Guild Wars 2

kitten , whats wrong? it needs a bit skill to gain an effort WOOOOOW.
Play thief when u want more stealth. Stop try to overbuff the hell out of Longbow because the most “ranger” cant play their own weapons well.

okay cool that i am not the only one.
I think i read months ago that they plan some changes for the forum. Maybe its a part of it.
When i remember they said something around able to ignoring forum posts of people or something like that.

I think his forum could need a Support tracker.
There should be all posts from support team like from gaile Gray.
So its easier for players to see what the real developers say and easier for people who needs help from support.

Seems like some people think that the ranger/engi Patch is just a patvh for this two
This stream was a preview of a whole balancr patch for all wll classes
Ready up just decided to show two classes to have enough time to zltalk about the changes instead of rushing through everything.
This friday are two more classes. That means in more thn 4 weeks all classes are discussed. And anet waits everytime one month before patch or so.

kitten what a question, Howl! everyone runs a wolf, the horn fits as ist best

has anyone downloaded this Video? in Germany ist already blocked
thx to Germans favourite Music Organisation…

i think survival skills are okay in the place.
Muddy Terrain is nice for zerg. i often use it on Tower, when the foes first stacked, then start moving and probably the commander is stucked in my mudder. Even ist just for a short time, my zerg can do more dmg.
LR gives 10s vigor, an evade and dmg, ist the best survival skill ever.
QZ is good for burst attacks. Back in time i never understand the heal cap. at start it nullified ALL heal, the buff to just 50% was nice. With the coming dps buff on LB it is well balanced, we gain a great burst while we loose some survivability.
okay sharpening Stone is just good in bleed burst builds, a slight Change would be okay.

Traps are okay, the Problem of Trapper ranger is, imo, that we melt under condis cause of our low PvP healthpool, Zerker gain a bit Vita from the Amulett, rabid not.

Prysin.8542:

Ok let me explain why you go assassins on a few pieces.
PvE, zerk is better because in 95% of all events, there will be people helping you maintain fury. In wvw, you are less likely to receive that help becausemost of the support is sustain based and not dps. Therefore in wvw, to achieve the best possible damage you gotta raise crit chance as much as possible to maintain a higher average damage. This do work for PvE too, but in a lesser degree.

At start when the MF patch striked and i saw the Assasin stats i thought the same.
Then i i started and do some maths and in anverage go full zerk is often better then mix match.
For example i used an old side (of course with old crit dmg, but because it is just zerk/assa the effect is the same) with asc zerk armor+trinkets without anything else and just changed the stats of the LB

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|3.5l.0.0.0.0|0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|5g.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.0.2s.0.3s.0.2s.0.3s.0.2s.0|0.0.0.0.0|0.0|0.0.0.0.0|e

under effective power u can see in comparison that u do more dmg with zerk bow.
Of course These numbers are very dry but i believe them.
Keep in mind that u loose direct power on non crits and gain lesser heavy crits with kitten set.

Prysin.8542:

LB does not give ANY buffs to pets.

Hunters Shot grants 10s swiftness to pet
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hunter%27s_Shot

when did they test it with the Group? after release? After months without new Maps?
Sure at start it was a bit funny, everything was new, and the fall downs were good for the “LOL”. But the Problem with the map started when the first tactics came out.
heavy bunkers with fear/knockbacks at hammer
Stealth—> pull —>win
a test Group for one day is nothing that could speak for the whole gamer community.

some changes will be nerfed anyway.

The Axe AA Might is in 1v1 okay, but probably too strong against mesmers, other rangers or all in all People with adds.
With just 3 Points in NM we are able to stack 25stacks of might in somehow 8s with just AA against more then one foe on our pet. Thats less effort for a big buff. While we can go full tank, our pet will do incredible dmg, even without Points in BM, but for big effort a 00635 trait build with some might runes and in theory any stats we want and we have an easy Job. Our sustain Comes from SoS what we can now use in any build for much more tankiness. Add “Protect me!” and we are almost unkillable.
i think anet should have added might on AA on first bounce with a longer Duration but no might on second or third bounce.

The Glassbow build will be incredible strong. Entangle the foe, RF him with SotW, maybe Barrage to Keep ur distance and AA him to death before he Comes too Close to u. Power Ranger evolves to Burst Ranger.
The most other Players will not handle it well because we are known as the “sustained dmg class”. They will QQ about and anet will Balance it out.

Of course a nice buff, but what it makes too strong is that the Strongest Signets ingame are now usable in General. i think that was a mistake.

dudes…just wait and test it.
I cant understand why some People thinks in WvW the trait would be gimmicky.
IMO in zerg it means perma 10% because almost everyone has some sort of movement condis.
This trait is good, ist okay enough to be a ranger trait. Not every kitten trait Needs to be OP as hell just because some of u want to feel like a god.

oh right, any date when ur Ranger Team is playing?

while we are here to see that anet really reads our Posts:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/PvP-Ranger-Trait-Changes-discuss/first#post4065618

the trait changes in BM i already brought up. Im sure i suggested it already before May but idk when anymore.

i think the new ranger improvements is a good reason for a new stream, how u explain the buffs and what we can create out of it. Maybe together with Jcbroe and Durzla

solrik.6028:

Pro-tip: Start fights with pets stowed. Thank me

in fact is that a good tip when u use 1) on pet swap traits like poison master or the AoE Vigor trait and 2) not running Spiders.
I often see rangers that use Spiders and do not use the great ability that the F2 last for 30s on a 30s CD. I use them before i even see a foe.

after patch rapid fire should be renamed when we use RtW
“AK 47 Fire” is a better Name i think.

The current 60260 power survival build would work even better after patch and 40640 for prysins Combo…or 4424..seems like we will see a lot of new power builds in next time

I just imagine how i could use my old aristocracy runes with 6 in NM and some Duration bufffood and run through a zerg with endless Might stacks…

Now we now the Plans for Ranger.
Personally i expect that BM, probably a Power BM will rise in Ranger Meta game.
With the General active from Signets the most tanky build in past of the ranger gets a bit more tankiness then before with SoS. and the Dmg will be higher coz of SotW and SotH.

With Axe AA we will will be might machines. With one of the three +45% might Duration runes (Strenght/Hoelbrak/Aristocracy) and 6 in NM we gain 5.25s Might per hit. In 1v1 ist up to 4-5 stacks and in zerg? HALLELUJAH! It was never so easy in Zerg fight to stack 25 Might.
And as a side note: axe ranger will Counter ranger imo.

i think a A/T+S/H weapon set will be as a BM pretty much the best choice.
Sword AA stacks in General might on pet, the Axe AA now too if we use Fortifying Bond. It will be kitten easy to stack 25 stacks might on them. Remember: everytime we gain one stack might, independent from Duration, the pet gains 10s of it. So i understanded it from tooltip. And i dont want to say before it was a struggle to apply many might stacks on pet!

Ranger can stack might good too. The called weapon set can Combo really well with the fire field. Maybe we can Switch it. but in head i imagined Torch#5 – Weapon swap – Horn#5 – Sword#2 chain.
For Pve/wvw a cleric/apoth armor set could work as hybrid. For me some People seem to Forget that Might stacks condi dmg too, so might builds are good hybrid builds aswell.
While S/H is more power, the weapons should be Cleric and A/T apoth. but maybe its not the best for the build, idk i am no great theory crafter.

So to conclude i think a strong build will come around focused around tanky ranger and hard hitting mighty pet.

Now your theorys, my hyping friends

jcbroe.4329:

Chrispy.5641:

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

It’s a nerf and a buff. The other side of the buff is that on top of the recharge speed, traited, we now have a 48 second recharge elite that allows us to interact with the “on elite” runesets, which is a HUGE bonus.

“two stupids, one thought” we german say xD

Chrispy.5641:

Through all the shiny changed There was actually a dirty nerf or two….

Bear F2’s can be blocked now. Kind of needed to happen though.

Entangle cooldown was reduced by 60%, but skill effect was reduced by 75%.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

nevertheless the skill effect never lasts so Long as in description. The vines can be destroyed fast and with condi cleanse u could get out of them.
So i think in effect it is more a buff right?

And what i throw out here is that entangle can have a cd from 48s with the Adept trait for it. Rangers will have the ability to use runes like Lyssa

vincecontix.1264:

I can already see the rangers are op and need to be nerf threads coming.

Power BM will be too strong

KARL! BE HONEST! THE BM TRAITS CHANGE WAS INSPIRED BY ME! COME ON! xD

my WvW weapon set up is LB/A+H. So in zerg Axe ranger will have perma might and from that a lot i mean in theory over 10 stacks with few AA?

anet has the idea with the BM traits from me :o

The feeling after it:

http://theslurpeeman.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bear-high-five.jpg

WE DID IT!!!

I wonder if anet collected all tooltip mistaked after release and thought…maybe we ckittene them when we have zero plan what to write in our patches…
And now i am wonder if they already used all of them..

We thought that maul hits too hard so we decided to nerf the dmg
I think rangers are now better balanced then before.
The rest works as intended.

Okay good to know
Do u already have a build for zealot?
And do somebody know if the two life steal effects of the runes of vamp and scavenge work together?

it would be helpful to add the Kind of weapon to the recipes we can buy.
Would be against People who choosed the wrong recipe.

Chrispy.5641:

At one time I had 11 separate sets, but I needed the money so I salvaged a few of them, I only have 6 full exotic sets of armor right now (with ascended thrown in all over the place).

Berserker with Scholar runes.
Cleric with Water runes.
Magi with Exuberance runes.
Rabid with Undead runes.
Soldier (I use different cheap Runes almost every time I use it).
Rampager with Pirate Runes.
I used to also have a set of Apothecary, Shaman, Settlers, and Dire, and I am still working on getting a full set of Zealot’s and Celestial, as well as Nomad. Not in too much of a rush for any of those though.

There isn’t really a set that I prefer to use over the other.

Chrispy u had a Shaman and a magi set? can i ask for ur builds?

guys stop mwith the idea of a Petition
The Forum rules dont allow it and anet will never take it serious because they already know that everyone hates this map.

Why this map is still in soloQ could have two reasons:
1) they dont care
2) they are working on one of the maps we saw months ago in a stream about pvp map creation and intend to replace skyhammer with the new one.

Izaya.2906:

Terravos.4059:

Never Forget My friends…never forget

It would be fun if we get a water world patch.

Dungeon purely underwater, pvp/wvw maps purely underwater. LFG’s would be like “RANGERS ONLY – NO NOOBS” lol.

underwater is probably not noobfriendly enough for anet.
And all in all was underwater fight a bit unbalanced. Guards Engis and Rangers were the kings underwater while thiefz should not even try to fight another one in water.

Of course it is a lot of fun for the ones who know how to Play there. But the most cant handle it and describe it as not fun.
I hope anet bring water fights back because it was real fun, they just to Balance it out and make it more appealing for others.

The balance patch will be probably hit the earliest in 8 weeks.
Every two weeks two professions, then a waiting time with up to one month.

in my opinion skyhammer can stay in SoloQ
the only kitten anet Needs to do is that everyplayer get the same rewards and a win or loose do not Count in ladder.
I mean in such an unbalanced map the winner cant get any honor because of that. It just means the Team has the better kitten CC/fear/knockback/pull builds or Plays against 4 or 3 People.
And a loose is no disgrace just because the called reasons.

And Anet should in General do not Count 4v5 in ladder. When the 5th isnt there since start then the match isnt fair. That. Is. Fact.
When someone leaves in mid of game, the Party was just so bad that it is just time wasting to Play anymore and would had lost anyways.
I had some minutes ago a 4v5 in soloQ and we lost 450:500 and we 4 were great Players and we still lost just because one was missing

Soldier for zerging
Berserk for almost everything in PvE
settler for shout ranger in WvW for the dolyak escort Service
Carrion for Spirit for Group Support
Dire/Rabid for Trap bunker in zerg
Valkyry/Cavalier for a crit bunker

More sets are planned

Prysin.8542:

Wall of smart stuff

Ist our luck that the most Player underestimate the power of rangers and their pets. The best way to Counter a BM ( i was one of the second Generation of Beastmaster, i got this build from a friend who was invited to Paradigm) is just bursting the pet down and a BM has more Trouble. The most dont know that i have the Feeling.

yes i know all pets have some conditions, but some are not interesting, look at devourer, i just played a devourer underwater for the double stun. When they Change pet attacks in a smarter way, that attack could be on ground OR it the Change could be merged with the ideas in the thread u bring up last time.
Our pets could Need a bit torment or Retaliation, and their shouts like from drakes and Moas should be a a real AoE with a Change in CD and effect.

I have to disagree that almost all pets have some regen effect. Bear, drakes, Moas, the Fern hound have some, but the most used pets, cats, Dogs, birds, Spiders have not.
Personally i think 1000 is too much, i think around 500 would be enough, maybe 600 because we Need 560 to bring Regen over 200HP/s.

Regarding your merge ideas i have some doubts.
To merge the two pet condi traits is nice, but they should stay as Malicious Training as normal Adept Tier. Alone with the Change in MM we have two traits missing. The minor should be more related to the opening strike or Vulnerability in General, every crit of ur pet gives one stack Vuln or something like dat.
the missing WS Adept can be filled with some kitten. WS is a great Trait line in General, it doesnt Need new cool stuff.

The heal/boon pet trait merge gives us a new NM Adept trait. THE Chance for a Little trait to make shout rangers more interesting.

the merge with agility Training…maybe better to make it passive, even i am no real fan of it, idk.
The last Trait Fusion is very nice for Team Play, all in all the pet Family traits should be changed to be for all pets.

and while i agree with most of your idea i must say… just no to ur BM traitline idea. The pet buff would just be exclusive for BM Players like u, and that isnt the solving of the Problem.
A Little pet buff yes okay, but for all without forcing rangers back to BM meta.The BM line Needs to be balanced around the pet buff and not be the pet buff at all.

Prysin.8542:

i will concede at this point that pet DPS should be increased. I say player DPS is comparable to other professions DPS output, but our mechanic/extra damage is what puts us behind.

Pet DPS itself needs a boost of almost 20 to 30% for us to be in line with warrior, ele, thief and mesmer. This would make us extremely strong 1v1, so perhaps the pet DPS boost should be a split between increasing coefficiency values and BM points adding more stats then now?

as i know is anet against buffing skills or traits they already nerfed before.
when we watch back at BM nerf last year (25.6.13/sky pirates/torment/aquaman Patch) :

Pets
•Armor Fish: Bite: Reduced the damage by 50%.
•Bird: Slash: Increased the damage by 15%.
•Eagle: Lacerating Slash: Reduced the damage by 50%.
•Raven: Blinding Slash: Reduced the damage by 34%.
•Canine: Bite: Reduced the damage by 27%.
•Devourer: Twin Darts: Reduced the damage by 20%.
•Drake: Bite: Reduced the damage by 27%.
•Insect Swarm: This skill can no longer fire behind the drake.
•Drake: Lightning Breath: Reduced the damage by 17%.
•Feline: Maul: Reduced the damage by 50%.
•Jaguar: Stalking: Critical chance increase while in stealth reduced to 25%.
•Jellyfish: Tentacle Slash: Increased the damage by 50%.
•Jellyfish Blue: Chilling Whirl: Decreased the damage by 33%.
•Moa: Peck: Reduced the damage by 7%.
•Pig: Jab: Reduced the damage by 25%.
•Shark: Bite: Increased the damage by 10%.
•Spider: Spit: Increased the damage by 10%.

in some cases the dmg Output of pets would almost as high like in old BM times.
(for math noobs, loosing 30% dmg and after a while get 30% back is not the same: 0,7*1.3=0,91)
I dont want a BM time back, so when a buff then a smart buff in increasing the coefficients and buffing the pet attacks in look at Utility and new conditions and boons for some pets.
And when a raw stat increase of pets happens, the BM trait line Needs a Change that the dmg and defense increase from BM line is not that big anymore.
But that can be difficult because changing it in % like most other Class specific lines would just increase it even more.

I want a third mainhand option. Mace would be okay.
Staff would be great yes. But ranger is no caster class.
And staffs are more aoe weapons and anet is against an aoe able ranger.

What would be nice would be staffs as close combat weapon for us a la bojutsu or chains as 1H or 2H weapons

can someone please explain the idea to me again in short and in easy? xD i cant fully understand how it works

dat wall of text…here is mine

I prefer Option A
Under that falls the idea from Ltomato with Evasion on F3 on 10s CD
and my idea that we could Need a new Little Icon where we can see the skill Rotation of the pet. The Skill Icons we can see in the Pet Menu could have finally a use.
With that Change the Survivability of our pet rises, our Teamwork because we can time our attacks with the Pet Skill UI and the curve of learning how to fight with a pet rises faster then before.
For now i cant say if a player Needs more skill for ranger or less. I mean with F3 we Need to watch our pet and act if it gets to Close to heavy AoE or something like that, but with an Evasion we gain more room for mistakes then we had before.

i am no fan of the idea to have two pets at once. For an elite yes, would be funny, but i think that could bring a bigger Problem to WvW ranger then now.
In zerg we have the ability to swap the pet before it get killed, up to 3 times is that possible in average before we gain the 60s CD. With BOTH pets in zerg would just create the Problem that we can loose both pets at once. And this will happen for sure and i dont know if that could help to improve the ranger.

Nevertheless the idea is creative and it creates an idea for me.
What about to bring your “Passive Pet” idea to your only pet if we bring it on passive mode?
We click on passive and the “Aggressive skill set” changes to “Passive skill set”.
The F2 ability changes and we can use the defensiv capabilities. Here my idea with the pet skill Rotation window could help, without skill Rotation, it can be changes to the second defense skill.
But that Need changes for a lot of pets, for example fern hound, is the AoE Heal the active or passive? when it stays active and it gets a second passive, is that okay? bunker pets? Or it becomes the passive skill and it gains a new aggressive skill.
Both F2 could share the same CD or just the same activation, not all aggressive and passive F2´s can be equal to share the same CD.
What do u think, Prysin?

Is a simple increase of the Leash range not enough? i mean yeah nice Imagination to bunker Close and ur pet fights far, but is that really needed? it would be just useful when our pets Count as Player on a Point.

10% from OS of u and ur pet + 5% from remorseless, up to 10% from rapid fire, some stacks in that time from QD and that in a great uptime because of the fast regain of OS…idk extreme strong when u go full power

3) Ranger are not bad, just a lot of Bad player play Rangers

This describes the whole Ranger Forum in one sentence.

2) Ranger has little room for error unlike other Profession

This describes the whole game Play of a ranger in one sentence.

Ranger were useless in old times. but the WvW veterans put ranger Utility in the trash since then they dont care about the updates ranger recieved.
Ranger can do more useful stuff then the most think, not just “i can give dat to you”. Experienced Rangers know how to help the zerg.

And to dungeons, just dont care. Experienced dungeon runner dont care about classes, just bad Player think that kitten of weak ranger and are the first who wipe hard at Kholer.

Let me tell that to u as a ranger with 3400h

Durzlla.6295:

BurrTheKing.8571:

I like the unblockable idea, but making it reapply after X amount of time or attacks doesn’t really fit the name. Maybe have it be applied on weapon swap as well as when you begin combat so for a LB/GS build you’re making Maul much more reliable as it’s now unblockable as well. Depending on how effective that is you might have to add a ICD but that would still means you can get the Vuln stacks you need early in the fight while still having decent access for prolonged engagements.

Having it be on swap also means the name still makes sense because it’s the “Opening Strike” of that weapon.

Opening Strike could be referring to the enemies defenses IE: you’re opening up their armor and making a vulnerable area.

Seems Logical =|

OR..Anet just changes the Name.

The unblockable idea is okay. Good against guards who enter the fight always with aegis.

+10% crit chance as passive + 7-8% with spotter without trading in precision…mhh sounds interesting to have in average 20% crit chance. That would help my valk/kava crit bunker.
But dont know if thats okay

ItIsFinished.9462:

Prysin.8542:

Ryan.9387:

What is your team’s bracket and name?

Think we are in the third bracket, and i think the team name was “bearbow”…. dunno, i just signed up.

Team consists of Durrzla, JCBroe, myself, ItsFinished and Quick.

Don’t forget about Sevans. He’s our sub.

Fluffball.8307:

Is that mainly as a joke, or are you planning on advancing? Or both?

It’s for real. We plan on doing the best we can. We are positive that going all the way is near impossible. Even to the semi-finals is going to be difficult. We do expect to win a few though. So we will see. Our team consists of 5 Rangers who have never played together in team que yet. Last night it was just 4 of us and only 3 were on teamspeak. Out of the 5 matches we played, we won 3. And we were mainly testing out different builds, trying to click as a team etc.

snow.8097:

Prysin.8542:

Ryan.9387:

What is your team’s bracket and name?

Think we are in the third bracket, and i think the team name was “bearbow”…. dunno, i just signed up.

Team consists of Durrzla, JCBroe, myself, ItsFinished and Quick.

A Team with different Ranger builds, just bearbows or like Sensotix did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZCMg4YG_w8
?

Haha, I’m sure we will mess around with an all Spirit team just for the LOL’s. But, in the actual tourny I highly doubt it. Although, depending on the other team comp you never know. If it’s an AOE heavy team we were going against, then most likely not.

Just for additional info, that was not just random tq. It was top 50 team q xD
So i think u have a good chance with it

Prysin.8542:

Ryan.9387:

What is your team’s bracket and name?

Think we are in the third bracket, and i think the team name was “bearbow”…. dunno, i just signed up.

Team consists of Durrzla, JCBroe, myself, ItsFinished and Quick.

A Team with different Ranger builds, just bearbows or like Sensotix did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZCMg4YG_w8
?

A elite skill just to revive the pet? why should someone equip it
Rather add this to a shout to make it more usable. Add this effect to S&R…or as an side effect of RaO

yes i saw yesterdays stream, i was “safidelray” if u remember

I never played in NA or watched streams there, but when i hear from a friend, a great PvP Guard, that the NA Player are weaker and i saw yesterday u killed someone with SB crits around 440…i could believe it a bit.
But to be fair, in EU the typical WvW´er are just strong in zerg, outside they are weak or Play the current EU OP-meta.

yeah thats true Play condi shid or bunker shid or all in all passive Play and you win.
In general i have the Feeling in EU Player rather 1vX u than do it 1v1. Thats what make me sick.

Prysin i think u come from norway? why are u playing in NA when the prime time there is so late for us Europeans

did i miss the wvw stream? or was it a short stream?

because i would like to see ur celestial build in Action and ur Rabid trapper