Guild Wars 2

Wayne.9714:

styx.7294:

Tots is gonna come on and be like “No, meta was a typo of metal. I meant you have PvE nubs who farmed Juggernaut at the front of every zerg, you noobs”

So……… this whole thing could be done better with gif’s, meme’s, and the like or did you guys stop doing that while I was gone?
I think when I took a break popcorn was the “meta” on the forums?

I frowned a lot until the .gifs stopped!

There’s no tiers anymore, you can fight people with higher rating and lower rating than you. There are servers right now fighting other servers 200-300 rating apart. Your rating will adjust based on your performance against servers.

You guys will be alright.

Tots is gonna come on and be like “No, meta was a typo of metal. I meant you have PvE nubs who farmed Juggernaut at the front of every zerg, you noobs”

Wayne.9714:

insanemaniac.2456:

Sororita.3465:

styx.7294:

But that’s not how you use the word meta…

yeah..it isnt.

Then again i never understood what meta meant in this game…does it mean the flavor of the month or something? the usual? Cause if so then meta zerg works because most servers ball up, the norm if you will.

the meta is the sum of all strategies used. fotm is (usually) whats good in the meta at the time. your “the usual” is part of the meta, your contribution to it.

meta zerg should be replaced with mega zerg here tho >.>
gom isnt thinking about zerging your zerg. and i mean that in the sense of like… brainstorming ideas of what to do, strategies, thinking about chokes and siege, etc. thatd be meta zerging. theyre just zerging. meta-something is like taking a step back and thinking about the bigger picture and how that something fits into it.

Dang! Some next lvl Gamespeek up N here… Very 1337!
Now back to you. Styx
lol

I actually agree with what he said, haha.

Well, RISE+RH has started to zerg up with maybe having a stronger zerg but that’s only since Friday and only a handful of times.

Tots needs to come and explain to us!

Sororita.3465:

styx.7294:

What’s a meta zerg?

a large group of players 40+ ?

But that’s not how you use the word meta…

Tots.3056:

Sororita.3465:

[DDLG] tisk tisk tisk, had to make an arrow cart to try to beat some GoM pugs =/
(around the tunnels in EB by the FC -stupid kitten stuffs- keep)

The mighty have fallen.

To the [oHai] necro

I planned for the worst with the arrow cart. sorry I overestimated you I guess. Play it safe over everything, our goal was to not die tonight and we did pretty well. Didn’t have our full group wipe once. ;D Farmed GOM for about 200 kills in durios. First when we came in behind them and stole their cap, and the few waves after that. xD

Ran into the semi organized FC group a few times, some deth and worm members. Was fun working around you and killing them pugs, xD too bad GOM ruined the fun.
Sorry to the Deth necro who just wanted his EB JP, when we saw both inner and outer down we couldn’t resist the 30 second keep steal. ;D

Awesome matchup, kind of glad GOM has meta zergs running almost all day, it’s exactly the practice DDLG was looking for. Thanks everybody.

What’s a meta zerg?

So wait.. the guild existed to get one guy an achievement?

thiagoperne.7340:

styx.7294:

So now someone gets to have 100 power and 250 vitality for being higher WvW rank? This is troubling.

Huh.. what?

From maxing the two guard lines. I think that’s the buffs you get?

So now someone gets to have 100 power and 250 vitality for being higher WvW rank? This is troubling.

Sent ya a message =)

ikiturso.4026:

This new match up just cant work. tier 6-7 is so much stronger than tier 8. Old system was very good.

What? This week seems better for the NA bottom servers, FC and ET.

Last week, ET and FC came 200k+ points behind HoD. The week before that they came 200k+ points behind GoM.

This week ET and FC are split up and Monday evening ET and FC are 3rd but only 20k behind their respective match leader. If anything, the last three weeks showed having the 2 lowest ranked servers together in the same tier is a terrible idea.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

[EDGE] perma-stealth thief at the same time ._.

Just watch the Kasmeer mini, hahaha.

Dunno what you’re talkin about, no queues in this game.

THE Dentist.5960:

Darek.1836:

katz.8376:

just poking my nose in here to say… glad to see Ferg seems to be doing well in this match. looks like all 3 teams having fun so far.

yeah we tend to do better when we arent taking 100% focus of the winning team because ET almost never shows up

Unfortunately WE know what you mean here at NSP

I get the sense that the mixed up matches have sort of been a breath of fresh air for a lot of the servers in the low tiers (no idea what goes on in tiers I’m not in, haha). It’s good to see Ferguson’s Crossing doing so well in this match up. It is kinda neat to find out that Ferguson’s Crossing and Eredon Terrace have better match ups when they’re not together. I don’t think we’d ever have seen that under the old system. Also at least on my server the tone at reset is more excited.

It’s why I’m kind of a fan of the new system, even though it isn’t very kind to our ranking and rating this week, haha. For example, it’s looking like Northern Shiverpeaks will have a higher rank than Gate of Madness after this week.

xTiMeBoMBx.2863:

The main problem in WvW has been the WvW population of each server, not total population. That is the #1 issue here so tossing around ideas such as match up systems or buffs, which has no direct effect upon population, will not work. Current match systems are showing winning server losing points, losing servers gaining points, winning server winning points over weak servers, and losing servers losing a lot of points for being outmanned. Everything will start clicking in place when we can start a serious conversation about the unbalance in WvW population of each servers. No more talk about restriction of play for players because that’s all hogwash. The true restriction is from not addressing being outmanned because who would want to play in an environment where you’d die over and over or lose everything you own to a blob 3x yours. I hate to be frank about it but I was at E3 and let me tell you ESO is just around the corner, 2014. A single tower fight had 200 people and no skill lag. However it does seem like it’s going to be a subscription game so I wouldn’t mind GW2 going subscription based. I will gladly pay but please just make things better through serious fixes. I got GW2 for it’s WvW and community in the first place.

… your problem is that winning servers can gain points or lose points and losing servers can gain points or lose points? If the problem is that you think no one will play in a situation where they keep dying, then I guess no one will ever play ‘cause someone has to die if someone else is to kill someone. Also I think saying things like “who would want to play” is cute when the game comes out but when the game is almost a year old and we’re still playing it, I think the answer is “me”. The population balance between servers close in ranking isn’t big and unless the matches are really out of whack, every player that week will find times when they outnumber someone or are outnumbered by someone. Heck, probably every minute, there’s someone on every server in a situation where they outnumber and someone who is outnumbered.

nirvana.8245:

Has anyone even ever seen an Anet developer say that they are aware of this issue? I have not and one thing I have noticed with big issues like this, when Anet says nothing, it usually means they know about it but disagree and will not do anything to change it.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/devon-carver-on-the-future-of-world-vs-world/

GenerationX.9178:

Wryscher.1432:

Shiver.5903:

Scarecrow.5792:

Shiver.5903:

1. We were having dinner at Lake tower when DR entered without knocking. We told them to come back later…
2. But they would not listen. They were too many mouths to feed, yet they tried to push to the Lord’s table in the high tower.
3. Wave after wave, we convinced ‘the whole lot of them’ it was not very appropriate…
4. We escorted them to the door, and sent them on their way.
5. All the while, some DR were taking a nap at GoM spawn.

Stay tuned for more Super-Adventures at Lake-Tower

The caption for the 4th screenshot is quite inappropriate, it obviously should be captioned “ARM”.

Apologies, we will make amends with a prayer to Lord ARM

“The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish, and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper, and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ARM, when I lay my vengeance upon thee”

I dont like ARM. He leaves me feeling inadequate. Ill round a corner or out a door, and there is ARM fighting 4-5 people. I say to myself, I should help him. But then I have to stand and watch as he starts killing people. And I think, if i go in there, Ill get killed. Then ill be depressed and have to quit to eat a pint of ice cream and cry myself to sleep. So I just stand and watch. Or pretend like I had a wall somewhere to repair….

Unless I am running out of the keep and he is chain killing deers in the field and then Im all like, What an Idiot.

pve, lot more rewarding then wvw and you dont have drama about this class is op that class is op.

This guy! Stop tryin to recruit people into PvE, Leet!

Look at NSP go! Go NSP go!

tocos.7453:

Darek.1836:

can someone explain to me who/what ARM is

ARM is A R M

Is true.

playard.6035:

Lightsbane.9012:

playard.6035:

Gee, we’re outmanned here as well and as usual! Welp~~~

that’s cute coming from the server who can pull 80 man zergs.

Well, try guest on our server (maybe after the match please q: ) during the NA late night hours or early morning. This morning around maybe 7am NA Pacific Time, we luckily had an 8-member DR ZERG party defending our borderland, oh, and we were actually 4 rangers with 4 reef drakes.

Also basically I stopped counting enemy numbers beyond 15, I don’t have the talent to accurately count large numbers in sight. In our borderland map chat, a group of 15+ or even 10 GoM will be awarded the tile of ZERG. (Sometimes will be called “buncha thieves” for [RH]/[RISE]/[ASH]/[Worm] guild group tho, with all due respect.)

I didn’t count how many people you had last night attending the SE party in our borderland, but I spotted a lot of (10+) red tags earlier there from SE sentry. (BTW, thanks for the banners, [DRUG].) I played less recently, and I wasn’t always there fighting you guys. To be clear here, on this, we did have people on last night at SE tower, but I think it took a very long time for our people to build up our group and momentum there. We had other issues at home then. You weren’t and aren’t the only one who tired to date us. (eh, ET want us, too? Hell! So much love for Devona) However, you people held a good party there, indeed.

If you still have problem with the large number group, please feel free to talk to your BOSS or zombies!

Darek.1836:

Lightsbane.9012:

so can you guys ;_;

does anyone remember last night when we had the 25FC vs 60 or so GoM in the open field? that was insane.

Hear, hear! //

At Redlake last night, I think RISE had 10+, RH had 10, ASH had a bunch, plus I saw other guild tags. DDLG knows how to throw their weight around but we weren’t outmanned. Plus we had the advantage of defensive siege and a choke points.

All in all, situations like that can be tough to deal with when the sides are fairly equal in numbers.

For sure, Redlake is where the party was at today. Still goin on now!

doublebb.6574:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

dreztina.4820:

Running around wvw is really a double edged sword. On one hand, the level of competition is ungodly low. On the other hand, I can actually run my completely destroyed build and still beat just about everyone I fight.

I keep logging on for a night every 2-3 weeks to get my MMO fix, but it’s always disappointing. Hopefully this big patch on the 25th improves things, but I doubt it.

Another P/P thief out there? You should’ve said something earlier in the matchup so we could get a duel going. :/

How does one be a P/P thief? I thought they were inadequate in WvW? If there’s actually a capable build out there for P/P thief I’d love to know it

Just imagine a ranger without a pet.

Pretty wild reset! RH/RISE tried zerging it up to duke it out with DDLG!

Trebs don’t take towers, people take towers.

styx.7294:

If you’re worried your posts will not do your guild justice… maybe uhh, it’s time to to post better posts!

Where’s the fun in that?[/quote]

There is lots of fun in it, I assure you. Styx guarantee.

Myst.5783:

Vex.9426:

Again, I ask…. GvG? Please?

Yes, an organized GvG between on guild that most probably practices against one who does not.

As fun as laying on my back staring up and the sky sounds, I must decline.

styx.7294:

Does Myst even have a guild?

How very supportive of your server mate. -_-’

Why would I want to bring the name of my guild in when I’m busy posting such crap on the forums?

I am supportive of you! I think more of our guilds should GvG (even if they might lose, they’ll get better!)

I can’t say I know you though off your account name so I have no idea if you have a guild (you certainly don’t advertise one) =(

If you’re worried your posts will not do your guild justice… maybe uhh, it’s time to to post better posts!

@ King

Now you see what happens when you pass through the Gate of Madness. I gotta live with these guys =(

Vex.9426:

Myst.5783:

Kcrook.3945:

I wonder why it didn’t help us get our lead back? I guess because you are so incredibly awesome at smashing your face into doors all night. We made up about 3-3.5k points during primetime, while crushing your zergs and maneuvering around multiple maps. I understand your need to come on the forums and assert your ‘achievements’ when you actually do have enemies to fight before you night cap. It must be rough to PvDoor all night and no one gets to see your awesum skillz. I completely understand that PvD is a a part of the game and that someone has to do it, but don’t come to the forums trying to make a guild look bad just because you jumped off of a wall and clicked a button. Kinda makes you look like a moron.

Achievements? What achievements? I didn’t achieve a kitten thing. I was laughing at a failure that I found a bit of humor in. Also what awesome skills? I kittening suck at PvP, that made it funnier. I rotate between night crew and day crew depending on what shift I’m on at work. I get a taste of all timezones. Majority of my play time is between 1PM and 10PM CST.

Jumped off a wall? Didn’t know there were walls at that camp.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Oh, sorry. I guess I didn’t make it clear enough: I think your post was ridiculous.

Imagine if everyone posted on the forums as soon as they downed a few people in a large group with Churning Earth. The weight of the internet would definitely multiply.

I guess I didn’t make myself clear enough either, they focused the trebs so intently I was able to -walk- into the middle of their group, start channeling CE, get it off(no teleport), down 4 or 5 people, and walk away. Shortly after they wiped without taking down a single treb.

I’m sorry, but thats bad.

Again, I ask…. GvG? Please?

Does Myst even have a guild?

RH leave Starshine Honeybee alone or he will mail you precursors and that will make you feel really bad.

bokkieskitten.8023:

Zumi.6384:

Tots.3056:

Myst.5783:

Tots.3056:

Myst.5783:

To the [DDLG] group who tried twice to kill our trebs north Hills last night in GoM BL and wiped -hard- each time

You had enough to wipe all the GoM pugs there, yet you focused the trebs so intently you let a DPS oriented ele get a churning earth off right in the middle of you. I had a pretty good laugh seeing how many people I downed.

…

To all the people bickering about who is better, WvW is all about who has the bigger zerg and the better coverage.

You must have missed the six hours up until this where we consistently wiped your trebs/group, and capped everything but your bay and held/upgraded it. I believe we switched to our up levels for exp train at this point though, so that’s why we went for the trebs, they were worth more wxp than you guys were by that time.

Yep, I actually did miss that. Seems it didn’t help you get your lead back.

Switched to uplevels? Right… I still found it funny watching those two [DDLG] rushes fail so spectacularly to even dent a treb.

The waypoint in hills and your paper everything else didn’t give it away? Man you missed it big, we held your map up until about 10-11pm est. You guys were getting rolled all NA prime time in your map. I believe we took your garrison back seven or eight times.

I knew I liked you for a reason.

EDIT: Dem gifs

Hey, stop being a bad influence on Zumi!

BlazeQ.1095:

Sororita.3465:

BlazeQ.1095:

Just a dozen, nothing overly dramatic.

spent 40 gold on monday, most were never used, i guess people think rams are better

/shrug

Thats just sad, I hate when a golems go to waste. Were was Ronny??? he used to jump at the chance of trying a golem rush.

Ronny doesn’t play anymore.

Does everyone transfer to tier 1 servers just to complain about the number of people?

XxzaverxX.6790:

its just im getting sick of goms stupid night raids because when we’re sleep(dr) they can sneak in our towers/camps/keeps with no problem leaving us with nothing

Really? When I’m on, you guys seemed to have the most fortified borderland since the match up started (most waypoints, Briar tower has been fully fortified since like Friday night ’till today as far as I can tell).

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

torridstoic.7492:

styx.7294:

If you’re ever outnumbered by XOXO, quickly /bow to a random one and they’ll give you a 1v1. Now you’re no longer outnumbered!

This is proven strategy thumbs up

Back in the DH/GoM/NSP matchup, a group of XOXO took our north camp and proceeded to build a treb to fire on the power orbs. I popped out of the doorway to citadel to say hi, but being alone, I couldn’t hope to take back the camp. A female norn (guard, I think?) walked over to me and started dancing. I moved away from the doorway and bowed to her, hoping to get a fight. She took off her pants and kept dancing. I bowed again. It was about this time that two of her thief friends jumped me from behind.

I can confirm this. Most of my /waves and /bows at XOXO end up with me getting chased halfway across a map by a whole group of XOXO/SPCA/tM while getting whispered, “Come back! We want to give you HUGS!”

Weird! I totally was in EB one mornin and saw like a few XOXO runnin alongside some other NSP. I was like “Oh crap! I’m gonna die!” so I \bow’ed to Obs and got a duel. Bein a lame bunker guardian, I dragged out the duel for like 10 minutes while like half a dozen NSP watched and the whole time I was like “Yeah, I’m never gonna kill him but it’s like I’m tankin a zerg! Whoooo”

It’s not a good analogy.

Teams of 11 people are easy to balance (no one in sPvP complains about unfair numbers, for example) but when your teams are hundreds of people, you’re not going to balance it. Just have a soccer match with 200 vs. 200 people couldn’t be balanced – people are going to show up whenever they like, go to the bathroom whenever they like, disconnect, have things from outside the game interrupt them, have wildly different schedules that change over time (now to mention there are 4 different soccer fields and they get to move between them however they like).

lemora.1304:

DevonCarver.5370:

The main reason is simply that at the point that outmanned does that, it encourages servers to have fewer players on to take advantage of the stat boost. That, in turn, will cause people to yell at other players for logging on and taking away the buff.

Thanks for confirming once again that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I guess now we know that the new build with the outmanned buff update won’t do kitten for the outmanned server..

For sure, let’s let this Blackgate player tell us about what it’s like being outmanned.

What Devon said makes perfect sense to me. I generally feel like giving players stat boosts is somethin to be avoided. It makes for gimmicky play, especially when players use it as a crutch.

If you’re a better group of players, it’s possible to kill a larger number of players but there is a number big enough that you can’t win some fights. I think this is okay.

Sororita.3465:

styx.7294:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Wait, styx got a forum infraction? Infinitely Nice Guy Styx?

Mah dawg.

Actually it’s my 2nd one!

only 2nd?

It’s not a contest, Starshine.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Wait, styx got a forum infraction? Infinitely Nice Guy Styx?

Mah dawg.

Actually it’s my 2nd one!

wish.1027:

styx.7294:

wish.1027:

Buddy.7563:

Thank you for the loot SF It was much appreciated <3

This is the most confusing post I have ever seen.
Neither of your SS’s has any SF tags in it.

Also, who is this fake SF!?! I thought I was the only person in Strike Force this low in the tiers lol.

Oh give it up, just main your thief and spend the rest of your life ganking people in the low tiers.

I would but sometimes I just need my fix of 100 vs 100 combat.

Just load up PowerPoint =)

wish.1027:

Buddy.7563:

Thank you for the loot SF It was much appreciated <3

This is the most confusing post I have ever seen.
Neither of your SS’s has any SF tags in it.

Also, who is this fake SF!?! I thought I was the only person in Strike Force this low in the tiers lol.

Oh give it up, just main your thief and spend the rest of your life ganking people in the low tiers.

Manoa.5897:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Manoa.5897:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

arKRazor.8654:

An SF meltdown would be a disaster. We’ve enjoyed a close match up till now.

lol, it is not a meltdown. You have fought our server before, haven’t you? We have next to zero US overnight and banker hour coverage. Amazingly enough, pretty much everyone on SF actually sleeps at night and works during normal US work hours.

We have never fought you, and we have the same issues on DR.

Yes you have. Though it’s been many, many moons (back in our server’s dark days).

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/26

Needless to say the SF that exists now was not the SF that existed then.

True. But our coverage gaps are a tale as old as time. We were experiencing this very same coverage gap problem back then as well as many other issues, which combined lead to our demise into T8. While some of those issues have been resolved and we’ve strengthened as a server, we’re still struggling with the coverage problem.

Sorrow’s Furnace = Beauty and the Beast?!

Also we already have a thread here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/GoM-Gates-of-Madness-Wants-You/first#post2185072

woeye.2753:

Krosan.2890:

woeye.2753:

snowaugar.1823:

Don’t be a band wagon person and go to an already stacked server that’s no fun

ANet bascially forces us to join stacked servers in order to have fun.

Because skillag and monsterblobs are extremely fun?

Lol, no, certainly not. You’re right. But guess what? Getting roflstomped two weeks in a row by servers who have 2 times more players than us isn’t exactly funny, too.

Maybe next week the luck will be on our side. But if not … I don’t know what to do?

Fight, get better.

That’s what you do no matter what the score is.

Lightsbane.9012:

had some nice fights outside SF spawn in GOMBL until [eXo] went all tryhard and 1v5’d me twice.
:(

There, there, Kormak. It’ll be okay, you will get through this!

little ceasar.9254:

Winning server does not always mean it has the best players, that goes without saying if your familiar with wvw. However, the higher up the tiers you go, particularly t-3 and up, will have a higher concentration of wvw focused players. The down side to that is you also get more fair weather players and increased Zerg size the higher you go.

If you are looking for solo/small group roaming stay to the lower end. For larger more wvw focused guilds look toward the higher tiers.

This guy has it right.

woeye.2753:

snowaugar.1823:

Don’t be a band wagon person and go to an already stacked server that’s no fun

ANet bascially forces us to join stacked servers in order to have fun.

This guy has no idea what he’s doing.

bokkieskitten.8023:

styx.7294:

bokkieskitten.8023:

Crucify.1649:

Hello Gate of Madness and Sorrow’s Furnace! I would like to announce that there will be a Fight Club occurring on Thursday at 8 PM EST! Rules and location will be stated on that day so stay tuned!

We aren’t allowed to have fight club anymore. No fun allowed.

Where did you get that picture of me?

Oh is that YOU? The internets man.

-whispers- This time I’m not teasing you, this is an actual problem these days. People hatein’ on fight club. -peers around-

Meh, that’s okay. Not everyone approves of everythin and everyone has their own sense of the right way to play.

bokkieskitten.8023:

Crucify.1649:

Hello Gate of Madness and Sorrow’s Furnace! I would like to announce that there will be a Fight Club occurring on Thursday at 8 PM EST! Rules and location will be stated on that day so stay tuned!

We aren’t allowed to have fight club anymore. No fun allowed.

Where did you get that picture of me?

Arkard.3970:

Mordyph.2104:

So SOR has to petty much spawn camp both servers to get a positive rating.

That kinda will ruin any fun for either side.

I thought ruining fun for all sides was the WvW team’s new focus?

It seems like your goal here is to make sure that Sanctum of Rall’s rating only goes up, rather than that WvW be fun.

I do feel like if Sanctum of Rall’s rating goes down, that’s not a bad thing. Might have been just in the reverse of the tier 8 trap, where ratings were artificially low, maybe fightin the same high rating servers over and over again just kept the ratings in tier 1 artificially high compared to the other tiers. That is not to say they shouldn’t be higher but maybe they were higher than they ought to have been.

There are 4 match ups that are less balanced than Sanctum of Rall’s right now (including mine), so it’s not like it’s their situation is unique.

King Amadaeus.8619:

moutzaheadin.4029:

Naussica fee transferred to SF, in the middle of the night she packed her stuff and up and left a few weeks back. We are saddened that she moved. But I’ve always said play for your own fun , not for the fun of others. So good for her.

We are happy to have her, as we were you when you moonlighted in CoSA that one time!

:P

In all seriousness I love seeing the XOXO people, as they tend to duel a bit more than the ROFLstomping that gets attempted by the other guild roamer groups.

Sad there was no fight night, or at least there was none discussed on forums, I checked a few spots but figure I either missed it or it didn’t happen.

If you’re ever outnumbered by XOXO, quickly /bow to a random one and they’ll give you a 1v1. Now you’re no longer outnumbered!

This is proven strategy thumbs up

You can’t have had an accurate rating if you’re worried that fighting 21 out of the 23 servers changes it.

I love Dae’s asura. Most fabulous asura by far.