Guild Wars 2

BlaqueFyre.5678:

sephiroth.4217:

Any chance I can get a link on this change?

I made 2 sets of Ascended Commanders Gear (Switch between guard/rev/mes/ele)….. Would really like to know about this change.

Upcoming Balance Change thread by Gaile.

Thanks… Just read it, sounds like OP is over reacting a little but I guess we’ll see….

If you’re Mesmer then you’re pretty much useless. Get sneezed on and die, rely on team mates to kill/win.
If you’re Ele the only boon you can share is Might and Fury.
The other forms of “boonshare” come from shout guards, Revs and such.

What are you trying to remove of those 3?

Any chance I can get a link on this change?

I made 2 sets of Ascended Commanders Gear (Switch between guard/rev/mes/ele)….. Would really like to know about this change.

Nemo.5609:

sephiroth.4217:

Guard didn’t have a bow for the first 3-4 years though? Otherwise I would say that makes sense..

Guardians have had the Bow of Truth utility skill since the start of the game, the weapons are based on those spirit weapon skills.

kitten .

Ele needs buffs but it doesn’t need an overhaul or a rework… I prob should have included that in my post somewhere lol

BlaqueFyre.5678:

sephiroth.4217:

There are heaps of weapons that fit this catagory…

Infinite Light, Foefires, Mjolnir to name some…..

What I never understood was why there aren’t full sets to these skins, why is there no Azureflame dagger design or why can’t I have a greatsword with Infinite Light design.

Then there are amazing skins/auras in game that aren’t even purchasable or useable outside of Hearts… Refer to pic, sorry for bad graphics.

Seeing how most of those unique skins are based on models represented by certain classes, you have all of the Phantasm weapons from Mesmer, you have the Spirit weapons from Guardian, and the elemental Weapons from Elementalist, that’s why there is no Azureflame Dagger since Guardian doesn’t have a spirit Dagger. And so on.

Guard didn’t have a bow for the first 3-4 years though? Otherwise I would say that makes sense..

Quarktastic.1027:

Infinite light is a tribute to the runic blade from GW1. Also, Mjolnir was at one point about as expensive to craft as a legendary.

Ah didn’t know that about Infinite Light, as for Mjolnir it should be expensive. Amazing hammer if not going for a Legendary.

Ele is mostly fine guys, get some builds. Need to be able to dodge while overloading!!!

Ele can still manage to pull about 15-25 kills a game, damage can be on par with an “OP trap guard”. Try sage D/D burn/bleed variant with old school might stacking techniques from the Cele meta. Take a warhorn if you prefer more damage/support over control. That’s just one example.

Pics has 3 different amulet results.

There are heaps of weapons that fit this catagory…

Infinite Light, Foefires, Mjolnir to name some…..

What I never understood was why there aren’t full sets to these skins, why is there no Azureflame dagger design or why can’t I have a greatsword with Infinite Light design.

Then there are amazing skins/auras in game that aren’t even purchasable or useable outside of Hearts… Refer to pic, sorry for bad graphics.

Just my opinions.

- Mid point favors range far too much.
- Cap points are far too small.
- when you run out of base and go towards home and up the ramp to your left, why is there not another ramp towards mid?
- The buffs, why the buffs? why can’t artifacts unleash a pack of tigers or something Coliseum themed instead of outright buffs?

Otherwise, awsome map.

So basically let’s post some memes that are Guild wars 2 related, hopefully we can get a good laugh.

4 months is not a lot of time to fully introduce yourself to the game let alone WvW and PvP communities!

All the Amulets have different builds associated with them, some more glaring than others.

I use 3 stat quite a bit, so I’m just gunna say please don’t hurt my Berserker.

Awsome suggestion.

I really hope Anet reads your post and give you an indefinite Dishonor.

I’d say some really harsh things about the effect players like you have on the PvP community, but I’m sure there’s enough threads about it already.

I think most of you points are true, but I also think after 3 years the game is naturally going to become repetitive and boring.

I’ve been here for 4 years and while I agree with most of what you said, It’s still about creating your own fun in your own weird way. Some examples for me would be:

- Spamming Dancing Mini Moas in WvW as a drunk Quaggan. Moa is purchased from Queensdale, Quaggan is purchased from Orr.

- Skateboarding on a Broom Stick toy with a Charr, the game offers brilliant skateboarding places believe it or not.

- Playing PvP for fun, only fun. Making useless builds useful. Having bad puns loaded up for the match such as “Can you feel it coming in the air tonight” as you drop Air Overload on someones head.

- Getting drunk as a Quaggan.

- Belcher’s Bluff

I think I may have a drinking problem in this game. Good thing it’s just a game

(Also 3 years is a long time for someone to enjoy a game, most games you can only get a week out of it.)

Turns out it’s my internet…

Supreme.3164:

sephiroth.4217:

Supreme.3164:

sephiroth.4217:

Supreme.3164:

OneKlicKill.4285:

Trevor Boyer.6524:

I mean really, when you look at the heal output of DHs, Heralds, Druids, Scrappers, Tempests and even Reapers “between heal, life steal and life force bar”, the sustain is far above and beyond what Berserker is capable of. Daredevil and Chrono you ask? These at least have UBER disengage methods.

Did you look? because two of the classes you listed are running healing amulets. And one of them the entire build is 100% focused on healing every utility, every trait and they hit like a noodle. You want to heal as much as that with a zerk/viper equivalent?

The real issue isn’t buffing warrior to that level it’s bringing the others down.

If you force the other on zerker/viper then it would be the warrior who has the biggest sustain…at the point we should nerf warrior sustain. Furthermore neither the druid and definitely not the ele hit as hard as a zerk amulet even if using the same amulet..while still having 1/5 of the sustain in that regard.

P.S saw the title and though somebody was finally starting a discussion about warrior sustain…instead wow..somebody asking for buffs on warrior sustain

0 healing power = 2.5k health every 6s 398 ( signet ) heal/sec = 4900 health every 6s on average, add possible rousing resilience 3k health every 10 1000 toughness and last stand trait 2.5 health/30s CD…….no class can heal that much with a zerker amulet..NO class except warrior

Ele hits harder if played right. But agreed, you throw away all your healing sustain just to rely on evades. It gets real fun fighting a thief with staff lol

On the other hand though in reference to Ele vs War sustain in zerker Amulet: Ele can trait for Aura spam heals on top of soothing Mists and permanent protection/vigor/regen and also have access to something called Stone Heart which completely screws every Power build over with 40% protection spam.

So…an ele traited for dmg get eaten alive by a zerker war as he has more sustain, now the ele traited for healing has more sustain than zerker war..but deal no dmg..so the zerker war now asks to have the same sustain as the ele traited for healing..while keeping the zerker dmg…..kk

What?

Zerker Ele eats Zerker War with a staff. Also eats Condi wars too. It just doesnt have a tonne of passives / heals to rely on. Gotta rely on Evade skills and dodges and positioning.

The two classes who hard counter the staff build I play is Rev and thief, those fights put me under a lot of pressure to not make a mistake if I wanna win and to have fast reflexes if they hit me first.

Do you honestly believe that you’d beat any pvper with a zerker staff ele? And condi wars too?…oh boy ..this is too much cya

from experience, yes, lots of times.

I’m still confused what you were trying to say when you first responded lol

But back to topic I don’t think Warrior needs any more sustain, it’s a class you can play zerker and facetank on, not an ele which requires timing on evades and kiting.

Look at the classes in the picture and you might see why I reference Ele to Warrior in this Warrior thread about Sustain buffs.

cyberzombie.7348:

I want to achieve a 20k crit (17k is the current reccord).

care to share what class? I’ve been using War to get my highest crit lol

Supreme.3164:

sephiroth.4217:

Supreme.3164:

OneKlicKill.4285:

Trevor Boyer.6524:

I mean really, when you look at the heal output of DHs, Heralds, Druids, Scrappers, Tempests and even Reapers “between heal, life steal and life force bar”, the sustain is far above and beyond what Berserker is capable of. Daredevil and Chrono you ask? These at least have UBER disengage methods.

Did you look? because two of the classes you listed are running healing amulets. And one of them the entire build is 100% focused on healing every utility, every trait and they hit like a noodle. You want to heal as much as that with a zerk/viper equivalent?

The real issue isn’t buffing warrior to that level it’s bringing the others down.

If you force the other on zerker/viper then it would be the warrior who has the biggest sustain…at the point we should nerf warrior sustain. Furthermore neither the druid and definitely not the ele hit as hard as a zerk amulet even if using the same amulet..while still having 1/5 of the sustain in that regard.

P.S saw the title and though somebody was finally starting a discussion about warrior sustain…instead wow..somebody asking for buffs on warrior sustain

0 healing power = 2.5k health every 6s 398 ( signet ) heal/sec = 4900 health every 6s on average, add possible rousing resilience 3k health every 10 1000 toughness and last stand trait 2.5 health/30s CD…….no class can heal that much with a zerker amulet..NO class except warrior

Ele hits harder if played right. But agreed, you throw away all your healing sustain just to rely on evades. It gets real fun fighting a thief with staff lol

On the other hand though in reference to Ele vs War sustain in zerker Amulet: Ele can trait for Aura spam heals on top of soothing Mists and permanent protection/vigor/regen and also have access to something called Stone Heart which completely screws every Power build over with 40% protection spam.

So…an ele traited for dmg get eaten alive by a zerker war as he has more sustain, now the ele traited for healing has more sustain than zerker war..but deal no dmg..so the zerker war now asks to have the same sustain as the ele traited for healing..while keeping the zerker dmg…..kk

What?

Zerker Ele eats Zerker War with a staff. Also eats Condi wars too. It just doesnt have a tonne of passives / heals to rely on. Gotta rely on Evade skills and dodges and positioning.

The two classes who hard counter the staff build I play is Rev and thief, those fights put me under a lot of pressure to not make a mistake if I wanna win and to have fast reflexes if they hit me first.

Supreme.3164:

OneKlicKill.4285:

Trevor Boyer.6524:

I mean really, when you look at the heal output of DHs, Heralds, Druids, Scrappers, Tempests and even Reapers “between heal, life steal and life force bar”, the sustain is far above and beyond what Berserker is capable of. Daredevil and Chrono you ask? These at least have UBER disengage methods.

Did you look? because two of the classes you listed are running healing amulets. And one of them the entire build is 100% focused on healing every utility, every trait and they hit like a noodle. You want to heal as much as that with a zerk/viper equivalent?

The real issue isn’t buffing warrior to that level it’s bringing the others down.

If you force the other on zerker/viper then it would be the warrior who has the biggest sustain…at the point we should nerf warrior sustain. Furthermore neither the druid and definitely not the ele hit as hard as a zerk amulet even if using the same amulet..while still having 1/5 of the sustain in that regard.

P.S saw the title and though somebody was finally starting a discussion about warrior sustain…instead wow..somebody asking for buffs on warrior sustain

0 healing power = 2.5k health every 6s 398 ( signet ) heal/sec = 4900 health every 6s on average, add possible rousing resilience 3k health every 10 1000 toughness and last stand trait 2.5 health/30s CD…….no class can heal that much with a zerker amulet..NO class except warrior

Ele hits harder if played right. But agreed, you throw away all your healing sustain just to rely on evades. It gets real fun fighting a thief with staff lol

On the other hand though in reference to Ele vs War sustain in zerker Amulet: Ele can trait for Aura spam heals on top of soothing Mists and permanent protection/vigor/regen and also have access to something called Stone Heart which completely screws every Power build over with 40% protection spam.

Good Revs, you don’t have a chance. If you were condition, you counter them but you’re power so they counter you.

Unblockable Attacks are blocked by Endure Pain.

Unblockable attacks are not blocked by Signet Of Stone.

Is there a reason for this? Which one is not working properly?

JordanJD.3209:

sephiroth.4217:

Pyriall.1683:

They have created this environment and only further encouraged it by continuing to force new players into the game without a proper tutorial AND then by matching them with/against veteran players.

Don’t forget those players are already angry from being forced to rank up on characters they don’t know how to use for achievements.

My suggestions would be something about match making too, it’s horrible.

Also the Dishonor system, as an Aussie, if I dc, my net is no where good enough to make it back in 1:30 minutes… So quite often I find myself returning to the game, winning and getting dishonored which always results in logging off and playing another game.

Matchmaking is huge I agree with this, we need to implement the ELO system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

I don’t know if anything can be done about dishonor in your case unless they can detect a drop in connection (which can be faked out by removing ethernet cable from computer as well)

Nothing can be done about it, we need the dishonor system to stop actual abusers…. It doesn’t happen much which means the dishonor timeout is always less than 6 minutes, but when I have a coffee next to me and keen to play games I become very impatient and just play something else.

Leaa.2943:

Darkside.7182:

Just rollback to release day please. All things gonna be fine. Separated solo-team ques, separated pvp-pve traits, skills, armor sets.

I remember first shark rank player. We watched that finisher on youtube was unbelievable..

PvP was uniqe, hard (maybe impossible) to get top rank and many beautiful things.. You ruined everything about pvp..

Well this is a silly post. No matter what game or game mode you play, you can never get back the feeling when you done something the first time. If this is what you are looking for you will be constantly disappointed in your life because the reason why that felt so good was because it was the first time. And the first time everything feels hard to make. Later when you learned it is not as hard as it was the first time.

I think he is referring to the old system where the highest rank was Pheonix…. Then they changed it too anyone with Wolf was boosted to Dragon rank. It was a very slow progression system that separated dedicated PvP players from the rest.

At one stage there was only 2-3 Pheonix people, seeing that finisher in WvW actually made people stop fighting to admire the finisher. A wolf finisher was enough to make some people say “holy kitten”.

Emmrahil.1934:

sephiroth.4217:

Jourdelune.7456:

Wow, let’s play a team based ranked games without giving a team a shot.

@confused

No offense to the Pros, but this is a casual game. We have nothing in comparison to real ESL games, so realistically we are trying to be Pro in a touch football little league junior match.

This is casual game ONLY for people who see it casually. sPvP is something competitive and everything competitive has a pro side. Is like telling that handball isnt a professional sport because very few people see it that way comparing to football. But handball is a sport even if is not a top popular one. Unlike what most people believe profesionalism has to do with competition. Not with popularity. Is you who have to understand that sPvP is something competitive and will always have a pro scence and in a esport direction , but has lots of casual play it too…not the other way.

I’m not saying there’s no Pro scene at all, I’m saying in Comparison to LoL and DOTA and other games, we are the junior league football match. Every junior league has the best players/teams. (in terms to what you quoted me anyway)

Junior touch leagues are competitive too, it’s not just about fun. Parents bet on teams and support the match for their kids sake, reward them and make them feel special about what they do, keeps the scene active and players playing.

https://www.socialbakers.com/statistics/facebook/pages/detail/1424259884471711-esl-guild-wars-2

Not sure how accurate it is, but we only spiked at 3.5k views.

Now compare that too, “On Twitch alone, 860,992 fans watched the finals on March the 15th at the ‘pure’ peak concurrent viewership, with CS:GO being the most watched game on the streaming platform over the course of most of the tournament. The English stream alone managed to peak at an amazing 608,923 viewers! Overall, the tournament drew 8,785,740 unique visitors and 16 million hours watched.”

Don’t get me wrong, I wish we were doing a lot better. But it is, what it is.

I don’t get the issue honestly. It stacks with healing signet like a boss and with Regen, even better with Soothing Mists if an Ele is present.

I play 100% zerker in PvP though with rage runes, so low health pool probably makes it appear more effective maybe.

Like, You say other classes have too much sustain. If you play zerker or marauder you would know they have 0 sustain. You can down a Necro in 2 skills on zerker Warrior, sometimes 3 or 4 if they have full life force. A volley with unblockable attacks against a guardian will almost kill them too.

I can give you a build to mess around with if you like? It produces 7k crits on Rush, 11k crits or higher on Volleys and more. It’s pure burst, so it requires 100% focus on 1 target. The best part is, it’s stacked with unblockable attacks, so guards defenses are useless.

For some reason though as a heads up: Unblockable attacks are still blocked by Endure Pain.

Jourdelune.7456:

Wow, let’s play a team based ranked games without giving a team a shot.

@confused

Because Team based ques have worked so well since the removal of Solo Q.

No offense to the Pros, but this is a casual game. We have nothing in comparison to real ESL games, so realistically we are trying to be Pro in a touch football little league junior match.

And as Gaile has said in another thread: “why not look for a means to allow everyone to participate in our game on a level playing field?” That’s our E-spurts, and probably the reason behind DH. I get it might be a little out of context, but it’s nice to know how the Devs are thinking about the general direction of the game and how to incorporate more players into the scene.

I guess my only questions about the Solo/Duo que would be: How does a guild activate a 3man Guild mission in a duo que? I’m assuming there might still be a 5 man premade option or Unranked won’t be effected by it?

penelopehannibal.8947:

Basically these threads always equate to this:

Non-Roleplayer: "Give roleplayers a separate channel so I don’t have to see their Roleplay.

Roleplayer: “You know you can make a separate tab of your own so you don’t have to see it?”

Non-Rolplayer: “I shouldn’t have to do that!”

Yet the roleplayer should have to be forced a new chat channel to appease those who don’t want to create their own. And then get called names by RP-haters in the process of the threads.

But RP people want a channel too…

This is one of those threads where both parties are happy with RP getting their own channel. All Anet has to do is implement it and they please everyone.

People in thread are saying as RP people they don’t want trolls but also want to help congregate all the RP people together. The non RP support it too because they don’t want “spam” or to read nasty things in the name of RP. AKA: Sexual assault and ERP.

Mr Godlike.6098:

CETheLucid.3964:

Supreme.3164:

I feel it in my guts, the next spec has to potential to be even worst than Tempest

Tempest isn’t a bad elite spec though.

I if you are talking about pve – you right!
I if you are talking about pvp – horribly nope! If you compere tempest to other elite specialisations it’s easy to see that it nothing improved

“Was depressed ele…now depressed druid” is your signature, there’s still a few builds there, just not as supportive. (refer to pic, nearly 700k damage with staff)

What Elementalists really need most is the ability to dodge while overloading. Tempest is a great design but it’s the rest of the trait lines that are lacking.

Do you not sit in the same 5-10 minute ques I get?

DH does need a nerf, it’s why so many people are playing it and the reason why teams are over stacked with DH and not something like an Elementalist.

katniss.6735:

This game is so imbalanced. Thieves have always been OP. So what if there’s a bunch of threads about it. How about anet actually does something about it? You shouldn’t get to shortbow away endlessly. And cleanse on dodge , etc . It’s dumb. Also, if a thief dies to wells, they are awful at the game.

P.S. dafug does Seph have 27 characters for?^

Making a collection… working towards having 1 of every profession to every race. so I should up with 54 toons by the time I’m done but I haven’t made any progress since the Elite spec grind, so I made a tonne of gold making 20 of them naked lol.

I feel it’s a bad game design to make someone unlock the same elite spec repeatably for purchasing more character slots, but some people like to grind in a game I guess. I got stacks of tomes for more but they dont work on Elites yet I don’t think, so till then I’m just waiting.

penelopehannibal.8947:

sephiroth.4217:

RP people talk about some sick kitten… The last one I saw someone was talking about Modrem sexually assualting someones child who had cancer from taking bloodstone drugs.

So yea, please give them their own channel to RP.

That does not sound like Roleplayers to me, but sounds like trolls who take the mickey out of RPers. Please don’t smear Roleplayers like this.

I don’t understand it to be honest, I don’t even see it much but when I do I just see people have fun in thier own worlds, similar to that of animal zergs in WvW when toys were allowed. This is was just the one that stuck out as most vile to me as I was doing map completion in the last few weeks. There were a few funny ones, some genuinely looks like they are NPC’s in the city and live in the game or something too.

Given the nature of the postings in this thread though, I think it’s safe to say that what I saw may have been someone trolling an RP group for all I know. But that just furthers my +1 to this idea, I RP as a charr on a skateboard sometimes. Prob not the same as actual RP but it’s fun and I wouldn’t want anyone disturbing that fun either. I have an album of places I’ve skateboarded in this game while doing map completion lol

RP people talk about some sick kitten… The last one I saw someone was talking about Modrem sexually assualting someones child who had cancer from taking bloodstone drugs.

So yea, please give them their own channel to RP.

I just made Eternity to sell, I needed 7 Clovers so I thought I would do that Clover recipe for 10….. Took me 18 attempts.

So I’m gonna +1 this idea.

Sticks n Stones may break my bones but Lightning Whip excites me. (yes we need whips!)

Probably the WvW updates:

North Keep: One of the village residents will now flee if their home is destroyed.
Added a new hay bale to the southeast side of the Desert borderlands.

Serious.7083:

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

Have you tried a resistance build? I’ve been experimenting with one lately, and it’s kinda fun to ignore all conditions all the time.

~EW

Unfortunately not every class has that option.

To be honest I’m not sure if a balance is possible in this. it would be nice if it were more balanced but that would have knock on effects in PvE and sPvP.

No but this is a Warrior posting… Bit of Commanders gear and volla, 4 minutes of Resistance.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

sephiroth.4217:

Vavume.8065:

sephiroth.4217:

Leaderboard Ranks: WvW: 971.

What kinda strange magic is this?

GW2Effeciency stats… not sure how accurate they are but its cool to see where you place for “most x” or what ever….

That number there is where I am for highest ranked WxP character, no EotM either. I’m in the top 100 for Yak escorts though

Holy kitten… I’m rank 20 for WvW rank. I’m both proud and depressed.

HAHAHAHA that was my reaction when I saw myself on the Yak escorts… Nice on rank 20 too

Pyriall.1683:

They have created this environment and only further encouraged it by continuing to force new players into the game without a proper tutorial AND then by matching them with/against veteran players.

Don’t forget those players are already angry from being forced to rank up on characters they don’t know how to use for achievements.

My suggestions would be something about match making too, it’s horrible.

Also the Dishonor system, as an Aussie, if I dc, my net is no where good enough to make it back in 1:30 minutes… So quite often I find myself returning to the game, winning and getting dishonored which always results in logging off and playing another game.

I make useless builds useful.

Throw some random idea together like tonights S/W sage burn might stacking Ele, drop 20 bleeds and 12+ burns, watch people melt then laugh it off when people start raging about skilless builds.

Vavume.8065:

sephiroth.4217:

Leaderboard Ranks: WvW: 971.

What kinda strange magic is this?

GW2Effeciency stats… not sure how accurate they are but its cool to see where you place for “most x” or what ever….

That number there is where I am for highest ranked WxP character, no EotM either. I’m in the top 100 for Yak escorts though

Apparently it’s an exploit, got a forum moderator note after posting in here how to replicate it and where else it can happen.

Hopefully a fix is on the way.

Offair.2563:

Just consider this as kitten mode. This is where my longbow/staff buid comes in handy, to pewpew em from a long distance and close the gap with #3 off staff.

You mean Staff 3 to extend the gap to longbow pewpew. :P

But I like Dolyaks. (refer to sig)

Seriously though: Dolyaks provide the best sources for 1vX fights. Follow a Dolyak, guaranteed to get a few fights from roamers, better than 1 v zerg v lag.

My game has been muted since the release of the talking back packs.

I get the rez all the time in PvP but the heal is almost useless which renders it a bit under powered in that aspect.

I find it works best for static aura upkeep combined with Surging Runes, get about 16 seconds of Static aura upkeep or more.

JemL.3501:

This is mainly about the person itself…if he wants to represent one whole week(it was just numbers) a single guild, he could receive atleast 1 extra guild commendation and the guild gains lets say 50 favor or even less, just to say something meanignless

Some of you got scared because thought ‘’no, if something like this is added, my guild leader will force me or kick me if i dont represent’’ or ‘’i have alt guild for stash’’ etc

That is something totally out of the line, because here we are talking about all those, the many which represent the 100% of time ONE single guild because they are loyal, they want, they can, they decide to be like that and even like that they sometimes lose events because the schedule, even one miserable extra guild commendation (just to say something) it would be very nice…that is for us, not for you

And before you come here and say ‘’you decide to represent 1 always that is your problem, you shouldnt receive anything’’ i tell you again, that is because you arent like us, and you got scared of something bad might happen to you, which wont, and for start with it looks like you dont even care about represent, then that is your problem too, but for us, the others, it would be like very nice

I read your post, can you reward me now?

See how this might apply to the thread? “I repped a guild for a week, reward me!”

Glass is half full or half empty, what you may see as “scared”, we may see as entitled.

I think the best buff for Elementalist would be the ability to dodge while Overloading.

Ballistic.2570:

Wait for Halloween, it will go back to about 250g for 1k gems then, wintersday at the very latest.

Yea I think this is my best bet, got the credit card ready so to speak for when it happens.

TheDevice.2751:

Rolisteel.1375:

I think necromancer is one of the classes atm that requires the most skill to be effective at higher level PvP. You have to solve situations without good defensive skills/mobility skills and are very vulnerable to burst damage and cc. No good health regen. While also having long cast heal + long cast elite stability. Most of other meta classes can just run in zerg like headless chickens without thinking and run away if kitten happens regen fast then come back, so they are all the noob classes in reality.

to OP you got legendary as gs necro. That means nothing. League farming, duo q, premades. Doesn’t really matter what spec you use as necro in that league. If your teammates better than enemy you win with both if they are worse and they die in seconds than you lose with both.

You made this post because your gs necro got killed by condi necro?

I’d like to see you go from amber to legendary on GS necro. I’d actually love to see that.

And, no, it doesn’t matter what class, what spec, or who beat what. The truth is that the way necromancers are designed (the examples I’ve given) shows to me that the class is made as a low risk / low reward class. Its easier and safer to use. The devs designed the profession this way lol.

Necro has a high level skill floor. Probably about 4 or 5 viable builds, and yes it does have it’s low risk / high reward builds but it also has lots of high risk better rewards build.

I’m not pro, but I run a Viper D/D and Staff Necro and all my staff is good for is Life Force stacking and a poison field when enemies try to rez. Maybe fear if an ally is getting stomped.

If there was any “noob” class, to me it would be Druid… Doesn’t matter what silly traits or build I put together, my pet will always win the fight.