Guild Wars 2

This is my first MMO. My impression of MMOs has always been that players are bad at PvP in MMOs. I just came upon the realisation that my impression was completely correct whilst reading this thread.

elderan.2638:

Yes, with the guaranteed rares from Orr temple events, globs are going to drop by a lot, if I had to guess I’d say back to 25s or less. I think that’s a good thing.

Not guaranteed. I got blues and greens from Grenth yesterday. But yes, more rares overall. RIP globs.

Im confused as to why this came up. I didn’t have the option to chose daily jumping puzzle and my monthly is not up yet?

One thing I have noted between a good commander and a bad one is the good commander is not always playing reactionary. The bad commanders find themselves chasing around the map. The good ones make the enemy chase them or pay for not doing so.

Also I think something that really sets the good from the great apart is build raport with their players.

So we get through and kill Grenth… the hard bit. I call in local to stay on Jenkins because the mobs spawn on him and can take him down quick. Oh look the zerg says, theres a mob all the way over there, I had better go AoE farm it. Jenkins dies. Its such an easy part of the mission but nobody has self control and I find myself having to solo defend jenkins so often. I hate you all.

(in open world) I don’t think I have completed them all. Hardest I have found is Grenth. The second hardest I have run into is the pirate in bloodtide coast and balthazar. Behind that probably Arah and Melandru. Anyone else got any harder or thoughts/suggestions for hardest boss with a chest reward?

I pull alot more aggro depending on how much damage Im doing. I run all classes in dungeons and my thief pulls the most aggro because it is doing the most damage, probably followed by my warrior.

SneakyErvin.3056:

@OP: You are seriously comparing ranger pets to clones and illusions?

Clones and illusions hit for a maximum of 15 damage at level 80. Versus structures they do 0 most oftenly.

If you are refering to phantasms then those are equal to your ranged attacks and follow the same rules, ecxept that they stay in world until killed and repeat their attack every 8 second (or close to that, depending on the individual phantasms attack cooldown).

Not true. My clone does around 1k-1.2k damage to cannons and other structures.

Assuming SOS go T2. They have put up a bigger fight this week than SOR, even now when most of the guilds have left…

I think they should remove swords altogether. I don’t think WvW needs training wheels anymore.

Shikigami.4013:

Whenever people talk about bots some players come with the argument “I don’t mind them, they just keep prices down”. This is so shortsighted and selfish that it just shows an immature and egoistical mindset. These bots operate for the goldsellers, the gold they make by selling the mats is sold to other players, harming the game and the company.

You could just as well say “Oh, I don’t mind burglars, they are good for the economy, they steal items so that people need to buy new ones”. Likewise: the more drugdealers the better, because they keep the prices on drugs down so the addicts have to commit fewer criminal acts to get their drugs. This brings down criminality, which is great, no? Yes, we definitely need more drug dealers.

Thats the whole point. Its not harming me, its helping me. Its only harming Anet and my opinion isn’t really high at present. So why do they expect me to detect bots, thats their job.

Warriors are the best for PvE and Dungeons.

The worst are Necros and engineers.

Guardians are quite good.

Rangers are quite good, but alot of noobs play them and give them a bad name.

Thiefs are problematic. You gotta build them right in dungeons. But alot of players who play WvW keep their build rather than switching out and it makes them pretty squish.

jportell.2197:

sostronk.8167:

What Im confused about is how this thread is supposed to be about stealth in WvW and how it came to purely focus on the thief. The thing is I think Veil is the most OP stealth ability in the game.

Veil has a 90 second cd with a 4 second stealth duration… 5 second if the Mesmer traits for it even then it only affects him… Most mesmers only use it at the request of their party members because the cooldown is obscenely long for a slot skill and the utility is minimal at best when compared to nullfield/feedback… You are also forgetting engi’s can do the same thing as veil when they toss an elixir… and Rangers can hide in plain sight… The difference here is the skills are not spammable and the players get no ADDED benefit of being in stealth other than hey you can’t see me… No extra damage in their attacks no condition removal from being stealthed nothing like that… Thief gets most perks and spammable stealth in game which makes sense to a degree but they need to take out some of the perks of stealth that are specific to a thief class. That is why they get griped about the most… Sure veil and the toss elixir are great… but nowhere near as potent as thief stealth skills.

Your obviously very inexperienced in WvW. Please talk to me when you are experienced and know what your talking about.

They are teleporting botters. I see them regularly. I don’t report them like most though. Why? Because the only effect that have on me is putting more materials into the TP and driving prices down, which is good for me. If Anet was serious about botting, they wouldn’t be asking players to do their job for them.

KStudios.2850:

LOCO.1785:

Mubarizun.6435:

Please don’t think you are winning your 1v1’s through skill. Most of us could not see you for more than a few seconds and did not have enough aoe to burst you down before you safely disappeared to the other side of the map.

The game engine and your artificially long invisibility are the reason for your wins.

Do you feel better now?

Well I don’t! Here I am, a ranger, roaming about with my forest friends. The utter epitome of ingame squishiness… and all I get in exchange for wanting warm soft hugs from other kittens like me is invisi-shanked in the face! Oh cruelty, oh woe! D’X

/doublefacepalmsob

Rangers are not squishy compared to thieves. In fact im getting around on my thief with 10k health, whilst the average ranger is getting around with twice this much health.

vespers.1759:

Art.9820:

Scumbag Mawile.6384:

Fact: Every person who comments ‘QQ moar’ and ‘L2P’ have Thief mains and don’t want their precious OPness nerfed away from them.

It’s more entertaining when you have to try, y’know.

Fact: Every person who complains about Thief being OP thinks WvW is about 1v1 fights….

i raise you this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7OYniHrGqE

how will you respond?

The zerg ignored him the entire time. They were clearly bad.

What Im confused about is how this thread is supposed to be about stealth in WvW and how it came to purely focus on the thief. The thing is I think Veil is the most OP stealth ability in the game.

Why hasn’t the new ascended gear been added to Fractals? Running fractals has become a waste of time when I could just be running 5 min CoF runs.

People always talk about all this stuff in the JP. I just jump in when Im told there is a mesmer providing portals. I take portal 1, followed by portal 2, then press f on the chest and return to the fight in EB. Am I missing anything?

Culling will never get addressed. Best to give up on that one and just know that sometimes you are going to die because there are actually 80 players there, not 2.

Some things I would like are more components in WwW only:

- Some different seige types, perhaps some that can be moved slowly.
- More upgrades available to buildings
- More PvE events that provide personal rewards (IE Grub)
- More PvE events that provide server rewards (IE Hylek, Quaggans) that can increase the benefit you already have. So say if you flip hylek, you get hylek guards, then if you cull mosquito population your hylek get (vet) upragaded.
- Siege despawn too quickly, I want to build AC to defend a keep it should be there the next day unless the enemy destroy it!

Thats about it, off the top of my head. I want more content. More things to learn. More tools to incorporate different tactics.

Personally I agree with you and throwing all these grind for gear components are there for one reason specifically: To keep people playing without investing in adding and developing new content.

RyuDragnier.9476:

JQ, I think at this point you’ve got nowhere to go. WvW must be incredibly boring without anybody to fight. How long will it be before you start losing guilds who want to have good fights? How long will it be before you have a server exodus to more fun WvW fights, and end up crashing down to the bottom?

I’m being totally serious when I ask this too, as now you have nowhere to go but down.

I believe the one difference is that JQ isn’t full of band wagon guilds. We will obviously lose from time to time. But JQ has never been lower than T2 and has spent most of its time in T1 since launch. Without checking, I believe its only been in T2 for 2 weeks and the rest have been in T1. It is a much less volatile server than alot of the other ones getting around struggling. We won’t fall apart like other servers just because we didn’t win T1, or we lose in T1 or we drop to T2.

pita spoon.5708:

Q6 : would you like 50 thieves like him on an borderland vs enemy zergs ?
How will you respond?

50 thieves vs 50 warriors… or d/d eles.. or ( insert here ).

Id take the 50 warriors TBH.

Rifter.6591:

FateZero.8536:

I ran Arah story mode and it counts. The other 4 I just did CoF path 1 for 4 times, lol.

Is CoF 1 fast to run? is that why people seem to like doing that one so much?

Its one of the quickest runs in the game. It literally takes less than 10 minutes and it is also one of the better known ways to farm gold in the game.

The one in wayfarer is really easy. You can actually run straight through it once you work out how the birds / red circles work.

I condone this necro.

Mubarizun.6435:

Please don’t think you are winning your 1v1’s through skill. Most of us could not see you for more than a few seconds and did not have enough aoe to burst you down before you safely disappeared to the other side of the map.

The game engine and your artificially long invisibility are the reason for your wins.

What about when I am winning 1v5’s. Is it skill then?

There is one and it is substandard to the average 1990s dungeon finder.

The recent change to boss chests is pretty major. But what is a boss chest?

Does it include:
1. Dragon chests
2. Dungeon boss chests
3. Jumping puzzle boss chests (IE SoD priest you fight in the JP)

And how can we be sure that a chest in the open world is necessarily a “boss chest”? I mean, do fights like the temple of melandru and assualt on arah count as bosses?

Beeca.9467:

Hmm so what bosses is this all together ? Does it include Dragons man so much for playing the way i WANT to play thanks Devs for nothing.

Id like to know what constitutes a boss chest as well. I assume it would include the dragons, but if so what else?

EDIT: Also, what about say the SoD jumping puzzle chest where you have to fight the priest.

So Im a little bit concerned about an experience I had last night. I was at the risen abomination event in Orr right after plinx. There was the usual zerg there. But there was one guy on the wall near the waypoint shooting from there. A couple of times he pulled aggro and as you know the abomination tries to go around to get him but then resets (invulnerable but doesn’t reset health) until he goes back to his area. It delays the process. Someone comments, “lets report this guy for botting and hopefully he will be banned”. A few people reply “I already have”. More come in saying “done” etc. If he was new to the area he probably didn’t even know he was slowing down the event and I had done this a couple of times when the event first started without knowing about the reset problem.

Thing is it is obvious he was not botting. He slowed down the progress of the event, sure. But he really hasn’t done anything wrong that would warrant a ban. Yet dozens of people have reported him for something so serious as “botting”. Then we get people in here complaining they have been banned for botting and wonder why.

I don’t get why people hate bots lol. I only see them as a benefit to me. They farm materials and drive down prices to an affordable level. Thats the only effect I see from them.

That said, I don’t see bots much anymore. I see some that “might be”, but no clear obvious ones. So either the bots go better or they got banned.

kevinskyrider.3271:

crewthief.8649:

fivekiller.1432:

crewthief.8649:

Verdict is still out on Blackgate and how they will fare in T1. JQ is proven, BG is not…yet. Not to mention, with all the recent transfers Blackgates’ identity has changed. We shall see I suppose. But I would warn against chest thumping before your server has even won a single match in T1. Like, ever.

BG has never done poorly in T1.

They were proving to be at least as strong as the current servers but were pushed out by SOR fighting a dead server.

BG fared well before all of this. BG will only fare better now.

I wouldn’t warn anyone against chest thumping.

Every server “chest thumps” and thats half the reason i read these threads. some people are getting way too aggravated by folks being proud/excited they are doing well in a game and making a post about it.

I say post away if you’re proud. Thats what forums are for.

Well, if you’ll reread my post, you’ll note that I never stated that BG ‘did poorly’ in T1. I said they’ve never ‘won’ a Tier 1 match…because they haven’t. And about the chest thumping, it’s generally better to chest thump when you’re actually winning, than chest thumping while you’re still playing in the Minor Leagues. Just saying, copy/paste can be a cold, cruel mistress, lol.

Please note that only a few people are “Chest-thumping” This does not mean the entire BG community is like this.

I’ll say it again, I’m sure BG will reenter T1 in hopes to give JQ and SoR a good match.

Also, to the other posts: Please don’t give in to troll-bait. There is no use arguing over spilled milk.

Personally I like other servers members chest thumping in here. Ive noticed when they do this it tends to motivate JQ to silence the servers doing it. This forum and these threads have a huge effect on what happens on the battlefield.

How does one become a “super server”. Didn’t BG only get nD and MERC? Or are there more guilds that transferred that I don’t know about?

EnRohbi.2187:

sostronk.8167:

Were we actually PvDooring or is that just more internet QQ. I haven’t played for about 9 hours and when I logged off we were around +400PPT with a zerg of about 60 SoR and 40 SoS getting around EB.

Not that I was there to say for sure,
But in my experience, if the opposing servers have any force what-so-ever on a map, they will be able to either hold or backcap at least a LITTLE territory

It was likely mostly PvDoor with a few stragglers not able to do anything.

Well your experience is different from mine. Ive experienced pushing servers off the map when they outnumber you.

Were we actually PvDooring or is that just more internet QQ. I haven’t played for about 9 hours and when I logged off we were around +400PPT with a zerg of about 60 SoR and 40 SoS getting around EB.

OMG Frozen Maw just got nerfed into oblivion.

Actually, from most of the discussion I have seen, most of the top tier servers are pretty happy with their position at present. JQ gets to face a new challenge formed by BG recruitment. SOR have a stable footing in Tier 1. BG are coming to tier 1. SOS have been falling for a while and having a few major guilds moving means their fall won’t be long and drawn out.

Anet should be promoting establishment of small guilds. One thing I have noticed with these large 500 man guilds is half their players are inactive. Why? Probably alot of reasons, but in such a large group im sure alot of people feel detached from the guild in a way that smaller personal guilds would.

I ran this today with my full crit build thief, who only has 10k health. I usually play fractals with my Necro who has 32k health. As the thief I didn’t get downed, although some of my allies did. I really don’t think its that hard, except for the casual gamer. 10k health is about as low as you can go. Even most rangers and warriors are getting around with well over 20k.

This was probably easier on my thief than Necro because I was able to “carry” whereas my Necro is more of a "support"build.

Khisanth.2948:

I sometimes have 90% crit on my thief.
Could be higher if I adjust things a bit.

The green color just means modified/effective/… It also means temporary. For a thief the most likely reason is having Signet of Agility which gives you +precision. It is temporary because you will lose that +precision if/when you activate the signet. You get it back once the skill recharage.

The signit might be it. Ill go test/sandbox it.

EDIT: Confirmed, this appears to be the case. Thx.

Behellagh.1468:

Use to mean the stats got adjusted due to having your level adjusted because of where you are.

But this is happening in Level 80 areas including Lions Arch, Southsun Cove and World VS World (these areas I can confirm). I assume, being an 80, they wouldn’t be adjusted in these areas as a level 80?

Brassnautilus.2941:

tkalamba.2541:

Ninein.4782:

This is going to be a cycle that repeats itself. Couple of months later SOR will be the victim of this cycle if they can’t break 3rd place.

We’ve come second for the past 2 weeks….

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/41/#history

you came second because them choo and FEAR threw more gear than any other guild in this game, and because this sos drama had been going on far more than 2 weeks…

The last bit of organized SoS was the week BG came t1, same week JQ became superserver. It is what it is…

Those that thought this super-server raise and fall thing will continue are terribly misinformed. Only reason SoS guilds has this way out (going to BG) was because all those rich Thai on BG, who could offer nothing more than cash (to buy gold). You guys expecting them to shoulder coverage during SEA time, think again. Those people barely had the fps to play AC, TA el oh el.

BG will not become stacked like Henge, or even ET with ruin. This paid xfer only adds salt to wound, and bad blood, lots of it Think about it, become 2nd rated citizens on a server that had already been beaten, and already proven it had not what it takes to stay in T1.

It’s a good thing tsym isn’t on the list, so maybe they will go down with the ship, I’m sure no server wanted their bad attitude and constant sucking in more than you guys did on SoS. Of this entire episode, ditching them is the one thing you’ve done right. Bravo!

I don’t think the ship will go right down. Tier 2 yes. Tier 3 unlikely.

Currently I am running a thief with full crit damage/crit chance. Ive noticed in the hero panel, once my crit chance goes above 60% the critical chance figure turns green. What is the changing of color in the figures meant to indicate? Im concerned there might be a critical chance cap at 60%, but can’t find any reference to a cap so maybe it means something or maybe an anomaly or bug? I really need to know because at full build + recipes etc I am doing around 70% crit chance and Id hate to think I was wasting stats for ~10% crit chance that isn’t being applied.

In all honesty, thumbs up to MERC for doing it. They are a big guild and its a big decision, but they were probably not going anywhere further with SOS. Its the way WvW is atm. Im guess as a JQ Oceanic I have my work cut out for me now

Is this legit? Which guilds are going where?

Josh P.1296:

MarMaster.6241:

Mohmohchan.4120:

sos is dead..

I’d like to see some sort of “statement” from some of the SoS guilds, before I believe that quote above. As the scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail goes “I’m not dead!”.

It will be. 3 other major guilds are threatening to leave.

Why?

Not sure if your saying your new to WvW? Id recommend you just join EB and follow the zerg. Make sure to keep up with the zerg. I roll a thief and specifically follow the enemy zerg and pick off the ones at the rear or when my allied zerg is about to run into their zerg I will target the middle of the zerg to distract them and then they become to spread at a bad point where our force comes in and they are too spread / in single file. EB is probably the most frequented place for pugs. The Borderlands tend to be frequented by experienced guilds.

Im not sure which server your on, but I wouldn’t recommend soloing a supply camp. You can do it, but at least on my server its extremely risky. People will react to it and come. If they get there at a bad time you will go down. Running with the zerg is the most risk free and rewarding way to play the game right now.

AW Lore.5682:

and on my experience, when i started salvaging rares and exotics with crude salvage kits, at least in the begining, i got more eectos from them than when i used master salvage kits, i so stopped bothering using them

but this is something i dont think we’ll ever agree on from both sides

maybe because random is random.

How long ago though? You know the master and BL salvage kits used to have the same chance to drop rares and then they boosted the BL salvage kit?

Ok so your the person holding the door open while having your conversation because your time is more important than everyone elses and delaying the train by a couple of minutes is not an issue. I get it.