Guild Wars 2

Toast.6459:

Zenyatoo.4059:

Toast.6459:

Zenyatoo.4059:

Vayra.3290:

They are meant to be long-term achievements that very few people, if any, get. It’s why they’re called “Ultimate . . .”

I dont think you quite understand how completely impossible it is.

This isnt long term
this is Anet will have shut down the GW2 servers before anyone gets them

You never played GW1 did you? Those servers have been up for seven years, with no mention of going down any time soon. R15 Hero took people years, did you ever see anyone whine about that? No.

Since it seems a lot of people forgot about this title, or more likely never even knew about it, let me break it down.

“You would need to win 2,509 times consecutively to gain the 100,000 fame needed to max this title. This would take over 500 hours of holding Halls.”

Since that never happened, we’ll assume an average group of high ranked players would hold halls 5 times consecutively. For the purpose of an ideal situation, we’ll also assume this group jumped to halls with only one prior fight. Winning the first fight nets you 1 fame, then the first halls win would net you 3, the second 6, the third 10, the fourth 16, and the fifth 24, for a total of 60 fame a run. That’s 1667 runs about, figuring wait time for matches of at least 30 seconds, and a match time of at least 10 minutes comes out to around 98353 minutes, 1639 hours, 68 days, or around 2 and a half months of constant playing to achieve the title.
This is an idealized situation, in reality it took considerably longer than that. It took the first person to get it somewhere around 3 years 4 months.

So are these titles slightly illogical? Sure. Impossible? No, just really time consuming. It’s likely they’ll be adjusted in the future anyway.
Tl;dr: Titles that take long periods of time aren’t out of the norm in Guild Wars, in my opinion, Hero in GW1 was harder to get than any of the WvW titles.

I did play gw1. Check your math there. It requires 2 and a half months of continuous perfect play right?
Yeah go check mine earlier up on the thread. Try 2.8 YEARS of perfect play. You’re arguing that a GW1 title was hard, and thus we shouldnt complain, despite it being literally THIRTEEN times EASIER and SHORTER than one of these titles.

So yeah. Re-think your math there. This isnt “impossible” in that only a few people in the world will get it. This is impossible in the fact that it is literally not kittening possible. If it took 3-4 years to get 2 1/2 months worth of perfect play, then it would take 30+ years to get the SMC title.

DO YOU SEE THE ISSUE HERE?

No, challenging titles is the idea. You whining that they need to be adjusted isn’t going to change anything. You can bet money that ANet is already aware of this. Are you aware the WvW update is next month? Wait until then, if their still the same, whine about it then.

Wouldn’t before the updates be the smarter idea? I mean, by all means Anet most probably hasn’t really run the math on some of these achievements and bring it up before a patch might be exactly what is needed.

Acelerion.6820:

Remove down state.

Alternatively replace #1 with a small ally targetable heal, #2 with guardian push back, #3 with a small duration group buff, and #4 as is.

Didn’t they say they were going to remove downed state a long time ago? I kept saying, must be next patch, but its never come.

Columba.9730:

Aion, Warhammer, SWTOR, daoc, Eq2. Sorry, I am correct. I guess I should say decent games. More denial though, no surprise.

What were the decent games you were talking about, because they are all bad ones.

Columba.9730:

No other game allows players to remain in stealth while damaged or to remain in stealth while attacking. All othe games REDUCE movement speed dramatically while stealthed.

BOTH INCORRECT. Please try again.

I don’t understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying players who don’t put much time and effort into developing skill should be on top of a ladder or what? Im completely confused with your thoughts. I run into alot of casuals who play League. Its one of the most popular games in the world for a reason. Casuals play COOP vs AI and they enjoy it and there is constantly content (heros) coming out that offer new gameplay (all of which is free unlike GW2). Its seems like your hung up on your brothers gameplay and feel you have to play the game the way he does.

4 months later and no progress on a simple task. Where is this game headed?

There is obviously alot of grinding in the game. The argument that you “don’t need to” is completely redundant. There is only so much content in this game. Seeing Anet implementing all these carrots on a stick for people scares me. Why? Because its a clear indication by them that they are not intending on giving this game the development attention it deserves. They brought out a pretty good game. Now they are dropping it like a dead horse. It saddens me.

Didn’t we announce the peace treaty between JQ and SOR this week to double team BG? Or was that supposed to be hush hush?

So the point of this thread is, the game is bad, but it could be worse. Is that the point?

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

etiolate.9185:

I don’t buy into that. I feel the trend is moving far more towards horizontal than vertical progression. TF2 very active and the biggest online gaming phenomenas are MOBAs based around easy to attain progression and longevity established through the gameplay and variety of choices rather than power levels.

Yes, but I’m turned away from TF2 because I am an active liability to every team for not being quick enough to do much. Much the same on MOBAs such as League; I am nowhere near good enough to play League.

Purely skill-based games suffer from not being inclusive, despite giving people “leveled playing fields”. It still cannot be as bad as poker, which is also almost purely skill-based and claims a lot of unsuspecting players every year.

League has COOP vs AI. It caters to everyone. Even if your bad and want to play PvP, you can play solo and your ranking will drop you into a skill bracket you belong in, which uses a rating system similar to ELO.

Pvp.2758:

sostronk.8167:

Any score updates?

Watch my livestream for continuous score updates

I would, but my boss doesn’t like me watching videos at work

Any score updates?

Mercucial.6759:

Wanderer.3248:

Some people are just so addicted to rare Internet pixels, that they’ll spend all their time, in a game they payed for, avoiding having fun to get them.

Annnnnddd that’s where your wrong.

To those people, chasing those pixels is fun. Who are you to judge?

Do you see a problem with it?

For me personally, I have played all the PvE in the game. Most of the “dynamic events” I have done hundreds of times and just refined it down to a “fastest process”. This to me isn’t mentally stimulating. Players give me a random element to gameplay that PvE does not. PvE could keep me entertained if they constantly provided new content, but Anet seems clear they would rather people grinded the same content thousands of times rather than provide new and engaging content.

I still PvE because WvW is not rewarding enough. I need to farm PvE to fund my WvW.

Open up your achievements and go to daily. There are check boxes there now. You customize your “side box” this way.

Hey guys, Im looking for advice from players who have done the guild missions. Me and my brother are our own guild. We pull about 4k influence a week. We currently have Art of War level 4 done. As I understand it, we can start doing guild missions when getting Art of War 6. We have the influence to get there, but can these missions be done with two players? We aren’t really wanting to spend influence to get stuff we can’t do. I understand we can invite others, but we are a “family guild” and would prefer to keep our little family private. If worse comes to worse, we might try inviting others, but it migth stop us from bothering. Any players with experience doing guild missions know if all or some of the missions are possible with 2?

I don’t think the score at present really reflects JQs "scare"last week as much as it reflects BGs morale this week. Alot of JQ were pretty casual about last week and were happy if we lost first place last week to BG because it provided some competition. As a few people said, “lets not lose any sleep over this, we are likely to be fighting them for a fair few weeks now”.

Obviously not all of us had the same attitude. I put in only couple of extra hours over the course of the week. I think its important not to see WvW as a duty and I think alot of JQ players know this and is a big reason JQ has been a stable server for pretty much since the start of GW2 WvW.

Anyways, Im out, time to go farm some more PvE!

I just report them for botting. I know its not the same thing, but its the closest of the options.

jportell.2197:

They already have a 3 second debuff… Culling takes effect here… I think the debuff should apply whether they cause damage or not.. This would make them choose wisely before they started using stealth…

It would only be a nerf to bad players, but yeah I agree.

One moment pls, popcorn in microwave.

Grizledorf.5290:

Doomdesire.9365:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Unfortunately, I’m forced to agree with the OP.

Stealth is just a little too overpowered.

Scenario:
You know there is a thief approaching…. he thinks you did not see him enter stealth and begin advancing toward your location… but you saw it all right.

You begin to prepare for the duel…

You can’t hit him with projectiles while he is approaching…. but you might be able to tag him with some melee once he is in range…

…but how do you know when he is close enough?

You begin channeling your block skill…. but nothing strikes you before it is over.

You swing your weapon, and it seems as if you’ve hit nothing.

You swing it again, and still… your adversary remains cloaked.

Did you hit him? Is he even here yet?

You dodge roll just to be safe…. he has got to be here somewhere by now.

BAM

You are immobilized. You finally see the thief, but you are completely helpless as he takes large chunk out of your health bar.

Knowing that the assault will not stop, and your death will be quick otherwise, you use your stun-break skill to break free and actually move from defensive to offensive for a split second.

Your opponent is fragile. Just a hit or two has already taken a significant portion of his health away.

You use your heal skill.

You’ve got what appears to be the upper hand for a moment, but your offensive doesn’t last for very long because the thief has once again stealthed himself.

You look at your health bar… and it is pretty low. One or two more hits from the thief will surely be the end of you.

This time, you flail around like mad mashing your attack skills that will actually function against a stealthed opponent You dodge roll. You dodge roll again. You continue to attack the air.

The thief comes unstealthed…. in downed-state. You did it!

But it was just a stroke of luck.

You were just swinging around your weapon and dodge rolling around blindly.

There will be other times when you will not be so lucky.

You can actually predict accurately where he is during first contact as the limit on time per stealth(3s for most), they would be running towards you before the stealth disappears. If he enters stealth before he comes into combat with you, he is doing a few things

1) Using hide in shadows(bad move)
2) Using shadow refuge (Also, bad move, he won’t be able to use it later in the fight where it is most critical or if he decides to run)
3) Blinding powder

It’s highly unlikely that a thief would enable contact with a person in stealth due to the fact that is ruins the chain(they will get revealed on steal and will not be able to backstab).

You can also tell if you hit a thief by your auto attack chain. If it advances to the next skill, you hit him, pretty good tool. Although I wouldn’t recommend auto attack unless you are a high DPS auto attack profession. If you have AoEs, do not throw them randomly around. Throw them under you. If he wants to attack, he’s going to get hit.

If you see a thief, there’s a 90% chance he’s using a dagger offhand to stealth. Dodging that will deny him 90% of his stealth skills and waste his initiative. It’s very predictable and it has more than long enough cast time to dodge.

You forgot thieves can steal items that give them buffs and a few of the items they can steal that gives them buffs gives them stealth and makes you blind.

edit- I accept the challenge in your signature.

There is a trait that can make thieves stealth whilst stealing. Although I don’t use it because of the other options available are more useful. They don’t always get buffs thouogh. Some of the steals I find quite useless, like getting poison when your not building any condition damage or condition duration. The randomness with stealing, I don’t like it so much.

EDIT: Although this is getting off topic. The OP is pointing out thieves ability to use stability whilst in stealth.

If your having problems with a thief whilst playing a guardian, theres learn to play issues.

Aeonblade.8709:

Man, If it only takes 120 hours to get a fully geared character I’m glad I picked this game back up!

I bought it back during release and ended up returning it, but was fully engulfed by Rift’s expansion at the time, not because GW2 was bad or anything. After months of grinding dungeons/raids and 300 hours of play time later I’m still not in the best gear in that game.

To the OP: Yes there is a time investment, but if it’s only 120 hours for max level and gear, GW2 headed in the right direction.

120 hours to get a max level geared character. How many more if you want to experiment with builds in say WvW?

Zenyatoo.4059:

by the way. Can someone from BG come collect this poor fellow? He seems to be stranded in Lions arch on the JQ server, and he apparently doesnt like our quaggans very much ;o

Hes been stuck in Jade Quarrys LA all week :p I noticed his talk has turned from huehue your bad blackgate is owning you to QQ. Poor fellow. Full time job trolling an entire server. I say leave him there though, nothing gives me more motivation than someone trash talking.

darkace.8925:

sostronk.8167:

But there is such a thing as “engaging content”, which is something that removes the grind.

That’s entirely subjective. A game either engages you, or it doesn’t. This is true of all games, regardless of the amount of content. But we’re not talking about subjective grinds…“I enjoy it, so it isn’t a grind” vs “I hate it, so it is a grind.” We’re talking* about objective grinds; treadmills on which players must run if they wish to participate in varying aspect of the game. This game doesn’t have any of those.

• At least we would be talking about required grinds if TC had bothered to actually formulate any kind of an argument…had given actual substantive reasons for his statements… instead of making a vague post created solely to start an argument.

Its really not subjective at all. Just ask players if there is grind in this game. Then go ask players who play other games like LoL if there is grind in that game…

I have 8 characters and about 14 level 400 crafts (did some a few times). But thing is, I have absolutely no use for sub-T6 materials. T5 materials aren’t so bad, you can always promote them, but its usually better to sell them. But it seems this game has no use for mats below this after a short period of time. Are these mats going to become completely useless and unsellable in the future?

Sounds like someone got owned by a thief :p

darkace.8925:

sostronk.8167:

But there is only so much content in the game because they use this grind to keep people in the game rather than incorporate enough content to keep people engaged.

Newsflash: There’s no such thing as “infinite content”. Whether hidden behind a grind or not, content is ALWAYS finite. ALWAYS.

But there is such a thing as “engaging content”, which is something that removes the grind. To give an example, I am and ex LoL player and basically your doing the same thing every time you play with very little variation. Yet at not one stage did I even as much as think of the word grind. And this is even in reference to player vs AI type game as I know player vs player does bring with it alot of variation.

What if I want to do it for 8 characters? Whats my timeframe here?

Citadel of Flame
Ascalonian Catacombs
Twilight Arbor
Sorrow’s Embrace
Honor of the Waves
Crucible of Eternity
Caudecus’s Manor
The Ruined City of Arah

I haven’t done AC since the patch, Ive heard its harder now. Also, Im more of a FoTM player.

Happyfool.8951:

Let’s face it. There is a grind, admit it, accept it, BUT it is not necessary to grind in order play the game.

I see the issue a bit further than this. There is a grind in the game that you do not have to participate in. But there is only so much content in the game because they use this grind to keep people in the game rather than incorporate enough content to keep people engaged.

kuora.5402:

Before we get into details and finger pointing, you need video proof of this incident, or you’re just lying. Sorry, I’ve been frustrated by these kind of incidents multiple times, but you do need proof.

But don’t post it here, or the forum moderators of GW2 will get very mad. Instead, can I suggest that you contact these guys;

blackgatewvw.com

Thanks for the link, ill post it there this arvo. Not finger pointing though as you can see. I just want people to keep an eye out for this because it was being done pretty blatantly in front of people. I just want people to spam report them, because I don’t trust Anet to respond to reports unless there are alot of them for an individual.

Jayne.9251:

sostronk.8167:

Stop talking about food guys. I didn’t bring lunch to work today and my work building is in lockdown because there is a shootout going on outside between the police and some bikey gang.

Really? Where’s this?

*calls newsroom

Brisbane! Already in some local news though.

Stop talking about food guys. I didn’t bring lunch to work today and my work building is in lockdown because there is a shootout going on outside between the police and some bikey gang.

They didn’t have tags displayed. All I know is they were a female human thief. They had a whitey/grey color hair, which was the most noticeable feature to me.

I posted this in the results section, but its considered offtopic in that thread according to moderators. So Ive started a thread with the new topic to get this message out. I prefer a clean fight:

Guys, I don’t want to throw too much negativity out. Last night there was a Blackgate female human thief who was flying around and walking through walls. They were doing it to kill players on siege defending keeps etc. Basically they were flying up and killing siege carts and running through walls killing players on catapults whilst the zerg was attacking the gate. I have reported them and was killed a number of times by them. BG guys can you keep your eyes out for this player. They are pretty brazen and doing this in front of your zerg. If you guys see it can you report them.

Wierd, I actually think Gollems are underpowered lol. At least for their price.

I heard Russell Crowe recently got video evidence of UFO’s.

The first time I did Jade Maw this happened, which confused the hell outta me because people were telling me to watch the skulls and dodge as soon as it dissappeared if I didnt have a crystal. Since then it happens on rare occasions.

Id love to see all the kain guilds flock to SOR tbh. I think that would make T1 pretty interesting.

Pvp.2758:

sostronk.8167:

I prefer to skip breakfast and just have a smoke and a coffee.

Smoking is bad.

So is coffee, so it goes with me being a kitten and whatnot.

I prefer to skip breakfast and just have a smoke and a coffee.

Gestankfaust.4216:

Dailies and (not even valid…weeklies) is the main headline.

Like to join the topic kitten?

Wait..no…casue dailies are so easy it’s stupid. But you can’t do stupid stuff.

I like to spend most of my time doing “stupid stuff”.

Reaver.9256:

Definitely not guesting on Blackgate(only a fool would). We have overflows on MaW which noone guests too. Our server is just packed…..

Im not really interested in farming these events, although if I was going to guest farm them, I would go to overpopulated servers to save time. Jormag on my server the other day must have taken about 30 seconds for the entire event. Crystals were instantly downed, wall goes down, Jormag drops to 0% health and goes to phase 3 with 50% health reset and then gets dropped again before doing anything. As long as your high DPS and your only looking to farm the event I couldn’t think of a smarter way to speed it up.

Both are pretty kitten good. But Id recommend Warrior because you like ranged and I think they have better options there (Rifle single target, Longbow large AoE).

Ive heard rumors of them being dropped from FoTM, CoF and Arah. I’ve never known anyone to have one drop in a dungeon, but then again I’ve never known anyone who has had one drop. I’ve known plenty who have purchased them from the Trading post.

Im really really really good looking, but Im not that funny, so Ill stick with JQ

Fjandi.2516:

Laika.8795:

As for thieves guild, I’m not entirely sure how you think it is OP, they do very little damage and I only use them for blind/pull, and very rarely. Anyone would ditch it for SR tho, and honestly I’d prefer it as an elite anyway, so I’m all for it, room for another more practical utility.

I don’t think it’s op at all. It simply has no reason to exist. It’s just a stupid skill. Sr would be much better as an elite skill (and the cd should be slightly increased, 90 sec would be fair) plus as you said this way you could use an utility slot for something else.

If your talking about Shadow Refuge and putting it in the elite skill, I personally would see this as a buff to thiefs, even if the CD duration was increased. I don’t use it often enough to warrant its short CD at present and its quite well countered by alot of classes IE guardians can pull you out, Necros can fear you out, Eles can AoE you, warriors can knock you out etc etc. And yeah, Im aware im agreeing with you

Need updates to persist with work!

John Smith.4610:

Cymatoperior.5942:

Geikamir.6329:

Cymatoperior.5942:

I passed by Maw yesterday while doing my dailies. Wasnt in time for the event but I saw one player linking a single rare and the rest saying he is lucky. ..

Exotic you mean. Rares are 100% or extremely close to it.

Nope I meant rare.

1. I’m pretty sure the maw has a virtually 100% rare drop for participating.
2. When I said those assumptions aren’t necessarily true, I meant they aren’t true. Over 10,000 unique sellers of ectos in the last 24 hours alone. What you are seeing is a supply shift, not an push up the supply curve.

Couple of times Ive got only Blue/Greens only. But its maybe 90%. I guess its probably more than 100% if you consider the times I have had multiple rares from the one chest. Also had my first ever exotic drop from it the two days back. I farmed this event to level my 8×80s so I was starting to think exotic chance from the chest was a myth.