Guild Wars 2

Probably wont get a response on this sadly. Hopefully it will be something they fix November 15.

Because it is considered the hardest dungeon. Meaning that by then you should have your kitten together and be able to figure out sigils for yourself like a grown up. I have a full Arah set and a full CoF set, which do you think I worked harder for? Don’t take things so literally, I never said it was endgame -.- It is however, considered an end-dungeon because it takes the longest to get a set from, meaning many people will leave it till last.

Market manipulation doesn’t exist!

Correct, Arah gear has no sigils, likely they know that by now you will want to choose your own sigils for your end dungeon set. Ihavent heard about it being a bug from anyone yet. As for me, well I skinned my Arah set over the AC set for those stats :P

Malediktus.9250:

Dawn at 400g already.

There I was thinking it was in my reach >_< back to the grinding stone!

Tip for you- probably mentioned above: Stability, Teleport skill, stun breaker, Aegis.
Don’t worry, AC get’s easier the more you do it.

Ruien.9506:

Robert lost me at ranger doing great dps. I started gw2 as a ranger. Got tired of all the nerfs with the sb nerf being the last straw. I have my dungeon master title,3200 achievement points(only 62 being salvage points) and I have 3 characters all in full exotic everything. The ranger is by far the lowest dps of the 3 characters. Warrior,ranger,thief. I have been in the top 5 guilds world wide in every game I have played.

I list all of that not trying to be elitist but rather to give some background and support of my next comment.

You are out of your mind if you think the ranger currently brings anything to a dungeon group that any other class cant do better be it dps or control. In a LOT of circumstances the ranger is actually a detriment to the group. Dont believe me? Do the captain in Arah path 2 with a pet who doesnt get behind a box. Do subject alpha where the pet can and will kill people because it gets its own set of ae circles. Basically, I can go on and list multiple ways the ranger is a detriment to a group. Sure, you can work around these detriments, but why bother when you can bring any other class and get more from them as far as synergy,dps,and group utilities?

It all boils down to….. you devs wont ever put in a meter because the sheer imbalance of the classes would be recognized by the average joe.

I feel your pain
But there is gonna be a ranger skill update soon!
You know there is one dungeon that ranger is actually awesome in though- Twilight Arbor. I gotta say. I have 3 chars I can take in there- Guardian, Mesmer and Ranger and surprisingly I prefer my ranger simply because Guardian=poor ranged DPS, Mesmer=Squishy, Ranger= good ranged DPS + pet wolf that can fear and ranged pet. And an AoE cure condtions+regen healing spring. Factor in everytime I switch pets I get quickness it’s pretty nice for there. Ranged kill blossoms, ranged kill the bosses, bleed and poison stacks on bosses, etc. The wolves at the start? many people (I pug) like to pull them back into the area where the blossoms respawn.. not a problem – That nature spirit elite will res all downed players nearby. Now I agree with you for sure, but I have found ranger can still be OK in a dungeon even if it is totally kitten atm. Any necro is a better choice over a ranger for the simple fact that their conditions are AoE. Piercing arrows just doesn’t cut it unless everything is lined up or you can edge into a situation where they go through a few targets. When I take a ranger these days I have to ask him what his build is and what pets he uses and etc, it’s very sad I have to do that because you really need a setup and skilled player to compensate for a poor class atm.

Anyway: They can be acceptable, but they really need a fix!

Make legendaries harder to get in other ways, not everyone had a 50/50 HoM in GW1 and yet it didn’t take RNG to get it.

I wanna know how many mobs I’ve killed in cursed shore omw to a legendary precursor XD

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

The famous Anet economist was talking about ectos on the next incoming update as a big deal.

Ecto’s use to be 18-20s for a very long time, over the past 3 weeks they have slid down and over the last week its been at an all time low of 12s ish. The reason for decline was probably related to the falling prices of rare items – they were as cheap as 10-12s. They kept falling because t5 mats were falling.

T5 mats have increased since John Smith (AN economic expert) said he would be doing something in the Nov 15th patch to make them more desirable. As such many people started buying these mats (which were as low as 15c each).

Because t5 mats have risen, rares rise with them. If rares rise, ectos rise.

ooh ok thankyou

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

Well, you can gamble a lot of mystic forge only weapons, using those exact crafted trash.
Some are even cool too. And more will be added. So ye, sorry but precursor doesn’t need to be into this gambling system to save our game economy.
Also, don’t forget what devs said about ectos and Nov 15th update. Soon they will be quite useful, and salvage a weapon for ectos will be a wiser choice than a precursor gamble

Hey was wondering if you could elaborate on this, to my knowledge I don’t remember seeing anything in their release for 15 November about salvaging weapons?

I have seen someone walking around with this skin before, so either it’s used for more than just those weapons or someone knows the recipe somewhere XD

People were making money, gotta stop that!

If there is one thing I can say I have noticed, it’s that people don’t like doubling up on mesmers in a pug dungeon so much as they do doubling up on other classes. Sometimes when I am recruiting and I end up with a mesmer in the group, another will join and then leave saying they dont want to double up, other times I will have 2 mesmers in party and people will join, see the 2 mesmers and go ‘oh god this will take forever’ and then leave.
Taking multiple mesmers can be a mixed bag of results, if you know the mesmers, if they are skilled and have excellent gear, then you can pull it off no problems. But if you are pugging and you take two random mesmers you have never played with before you are taking a chance. Just last night I had a mesmer who insisted on only using a staff and another mesmer who didn’t seem to do much at all. Needless to say it was a long run so I can understand why people may have an aversion to them.

Your best bet for a wanted class in a dungeon would be guardian or warrior, people seem to love those. As for me, I take any class on my runs, even rangers and mesmers given they are good players.

Furienify.5738:

Nobody will turn down a competently-played warrior or guardian. You simply can’t get any better.

People in tune with the metagame will be leery of rangers, necromancers, and mesmers, for many reasons that would be argued over for centuries.

Really hope rangers get a fix soon >_<
As for necros I would have to disagree, if they are geared/traited properly they have some excellent wells. In my guild group I take 2 necros, 1 hammer warrior, 1 GS warrior and one GS/scepter focus shouts guardian. We just plow through everything in a dungeon like they were regular pve mobs.

Drew.1865:

I’m horrible at jumping but I loved this part of the dungeon.

First couple times I did this puzzle I was a total rage machine! Now I get it first try usually haha, love it XD

ilr.9675:

KerriganGR.2736:

They have to be. Too many people have been complaining about dungeons being too easy and i’m betting Anet won’t wanna let those people down. It is in the company’s best interest to keep everyone happy meaning that sooner or later there will be really hard dungeons while still keeping easy versions around for casual players. Has been like this in every other MMO i have played.

uh huh… I’m just going to nod my head and not derail this any further.

@ Greg, Gurrrdyan has been so much fun for me that I’ve been completely neglecting all my Alts which is something I never had an issue with in GW1 or any other MMO. If someone’s not having fun on them, I think it’s because they just don’t quite get the whole Consecrations // Battlefield-Architect playstyle with heavy weapon swapping …or they just hate ground targeting or something… (and can’t do it accurately or fast enough). I notice it also takes a while to adapt to releasing one’s virtues more liberally.

Exactly, one of the things I have noticed with almost every pug guardian I have taken is that they don’t pop their virtues even once, I even saw someone use renewed focus without popping virtues before or after. When I asked why he did this he said he wanted the 3 seconds of invulnerability because he kept dieing. I have seen guardians in dungeons running full signet builds also -.-. They give Guardians a bad name. It is a reallly nice class to play I have the same issue, I cant be bothered to try any other class myself.

Depends on build when it comes to guardian I have found, of course if you run around in a dungeon with a mace/shield on, no traits, no vitality/toughness you are gonna have a bad time.

Mskapaa.6214:

CoE path 2 took about over an hour to do with the team I was with. Worked hard all the way up until the final Alpha boss, it had a sliver of health then I disconnect. A second later I return to the dungeon, boss defeated and no reward. Can’t tell you how much that sucks Arenanet. Makes me not want to do dungeons.

I agree seen this happen to people all the time.. I think that upon logging back in you should receive the reward tokens or the end chest should stay spawned for you to go collect from it and contain all the tokens for the instance.

Think more along the lines of classes people * don’t* want in a dungeon.

omg it did just jump to 400 >_< I hope it goes back down and this is just a random Price jump

‘good point but still unacceptable for such an important boss. If he is aggroing someone in his own little room, there should be a 0% chance that he will randomly reset under any situation.’

Oh I absolutely agree with you there, just something I had noticed which may help you in future runs :P

Are you LFG in Lion’s Arch or in Plains of Ashford? I tend to find better players in LA for some reason (no idea why) lol.

randomfightfan.4091:

ok just faced him again and he reset from phase 2 with 5 people alive, fighting, and withing range. We were all in the room and he still reset…

Sometimes this happens when he agros onto someone who is up against the wall I have noticed. Best thing to do is to avoid the walls all-together anyway, it’s a bad place to be backed up into especially if u get downed.. making it hard for people to res you.

Legendary status = amount of time spent farming cursed shore.
As for lodestones, imo ( as mentioned in other threads) they should be available through the exchange of dungeon tokens, like the runes and gear are. One lodestone for say 180 tokens or more, people were discussing, im no economic genius but that seems to take a little of the rng out of it and motivate people to do the dungeons more.

I plan to buy mine, but first I am going to gamble away all the exotics I can get with left over dungeon tokens I have no use for atm XD

^ I enjoyed this analogy, in that case I will try exotics XD thanks

Oh ok thanks Lucas. I was aware of this but I wondered if somehow he was getting the lodestones as drops, 30 of them is alot for one set of CoE gear’s worth of runs. Considering I’ve never seen one I am sad

For what it’s worth take some time out, go back to them with a solid group and try again. I am not an elitist. I used to think dungeons were way kitten hard. I wasted alot of time going in there and banging my head against a wall. What’s needed here is a few things:

- Patience
-Ability to watch for animations
-Gear to make it smoother (exotics, what have you )
- Ability to follow directions of someone who know’s whats going on.
- Ability to take control of your team if they are running around like headless chickens.
-Go in with a solid plan and build. Team affecting skills and traits are key here, you are not solo anymore, you are with a group. Take skills that are best for the party.

Now. These days, when I do my dungeons and my guildies are unavailable I do this:
as an example, we’ll talk about AC, the easiest dungeon.
-I go to LA.
- I advertise for level 80’s. Why? Because it’s a pug group, and you don’t know what you are getting. Asking for a level 80 means less chance of a poor player because they have taken the time to level and should know their class and have been in a dungeon at least once beforehand. They will also have better gear (yes this actually does help, it has nothing to do with elitism, their gear will actually help even when scaled downed to a percentage for the dungeon, and they should, by now have many more traits than a lowbie)
- Go on into your dungeon with this group, if you don’t know what’s going on at any given time ( which target to select, what to do at each boss fight, ask what to do. It doesn’t hurt.
-By all means you can take someone lower, but my suggestion is not to dilute your group with all lowbies because the difficulty of the dungeon will go up. When taking lowbies, if they are the requirement level (in this case 35), I usually make sure they have some rare gear on and know what they are getting into.

I have seen and taken many casual players into a dungeon ( some who have never been in there before) and they learn pretty quickly what to do, in the span of about 2 runs of each path they are then capable of going out into the world and hosting their own groups without any guidance or issue. I myself am a hardcore gamer, I do about 10 dungeon paths per day including arah, but that does not mean that dungeons are limited to me, casual gamers can do this and they are just as able as me to complete it, given the correct guidance.

Also take note of Crater’s tips above for your class in the dungeon, they will certainly help with your survivability and ways to contribute to the team.

@Nebilim.5127

Quick question: did you wear a magic find set in CoE for the 30 charged lodestones? I have done enough CoE for a full set and a half and have never seen a lodestone, I have seena total of 3 charged cores though. I did not however, use a magic find set so was wondering if this is what helped you.

randomfightfan.4091:

Still why should stealth be punished soooo hard when it was put into the game to be used strategically? The whole point of stealth is to make it so the enemy won’t know where you are for a short while and for the player to be able to take advantage of that situation. Your situation #1 should not be “working as intended” that should also be considered as a bug. Like I said before, a 10-15 second grace period would allow for more strategical options without severely punishing the player for simply using one of their most important abilities.

Possibly their reasoning is that this could be exploited somehow. Theif goes into stealth, leaving the boss without a target, boss then doesn’t reset. Someone will find a way to take advantage of that somehow.

Dungeons don’t appear to be high on lists of things to do and it doesn’t appear A-Net have a solid plan for the loot just yet, (as mentioned above, they will be more vocal about it in the future) in the meanwhile I am looking forward to the new Nov 15 update for the new maps and etc.

I agree with this also (for what it’s worth), really finding it hard to make money for lodestones and their low drop rate just forces me off to the cursed shore grind when I’d much rather be in a dungeon. I now have lots of tokens, no money, and no lodestones XD

NPC is annoying as kitten. For a guardian this NPC steals my skills intended for the party: one REAL annoying thing is this: Tome of courage. I use light of Deliverance to full heal my party ( up to 5 members it says) I see a person at 30% health, I pop the skill, I watch as the person walks right up to me, practically touches me. Doesn’t get the heal, I watch as the NPC health shoots up to 100%. I watch as the party member then proceeds to die.

Was wondering, have the devs even said anything about the issue yet? Would like to know if they at least acknowledge it. >_<

Well that’s the thing, you have enough Aegis’s and evade time to dodge and block all of his attacks, I have done this many times without getting downed once. Even with him focusing you the whole time. and I might add that when he focuses me the whole time, everyone else is quite happy with it for the reason that they aren’t getting downed because of it to begin with. Bottom line: survival. You stay alive to res up others. or you stay alive to tank the tunnel vision boss, keeping other alive by keeping his attacks off them.

Asagi.1405:

How do any of you defenders justify the fact that it’s anti-melee?
What do Guardians get to do? Oh yeah, run around using a sceptre like an idiot. Any focus on melee goes out the window, because we can’t.

You call that a challenge? I call that tedious.

I have a really good time on my guardian in there tbh.
I slot shout skills and here’s why:
Retreat: Aegis + run buff for kiting.
Stand your ground!: Stability for the bubble + retaliation because it’s kitten sexy.
Save yourselves!: A selfish skill right? Not entirely when it comes to this boss. As a Guardian in this fight it is your job to survive and pull through where others may fail. Your signet of mercy is unfortunately not worth the cast time. One can argue that it enables you to res from range but it also requires you to remain stationary which is a bad idea when it comes to lupicus anyway. Save yourselves will give you another buff to your run speed and a bunch of other goodies to keep you going if you are clinging onto life.

Elite Slot: RENEWED FOCUS! I cannot stress this enough! you have no time to be fiddling around with a book, and chances are if you manage to get something off, no one is in range. With renewed focus, if your Stability shout is down, and you are stuck in a bubble.. this skill is amazing. Pop all your virtues, pop renewed focus, pop them all again, and BAM done’s expired and you’ve weathered the kitten storm. This also frees you up for using your stability shout to help others.

Not only this, but you can get another THREE blocks if you have a focus on. That’s no small thing! It makes you the champion of reviving people. trait into :Grant aeigis/protection/regen on revive of an ally and that gives you a grand total of 5 aegis’s at your disposal when ressing someone (including your aegis virtue that you can pop as u res) Now imagine even MORE aegises! my setup is the AC set and let me tell you, it is awesome! the set bonus is ‘grants aegis on use of an elite skill to all party members.’ so, when you use your renwed focus, every time you get a free aegis on top! you can then time your next aegis (which you get directly after as a result of renewed focus unlocking your used virtue) for the next lupicus attack on you.

Guardian’s sceptre is poor damage. yes. But that’s not your job in this fight! that’s not the whole picture here. You have a whole party in there, it’s not just you DPS’ing him. Your job is to hold everything together, you are the backbone of the group.

Uhm I might also add (just read some posts above) I agree, being a female gamer doesn’t mean squat :/ although sometimes it makes super nerdy guys too scared to come on vent. I do many many dungeons without any issue. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation…

‘You see when it comes to gaming, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down. the screen starts wobbling in their field of view and they cant press the WSAD keys properly…’ hahaha get outta here <3

No problems for me, all 3 paths today.

How about cosmetic skills! remember the mistfire wolf? he’s so sexy! I want a different cosmetic skill for each dungeon! eg. Arah – give me a summon mistfire lupicus! no utility value, just looks awesome! remember GW1, how if u were a high rank in Pvp, u got the deer emote/wolf emote/phoenex emote/dragon emote? same deal!

HARMANATOR.2368:

Today I was offered some gold to run someone through Arah path 1 so a few guild mates and I were more than happy to. This made me think, that there are probably more people out there having trouble with dungeons and are willing to part with some gold to get them done.

So, I’m offering to anyone out there who wants any path done, my guild and I are able to easily run any and all dungeon routes and PvE content in GW2 currently, if you’d like a hand, just add me to friends and whisper in game and we can discuss what you want.

Cheers,

Harm ^-^

P.S i know this thread is going to be hard for all the flamers to resist posting in, but do try… If you your post isn’t related to my topic and OP, then don’t post at all.

I AM VERY ANGRY RIGHT NOW HOW DARE YOU TRY AND MAKE MONEY YOU SICK INDIVIDUAL.

Lorana.2468:

for me it makes more sense to just throw in 4 offhand items that cost 210 tokens and chance at getting 1 of the Offhand precursors, which u can then sell and put the gold towards the precursor you want.

you may also want to consider gambling for more than 1 precursor, if your using random weapons you have a chance at ANY precursor, if only greatswords you only have a chance at 2 although your chances for either will be significantly higher.

Yes I was just thinking that actually, good point :P and as started by Sera, if I use stones as well I will be getting a random weapon type anyway.

‘I just checked my guardian’s farm set and I might have mislead you with some BS lol! I use the accuracy (5% crit) sigil in my staff and a luck (stacking mf) sigil in my farming great sword. Idk why I thought there was a magic find version of the flat.
My mistake aside, PLEASE try the staff, you will love it! Greatsword is an awesome weapon, but staff rules for farming. You will not be the first person I have converted to this point of view :P.
Actually in retrospect, might as well put the luck sigil in the staff too. Sometimes trying to min/max by building the stacks on the GS first is too much of a headache. I think I might just change this on my own set as well.’

Yes I have always avoided the staff like the plague but I have noticed alota people running around with it out there so it must have some merit, I will definatly use that from now on

Oh yes I am a guardian and it appears I have been doing it wrong! yes I was using a greatsword the whole time, it has the MF sigil on it. I will defiantly invest in a staff now. What is the name of the flat magic find sigil? I didnt know there was one :O

Demarc.4906:

swiftpaw.6397:

Nuka Cola.8520:

I’ve done that multiple times but instead of wasting 390tokens x 4 i got the cheapest random weapons (210 tokens each) and mystic forge. Not worth doing but if anet doesn’t add tones of new items to obtain with tokens i say go for it. You’ll be making at least 1g from the mystic forge weapons and i got couple in the 6g range.

Really now? :O ok! XD

When you say stones you mean Mystic forge stones?
and which weps are the 210 tokens each?

Yes he means Mystic Forge stones from the store. You can use 1 stone to replace any other item in the forge, so 3 greatswords and 1 stone will combine. Should cut down the cost in tokens per attempt for you assuming you have a few gold to throw at the cash shop (or a credit card :p )

Oh excellent, yes I have a few of those lying around as well so I’ll definatley toss a few of those in, will save me alotta tokens. As for a credit card.. well that’s what Bf’s are for

Thanks!

Plato.6128:

Don’t give up Mr. Swiftpaw! Legendaries are a total PITA but getting my twilight was so worth it. As a quick tip since you said that you were not making much buck in CS (we also call cursed shore “the office” in our guild), don’t be stingy about using omnomberry bars. The gold pick up buff it gives is actually pretty worth it. The bar (usually 2s or so) should pay for itself in copper drops (usually 50-70c) within a plinx chain if you aoe tag well and have a bit of luck. I used to be cheap and only use peach tarts, but I see the difference. The proceeds add up (plus you get slightly better magic find) and every copper counts in your quest.

That’s miss swiftpaw to you!

Oh the bars huh? yes I was being very stingy about it! I was using the tarts! XD I do think my tagging is not very good and I plan to work on that in between my dungeon runs. Everytime I see someone with twilight/dawn it spurs me on to keep trying thanks for the tip <3

Plato.6128:

Just my 2c – already having finished my Twilight. Assuming that you are going for a great sword, I’m assuming that you are running AC. AC in itself is really good cash for a short time investment if you get into a group that knows how to speed run it (all 3 paths finished in combined time of less than an hour). The end boss of a path usually drops what is it 26s (can’t think of it off the top of my head) plus you get the extra silver (22s?) + tokens + karma for finishing the path. Also, you should have plenty of crap to vendor/sell on the TP. Obviously, get your gift of ascalon first, and then buy any tanking armor/weapons that you are missing (or just for fun/trying out different weapon sets!), but after all of this is done I don’t see why you wouldn’t try to forge the GS’s. If you buy the exotics, your results will be exotic (not rare as you suggested), so if you had bad luck keep that resultant and just wait until you get 3 more (which might also be obtained from rare forgings).

If you are running AC solely for the reason to farm tokens for the forge I can see how this might be painful – a long time of saving tokens for a single forge attempt. If you just view it as a quick daily cash cow with the tokens as a by-product it is not bad at all.

Oh absolutly yes, I have been doing all paths AC everyday for the money at the end, the tokens are just leftovers you know, I have around 12 stacks of them atm, and a full set of the AC gear and weapons so the tokens are just sitting there per se. I was unaware you could only get exotics from the forge from putting just exotics in, for some reason ( I cannot remember why) I thought there was a chance it could spit out a rare XD
Thanks

Oh and grats on your twilight!

Evoked.2176:

Actually the fact that Dungeon runs are more of a grind and not something you do for the fun of it is a glaring negative point.

Tell me those guys that are LFG all the time actually like to do the same thing over and over again? No, the drive is the gear, and sometimes it take longer than expected. Items should be account bound, so multiple characters can share the same item of the specific stats, if you want something else, then of course you have to re-run.

The only fun part of a dungeon could be when the first time you run it, or with a bunch of friendly chaps. That is about 50-50 chance as those dungeon grinders usually don’t have good temper and understandably and rightly so.

Another interesting part of dungeon is when you run Arah, some good fights in there, but then it takes so long and there is no continue button. Sometimes people leave halfway and the rest are stranded, and could just leave the dungeon empty handed. That’s fun at first then an anticlimax finish. Lack of a looking for party function made things more awkward.

Players have a choice? Yes, for pve, no dungeons means crafting, karma farming or 100% map achievement or dragons. A lot of choices? No, they are all of the same category actually. The Halloween kind of saved the scenario as it is indeed something new, but now.. sometimes you just sit at LA doing nothing then log out.

If you like pvp then lucky for you, spvp is made for you.

So the last thing people are left to do is actually wvw. It can be quite fun for most people if you are sync at the right time zone.

I have to say I do agree that dungeons are a grind but not for the same reason, at least for me. I can clear them fairly quickly, the problem for me is the monetary rewards. They are terrible. Even when you can complete the dungeon without any deaths it’s still feeling extremely unrewarding if you don’t need any more tokens. Now I can imagine if people are struggling as I know I did when I first started doing them why they would never want to go in there again.

Good god I remember doing AC for the first time on my level 35 in a level 35 group at launch, I was in there for around 4 hours, had a terrible migraine and was raging at every turn about mobs being like bosses and bosses being massive troll fights that you could never win and telling everyone in my group never to let me go back in there.
‘Slap it out of me if I ever start talking about doing a dungeon again! call me a kitten idiot!’ I would say.

My problem then was that I was extremely persistent, a sucker for pain, I kept going back in there thinking it would be better next time around ( its wasn’t XD). Because I never changed anything, I never changed my strategies, I never stopped to look at what the bosses were doing with their animations, I never bothered with getting a proper gear setup and traits. Death after death after painful death.. This only made everything worse. Eventually I started to notice what was happening and I started triating up and etc, I would advise my group members to do the same and then I would say in the process of about 3 runs we had it down. I took note of what exactly was going on with each boss and then acted upon it and advised the group on what to do beforehand. Now days- all paths of AC take around 45 minutes.

Now I can 100% understand where people come from when they say dungeons are too hard, and I defiantly understand that they don’t have the kind of time I did to get a grip on them, I spent alot of time in all the dungeons to master every mob and boss encounter and that’s more than what the average casual gamer has time for.

I run around 6-10 dungeon paths per day, including Arah now and it’s a very sort of repetitive and bland process when you know every fight and your group members do as well. I do all this just to get money. Why? Because I feel forced to. Because I have complete ineptitude when it comes to ‘playing the TP’ and I don’t feel like that’s how money should be made in an MMO. And because I hate cursed shore farming. This game does not give us many options when it comes to making (efficiently) enough money for a legendary. I can imagine for a casual gamer that a legendary is absolutly impossible at this point in time given the costs involved and for me, who’s a hardcore gamer, I still struggle to wrap my head around it. And that is why, to me, dungeons are unrewarding. Because they do not scale up rewards based on the economy, because a precursor can cost 350 gold + and the charged loadstones and other materials added up cost even more. What else are people aiming for with their money? I have everything else I want skins, stat gear, etc.

SiNoS.2147:

The off hands tend to be 210. I know the focus is one of the 210 items.

Ooooh ok. See I wanted to do the greatswords for that chance at precursor, but the chance is just so slim maybe I should just do focus’s and etc so i can at least make a bit more money. Thanks

There is a way to do this without issue. When I first did this boss I was exactly of the same opinion ‘omgwtfisgoingonsomeomnenerfthis!’. Now days I get a party of experienced people in exotics and we always kill him first time around. There is a strategy. Dodges, stability, Aegis, block skills, res downed player skills etc are your friend. After a few runs you will get into a pattern, you will recognize the animations and this boss will become just another boss. He becomes slightly more interesting than other dungeon bosses but not hard in the slightest. Good luck on your runs :P

Icecat.4528:

“Token system for gear no better than crafted.

Incorrect, many dungeons sets have stats that are both desired and unobtainable through crafting.”

My crafted exotic gear has identical stats to what I can get with tokens. Anet designed it that way. Your facts are in error.

depends on what stats you want, some are only able to be attained through dungeon sets. Also unique skins as well. :P