We don’t have a server guild either. We do like Sanctum of Rall does, have weekly meetings. Many of the PvX guilds allow anyone to join them for guild missions, which is sweet. Most of the WvW guilds are on the Teamspeak server so we just ask for help if we need it on a map.
I’d like to think I’ve shown that when I have a timeframe I can talk about, I do so, but there are many, many things that don’t clear up until closer to being ready to release. Rather than get all your hopes up with phrases like “We appreciate your concern and we’ll have a solution soon!” I try and be a little more realistic. In this case, achievements in WvW do not match the achievements in the rest of the game in terms of the amount of effort required to achieve them or the reward for that effort. But it’s not as easy as just saying “Let there be new achievements” We are going to have to do some complicated things to let people keep what they have already done in addition to adding new achievements. So, I’d love to be more informative in terms of date, but I don’t know either, so I can’t.
I kinda hoped you’d have this figured out as soon as there’s gold and skins involved for achievements, heh.
Achievements are in a weird place. The Hall of Monument ones got like 20x increased with no warning. Living Story gives like 10 free points every 2 weeks for talking to NPCs.
The points are just handed out so easily already everywhere else (heck, at rank 12 PvP I have 150% more points than rank 100+ for WvW – nevermind all the WvW I played before the ranking system), I just want to say give us all a few thousand already =P No one can argue we’re not puttin the hours in!
What I observed in this week’s matchup.
DR – [DDLG] is not what they used to be 2-3 weeks ago when we faced them. You guys looks scattered this time and twice we rolled over your zerg. I don’t know if you guys was unorganized or IoJ got the counter for you.
GoM – Common guys! Do not WP or alt-tab godkitten it! Lets fight head on. I need to use like 3 speed buffs to chase your zerg. You got the numbers, fight like a man.
yeah bro you diffidently wiped us. Dont worry we wiped that same zerg again 5 minutes later without the cannons.
Makin a video just to call people stupid? You do a disservice to your guild and server.
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Good god, I wanted to know what GoM though when they saw the IoJ zerg in there bay and watching DR bust down there door. I will have to admit that we did swim laps in bay and a comment was cracked about IoJ 2014 Swim Olympics, but we where trying to find a door that was damaged.
And to the DR that ran in after the door busted down at bay, you got blind sided [HARD] [CORE]. Though it was fun having a three way in bay and much anguish over lost loot bags.
Those Bay fights were intense (especially the one before that!). The one in the picture, actually what happened earlier is we were in Vale and that DR group came in and we were just like “Back to Bay!” where you guys were. I totally made the joke on TS that “Ha! DR heard IoJ is back in Bay and are coming to save us!”.
I kinda like how commander is character bound, lets people build identities others can see in WvW.
I don’t see any reason why the WvW ranks are character bound though. It really does punish those who can’t stop playing alts (I only play one character but have friends who can’t commit).
Devona’s Rest was stuck in a similar situation. We lost guilds, got stuck in T5 because of the horrid rating system when we were really a T8 server, and went 25 consecutive weeks without a win. Aside from forum threads we never spammed the forums with QQ threads about our situation. You all know the saying, once you hit rock bottom… Well DR did and after months we pulled our kitten together, improved as a server and pulled in our first victory since 2012 just a couple of weeks ago.
I don’t see enough dedication on AR to pull this off, at least not yet. That’s why you spend time complaining about Arena Net as if they are the only source for your problem. I’m sure it will happen eventually though, once you start making an effort.
Quoting for truth
Well, dunno how I feel about the last paragraph. Judgin your server by one forum thread isn’t what I’m gonna sign up for. But the first paragraph is correct. Transfers happen, life goes on. Do what you can with what you got. All the servers in the bottom tiers are workin hard to improve.
The hardest part of WvW is the community aspect. It’s getting along with hundreds of people who all you have in common is a video game. It’s showing up, not getting down even when you’re losing a lot. It’s putting out drama and arguments and forgivin and moving on. At the end of the day, a community that they think they’ll get along with better is what most people transfer for.
I am generally in the same camp as the OP, and suggested something similar myself in a matchup thread that once again found my server against FoW and Vabbi.
“…Perhaps something like free transfers to low population servers would help, or better yet the price of transfer could scale with the location of the transfer. Cheap as chips to go and buoy up the numbers of Vabbi, or a massive whopping cost if you feel like running in a T1 blob.”
I understand where you’re coming from, those people who’ve talked about the gold price as an investment and the lack thereof contribuing to lack of commitment to a server, but really, those who have that much gold to spend that they jump around all the time are not exactly showing a whole ton of commitment already are they?
This is why I think price scaling is the way to go. This would introduce a new factor into the decision of where to transfer. Just like at your supermarket, do you pay more for a top brand, or do you just want the product at the lowest price? Or somewhere in the middle? Small servers would benefit becuase little guilds that aren’t loaded but want a change of community could make an economic choice to transfer cheaply.
The best part with scaling is that it can change depending on how many people go to a server. Why have a static cost? The gem/gold markets fluctuate all the time? Why not have the price of server transfers fluid and dependant upon server population? This would go a lot of the way towards preventing another Kaineng-stlye event. If too many people transfer to one server, the price skyrockets!
Transfer costs already scale with world population (though not WvW population, which I think is fair).
So if you wish I can tell you where to send that trophy and it will not be an NSP address.
Is it the same address we use to send the 3rd place trophies to?
Good comeback. However I do have to point out that although you may be ahead in this weeks matchup you are losing 30 ratings points this week. Not living up to your hype and potential?
:) We lost rating because we rnged a high tiered match and gained massive amounts of rating by just breathing in 3rd place.
You on the other hand, have been steadily staying in the same place you have always been when in a match up with us.
Not first.
At least you are consistent. Good man!
We lost over 60 points in the last 2 weeks and we are still higher rating than you.
(and Toble with the downed spike. Ouch)
I think everyone under Darkhaven is underrated in rating. You were the first ones to show it though =)
I’d move to Blackgate and complain about all the zergs on my lawn.
I’m pretty sure you could two man the lord in GW1 GvG fights, if not just solo it.
I’ve got no complaints about how it is now. If you have 1-3 people, you take camps, if you have 4-10 you can try for towers, 10 or above I’d try for keeps.
Teivospy says he killed tots in 3 seconds and then almost won a 1v3 right after but was too busy laughing at how slow to react tots is.
Also this video is directed at kevin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvR0w8fSmTU
I find this a troubling video.
Apparently, Teivopsy’s ideal guy is Kevin but when Kevin’s date suffers a head injury and then falls into water, Kevin instead goes and flirts with the nearest girl.
Is the sort of celebrity role models our young girls have?
Kaineng aside, as soon as they allowed it last time you had guilds movin from tier 8 to tier 7 (such as Mend). I don’t really know if any of the low WvW population servers were helped by this last time. I think just about all of the higher tier guilds ended up moving back eventually.
im surprised i havent seen alot of golems…look at that pricing!
i bought 100 yesterday >.> and made 80 of them.
good to know that you will keep goleming us
As long as Honeybuns plays this game, he will always keep goleming things. The difference is where normal players build 80 golems and attack a keep, Honeybuns builds 80 golems and tries to spell things with them.
In fact, just last week I remember a screen shot of golems spelling out something along the lines of X86R….I think that was it, right?
Hey, we actually rushed lastnight!
And don’t forget this masterpiece that was the golem heart complete with an L inside.
<3!
I think X86R sounds like a golem name. Is there a Gate of Madness golem role playing community emerging? I would be okay with that.
Wanted to give my guild team some sustain in a fight.
You people make no sense. All I’m hearing is….
“AH+EM is only good in groups”
“The only thing AH+EM does is let you live longer” (that a bad thing?)
“What’s the point of living longer if you aren’t giving your group boons”
“random insults”Is that all a guardian is? A walking boonbot?
There aren’t any builds that are just walking boonbots. There are builds that aren’t AH and are more supportive than DPS though. Still tanky and controlly though.
Personally, seein AH in supportive builds raises an eyebrow. Especially when people are like “Shouts? You need AH then”. AH doesn’t help you support, it helps you DPS or tank (which has to compete with lower protection/other defensive boon up time), at the expensive of traits that could help you support.
cutest kite pic /endcontest
Aww, I didn’t know they had lil’ griffons as a tonic. And what is this kite nonsense?
What map are your good roamers hanging out on, Banzie? I spent some time on IoJ borderlands last night chasing around a group of cast/FAIL/HARD players, but they all seemed more interested in running into their towers or jumping on a ballista than actually engaging a solo player directly.
Any guild tags I should be looking for in particular? This is our first time fighting IoJ, so I’d like to see what kind of fights and tactics you have to offer.
If you seen a group of [HARD] (CORE was probably with us if I remember correctly) members ignoring you, take no offense. We’ve worked REALLY kitten moving around in tight knit groups and teaching players to not get badge hungry and chase off 1 invader. It’s a discipline thing, we always have an objective and we focus on that objective alone. If the Commander we’re with ignores you, everyone else will as well. It’s just how we roll brotha. :P
/edit: I have no idea why the word HARD is turned into “kitten” up there. :\
I am a big fan of your guild name!
What I find ironic in this is Anet. They claim they want to even up matches so the existing player base doesn’t leave (leave the server, leave WvW, or leave GW2 entirely), and attract new players to WvW, yet they won’t even honor a petition to drop us to T8 to prevent the very population loss that they profess to want to prevent. Sigh……
Your petition doesn’t make sense anymore. You’ve had the rating to be matched up with Ferguson’s Crossing and Eredon Terrace for a while now. 5 weeks ago we had more rating than you do now and we had Ferguson’s Crossing and Eredon Terrace (I assume you asking to be tier 8 is asking to be matched up with them) matched up with us. Heck, you had Ferguson’s Crossing last week.
We’ve kinda got more people than anyone else below Darkhaven, I think, so being matched with us is as zergy as it gets below rank 15. But even if ArenaNet changed your ranking to be equal to Eredon Terrance (current lowest rating), these are still the match ups you could be fighting.
lol u must feel so sad u lost to 1 thief, i heard PAXA loves to cry and boost there ego up when they cant win, mostly from players in GoM
I don’t care about the context, I’m just so touched you guys think of us!
You’re still limited by supply. At least I find supply limiting in the sort of WvW I play. Doesn’t matter how many rams we got, 3 rams at the gate is walking on sunshine.
This is still the class that can teleport 1200 and put someone in a circle they can’t walk out of, right?
and the rest of the set (2 – 5/5)
Huh, I don’t recognize who that is. Who is startin a guardian alt in the guild?
Has anyone seen my good friend taquito a.k.a the invisible bandit?
That’s it, I’ve had it up to here with his stealthing. I’m sending him to XOXO.
How is it that everyone else is so bad?
Not sure, am just a natural I guess.
Edit: Also, cool video Zumi!
I hope they crush the kitten out of the lower tier servers so people transfer to these 3 servers allowing for a real 3 way contender Tier 1 match ups, because in the end, 20 servers is doomed to fail as attrition hits and the game gets older 6 servers can be maintained much better easier than 20, population wise.
There’s thousands of people playin WvW here and we don’t actually think your tier is more important than ours. Suck it up and stop talkin like you’re all that matter.
To all those who talk about lower tiers and wanting oceanic/sea/eu coverage, you will not get this, who wants to join a tier where you are pvdooring all night. You may call it “small ops” but it isn’t, it is 10-20 people running around dropping rams on towers where noone is, Tier 1 is a 24/7 coverage match up with insane fun, no matter the time everyone is at the edge of their seat defending keeps from EST NA through till SEA and EU.
There simply isn’t enough Oceanic/SEA guilds to cater to every tier and EU have their own servers therefore goodluck convincing guilds to come NA… Trust me I’ve tried. This is why all the Oc/SEA/EU guilds choose tier 1 and tier 2 because it is the only brackets where they do not get 450+ ppt each night due to pvdoor because this is where the population is.
I need to have a drink to forget this kitten you pulled out of your kitten .
I think just honour/virtues (hv?) build. I was never a fan of adding “way” to build names, haha. There was.. so much of that in Guild Wars 1. IWAY is to naming builds the same way Watergate is to naming scandals.
For reasons known only to themselves, the sPvP playerbase is conspiring to have Retaliation nerfed in WvW. Video:
http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2guru/c/2517953?t=13m54sWe have lots of retaliation and lots of our traits involve Retaliation. What should we ask Arenanet for in compensation for this incoming nerf?
I’ll add that sPvP balance changes don’t have anythin to do with WvW and askin for compensation for buffs/nerfs isn’t how balance works.
sPvP and WvW builds are usually quite different. For WvW healing/bunker I’d recommend this https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/WvW-The-Healway-Guardian/first#post2401771
Warrior heals might be a bit better but you bring long duration protection, group stability, and possibly some area denial (with staff/hammer), which no one else does. The boons warriors give usually are more offensive (like fury).
If you’ve got a tourney PvP team, then the 0/0/10/30/30 base works well as a bunker to hold a point (though you aren’t gonna be able to kill much, just stall).
You can build for mobility at the expense of other things. Same as any other class.
Hm, I thought it was nerfed in borderland too. Seems to hit for less than 300, when it used to hit for 300. Unless I’m misremembering.
There’s plenty worse classes in 1v1 than guardian. Guardian players don’t have much to complain about.
GoM just does golems better is all…
MY ART IS GOOD RH, GET ON MY LEVEL.
Can’t read what the first pic says.
You should make it spell ZERG next time.I think it says XBOR? X8OR?
And <3 back at ya, Muni!
Muni’s golem art is bad, and he should feel bad.
No! It is good! …Two being the best.
You’re just jealous you have no swag.
Muni’s art is on par with how he plays his characters.
“How’s the quip coming along
-starlight”
RH is split into two factions. The sane faction is doin their best to keep Taquito from gettin the quip!
It’d be even worse than all of RISE runnin around with pop guns (which is pretty bad, if you haven’t had the pleasure).
LOL! That is just rich coming from a JQ when they clearly created the most stacked server in the history of GW2. I was on SoS when you guys recruited like there was no tomorrow.
The intensity of tier 1 is like no other, so why would you want to lock it for other people? I myself, just transferred into tier 1 for the fights. Unless you are willing to give up your place in a tier 1 server, don’t post such rubbish. As for skill lag, it is a technical issue which just needs an upgrade of systems. I was worried about skill lag before I transferred in, but now that I am here, it doesn’t bother me much.Jq has a short memory. T1 is the closest it has EVER been and jq/bg whine because they no longer have cruise control for a victory.
Closest it’s ever been wouldn’t be a widening gap between 2nd and 3rd. So to speak this isn’t close even.
One match that has 40k between 1st and 3rd isn’t really somethin to complain about.
The talk of spies stems from a few things over the past few weeks:
1) Someone hacked/trashed/demolished a TS server
2) Someone walked 25 golems off 3rd floor SM
3) Someone notified a certain server of a golem rush minutes before it began.Not pointing any fingers or saying what we’re aware of as far as culprits go :p
1) Was not a spy, so why bring it up?
2) Coulda just been a troll. EB has golems growing out of their ears and as far as I can tell there is an all-month drunken “build to siege” art competition goin on
3) Who cares? A plan should include a contingency for being scouted on anyway! Think ahead
Apparently, there’s nothin to point fingers at!
GoM just does golems better is all…
MY ART IS GOOD RH, GET ON MY LEVEL.
Can’t read what the first pic says.
You should make it spell ZERG next time.
I think it says XBOR? X8OR?
And <3 back at ya, Muni!
Please don’t transfer here ever . . .
No really, don’t. Especially not to JQ.
You guys should really just transfer off.
I think they are trolling. Probably not even on JQ
No they’re on JQ, this makes me sad. Pariah I used to like you. If you want to small man it without lag you need to go to another game.
Hahaha, this guy.
You’re mad
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In the case of Dovgan vs. Pocachubbz, I’m gonna have to side with Dovgan.
I just think it’s outrageous that sPvP gets a bigger siege weapon than we do! Given all the stuff that goes in PvE, WvW players apparently have the smallest siege toys!
As for thief build variety, you haven’t seen these videos? http://www.youtube.com/user/battleaxemultimedia/videos
P/P… You are kidding me right? Long channel high (easy to dodge/mitigate), ini cost, unload is power based while the auto is a condition damage attack… seriously retal kills this without even attacking… P/P is just simply horrid.
The guy is fighting people on the 23rd ranked NA WvW server… out of 24…
…and it’s still just roaming
I’d say what build any one person runs matters more in a roaming situation than in a zergy situation.
And what we do in WvW is still WvW even in the lower tiers. There’s thousands of us here. Get over it.
Personally I feel if we put a WvWer onto SotG it would just become a ANET bashing of questions they could not answer. Since they have no clue. I personally stopped watching SotG not because it was sPvP related; but rather (my personal opinion) the ANET people seemed to have no knowledge of what they were talking about.
I feel like the inerview would go like this:
WvWer: Lets talk about the stealth mechanic.
A-Net: Lets not and say we did.
WvWer: The perma stealth thief is extremely annoying and seems like its the only viable thief build out there at the moment (ran into 20 permas today out of 26 thieves).
A-Net: ruffles papers Well… umm… you see… ruffles paper We know the build has issues and we are working on it.
WvWer: cricket
A-Net: ruffles papers
WvWer: Okkkkkk then. So about these uneven match up. The random rating system is suppose to fix itself. But when a lower rating server does somewhat decent against a higher rated one. The lower server gains rating while the higher one loses rating. Even if the match was a blowout. Why?
A-Net: blank stare
WvWer: Excuse me?
A-Net: Scans paper ruffles papers The rating system will work itself out.Im also assuming this will come off as an attack on A-Net and I will get this post deleted and an infraction. Even though I was simply stating my honest opinion of how the SotG looks to me.
And now a gif to keep you all entertained.
Let me try!
The word blowout is a relative term. What matters is the score difference and the rating difference. I think the pseudo random match is good. Ehmry Bay has gone up 4 ranks, look at how well Darkhaven is doing against Borlis Pass. The previous rankings were clearly inaccurate.
As for thief build variety, you haven’t seen these videos? http://www.youtube.com/user/battleaxemultimedia/videos
You’re acting like you need some sort of pve/wvw guru to figure out whats currently important to players in the game when a 1 hour search in general discussion/wvw threads would suffice. This isn’t exactly conceptually difficult work.
You can’t be serious. That’s like learnin to play a class by reading the class forums.
(Edit: -facepalm- Here I am participating in a forum war… You really did make me nostalgic.)
Are we a rude server now? =(
I am looking for the ultimate support as a Guardian in WvWvW. I’ve bitten the bullet and accepted my role as a support. I enjoy the back-lines, the heavy armour healing, the utilities. It’s a comfortable role for me to play in.
I’m currently very attracted the Mace / Shield combo, and want to find a build that uses the Guardian’s full potential in WvWvW support abilities, as well as this weapon set.
Question is: is it viable? Has it been done successfully before? Is the Mace / Shield combo not the best for what I’m looking to do?
If anyone has anything to add please post it here
Support builds vary with how big the group is, (like I consider the <5, 5-10, 10+ experienced pretty different). Mace/shield is great though, the knockback really shines if you can spot when to use it (usually when cliffs or stomps are involved). I get the most use out of symbols holdin stairs or healin up rams. The mace block is amazing as is the protection buff off the shield (it’s pretty long lastin as far as protection goes).
anything/30/30 is pretty much the support build base. 0/0/30/20/20 would be a more tanky/less supporty variant. There’s videos of Smokee leadin HB with 0/0/10/30/30 swingin his mace/shield into zergs of SoR, so I don’t think you really need AH. I run 0/0/10/30/30 in cleric’s and people are surprised to find I don’t run AH since apparently I seem tanky enough (I mainly do engagements on the scale of 5-10 people).
I’d just be thrilled to have it be a stun breaker. Hate being chain CC’ed while this and shelter are up but I can’t use them.
It doesn’t at all favourably compare to Endure Pain or Elixer S (both 60 s recharge, not elites, stun breakers, can’t be cancelled with a dodge or somethin stupid like that). I get rechargin virtues is great but… it’s not this great. Mist form too. Actually, I’m havin trouble thinkin up a skill in this category that is worse.
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Ah my first server, I transfered from GoM to AR for the tpvp. I started on GoM because there was a All Canadian guild there at one point, but they quit before I started. I have to wonder is it a ghost land there? Before I transfered in like December it was extremely dead.
End of January we started to get organized and it’s quite different now. Oddly enough, a lot of my guild (including myself) are Canadian. My first guild was mostly tPvP and ended up going to Anvil Rock as well. I don’t think they’re active any more though.
I don’t get this….GoM defended StoneMist. Admitted they needed siege to do so, admitted they have poor cohesion, and skill sets in their WvW groups, and there’s still crying. Let’s all have fun!
I feel like GvG and screenshots and forum posts aren’t really worth much. You can tell how good my server and I are by playing with us. If we’re not up to your standards, that’s okay, we’re committed to improving.
No server is at the same stage or has people interested in the same play styles. As such, would prefer it if you would stop making disparaging remarks.
I like and admire Ferguson’s Crossing for their tenacity and big guilds like Deth and DDLG for what they’re trying to do (even if it’s not the same thing I’m trying to do with my guild). I think Ferguson’s Crossing has shown that they have what it takes to compete with much of the bottom half of the server list, which I think a lot of people doubted. I’m glad for this, as it makes good WvW for all of us in these parts.
Lots of love to Anvil Rock too. Been a while, it’s good to see fresh new faces and new play styles. I hope you’re having fun in the match up too. Sorry for all the gifs.
State of the Game is meant only for sPvP because they only found volunteers who are interested in sPvP.
The fact that Anet, in matter of balance, cares only of Spvp might be part of the issue tho.
That explains why some skills are separate in WvW, PvE, sPvP and patch notes have WvW only sections.
I’d like to get WvW questions for State of the Game too (and not useless tier 1 bullkitten like queues and skill lag) but let’s try to keep things in perspective about this if we wanna get anywhere.
Or they could ask their audience what topics they’re most interested in learning about and then try to get the appropriate guests (planning?! No way!).
Why don’t you volunteer your time for that? Or if you have constructive criticism (instead of just insults), feel free to try it with less sarcasm.
SotG needs some competition from another group to encourage them to step up their game. It’s not the responsibility of SotG’s viewership to spoon-feed them on how to hold an interesting conversation.
Again, volunteers, not a business. Threatening them with competition so they go out out of business is not like… going to make them go broke and be sad. It will just free up their time.
I seriously don’t get how you guys are so demanding. It’s like some sPvP players “Hey, we’re willin to take some time out of our month and interview some ArenaNet devs about questions we have”. Then WvW players are like “We have questions too!” and the sPvP people are like “Well, wanna ask them?” and WvW player are like “No, if you really cared about us, you would just know what we want to ask. No one has ever cared about us”.
Ugh, I just keep findin new ways to reiterate this. WvW players weren’t the target audience. They get that WvW players are watching (to their surprise) but they can’t suddenly pull 1000+ hours of WvW experience out of their kitten , especially since they’re busy playin sPvP to stay up current to sPvP things. You need someone (or someones, I’d prefer someone from EB, someone from borderlands, and from different tiers) from WvW to step up and be like “I will volunteer my time and my WvW expertise to search the WvW forums or whatever for questions and then one night a month I will host a WvW State of the Game. Done”.
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Fun GvG tonight in GoM BL!
Really enjoying the match up for this week! FC has stepped up their game and AR have been a fun challenge so far!I don’t have any gifs, so… See you on the field! =3
Did RISE just have a GvG after I said no one’s interested in GvG?
Sccacaaaaarreeecroooowwwwwwww!!