down caltrops/traps. Uncatchable(trait) needs a rework period.

You should be forced to chose the relative safety of stealth, or the attack of opportunity provide from leaving stealth, not both at the same time as that leaves 0 room for counter-play outside of nuke at my feet and cleanse.

As hinted at earlier the problem is how stealth is implemented in the game. It’s silly and far too long lasting in most cases.

Same can be said about all the invulns being thrown around while still being able to damage players.

Nobody can be perma invulnrerable like a thief or mesmer can be perma stealthed. You comparission is silly.

And perma stealth acquired by the thief has nothing to do with caltrops or or uncatchable. The solution is a poor one and ill thought out for a class so relaint on stealth to survive.

Ah, so a thief in perma stealth killing me with traps and condi through steal who doesnt reveal ONE TIME isnt a problem? The stomp in stealth, I havent even seen the thief ONE TIME. Has it nothing to do with it? Seriously?

It’s nearly as bad as the mesmer who portals away at the start of a stomp and comes back at the end of it, so you can’t interrupt him/her.

I said stomp in stealth, not portal. Also this is the thing which is most unimportant since YOU ARE DOWN ALREADY. I just mentioned it since i dont even know which server that person is from since i NEVER see them. its perma stealth. I only see it in combat log.

I don’t get it.. Are you angry they stomp in stealth or are you angry you have no chance to interrupt the stomp?

Ele has mist form stomps (been since cantrip nerf since that was used a lot tho)
Engie has Elixer S, Elixer S on toolbelt I think, sneak gyro
Mes has stealth and Invuln from F4, the port stomp trick and staff 2 > blink.
Rev has passive stab spam
Guardian has focus 5 skill and f3
Thief has steal, shadowstep and initiative signet. (prob more)
Necro has spectral walk and flesh wurm (worm tucked away, spectral walk > flesh wurm port > spectral walk port back)
Ranger has stealth stomps too

I guess warrior just has to rely on stability and stances.

That’s a list of stomps that I know of that give you no chance unless you were an Ele or thief… Even then though a thief can still get stomped by well aimed blinks, steals and judges intervention and so can an Ele if the stomp and mist form animation was synced.

And you have to buy the bag at about 12g or so if you want to max out your bought bag slot for your one character.

I think the worst is Limited Finishers….

Gendou.9620:

I am pretty sure the last dye collection was awesome because it let me get like 6-7 100-300 gold dyes that I would have never bought. I’m confused where you got the impression that they made a mistake with birthday stuff and that they don’t consider the community?

He’s merely speaking up for people like myself who had collected all the dyes at very pricey sales only to have our 3rd birthday gift rendered useless by our own passionate playing of the game.

Or atleast thats how I read it… I still have 8 or so dye kits to use and nothing to use them on at the moment because I had already bought gems/gold to buy the dyes.

I think exclusive dyes (maybe fluorescent) or exclusive skins should be handed out, maybe an exclusive minipet? Something that’s only obtainable through recieving a birthday gift, something special.

Maybe it could even be something useful like a free shared inventory slot.

It depends on what you would call support….

Zerg busting / GvG / Raids – It’s usually the Ele, waterfields and so forth with Empower stack.

Pug zergs – Guardians for might stacks, boons, and small aoe heals

Small group roaming – Boon share Mesmer or Druid

1) Double Finisher

2-3) Winning a 1v2 match in PvP as a trap ranger after being called bad.

4-5) Hiding in a barrel with traps on point obstructing any range pressure.

I hate PvE.

New map is interesting, actually having fun, needed mastery point to progress with story, back to WvW.

Otherwise I would agree, new map almost converted me to PvE.

sophiewhite.3149:

im lvl 80 and i dont know what im supposed to be salvaging.

Nerfing boons would also mean a nerf to conditions…

Resistance helps power builds fight through all that weakness spam, while quickness helps fight against protection spam.

I’m all for nerfing it, just saying that we already have a dominant condition scene creeping in because right now it feels like you’re either playing a boon build or a condition build, removing one only leaves the other.

We all know there is not enough corruption and strips for the boons, while we also know there is not enough cleanses to keep up with HoT application of conditions.

tolunart.2095:

Aury.1367:

tolunart.2095:

Dear devs, paper is out of control, must nerf.

Sincerely, rock

Yep. There is no kittening scissor.

There’s offensive builds (zerker), defensive builds (bunker) and DOT builds (condi). From what I’ve read, each build is good against one and not so good against the other. You seem to be asking for Rock (bunker) to be able to shake off damage from both zerker bursts and condi DOTs. It may not be the best possible system, but they’ve set it up this way on purpose.

So what would you call a shaman apoth burn ranger with smokescale?

I don’t think GW2 has a Holy Trinity setup.

UmbraNoctis.1907:

Let’s buff protection to be 100% dmg immunity too. Shouldn’t be an issue, because long lasting immunities are totally fine and there is enough counterplay to boons anyway, right?

protection, weakness and frost Aura alone is 93% and if there is a Rev with Rite of the Dwarf or something? for another 50% damage reduction all of which are not effected by conditions because they reduce power damage.
Conditions also go through Aegis and various skill blocks too.

Now there is 1 boon that helps protect against conditions. One.

If anything I would like more sources of Resistance on lower duration

I have 4 Eles and I won’t use one in PvP, it hurts my team because there is another class who can do it better no matter what sort of build I want to play.

Don’t get me wrong, trolling unranked and baddies with marauders is fun and all but only so much trolling one can accomplish until 1 competent player ruins everything.

Preview Juggernaut effects on armor in wardrobe… So many wasted transmutation charges.

Ross Biddle.2367:

sephiroth.4217:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Why did you pick Lyssa rune instead of Leadership?

Leadership is 30% boon duration on it’s own.

Honestly, if you’re going to min/max and talk broken, you might aswell do it properly.

Ross Biddle.2367:

So I ran the setup (recorded it too)

It lacks damage. And I need that damage to put things like thieves on the ground immediately.

So yeah, great boon uptime, but not OP.

Will post the vid when I get to it.

Honestly went Lyssa for condition removal to make up the loss from Cleansing Ire but the damage does lack a little, I’ve been experimenting on getting that higher since I posted by using Hoelbrak runes.

Still dusting off the Warrior but this thread was mostly aimed at the duration of resistance and quickness that an unskilled player like myself could achieve, I’m sure Warrior mains could do a lot better and I am definitely going to try Leadership runes now thanks

Leadership does team-wide convert 2 boons on elite use, kitten cd. That said, you can avoid heavy condi pressure without cleansing ire by taking a range weapon for kiting, and properly using your resistance (not talking max boon duration either, but timely use XD )

Here’s the boon duration vid. Crit rate is pretty low for a power build, and even when it crit it didnt feel like it hit hard enough. Especially against those thieves who I needed to go down easier than not.

https://youtu.be/f08wDIdB0-g

I’m uploading the match I did straight after to show you the comparison.

What’s the go with that thief at 5:40 when you down him? He just glides across the ground lol

Hack or lag? Never seen that before 0.o

Anyway that first mid was fantastic to watch until their whole team arrived

nicknamenick.2437:

Healing signet: 6sec / 20sec CD
Berserker stance: 11sec / 60sec CD (traited)

Thats perma resistance?

Ok…. these arguments are worse every day, this build doesnt even bring boon duration runes or sigil.. nothing.

sephiroth.4217:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

what happens if your boons get corrupted or stolen ?

Re-apply it lol

there’s so many sources

2
oh my god right!? perma…. lol

I don’t think you have played Warrior since January….

Resistance does not last for the duration of Berserkers stance since january, it pulses Resistance at intervals.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Why did you pick Lyssa rune instead of Leadership?

Leadership is 30% boon duration on it’s own.

Honestly, if you’re going to min/max and talk broken, you might aswell do it properly.

Ross Biddle.2367:

So I ran the setup (recorded it too)

It lacks damage. And I need that damage to put things like thieves on the ground immediately.

So yeah, great boon uptime, but not OP.

Will post the vid when I get to it.

Honestly went Lyssa for condition removal to make up the loss from Cleansing Ire but the damage does lack a little, I’ve been experimenting on getting that higher since I posted by using Hoelbrak runes.

Still dusting off the Warrior but this thread was mostly aimed at the duration of resistance and quickness that an unskilled player like myself could achieve, I’m sure Warrior mains could do a lot better and I am definitely going to try Leadership runes now thanks

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

what happens if your boons get corrupted or stolen ?

Re-apply it lol

there’s so many sources that you don’t need to stack and burst, you can apply boons just while fighting through means of passives and the utilities are for a bit more control for when that does happen.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQJAURnMdAlhgthAWhAElilsA79zGaXtKRtUXKAZAUACAA-TZRBABTcEAA4CAA0+D5/AAe4QAAA

It’s Diviners Amulet – 70% boon duration uptime.

I find it extremely powerful and broken, I’m not the best player though but lets see how you guys go with it.

If you cant be bothered looking, basically it’s resistance and quickness uptime. Enough to have nearly 22s left at the end of the first mid fight.

If they nerf resistance, at least make protection effective against conditions and make weakness apply “half hits” just like every other power build needs to deal with.

Sick of this game favoring skilless builds and passives.

I like the big map but it would be more suited for 10 people..

too much travel time between points, too much advantage to playing ranged or stealth characters too.

Right click to salvage.
Perplexity rune change.
/Facepalm.

Just play condition builds like everyone else…

There is no support to cleanse conditions for allies, including weakness spam onto power builds.

With weakness spam and protection spam, there is no need for power builds unless you want to constantly bash against someone with crit strikes cut in half and 33% further damage mitigation.

Right now taking the classic burn/poison set up is destroying most people, even if they did spec for all condition removal.

Can you imagine the rage if they changed Durability Runes after people have farmed days and weeks just to have 1 set?

And some people farmed 3-5 sets by now….

Archon.6480:

I think they favor glassy boon stacking builds? Maybe Revenant and Mesmer can use those?

Resistance uptime on war was nice, seems to be a lot of conditions now.

Lucred.1802:

sephiroth.4217:

What a joke.

What’s the point of team builds in a team game? lets all just run kittenin condition builds now yay.

You mean exactly how it was, and ele’s were only ever used to solo-bunker a point?

Mine was used on mid-home rotation with a staff…

I’m hoping they re-introduce it as a 4 stat amulet, halving what ever they felt was “unbalanced” about the original amulet and putting it into a vitality stat.

……Or just raise Ele base vitality.