Guild Wars 2

Terrorsquad.2349:

Aaaaand another SoloQ vs Premades again!

Can I also please get ppl in my team who want to win?

You could always you know form a team, or maybe I am talking crazy.

Quint.3765:

the map would be cool if there wasn’t any PvE content in the map and only pure “PvP skills” in the maps. But no Anet always have to put PvE content for the casuals players.

If you want to play kill other players, go play practice or courtyard or even join a Zerg vs Zerg oops I mean GvG, not everybody needs to be subjugated to those terrible modes.

I love your logic you complain about something then provide almost no example of what will make you happy. How about you provide them and let arena net decide if they will do it or not and simply not throw random darts at the wall hoping to please you.

Yakez.7561:

silvermember.8941:

Why should Arenanet add translation for an audience they are not interested bringing in? Guild wars 1 compared to guild wars 2 is a significantly smaller game in EVERYTHING, it would be foolish to add translation only to cater to a very small insignificant population. Believe it or not games are a zero sum game, dedicating resources to one thing means another one loses.

With that said most of the things you listed seem to fall under “I wish Arenanet crafted the perfect game for me”.
Dungeons: are not broken they might be stale but that can be attributed to Arenanet deciding to move away from dungeons since the payoff isn’t worth it. (I think the expac will not have dungeons, speculation and my wish. I like I said game development is a zero sum game, when you dedicate resources another project loses out).

End game: Not broken guild wars 2 has different goals that what other games have. Subjective thus worthless opinion, also did not have the decency to at least say why.

Trinity: Yep i agree, Guild wars 2 has a big problem with the manner in which control operates in PvE, fortunately some of is being fixed in Hot. However, damage and support seem to work extremely well.

PvP: Yep I agree, removing solo que was stupid and idiotic.

EoTM: Is doing exactly what it needs to do, it removes the people who only care about karma and minimizes it in WvW and I mean seriously as long as EoTM does not have any impact on anything, why should players take it seriously?

The point being it is extremely easy to complain, all it takes is a JR high level of education, coming up with suggestions is harder.

Wait you say GW was smaller game and it benefited from translation. GW2 is bigger and that’s why it would not benefit from translations?))) It is not so expensive to translate text only, but it brings a big coordination work for a team in future releases.

Ok WoW is big and it has like 11 languages available (English, German, European and Latin American Spanish, Italian, French, Russian, Brazilian Portuguese, Simplified and Traditional Chinese, and Korean.) If you think that translations do not bring money you are wrong, but yeah they do not bring easy money.

GW2 is smaller in PvP. KITTEN 6.5 maps, I’m ready to poke on my keyboard killing Chieftain over and over again. Seriously, I could live without Dry Top or SW, but not having same maps from release! At least they could do Maguuma Wastes themed PvP map.

Good point about EotM, now I like this mode).

The Dungeons was main selling point back then in 2012. And they are ridiculously broken even in 2015. God, this game was so good when I saw AC cinematic first time, it’s like getting your hand on C size boobs for the first time, just awesome… stop where I was…

Suggestions? My first suggestion, fix broken things when they appear.

Wow generated $ 1 billion last year (guild wars 2 made $115 million) and charges 15 bucks a month to play. So they have a giant $5-15 (assuming different regions) a month incentive to get as many people, guild wars 2 only comes with a 1 time fee of 10 to 40 with no certain way to generate revenue from the player once they buy the game so why waste time translating, which by the way isn’t as cheap as you seem to believe.

I agree with PvP, I never made an argument against it. PvP is suffering because Arenanet messed up its implementation in 2012 which unfortunately kill pvp and now Arena net doesn’t want to dumb resources into a game mode that doesn’t generate income, since making PvP maps is far difficult than PvE maps.

Dungeons were never the main selling point of guild wars 2, DE, removal of the holy trinity and minimal vertical progression were. in the interviews in 2012, they usually talk about having all the fun stuff outside. Dungeons were simply a feature a check mark on the box.

silvermember.8941:

it would be foolish to add translation only to cater to a very small insignificant population

So you are saying that everyone in a country in which Spanish is the main language is “a very small insignificant population”.

Wow. I mean, just wow.[/quote]

You did not misunderstand that is exactly what I am saying. Companies look for ways to generate income, the fact that they don’t bother with certain languages goes to show they believe the pay off is not worth it. Companies for profit exist to make $$ not provide a service because they are nice.

Supporting a language not only means localization which isn’t cheap but providing support services to customers of those languages, also not cheap.

iKeostuKen.2738:

Elementalist might just need a rework or some major tweaking. This class doesnt do the most damage yet it has to deal with the lowest base hp combined with the lowest armor. Meaning you need to spec for living ontop of anything else which already throws you into being a bunker to compensate for the classes ability to survive without certain traits and amulets.

If there is one thing I truly hate about this game is the way elementalist currently are. THeir low damage, low armor and hp is one of the most insane things about this game To me. There is no logic that I see, other than cuz they have a lot of skills.

I hate having to go into water to make a decent survivable build.

Yakez.7561:

Test.8734:

It looks like ArenaNet doesn’t know which path to follow. Which is a pity, because they already had a successful model in the original Guild Wars. By this time after the release of GW1, they had already released two other full campaigns and one expansion, almost doubling the number of professions and more than doubling the already sizeable number of skills in the original release, not to mention the content updates like Sorrow’s Furnace and the Mission Packs. All that with only a small fraction of the team currently at ArenaNet, and without the massively invasive in-game store they have now.

It’s hard to believe in the expansion when it appears the quality of the product we get has fallen so much.

I’m surprised about this fact too. Also add translation of GW1 in what we have in GW2:
German
French
Spanish

And little more:
Spanish (with full audio)
Italian (with full audio)
Russian
Polish
Korean (with full audio)
Japanese

Yes most of it was outsourced, but still you get the point. (Russian was complete mess, but some fans helped to improve it to great level)

It is funny how down the road 3 years after “revolution” you get completely broken game.
1. Dungeons – broken
2. Endgame open world – broken
3. No trinity (at least in described and marketed way) – broken
4. PvP – broken (due to lack of separate solo queue and build diversity)
5. EotM – broken (one big karma and lvl train)
6. WvW – little buggy
7. At least first 30 levels of PvE and story is really good ad revolutionary!

But still GW2 have third place in my best MMO list))) other two is GW and EVE.

Why should Arenanet add translation for an audience they are not interested bringing in? Guild wars 1 compared to guild wars 2 is a significantly smaller game in EVERYTHING, it would be foolish to add translation only to cater to a very small insignificant population. Believe it or not games are a zero sum game, dedicating resources to one thing means another one loses.

With that said most of the things you listed seem to fall under “I wish Arenanet crafted the perfect game for me”.
Dungeons: are not broken they might be stale but that can be attributed to Arenanet deciding to move away from dungeons since the payoff isn’t worth it. (I think the expac will not have dungeons, speculation and my wish. I like I said game development is a zero sum game, when you dedicate resources another project loses out).

End game: Not broken guild wars 2 has different goals that what other games have. Subjective thus worthless opinion, also did not have the decency to at least say why.

Trinity: Yep i agree, Guild wars 2 has a big problem with the manner in which control operates in PvE, fortunately some of is being fixed in Hot. However, damage and support seem to work extremely well.

PvP: Yep I agree, removing solo que was stupid and idiotic.

EoTM: Is doing exactly what it needs to do, it removes the people who only care about karma and minimizes it in WvW and I mean seriously as long as EoTM does not have any impact on anything, why should players take it seriously?

The point being it is extremely easy to complain, all it takes is a JR high level of education, coming up with suggestions is harder.

Terrorsquad.2349:

Iris Ng.9845:

Terrorsquad.2349:

DeWolfe.2174:

jportell.2197:

I think we’re up to 5 turret complaint threads a day.

There’s only a handful of posters that are rabidly against this build.

So, if players are playing the build and having fun, then the Dev’s must have designed it pretty well. It can’t even be as “OP” as the complaints are since it’s not a Meta Build.

1. Wrong, most of the community is against this build, even top players. (they even stream to show how stupidly OP it is. One top player even used it in NA 2v2 cup, to show how broken it is. Not gonna call names )

2. Wrong, doesn’t mean its fun to play, the devs did a good job. Playing something OP is mostly fun because you get rewarded for it in this game. Rewards equals fun (Leaderboard).

3. It’s not meta in ESL because top players don’t want to be called noobs for playing something cheesy as that. (Cele meta already showing this) I think it you get 5 top players together, let them play 5 turret engi or 4 turret engi and a thief/ele/warr doesn’t matter, they can basically win any tournament. But they don’t. It’s lame.

1. HAHAHAHA … I watched that fight. Said person was farmed so hard so he switched to turret engi. Not sure if he was really salty or genuinely wanted to show how broken turret engi is.

3. Every tourneys I know ban stacking of turret engis. I agree it’s lame and exactly opposite of what GW2 is proud of: active combat.

Exactly, I think the fact ESL and other e-sports facilities banning Turret Engis is more than enough proof.

Proof that what? That the organizers don’t like turrets?

Un/fortunately, it is their tournament they can make whatever rules they want. A more logical reason is that a lot of the so called “higher” skill players usually make 5 or 6 threads a day whining about Turrets so to save themselves the QQ and whining, ESL made rules about the turrets Engineer. Less drama and QQ.

I don’t know why mmorpg players have a difficult time realizing what other humans and gamers have known for years. You can stop liking an mmo, it isn’t that big of a deal. You can get bored of it, find a new one that suits your interest and guess what? It is a perfectly normal and logical human behavior.

Over time your interest diverge from the game, welcome to life. If you are not hyped then you are not, nobody says you have to be. People are gonna react the way they feel and live goes on.

I loved Pokemon and now I don’t, my interest simply changed. You won’t see me on a Pokemon forum wishing for the game to make me interested in it, you have to be interested in it and if you are not, that’s fine.

Reikou.7068:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Currently the ladder is a ‘beta’ season. We are testing numbers, but this is not the feature complete design. This means things are missing that will be included later.

Wait what?

If the ladder is not feature complete… that means we’re alpha testing this PvP stuff?

this isn’t even a beta test yet (regardless of what you guys try to name it.)

You can call it alpha, beta delta, carta, sigma, gamma rays. The point is it is not complete and they have never made it a secret that it was just testing. I think a lot of people would be happier having some input into the leaderboard than a half baked non beta, alpha, delta, carta, sigma, gamma rays, then again people on the forums are never happy so it doesn’t matter.

Invoker.5462:

silvermember.8941:

SYPHA.9283:

TexZero.7910:

As someone who does PvP both solo and on a team, i’ll give you my view on VoIP.

It’s not needed.

The only thing one needs to improve is basic teamwork. IE not falling victim to common misconceptions like (dont push far) etc.

There’s a very good quote from another product. It’s better that all 5 players follow a bad call than give 5 different calls and react to the enemies playbook.

Same thing with GW2’s arena, only the best part is you only need your minimap and UI to determine how to appropriately act.

Are voice coms nice ? Sure, but they are far from game changing. In fact most of the teams you talk about probably are sitting around on coms cracking off jokes instead of making actual calls.

lol VOIP isnt needed???

Tell that to the tournament winners. Communication is an inegral part of TEAM pvp.
Not everyone has the aptitude to type and play. I mean if it was that easy to type and play, theyd make VOIPs outlawed in tournament play.

It seems to more likely tha VoIP improves an already organized team, it won’t help against randoms because they are under no obligation to use a VoIP.

So yes VoIP works for actual teams. So go form a team.

“It won’t help against randoms” I guess you’re new to competitive gaming so ill give you a pass. That or you’re trolling pretty hard.

Give me 10 human beings. Ill sow shut the mouth of your 5 and ill keep my 5 with the ability to talk. Guess who wins? Heck ill even give you 5 players which know each other. If the mmr is even like you forum knights like to boast, then my team WILL win. Sorry but that telepathic communication you heard about on sci fi isn’t actually real.

O my, an internet tuff guy.

You should probably learn to read tuff guy. VoIP is only really effective when people use it, I played enough games to realize that a lot of pugs WILL not use it.

So all your ranting is pointless. If you care about PvP as much as you pretend to do take the initiative and form a team or not. It doesn’t make that much difference to me, I enjoy reading your angry tuff guy post.

SYPHA.9283:

Buran.3796:

VOIP greatly enhances the team performance, and would be a lot more fair if the game has this device implemented by default -specially more fair in conformed vs pugs matches-.

But we must be realistic here:

1) Integrated VOIP would be expensive to implement, and PvP is one of the parts in this game which provides the least earns to ArenaNet, due usually the players focused on competitive PvP doesn’t care as much about fancy skins or PvE commodities.

2) Taking in consideration how badly the netcode sometimes performs in this game -specially here in EU- and that VOIP chat weights a lot more than the vector data from the matches one can only guess HOW LAGGY could the game run if over the current features it would carry an extra layer of real time 5 vs 5 talk in every match.

If an old outdated game like LoTRO can implement in game voice…i certainly think a new game with an abundance of resources can.

It all about resources in business. They could but why would they? The fact you are here QQing and not playing lotro ( yes u quit and are playing smite, which doesn’t have it either) means it isn’t important to the audience. Let me put it like this. VoIP would not significantly help gw2 PvP. Teams will still use their own voip, so get a team or don’t play.

Mak.2657:

TexZero.7910:

VoIP in game, just like chat in game when used by the lowest common denominator will always be used for abuse.

But this is not a reason to remove/not introduce text chat/voice chat from game. Any type of communications can be abused. Should we stop use them?

Text has logs that can be easily checked with the appropriate action easily taken. For VOIP it isn’t as simple or cheap to deal with it. So yes both can be abused but one can easily be punished versus the other.

SYPHA.9283:

TexZero.7910:

As someone who does PvP both solo and on a team, i’ll give you my view on VoIP.

It’s not needed.

The only thing one needs to improve is basic teamwork. IE not falling victim to common misconceptions like (dont push far) etc.

There’s a very good quote from another product. It’s better that all 5 players follow a bad call than give 5 different calls and react to the enemies playbook.

Same thing with GW2’s arena, only the best part is you only need your minimap and UI to determine how to appropriately act.

Are voice coms nice ? Sure, but they are far from game changing. In fact most of the teams you talk about probably are sitting around on coms cracking off jokes instead of making actual calls.

lol VOIP isnt needed???

Tell that to the tournament winners. Communication is an inegral part of TEAM pvp.
Not everyone has the aptitude to type and play. I mean if it was that easy to type and play, theyd make VOIPs outlawed in tournament play.

It seems to more likely tha VoIP improves an already organized team, it won’t help against randoms because they are under no obligation to use a VoIP.

So yes VoIP works for actual teams. So go form a team.

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

ArrDee.2573:

I can think of bigger problems in PvP than this! Namely that the game mode is even more boring than waiting in queue for it! Also the mostest popularest and the mostest esportz games like legendary league and counter strikes don’t let you do anything while queuing either! Yes it sux we can’t play pvesportz or duel in some custom arenas and yes Anet logic is just awful, as usual, in this scenario but mountains out of molehills!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Difference between this game’s queue times compared to League/Counterstrike is that the queue times are 100x longer. My league queues pop in like less than 20 seconds. This game has like 10 minute queues. I do agree there are more problems in PvP, my Band Practice Frand.

Of LOL has a faster queue, considering it has more active players and makes 6-8 more a year than gw2.

thanks

As u know im pro.

I think you are over reacting, so you lost 3 matches so what?

as u know im pro.

Even if player to player trading wasn’t the intented target, it will have an effect on it and I say kudos that that. I hate when people spam the LFG system selling something.

Laraley.7695:

Kyban.4031:

Laraley.7695:

Kyban.4031:

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I’m not sure honestly. Do you really believe that someone who had 0 games on their account should be matched with people that experienced they make teams and appear in tournies? I do not.

They should not, but this may not be due to MMR. It could be that they were the only available match at the time.

Well, as I stated it was at prime time. It’s still wrong, they can’t expect people being satisfied with matchmaking like this. It’s not just one exception, people keep getting new players and the games are just frustrating.

You seem to enjoy arguing against invisible opponents. Nobody here is disagreeing with you, we all agree it is wrong BUT that is how the system is. If there is nobody around MM will try to group up people in the most fairest way possible. THis can mean that both team gets someone with zero games.

Dralyne.5719:

I 100% disagree Kyban. If there was MMR, truly, then I wouldn’t have been matched up against a top 10 player recently. I barely have 20 games played since ladder reset. I had total scrubs on my team and I’m facing a top 10 player and his buddy. In theory, MMR would make it IMPOSSIBLE for me to even match vs anyone who is ranked. Regardless of how long I’m searching based on MMR ranking alone. This is why I feel there is no system and if they have code that goes around the MMR when you’ve searched for too long, then what’s the point? Not to mention comps and skill-level in each match are so slanted it’s disgusting.

Yes, in theory MMR would make it impossible to match up with a top 10 player. But what if the people queuing at the time was: 4 scrubs, 4 medium scrubs and 2 top players. Then the MMR will have no choice but to group you up with the top player because there is nothing left. A perfect example of beggars can never be choosers.

The reality is there either a terrible match or no match. Arenanet decided that for the majority, they will prefer a match vs no match. You however prefer no match vs a terrible match and you will have to make a choice either queue or don’t queue.

1. Templates
2. Remove daily profession win.
3. Hopefully a good strong hold with 5v5. Guild wars 2 combat fails at any number greater than 10 players max.

MMR can only work if they are enough players in queue, guild wars 2 does not have enough players stuff MMR is useless. Unless you can get 1000s of more players, MMR will never be better. Better yet, if you want to avoid relying on MMR just for a team.

There is nothing Arenanet can do about it except hope more players show up. The other thing people suggested is added a rank restriction, which doesn’t really work too well since the players the noobs will be playing against are also noobs so they learn nothing.

Mrbig.8019:

silvermember.8941:

Mrbig.8019:

And no don’t say fun.

Proc Wars 2 is definitely not fun

If you are not having fun, then quit. With the amount of QQ that comes from you, I would say quitting is the best thing you can do for yourself, but that would be me assuming I know what goes through your mind.

There is no reason to do anything other than to eat, sleep, drink water and poop.

Rofl i’ve already quit.

I’m just asking why do people continue to play this game ( PvP) since

no skill progression ( no tiers, terrible matches vs randoms instead of players of your skill level)

joke leaderboard

no competition

terrible meta

cheese gameplay based on unavoidable things such instant skills and procs/weap swap

ridicolous power creep

I’m seriously just asking.

And, anyway, it’s been like 2 weeks from my last post so i dunno where is this “qq” you’re talking about coming from.

Oh goody.

Now if only you would simply move on now.

You remind me of one of those loser (not that you are) that was the star quarterback (America football) of his little pathetic town and failed to be accepted by any college teams. So to reclaim his old glory he puts on his lettered jacket and goes back to his old high school for that brief 15 minutes of recognition by coach Buddy Smith.

So you quit congratulations. Now if only you could move on and don’t worry about what the others who are still playing. (Yes, it is within your rights to keep posting here, but why would you?).

Supreme.3164:

Sorel.4870:

unlucky.9285:

^ then stop running to far from the start of the game then fighting off point constantly killing the beasts at the start of a match leaving a 3v4 at mid on foe fire… that should be the only reason people start to get angry at you.

oh and that one guy that keeps suiciding into a turret engie who holds the point till his friend turns up and ganks them…

Dude, it’s a game that comes with a learning curve, and that’s exactly what’s fun about it. You never suicided to a turret engi when you were new? Sure, you can tell them, without insulting them, via map chat, what strategy you think is best (and should do so). You can be annoyed to get bad players in your team. But why insult bad players? You’re harmful to the community. PvE players always complain that insults and bad sportsmanship drive people away from PvP: well the matchmaking will not get better any time soon if people are discouraged to learn and progress by comments of the type “go back to PvE/WvW zerg”. I don’t get why you feel the need to belittle these players. Ask yourself that question the next time you get angry.

The majority of bad players simply don’t care to learn and this is not something I’m stating, this is something these bad players constantly say…yah the matchmaking won’t change anything…ever

You cannot make such a statement unless you believe bad players are a homogeneous group of people who all decided to not bother learning. Your statement would only be true for a specific individual and it takes more than a match to be better. It takes a while to learn your build enough to play against others and it takes a while to learn the mechanics enough to not the low tier mistake.

The problem is the people who can teach them example like you, get easily frustrated (which is within your right) and blame the new people instead of Arenanet for grouping them with you. Obviously this could have been avoided by simply forming a team, but I digress. The point being it is Arenanet’s fault not the pugs and if a good player was being a kitten to me, I know I would make sure to undermine them really really badly.

Torin.7129:

silvermember.8941:

MMR generally works… as well as any system that has less than 5000 players. In most games, MM is very effective because there are hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of players so they get to be choosy.

Guild wars 2 doesn’t have that luxury, so you OP you will have to create 100k+ more players in order to have a perfect working MMR, so suck it up.

Anet needs to create a working system, to get back the pvp community in this game. What we currently have with this system can’t be called real pvp. It’s a grindfest with a terribad system, that’s why they have less than 5k players.

Buddy, you are conflating MMR with the leaderboard. Your topic is about MMR not leaderboard, yes, the leaderboard is a grindfest you wont here me argue against it.

There is no such thing as real pvp or fake pvp. The simple act of playing against another player is called Player vs player.

No they have a pop of less than 5k because players expectations did not matched reality which is fair considering gw1 had a robust pvp system. IT has little to do with your terrible theory.

Torin.7129:

pdavis.8031:

Torin.7129:

pdavis.8031:

Torin.7129:

pdavis.8031:

While MMR is stil be examined and worked on, any system the put in to replace it will certianly need to be tested. They could go back to the GW1 style ladder, but it would still need to be tested.

We are getting GvG with the expansion.
They do tournaments. I believe there is one currently going on, and one not that long ago.

EU server lag is a known issue and something they are actively working on. If you want it done correctly, and not a half kittened rush job, it’s going to take time.

In any event, the current system is actually pretty cool, in theory. However the actual implementation has created unforseen side effects that really do need to be addressed. And thats what the testing is all about. The change a few things, test it in action. Make any modifcations, and go from there. It’s a process. And it takes time. Be patient and it will be fixed and work exactly as intended.

Takes time? Man you can’t be serious. The game is nearly 3 years old, and they didn’t do anything worthy. We are still in a beta version of the pvp game. That’s my problem.

Btw. I mean tourmanents ingame, not a buggy registration of esl. All of the good systems they used in gw1 disappeared.

And raging about it is going to make them just suddenly do it…Gotcha

Of course all of the systems in GW1 disappeared. It’s an entirely different game with different mechanics. It’s like trying to take a DOS based text game, and throwing it into a PS4 and expecting it to be a high quality graphical game. It’s not going to work.

Sry man but you rly don’t get what I want to say. I know that the game mechanics is total different, but a guild ladder is needed. GVG is needed for this conquest mode too. And GW1 had a working system with normal ladder and matchmaking. That could be the same here too, and the pvp community would be satisfied with it. That’s all. I don’t want GW1 mechanics here, just a kittening guildladder, that we had there. With rankbased matches you can enjoy all of your games, cause you’ll get opponent on your lvl.

And thats what the MMR is supposed to do. But it’s also supposed to give you a better rank based on how well a single player performs in a given match. Instead of just rank based on wins/loses. This rewards players for carrying a team, and punishes players for not doing anything.

I understand what you are saying, and yeah I want a working system as well, but patience is more rewarding then letting yourself get frustrated and worked up about nothing you have control over.

But we don’t need this. MMR would be good for a random arena (that’s what we have right now). What rewards do you get with this system? +points? Joke. This system is a grindfest nothing else. I speak about competitive pvp, GvG. I think we waited long enough to lose patience.

GvG in guild wars 1 terms NOT that worthless pathetic zerg vs zerg crap that WvWer love to call PvP, isn’t inherently more competitive than any other form of PvP. Just because you have a preference doesn’t make it objective fact.

Saiyan.1704:

RoRo.8270:

No cause that would require resources and people would whine that x class/build is op and anet can’t balance between teams and 1v1

People already wine that x class/build is op. There has been a nerf thread regarding every single class on this game. That’s just from Conquest.

There will be more drama if there were 1v1’s but 2v2 and 3v3 gamemodes would be great.

true but now Arenanet will be compelled since they officially provide an official mode. When people QQ, all arenanet has to say is “lol, our PweP isn’t balanced for 1v1, it is balanced for 5v5 and that is the end of it”.

By providing a 2v2 or 3v3, Arenanet cannot use the good ole 5v5 excuse. Yes, people complain about it now but it is like 10-30 people at most, now more people will be complaining.

Mrbig.8019:

And no don’t say fun.

Proc Wars 2 is definitely not fun

If you are not having fun, then quit. With the amount of QQ that comes from you, I would say quitting is the best thing you can do for yourself, but that would be me assuming I know what goes through your mind.

There is no reason to do anything other than to eat, sleep, drink water and poop.

csdesign.6829:

So you mean to tell me that the new class will not be able to play in the older area that sucks.

Think about this little puzzle how would the new class level up without a new starting zone. (there is no new starting zone). I am sure you are smart enough for put 2 and 2 together.

MMR generally works… as well as any system that has less than 5000 players. In most games, MM is very effective because there are hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of players so they get to be choosy.

Guild wars 2 doesn’t have that luxury, so you OP you will have to create 100k+ more players in order to have a perfect working MMR, so suck it up.

OP your statement about meta build being denied access is only true, if Meta builds was sanctioned by Arenanet. Meta builds are not. You can still find a build that works without spending gold and if you can’t then it sucks to be you.

SYPHA.9283:

Its funny to see all the thieves run to this thread and call this guy a troll.

Fact is the OP is spot on. Thieves are extremely easy to play effectively and do have a very low learning curve. If you want to really kitten face, make a s/d thief.

It is hard to take the opinions of a known liar seriously. Shouldn’t you be making up more stories about seeing hackers everyday?

SYPHA.9283:

Teutos.8620:

Feel free to look me up in the pre Dez leaderboards, where you were actually ranked my match making. Since I haven’t found you there, I know how great you are.

Every situation I was accused of hacking was during the daily in Hot-join. I don’t spent more time there. Maybe you should try that too.

btw: If you write with caps lock, nobody is taking you seriously. Try to use some of the formatting options if you want to put emphasis on something.

Pssst if you’re going to comment on someones caps use and try to troll. Please make sure your sentences at least make sense. WTF does this mean ….(I don’t spent more time there). I don’t spent much time there either. LMFAO. as a matter of fact, I don’t spent more time in GW2 at all. Smite is a much better designed game.

Pinocchio called he wants his nose back.

They realize it was a terrible mode and decided to attempt a potentially better game mode. I can’t see into the future, so I could be wrong.

Marcos.3690:

Dirame.8521:

Marcos.3690:

Feedback:

- The timer is really anti-hype. Most games end by timer which is really kitten.
- It also encourages full deffense once you are ahead on glory

Nothing bad about that. And timer is anti-hype? That actually depends on how close the two teams are points wise.

Yeah timer is great. That’s why all the other MOBA games use it!

Oh wait, none does.

Guild wars 2 isn’t a mobs, so there is that. Unlike Moba where the only thing you do is MP gw2 has other other modes. Then you got the issue with low pop which will make the queue really long. Finally, you the problem of people simply not acting because why bother and hoping the other team acts first.

No

Apparently, since justin doesn’t work for Arenanet, we wont get a response.

Basket of Boxes.1976:

Flyphish.6398:

Pro troll has everyone baited.

Plus he can’t really say he got nothing for that, all the PvP farming he must have advanced at least a few PvP tracks and made some decent coin from all the games.

Yup, he seems like the guy is finding hard to come to terms that all his grinding was ultimately pointless. So instead of simply accepting it, even when facts seem to indicate he was wrong, he is hoping to whine and whine until Arenanet gives him what he wants.

Personally, I think it is a whine-whine situation. If he whines a lot Arenanet might give him what he wants or if Arenanet doesn’t give him what he wants he can in a few days make a thread saying he is quitting the game because Arenanet is being mean to him.

laokoko.7403:

I dont’ know but even if you are not making it now, you should probably try to get the material now.

silk price spike a bit over the past month, I suspect the new class might have something to do with it.

Unless there are events that drop the price like wintersday, it’s probably going to stay up for a while.

Less people are probably playing the game and are certainly playing SW which also produce a lot of silk.

Reikou.7068:

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

Pretty much this.
Ranked doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll run into more good players. I always solo into Ranked now, but sometimes I queue unranked because the queues are faster. Sometimes I queue unranked if theres a bunch of premades in ranked that I know I could beat with a real group, but I get PuGs that don’t have a clue what they’re doing. I don’t mind being smashed by a good team, but against subpar teams that I know I can beat it’s just not fun. So thats a reason to queue in unranked sometimes. We need Divisions with incentive.

b-b-b-b-but it’ll make bad players feel bad!

Reikou also known as zippers caring about baddies since 2009.

Mrbig.8019:

Chaith.8256:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Everyone hates slick shoes. it is pretty much universal at this point.

My suggestion to nerf it is to remove the break stun off the toolbelt skills.

I think this is only fair seen as if you want to take such an OP 100-0 damage/cc skill then you should have to give up some survivability.

Thoughts?

Your suggestion would be effective if Engineers would still use Slick Shoes, and live with the lower survivability. But that underlying assumption is really not how it would work, I’ll explain:

Engineers (every profession?) are 100% unviable without a Stunbreak. No meta PvP build in the history of GW2 to my knowledge has endured the test of time without Stunbreaks. Slick Shoes could not exist where a Stunbreak should be, just as it was if we examine Engi builds of the past.

In the Engineer build creation process, your change would simply put Slick Shoes out of the ‘Stunbreak’ slot, and compete with a secondary kit. Exactly like Rocket Boots, Throw Mine, and Personal Battering Ram currently are (they’re all worse than Tool Kit or another secondary, and thus, junk). As good as Slick Shoes are, the Engineer would be forced to take another Stunbreak, and then drop a kit to put Slick Shoes back in.

Right now, running Slick Shoes all the time in PvP is a poor decision. Immobilize comps, DPS Guardians, and Entangle Rangers demands Elixir S be taken. The ‘Stunbreak metagame’ Engineers have is fairly balanced, with Slick Shoes and Elixir S being A Tier, E-Gun being B Tier, and Goggles and Thumper Turret being niche/troll.

In light of the Stability boon changes especially, a more practical way to nerf Slick Shoes would be to change how the utility spawns oil slicks. Perhaps reduce the number of puddles spawned, in perhaps a way that makes more Stunbreaks save the user from repeatedly getting knocked down.

Hope that helps put it in perspective, from an Engi player

When power creep ( and outgoing damage) wasn’t so ridicolous, there were clearly engi builds without stunbreak.

Nade-bomb-toolkit and nades-tool-rocket boots were a choice.

Don’t forget w/o the power creep we would still be in the bunker era. I wonder which is better.

Malediktus.3740:

timmyf.1490:

Malediktus.3740:

Too much effort for almost no rewards. GW2 is really the most unrewarding MMO ever.

Says the guy who bought 30 accounts to earn daily login rewards on them?

The rewards for the PvP ladder aren’t great, but can you imagine all the whining if they started handing out Legendaries or precursors based on ladder position?

You know something is wrong with the rewards of the game if login rewards are better gold per hour than playing the game.

Actually, that is fairly common in games with log in reward. The point of the log in rewards is tempt you to log in to get the reward which hopefully will get you to stay and play longer.

In any case it still says more about you than the game.

SnubdubLuskon.1795:

MaXi.3642:

to be honest, I understand their opinion… it wouldn’t be worth it to add new race because it would be too much work for too little reward… all the armors, main city, starting zone, personal story… and in the end it wouldn’t add as much gameplay compared to all the effort…

Yeah, you should never do something to please your consumers. It’s not like it matters if they’ve been asking for it since release or anything, they should just be happy to get more outfits to spend real money on.

No company that wants to survive doesn’t do so by pleasing the customer. In your specific case you are under the mistaken belief that your opinion represents the majority.

I also want to add that a lot of companies are beginning to realize that trying to make everyone happy is a bad idea and it is better to focus on getting one customers than it is to keep terrible disgruntle consumers such as yourself.

Arken.3725:

Just a bit of input: Guardian’s actually have seen significant changes but they happened long ago. Here’s a short list of significant changes.

Tomes: Removed stability

Line of Warding: Got a 37.5% nerf to its duration

Wrathful spirit: Got a 70% nerf to its duration

Vigorous precision: 50% nerf to its potential duration

Shield of Judgement: 40% nerf to its duration

Selfless Daring/SYS: 50% nerf to its effectiveness/duration respectively.

Great Sword: Got a crap ton of nerfs. Not only did the skills get rearranged, but the cool down of each skill increased as well. Symbol went from 10-20 seconds, Leap went from 10 to 15 and Whirling wrath went from 8 to 10 seconds.

My point in all of this is that Guardian’s received significant nerfs. This isn’t even mentioning some of the tracking problems from scepter and other issues.

Not to be that person, but other classes have received just as many nerfs if not more. The guardian for all the complaints by people on the forums, has been consistent. Depending on who you ask that could be a good or bad thing, they has never been a time where guardians have been out of the loop. EVER.

Simply listing nerfs is just a very dishonest because other classes have gotten more nerfs.

timmyf.1490:

Malediktus.3740:

Too much effort for almost no rewards. GW2 is really the most unrewarding MMO ever.

Says the guy who bought 30 accounts to earn daily login rewards on them?

The rewards for the PvP ladder aren’t great, but can you imagine all the whining if they started handing out Legendaries or precursors based on ladder position?

Ouch and that is just really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really sad.

What are you guys whining about, 8 weeks for a Mini you could have easily gotten on twitter or twitch by being lucky is a great reward.

I support Arenanet. Great reward ARenanet, I am so proud of you guys.

Good luck players without a team.

eozturk.7205:

yes. the mentality of zerging is fine and I am bad. good reasoning, spam 1111 and keep it up.

If you want to call yourself a baddie do it on your own but blame others for it.

Your attitude is the problem, not your skills. There are no rules in practice getting angry about what others do in a format designed to let people play however they want is wrong. You can only HOPE to change others, but you are in complete control of changing yourself.

eozturk.7205:

NeXeD.3042:

eozturk.7205:

well, maybe players abusing spectating system breaking hotjoins for their easy rewards/ap/wins and unranked/ranked are not fast enough like hotjoins? It is easy to run away from the problem instead finding a solution for it.

Yeah get more rewards from unranked ranked… so there goes that argument. It’s only a problem if you refuse to use the solution that has been provided to you, if you don’t you may come off as a petulant child.

well nerf track experience from hotjoins is good starting tho. Some people loves playing the pvp instead getting rewards. Anyway, I sense high amount of kittening in you. Stay strong.

It is already Nerf compare to un/ranked. The issue seems to be YOU. Either you move up to un/ranked or stop complaining. You won’t find any sympathy with anybody due to your own choices.

Really OP? People have seen saying this for years, so I really doubt this is the last chance. I mean the first WTS was the last chance, right? Balance relatively speaking has been better than ever and with a new game mode that removes the need for a capture point, new balance will exist as well. So last chance, I highly doubt it. Guild wars 2 problem has always been conquest with the balance being secondary.

The reality is that no mmorpg is balanced go read other forum nobody is ever happy about anything. After whatever balance changes, the meta simply swifts into something new, the new OP and blah blah blah.

Also if you are going to request balance try to provide suggestions benefit all 8 professions and not only your own class. It is always better to have more suggestions than to have none.

Verbal abuse generally only applies to racial, gender and sexual abuse most of the time. And any swear words directed at somebody.

Panites.6798:

This is like most other threads that pop up these days. Sure i agree if the changes all you guys speculated happened, then i would be mad as hell.
But people always jump straight to conclusions and get angry about something they haven’t even tested yet.
I feel like that is what these forums are turning into instead of discussing tactics and builds now days, just people complaining.

If it makes you feel any better, ARenanet created this forum specifically to contain all the nutjobs from spreading across different sites. So the reason why people behave this way is actually for the Arenanet not much for the non crazies.

Geikamir.6329:

Mister TaCo.8135:

There’s a simple way to solve this problem, force premades to fight other premades. 5 man q? how about you just increase the wait time to find a match until a suitable opposing team is found. Who cares if they have to wait 20 mins for their queue to pop, beats the alternative.

The reason they won’t do that is because they want this game to be an esport. Esports requires competitive teams. There aren’t many of them. They need practice. Solution? Feed the plebs to them. Result? Dwindling PvP population.

We get it you are mad about premade vs solo queue, but it doesn’t do any favors when you intention spew bullkitten like this. We all know why the current system it is the way it is, you don’t need to make up some stuff.