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Announcement for GoM & Dev R
We have moved to a new larger capacity teamspeak server to make more room for devona’s rest. Ask for the info in EB or Dev R / GoM BL, and I’m sure someone will get it to you.
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Hahaha, good one.
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This thread really seems as pointless as banging on the table and forcing the guy opposite you to like the brand of beer you are drinking.
Here are a few things to consider
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Different tiers field different numbers and that is why fights may vary from 1v1 to 5v5 and even to 80v802)
Due to the different number of players fielded, each tier develops it’s own meta. Commanders and players develop different skill sets3)
Skill does not simply equate to just being able to kill players. It involves more than that. Being able to command a 30 or 40 group as 1 entity is on a totally different level. Does that make a commander not fantastic at 1v1 a lousy player? No. His talent is just as if not more valuable i.e able to get a group to move as 1 entity.4)
Strategies for different sized groups vary greatly and harping on I can kill 1vX number of people is meaningless. It is truly a work of art when you see an organized group kill on the field especially when they take on greater numbers.5)
Once the group sizes become bigger, you will start to see that there is alot of thought put into team synergy, making builds work with each other, combo fields, field movement, timing of attacks, group composition, weapon and skill interactions etc. This is something that a 1v1, 2v2 or 5v5 won’t see. There is nothing wrong with that, just means that meta and playstyles differ. Experiencing such fights simply means paying ANET gems to move to a different tier.6)
Different players like different play styles, some of you guys enjoy 1v1, 2v2, 5v5, 10v10. There are also others that like to play 30v30, 30v50 or even 80v80. That does not however mean they are any less skilled than someone playing 1v1, 2v2. It is a totally different play orientation.7)
A 1v1, 2v2 player harping on “I can kill X who plays often in a 30v30 group = he sucks” is extremely lame and naive. Builds designed for group combat and builds designed for 1v1, 2v2 etc comabt are vastly different in focus. Tradeoffs and compromises are made resulting in weaknesses when forced into a combat scenario it is not designed for and vice versa.Lastly, I believe we all should be able to acknowledge that different players like different playstyles and hence reside in different tiers. Constant harping on who is better or trying to one up the other is doing nobody any favours.
This thread didn’t really deserve such a well thought out post.
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In a multiplayer game, first people we should exclude are people who want to exclude others.
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Rob just loves his meme collection and takes every chance he can to bust it out!
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Most of the patches had plenty buffs and nerfs.
People just don’t read the patch notes.
not if you were a thief
You don’t like stealing 25 might stacks?
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Alright, haters gonna hate… but I think it’s time someone finally manned up and said this.
I’ve been to many fight clubs, and I’ve been to many servers. There are some extremely talented players here. I got my rear handed to me last night in a few duels. The quality of some of the guilds here is pretty stellar. So, I’ll just admit some notable names I’ve seen around the battlefield. Tip of the hat to.
SPCA, SPLT, XOXO, Tm for NSP and for GOM I’ve only really seen some good fights from Raven Hold.
This is a great match up, and I’m enjoying it…. though realizing I need to step my game up and learn something other than D/D thief lol. (Sorry for caps/spelling)
I haven’t been in TS with every guild but my impression is we got a lotta gifted PvP folk but not too many guilds that run disciplined organized guild groups.
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Most of the patches had plenty buffs and nerfs.
People just don’t read the patch notes.
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@ Avatar, yeah, I think the outmanned buff change was a good one.
@ Beachead, I suppose it wouldn’t hurt if done right. I guess we get the WvW score buffs but I never stop to think about those.
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Did Os and PAXA just agree on somethin? Lemme grab the champagne.
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11. Make some incentive for winning the week in wvw. Like a gold chest for those who have logged over 20 hours in wvw for the week and their server got first place. Silver chest for 2nd etc..
Bad idea on the 20 hours – you would just have trolls and /afkers everywhere that log on for 20 hours for no reason just to get the reward. Better to include a WvW weekly objective list like capture “x” towers, kill “x” players, use “x” supply, etc. and then at the end of the week, give a chest reward based on where your server placed in the tier instead.
It was more of an example. I just want to have some incentive in winning the week.
Incentives to win become incentives to transfer.
So why WvW? In Daoc you had relics that gave bonuses to your entire faction. In Warhammer you could invade the opposing factions capital. In GW2 you can…. become a new color.
Bandwagoners are going to transfer if there are incentives or not. I don’t think this would increase the transferring. From a business perspective Anet might like additional transfers as it is money in their pockets.
Either way there needs to be a reason for winning. My server only cares about the open field fights and only plays the ppt so that we can stay in tier 2. We have no desire to goto T1 or to even win our tier. The reason? What good does it do me if I get first?
I dunno but you already get less repair bills and more loot bags while you’re winning. Fightin on a server that’s losin the match up is harder than fightin on one that’s winning. And the two bottom servers aren’t likely to get wins soon, are we just gonna put in a feature that punishes people for workin hard to build and maintain WvW communities on those servers?
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11. Make some incentive for winning the week in wvw. Like a gold chest for those who have logged over 20 hours in wvw for the week and their server got first place. Silver chest for 2nd etc..
Bad idea on the 20 hours – you would just have trolls and /afkers everywhere that log on for 20 hours for no reason just to get the reward. Better to include a WvW weekly objective list like capture “x” towers, kill “x” players, use “x” supply, etc. and then at the end of the week, give a chest reward based on where your server placed in the tier instead.
It was more of an example. I just want to have some incentive in winning the week.
Incentives to win become incentives to transfer.
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If they reduced the power of protection say to 20% and removed retaliation from the guardian then I’d say the guardian would fine. In fact I would remove retaliation from guardians and give them to the warriors, this would make both classes do their roles and not over power one while making the other well useless.
This can’t be an actual suggestion. I don’t even know where to start.
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When they down an opponent, bam, stability stomp (sooooooo OP), an ability that renders my downed skills useless.
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Thank u, u made my day : D
Every class can do an equivalent.
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Rankings: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
From talkin with other rangers (I don’t play any) rangers are pretty good at solo/small scale as long as you only keep one bow and some melee options. Thieves are obviously really good at solo/small scale too.
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Guardians are so overpowered! I can’t believe that this class has gone unnerfed for so long!
Guardian damage was nerfed through the retaliation nerf and some classes were buffed with boon removal to counter them as well. Last patch, less than 2 weeks ago.
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I always felt like warriors had the worst downed ability. I dunno what they think when they hit vengeance but I think “Thanks for spiking yourself, I could have gotten hurt doin it myself”.
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The previous posters are correct about the time difference. You can see tier 1 was updated less than an hour ago, tier 6 was updated 5 hours ago.
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The mesmer wall and the staff symbol are the only ways I know of speed buffing that isn’t capped at 5 people (fields aside – in which case you have a great combo finisher for half that combo). If you’re leadin a zerg, why aren’t you runnin a staff? I mean, 100% uptime on swiftness for everyone – what else you want?
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Well, I lost 5 posts. They were like my babies =(
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Oh? You agree that the keeps are supposed to be ours? <3
How generous, seeing how it was on your borderlands. We ourselves simply accidentally wandered over, you see, and had no hostile intent whatsoever.
Of course, it seemed to me that the GoM were retreating from the NSP, and our force was rather poorly misplaced, what with our lines of retreat being pretty much the same as yours. Things became even worse when we found ourselves sandwiched between the GoM being chased by NSP, and the recently ressurected GoM emerging from their Garrison…
What? Our borderland? GTFO!
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Being good in this game means different things to different people. Threads like this wore me out. I think the tipping point was hearing PAXA tell guilds to challenge them in strictly 5v5 scenarios that could not be arranged ahead of time. You just had to find them in WvW. They wouldn’t even tell people what map they’re on. How many hoops you gotta jump through to impress someone?
On the other hand, most of my guild cares about 1v1 skill. Just about everyone we meet people in TS want to know how good the guild is at 1v1. shrug On the other hand, I’m mostly interested in the strategy part. Like it was somethin that you guys held off that many people coverin for an attackin on SM but I think it’s more impressive you guys were there. Not enough guilds on Gates of Madness organized to do so somethin like that.
1v1 in this game is almost totally busted due to the numerous cheese builds that are available. And you will notice that quite often the biggest talkers are the ones that run those builds.
I dunno, lets you test your skills against someone else with nothin else gettin in the way. Unless it’s bunker versus bunker, I’ve met people of most classes who say they have very lil’ trouble in 1v1.
I haven’t noticed that about who is the biggest talker.
Edit: Ah, Pixie, you misunderstand. As you can see in the first picture, we’re there saving you from those Northern Shiverpeak folk. They covet your precious keeps and so we talked it out and decided to show up and keep your keeps safe for you.
Also in the second picture, I wish you were running the other way. I can’t make out who my RH guildie is at that distance.
Edit: It’s too bad you don’t care for 1v1, Oozo. A friend of mine was telling me a couple days ago he was waitin to find ya in WvW to have necro on necro duel with you.
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This is my biggest headache in WvW.
Multiple times we’re remaking parties every night to kick people that logged out and since you can’t right click names you have to manually reinvite everyone (unless they happen to be in your area, in which case you have to physically find them in the game) everytime.
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Being good in this game means different things to different people. Threads like this wore me out. I think the tipping point was hearing PAXA tell guilds to challenge them in strictly 5v5 scenarios that could not be arranged ahead of time. You just had to find them in WvW. They wouldn’t even tell people what map they’re on. How many hoops you gotta jump through to impress someone?
On the other hand, most of my guild cares about 1v1 skill. Just about everyone we meet people in TS want to know how good the guild is at 1v1. shrug On the other hand, I’m mostly interested in the strategy part. Like it was somethin that you guys held off that many people coverin for an attackin on SM but I think it’s more impressive you guys were there. Not enough guilds on Gates of Madness organized to do so somethin like that.
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AD, eh… not too impressed. I know it’s rare to come up against the forum warriors of NSP, but I really expected more of a fight from you guys. You guys try to fight with maturity, which is almost like trying to go up against a door-nob after dunking your hands in vaseline. Just doesn’t work well. You gotta learn how to combat NSP’s tactics with immaturity, just throw that poo they flung at you right back in their faces. You’ll learn as you fight more though, you guys seem like quick learners and solid players.
The amount of their self-centered hypocrisy is just astounding to me. Did they do this kitten to you too? Of course, I guess that the main difference would be is that we have the numbers to kill them when they all group up together and you didn’t.
No, it’s not you. It’s them (though you guys do kinda like to go around tellin people they’re terrible too? I can’t tell anymore, the drama is blurring together).
Please don’t seek sympathy from PAXA. They are the masters of accusing people of zerging (and not playing exactly the way they think you should play).
XOXO is supposed to mean hugs and kisses. Instead it means this nonsense. Your guild emblem has a heart!
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Looking forward to listening to amins’s show. Always been a fan of him on the forums. Will have to look into these later when i get home, but it sounds like I will have to wait for a WvW focused one.
Not mine? :< SOME FRIEND.
You have a show?
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I run mostly cleric stuff (following that 0/0/10/30/30 healway build).
Whatever stats you choose, I’d recommend spending 30 laurels on an amulet. It’s the best deal on an ascended item.
Spend your karma on the temple gear (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Exotic_karma_armor), whatever stats fit best to your build (soldier gear is a good start since you’re not goin for much DPS stats. You can then start replacin it with whatever you want. Healing power doesn’t scale super awesome with our skills so it’s manageable and livin longer will help you learn your skils). Karma won’t be useful much later on so just spend it now. Weapons are pretty cheap, you can buy them with gold.
You can start savin WvW badges for cleric armour to replace the temple stuff if cleric gear is where you wanna go. In WvW you’re earnin 3 currencies (badges, gold, and karma) so just spend them as you can (karma can be traded for gold through craftin or tradin for lost jewellery boxes http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crusader_Benson). WvW generally is a very poor way to get rich in the game though.
It’s faster to farm dungeon armour (the tokens come much, much faster than WvW and more gold too). Doin the Fractal daily at level 10 Fractals also will earn you ascended rings so that can save you gold on that too (also a fair bit of gold doin Fractals).
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I had some sweet duals with my tM and SPCA buddies, i cant wait to see you guys on the battle field. Love you tM for everything you’ve been teaching me you know who you are! Oh and thanks for badges for few you in DR (gom tM thief)
You’re back with us? Man, I cannot keep up. =)
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Really? I mean, REALLY? I leveled my guardian from 1-80 in WvW and all I did was use Staff #1. It was boring as hell. But I tag like almost everything in a zerg.
I find staff a refreshin and fun change when I decide to run it. I can’t tell people what they’ll find fun though, I can only tell them it’s about as good as tagging people for loot gets (which is what he asked about). shrug
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I play a guardian and have no trouble getting drops. A guardian is very tanky and you can viably go full melee and just tag everythin. You have the boons and armour and blocks to go deep. Hammer and greatsword both are pretty fantastic for AoE damage.
Staff is really good for gettin drops. Realize that any AoE class can only hit 5 targets with an AoE (’cept like meteor swarm) while you are hitting 5 targets with your staff every second. It has 600 range which is very safe for a guardian and you can always use #2 and #3 to hit 1200 range.
In keep defenses you can #1 through the wall, #3 as an AoE, or best thing anyone can do – bring arrow carts. In sieges, be the guy on the ram or the guy who heals the guy on the ram.
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What’s great about all you 10+ runners all say the same things about “havoc groups” in higher tiers, that their use is “cutting supplies, killing dolyaks, cutting off back lines”…. How come none of you understand when our 5 guys leave the spawn 100% of our goal is to only kill red? It’s so hard for you Zergers to realize points D O N O T MA T T E R and we simply play to kill people? And when a group of 8-20 dies to 5 guys is a joke and shouldn’t happen but happens everyday?
And then you come on the forums and tell us how awesome your 20 man guild groups are when the truth is if you ran less you’d fall into the “joke category” otherwise you would run less….
Now I am confused. If your server’s scores doesn’t matter to you at all, where is the source of your server loyalty? Where is your source of server pride? Why stay? Is lag the only reason then? So if one day Anet changes to new servers and removes all lags, you are gone?
Actually, there’s an entire thread about server choice from PAXA. Tier 8 is where they are moving the small group guilds who just want to kill each other and not watch score.
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no GOM is complaining about being on NSP BL DR shows up to help NSP defend by attacking GOM in the back then when GOM is dead DR takes off until GOM is seen again in NSP land
No, we’re not complaining about that either. I totally have done and would do the same.
Haven’t you ever been outmanned on an enemy borderland? You see 2 guys that are too big to fight fightin each other. In a 3 way you can just steal kills and draw out the fight. They want the NSP defenders busy defending against GoM and they want GoM attackers busy attacking NSP. And they want badges.
This makes sense ‘cause DR never is not at war with NSP and GoM and we’re always at war with both of them. To win the war though doesn’t mean you fight NSP and GoM every battle, you pick the fights that advance their cause. DR shouldn’t want the keep that GoM is attacking because if they take it they will now be the ones getting doubled teamed.
I don’t mean to alarm you but DR and NSP both wish us harm! They have ill intent towards us! In fact, I suspect they have unflattering things to say about our mothers! Please keep that in mind.
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Its nice to fight people that actually know there classes. I do how ever miss SF, I find WVW much more fun when I hate the other server.I Just don’t hate Dr/GoM enough.
Help me out here plz.
XOXO only runs small groups because no one wants to be their friends.
Edit: Hm, I got some other ones.
I just zerged XOXO at Dawn’s Eyrie and I’m not sorry!
SPCA says you guys aren’t funny!
Henge of Denravi paid 500 gold to every WvW guild on Gates of Madness and Devona’s Rest to push you guys down a tier and get them back!
Stealth using classes are for people who aren’t mature enough to face the world!
Edit: one more.
Sorrow’s Furnace has also transferred to Gates of Madness! We are already the people you hate!
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It is, essentially, another WvW map. You can still fight each other, it will behave exactly like the JP used to, except you will be removed from EB so someone who wants to come in to fight for objectives will not be kept from playing by someone running the JP.
If I may ask, what was the purpose of continuing to allow people to fight in the JP?
I gave up on completing the puzzle a LOOONG time ago because I got tired of dealing with the fighting over it. All the times I’ve completed it, I’ve just been ported up.
Fighting over it is the only reason it’s worth having around
Agreed, there’s 40 jump puzzles for people who don’t want to fight in jump puzzles and 4 for those who do.
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Here is my guild (our normal 5 man + thief) taking on 15+, and being hit with an organized 4-6 man from NSP (XOXO b4 they went zerg) Thanks Ruprect.
Sorry dude, but that enemy guild of yours aren’t organized at all. That isn’t how high tier guilds fight.
Please watch that video I posted on page 1, and you will get a better idea.
That’s the point I was trying to make. You might be very good and dominating in lower tiers. But are you really that good, or the enemy just sucks? How can you know for sure?
That why you got to throw yourselves against a battle-hardened enemy zerg that knows what they are doing. Then you will find out your true strength.
Dude, I don’t agree with people who say higher tier players aren’t as skilled. We’re all playin WvW differently. I can’t agree with your entire premise of “if you aren’t here fightin giant zergs you probably suck” though. You have people from your server postin about how much it sucks in tier 1. Just take away from the thread that people can take WvW seriously without likin the same types of fights you do.
All you wanted to know is if there are people here that spend more than 80% of their time in WvW and now you know that there’s hundreds of us even in tier 8.
Edit: If this was a masked attempt to try to recruit people from the lower tiers to higher tiers then I dunno what to tell you. Every day I haven’t transferred off my server since launch is every day me casting a vote for where I want to be.
Or maybe you’re like a bizarro Jscull. Jscull is here telling me that the only way to fight is with 5 people against 5 people and you’re telling me that the only way to fight is with zerg against zerg. Now my mind is blown. Why can’t anyone love me for who I am?
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We just can’t win, you know? Attack NSP? We’re double teaming. Attack GoM? We’re picking on the weaker server and fighting for second place. Clearly what DR needs is a spreadsheet to keep track of who we’re attacking.
That or we could just stay in our own little corner and just fight mosquitos.
no your not double teaming your just being parasitic going after what ever team has the lower numbers at the time of the engagment
Hmm we were outnumbered in EB, none of the other servers were. We decided to go GoMBL because we know how poor your BL defense is.
If you call that parasitic then so be it. I call it doing what you can with inferior numbers. I guess GoM never had to experience that?
No, not at all. On enemy borderlands I’ve tried to double team the home team as much as possible. Sometimes you cut off their reinforcements and stand by without attackin the other attacking server. You know, just so they have some double teaming to complain about.
Dev is a good commander, probably just tired from runnin around the maps tryin to wake up all the mornin people. When you’re runnin defense, it’s easy to see blue wipin off us on one map and green wipin off on on another map and be like “Aw, come on, seriously?” sad face but I just have to put myself in the other servers’ shoes and know I’d be doin the same.
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Firstly this arrow cart is behind door, and Secondly WTF RANGE and lastly it was dealing 1.3k damage per hit.
You’re a girl again?
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Yay drama! Moar pls..
AD you are baddie zergers… I smoke all of you every time 2-3-4-5 vs 1.. l2lift pls.
No one is as unimpressed as XOXO!
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I have discussed the behaviour of one of our members with the other leaders of SPCA, and we have come to the conclusion that Teivospy/Kevin has been kicked from SPCA as we do not condone her actions.
I am sorry for any of those that have been hurt by her behaviour.
In moving forward, I request that everyone stop bad mannering each other. We are playing this game to have fun and while SPCA does get zerged by AD, I have told the remaining members to knock it off.
Kickin people is always an unfortunate last resort but applaud makin a principled stand for good manners.
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I finally found you in game RoB >.>
Hah that was you!
(I hope you enjoyed my line of warding)Nice T3 SM you have there.
Shame if something were to....happen to it
Oh my gosh! Who kicked you to space?
Baby have I ever told you the story of how I’m an astronaut.
No?
Well how about dinner this Friday and I’ll take you out of this world.-waits for grumpy mod to remove this post-
(This is not a dating site uhurr)thinks about it
How about DR Hills 20 min after reset? I’ll even wear a tie and bring flowers.
Gurl u kno i dun go to reset. Thats when all the PvE baddies come out, I could catch a disease or something.
And you can only play my guitar if you bring some friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4phH8xBurs
I’m not sure my friends know how to do it right
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I finally found you in game RoB >.>
Hah that was you!
(I hope you enjoyed my line of warding)Nice T3 SM you have there.
Shame if something were to....happen to it
Oh my gosh! Who kicked you to space?
Baby have I ever told you the story of how I’m an astronaut.
No?
Well how about dinner this Friday and I’ll take you out of this world.-waits for grumpy mod to remove this post-
(This is not a dating site uhurr)
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How about DR Hills 20 min after reset? I’ll even wear a tie and bring flowers.
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1) One common misconception I read here is that players in higher tiers are less skilled than players from lower tiers. Now this might be true on a personal basis. However in terms of teamwork, organization and tactics, it is much better in higher tiers.
Here is a video to demonstrate. Our 20 men zerg wiped a much bigger 60 men enemy zerg.
You only get these kind of fights, organization, teamwork and tactics at higher tiers.
If smaller scales fights with less lag is your cup of tea, then yes that would be a good reason. But I do not agree that higher tier WvWers are worst players than lower tier WvWers.
2) Another common misconception is that there is massive queues in higher tiers. Back when I was with SBI in its prime, rarely did I queue for more than 15 minutes. Now in Kaineng, during our reset we would have a 10 minute queue on certain maps. Other than that Kaineng rarely has a queue of over 5 minutes during weekdays, and often no queue at all anywhere.
Of course this varies from server to server, and time zone to time zone. For example NA and EU just happens to be Kaineng’s weakness, while Oceanic is Kaineng’s strength. So if you are an Oceanic guild, you should look for a server with a weaker Oceanic presence (instead of Kaineng). Another server, SOR, happens to be super stacked in NA prime time. So if you are a NA guild, you should look for a server with a weaker NA presence (instead of SOR). It just takes a bit of research. I am sure most servers will gladly tell you what strengths and weaknesses of time zone they faces.
Queue isn’t a problem if you look for a server that needs people from your timezone.
3) On server loyalty, you should be loyal the the people and friends that you play with, instead of the server. The server itself is just a name. The server itself is just a machine. So that’s my question: If friendship is the only thing holding you there, why not just get all your friends, your whole WvW population, to transfer with you?
4) PvE and dungeons pays more than enough for transfers.
1) I agree organization on a larger scale is better in the higher tiers but that doesn’t mean we’re not challenging ourselves in the lower tiers. You just don’t have 100+ people guilds that theorycraft builds. In the lower tiers, people theorycraft roaming builds and 5 mans. That’s what people here want and no one needs to theorycraft 20 man zergs ‘cause the fights here don’t call for it. I can play 24 hours without runnin into a 60 person zerg. That’s one reason I think Agg got bored and left. No one needs Agg to cap recap empty camps.
2) I never queue and you can’t really improve on that.
3) It’s just a decision on what you want your community to be. If you want your community to be as big as your guild, then the other people in the server don’t matter. If you want to make the server your community, then you can’t transfer everyone off. Tier 3 is a random number. If you made this thread a month ago when Kaineng was in tier 2, would you be asking why is anyone in tier 3 or below? If you had known ahead of time Stormbluff Isle was only droppin to tier 3, would you have stayed on it?
At the end of the day how I improve myself as a player don’t matter what tier I’m on. If I’m a drama magnet who starts up kitten and can’t get along with anyone in my server, I’m gonna be a drama magnet who starts up kitten and can’t get along with anyone on my server on another server too. Very few problems fix themselves by transferrin servers.
4) kitten PvE and dungeons and Fractals. There are people in WvW who aren’t respawning.
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I finally found you in game RoB >.>
Hah that was you!
(I hope you enjoyed my line of warding)Nice T3 SM you have there.
Shame if something were to....happen to it
Oh my gosh! Who kicked you to space?
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There are tons of people who fit your definition of hardcore WvW in the lower tiers. Fights are a lil’ different, is all. Buildin a community is more rewardin than hoppin between servers lookin for one. At the end of the day, I’m only playin against myself anyway.
Coverage is a moot point. You only need to have as much coverage as your tier does (which means tier 1 doesn’t have better coverage than any tier really. That’s why they whine more about coverage than anyone else).
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Party at DR borderlands tonight =)
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DR can zerg all they want. as long as you have atleast half their numbers (maybe a few less) you should be able to push them from anywhere.
No, I think you’re just bein silly, Apo.
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Yes, experiences vary quite a lot just depending on where you are and at what time you play. As I’ve said, we’ve had more fights against 30+ than any matchup we have had in a few months. But, note that I’m not on the forums complaining about that because I think it’s been that way for good reasons.
1) The matchup is close and people are motivated to come out
2) Both NSP and GoM fight in the open field FAR more than the other servers we’ve fought recently.So, while there might be increased numbers at least those numbers don’t hide in freaking towers all night long. There have been some really challenging fights in this tier.
The tiers above us are full of zergs that nuthug on towers and keeps.
It has been a good week. Seems we have had a few less people since the new dungeon came out, but I’m sure GoM and DR have as well. Seems like it can go any way each week.
Btw, no idea who your GC thief is but holy crap… Only person that has ever done that to me and burst me down in 2 secs. It was outside of QL in EB almost had one thief down then wham backstabbed and burst. Just wanted to give him props.
PS I realllly reallllly hate the new AC’s. still bitter….
Cheer up.
From Devon:
“Firstly, when siege weapons were originally created, they had the intent of being really good at some things and not so good at others. The arrow cart is intended to be the anti-personal siege weapon. It is intended that arrow carts are all about controlling an area through damage. If you remain in the area that is being hit by the arrow cart, you will die. You can however, move out of the space and/or find a new way to attack the intended target. That being said, they are not intended to be so good against other siege weapons and we are in the process of addressing that right now. We are also addressing their range when upgraded to be more in line with the range of ballistas.”
and
“To be a little clearer. The fixes to arrow carts will be coming quickly. We are already putting those in and testing them. Those should bring them more in line with what we expect them to be.”
from
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Arrowcarts-merged/page/33#post1955552
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Arrowcarts-merged/page/34#post1955651
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Zerg is a word based on proportions.
1v5 = zerg
2v10=zerg
5v15=zergI know it has been adulterated given the idea that zerging is a play style, not a number, but what most people refer to the word nowadays is the proportion, not the skill level.
Even if you are great at playing your class, have a large group build and your group of 15 rolls absolutely everyone else with equal or higher numbers, even if you don’t just press 1 and actually put effort into fighting large scale battles, you will be considered a zerg based on proportion.
Learn to not take offense to it, because you know who is better in equal fights when you come out the other end alive.
Fair enough, I can understand how it would be interpreted that way. In fact, I’ve probably used the term for groups that size for that same reason. I was mostly just pointing out how happy I am to be in a tier without a ton of 30-50 player zergs running around all the time.
Didn’t mean to sound like I was taking offense, to it. You’re right though, I’m sure a lot of people do take offense to being called a zerg, regardless of how it’s intended.
I’ve seen far more 30-50 man groups in this matchup than in any of the previous matchups we’ve had over the past few months.
Tier 7 for zergiest tier.
Gate of Madness
Honeybuns in back baby
No doubt the 2nd reason we’ve pulled into the lead.
The first is obviously ARM.
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