Guild Wars 2

ITT: Thief complaining about warriors.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Here are the stats from my latest build (phantasms).

In case image attachment doesn’t work: http://i.imgur.com/GqlXBTe.jpg

Unfortunately.5940:

Like Eva said FA BL has been chain DCing people since reset.. and personally I’m not really interested in playing ACwars.

The new AC stuff really does take a lot of the fun out of it. :\

Track.5029:

Have you bought AC gear, and lots of exotics for your mesmer?
I’m thinking about doing this, but afraid it would be a waste cause of their so small, thats why im thinking abut rerolling into a human :/
Cause if i buy AC gear for my mesmer, it will be my main, and i will also save up for a legendary..

I have full exotics and one ascended amulet. As for weapons being too small, I don’t usually find it to be a problem as looks come secondary to my performance in PVP. Albeit it can be annoying sometimes, but most times I just overlook it and realize how awesome asura are as mesmers :p

Never had the chance to get more than one up at any given time, but this is good to hear if it really is a recent bugfix.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Sometimes the stealth animation will fail to render on your character. You will have the stealth buff, but look visible as normal. This is a client-side glitch, and does not actually show up to other players.

Pretty much this. Also make sure you’re not running Runes of the Air. The (6) ability when it procs will trigger a revealed debuff.

EDIT: Oops, someone already mentioned runes of the air.

Ansau.7326:

If you can afford divinity runes, go for them. They give you a bit lower, but constant dps, so in general their global dps is similar to eagle. Moreover, you gain more survivability.

About high level fractals, it’s out of my reach, since my lvl is 9 xd But for what I’ve seen, some people go full glass cannon. They argue that you will die no matter what, so it’s better to maximize your damage. Right the opposite you were told XD.

Ruby orbs are far superior to divinity runes if you’re looking to maximize effective damage output. Also a LOT cheaper.

Just my two cents.

It’s not the build, it’s how you play it.

/thread.

oZii.2864:

CONFIRMED::

Go to mists 2 krait, 2 afflicted, 2 centuar 9 sec bleed from sharper images!!

This is awesome

Ooooo! This could be interesting…

A good guardian will wreck a good warrior. If you really think guardian is “destroyed” after this last patch, you know nothing about the current state of sPVP (and even WvW).

Benji.9203:

wookie.8934:

Here’s what my asura mesmer looks like:

^ Anyone know what color that is?
Edit: the blue/gray color

It’s Deep Glacial Sky and Celestial.

Zoser.7245:

Again, and again, and again the same question. Have you read the tons of posts with the same question before post one more?

When I play other professions i don’t have problems to dealing with mesmers. The question is… Are they stopping to think even half a second or one what they should do? What strategy? Or what skill use to disable the mesmer? I’m not sure. Usually when I play my mesmer against others i can see chains of skills without any sense.

If someone is hitting twenty keys waiting to do something against a good mesmer, the best thing that he can do is leave the combat and do something more profitable.

Some times is better take a minute and think what are you doing. I can’t understand why “mermers” come here to ask about how OP we are, claiming that be need be nerfed. I’m starting to think they are frustrated players unable to beat a mesmer with half a brain.

Some months before were a lot of balancing issues, but today i see the game rather polished, although, of course, there are still things to fix.

But no, I don’t think that mesmers are OP. The only thing that is usually “OP” is the EGO of some people ; )

Pretty much everything I agree with. I’m getting really tired of seeing threads like this.

Been having a blast tonight with TC and DB. Here’s to a great week!

Been running a phantasm build that I’ve been using for quite a while now (2 months) for small ops stuff. Works very well for me for smaller skirmishes.

Here’s what my asura mesmer looks like:

Wow that’s messed up.

By having any expectations at all, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

Sad, but true.

Andy.9137:

wookie.8934:

Issues.5789:

Wick.1280:

So FA should go to T3? Fair enough. We will do our best to see that you do.

And when FA is there you can blame guilds like [ONI]

You do realize that ONI is a TC guild right LOL? Continue posting you’re making yourself sound very intelligent.

There are actually a few members on FA, although they may have originated on TC.

Jus’ sayin’.

There are VERY few members…like 3 or 4 at the most (including me). Mostly just part of ONI to communicate easier to organize duels with each other. We don’t actually represent ONI as part of FA. They are very much TC :P

No worries, I’m not trying to stir anything up.

Issues.5789:

Wick.1280:

So FA should go to T3? Fair enough. We will do our best to see that you do.

And when FA is there you can blame guilds like [ONI]

You do realize that ONI is a TC guild right LOL? Continue posting you’re making yourself sound very intelligent.

There are actually a few members on FA, although they may have originated on TC.

Jus’ sayin’.

Mif.3471:

CAA.9653:

Good times in TC’s keep. its so cozy in EB =D

Good job with the 10+ golems. Brilliant idea to use a broken game mechanic.
It really showed those PVP “skillz” you like to brag about.

TC complaining about broken game mechanics.

Wat.

Usagi.4835:

If you couldn’t tell, my post was a parody.

4 AM for me. My apologies.

Necros play a quintessential role in any tactical zerg vs. zerg situation – especially condition-mancers (marks, wells, plague-form). If you’re going to do larger battles, I highly recommend giving wells a try (targetted ones, at that) and have a staff ready.

Necros should not be underestimated in these sorts of battles. My prediction is a lot more will be showing up after the confusion nerf.

Most mesmers would kill for a signet like that.

Be happy.

MIrra.3604:

PistolWhip.2697:

@Blackbeard

Take this from an experienced player with a thief…. Prepare to be dominated by good guardians. Unless you play very smart and patiently, any guardian you meet worth his salt that’s anti-melee will demolish you. So many blocks/blinds/CC…eugh… Good luck though.

Take this from an experienced player with a thief. If a guardian ever stomps you 1v1, you’re doing somethign wrong.

Yup. That would be deciding to engage with a guardian 1v1.

Besetment.9187:

wookie.8934:

Know what I love? The lack of smack talk between FA and DB.

Ohhhh just wait until the honeymoon is over. It always starts out great and then 3 weeks later…

Wheres my dinner?
Its your turn to change the nappies.
You used to give us good fights, now you just lay down and die.

I’m filing for a divorce.

Don’t be such a Debbie Downer you Negative Nancy. :P

Vash.9183:

Awesome fighting going on ever since reset. Glad to see everyone so pumped up.

Keep up the good work!

Tell J E R I C O a former MERC member from SOS back in the day says hello!

Got a ticket off my first chest that I got a key for with gold.

Works for me.

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

I run rune of the air also, and can confirm this is the reason your mass invis fails. Personally I think Anet should fix this.

Also confirmed. I stopped running runes of the air for this exact reason (I use Beryl Orbs now).

Know what I love? The lack of smack talk between FA and DB. Know what’s even better though? The amazing fights we’ve been having this weekend.

With fights like these, PPT is the last thing on my mind.

Keep bringing it DB. I love fighting you guys!

PredatoR.5247:

Quenta.2978:

PredatoR.5247:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDId_xEs7oA

Our reset against you folks. Wonderfully fun fights just like tonight! Keep it up! Fun to see fights from another perspective. Been a blast to everyone actually, fun reset weekend so far!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUNmwGzHSmQ

yes was fun, atm BT is the guild to fight for us here in t2, is there any other FA guild I should look to fight as well?

HOPE and VK, I’m betting.

theCOREYCOLAK.5698:

As a Mesmer, I rely entirely on having clones up and using decoy to blend in to survive. But as of late, I’ve noticed a bug that needs to be fixed asap. Rangers pets, and other AI will not break aggro from you when entering stealth.

Now I don’t need to go into detail to explain how frustrating this can be in small group WvW situations. I don’t have much invis as a mesmer (well, arguably) but when i do use it, I don’t want to have everything instantly pick me out of a group as soon as I come out of invis.

Are the pets attacking you while you’re in stealth or immediately after you exit stealth? If the latter, I can see that as intended.

Ever try using phantasms on a thief who has allies nearby? Same thing applies.

HunterP.6102:

I know this may not be popular but I’ve started to get sick of portals.

Portal as it is has two uses.

1. For the mesmer in the group to do all the jumping and work while the rest of the team eat crisps and drink coke till he’s done.

2. To cheat the game i.e. The fractals where you return the whisps (Swampland Fractal), why bother learning how to get back when you can just use portal.

I’m getting pretty bored of every fractal or dungeon I’m in just boils down to “Do a portal mes!”

I learnt to jump and avoid attacks while the other classes got fat and lazy.

Discuss..

I wouldn’t remove it, but certainly limit its uses in dungeons. In pvp, it can be a game-changer.

Osicat.4139:

Hi

As wvwvw turning atm organiced groups lost a strong tool to be effective versus number 1 spamming blobs. I undertsand it felt unfair that one class would be the only to carry a tool to counter enemy zergs. Even if its sad to lost several viable and fun build and see two 1 h weps become unviable I have some understanding of the other classes, frustartion.

Still as it looks now the mindless blobbing gets close to impossible to counter unless you have a simmilar blob of nr 1 spammers.

To keep wvwvw interesting its time to remove the AOE cap, this would force guilds to use more advanced tactics, spread the attacking force over a wider field and use a front force and a defending tail instead of one big pile. A smaler force would be able to keep a larger in chocke points ala 300 style and the terrain would have bigger impact.

It would also be a reason to use long distance aoe forces and keep em guarded in the back or on high ground versus big enemy teams.

/Osicat

Agreed.

Using warrior mobility as a means of arguing your point is kind of moot considering how bad warriors are right now in terms of meta. Like, really bad.

This new patch could change that though.

Amins.3710:

We will no longer be the player to make the initial push into enemy lines.

Last I checked, Warriors we’re supposed to be the ones opening the battle, IIRC.

MiLkZz.4789:

Yorek Vrasen.7034:

inb4 moderators hit this kitten.

But seriously, Confusion was not overpowered. People just need to not have “1” on auto-attack and, oh I dunno, pay attention to the little icons that pop up on your character.

Also, why are they removing blocking treb shots? It actually took coordination to do that as well….weeeeee

Decent mesmer group, locate commander, place 25stack of confusion, commander uses 1 skill, boom he is dead. Nope, not overpowered at all.

If there’s a commander idiotic enough to use any skill with 25 stacks of confusion, he deserves to die a humiliating death.

Just saying.

Bull Zooker.1672:

people saying fear is op. People say stealth is op. if your mesmer friend doesn’t bring any stun breaks shame on him. fear isnt op in my opinion though it is very powerful, 1 stun break will render your fear useless and a minor disruption. its not a Learn to play issue, more of a make sure you’re prepared for as much as you can be ie. Bring a stun break or 2.

How is it even possible for a mesmer to not bring any stun breaks in pvp these days? Lol.

Dawdler.8521:

Scepter was worthless before so it wont really change much. They might as well remove the scepter from the Mesmer now and give us something fun, like an axe or something.

Main hand pistol.

I had an ele try to convince me for 20 minutes that mesmers were much more powerful than eles, albeit unsuccessfully, after I beat him a few times in duels.

“Lol using mesmer as a crutch”

Absolutely disagree with this.

Sunspots.9861:

Kaineng dropped tiers, and FA dropped tears, what a great matchup. Cya Next time!

Stay classy TC.

It’s funny. I’m betting 90% of the players who claim they will quit will not actually do so… and if they do, will be back in a week.

foofad.5162:

It’s gonna be a huge kick in the nuts for a lot of people. Kill Shot/Eviscerate, unblockable. Think about that for a second. You get down to 1/3rd health, Shelter expecting to block a big hit and make it worthwhile, and instead you get hit with Eviscerate and killed outright. And they’re getting a Burst cooldown reduction trait combined with.. something else I forgot. Pretty big game changer.

Sounds more like they changed warrior from a joke to something worthwhile, in my opinion. Maybe warriors won’t be free kills anymore.

roostapro.9827:

Well, you read the major part, and that’s what counts.

Either way i didn’t list the classes because people already know which ones

$10 says eles still top that list.

waka.9826:

Stealth.9324:

waka.9826:

Stealth.9324:

GG Anet. No offence here but if Anet decides to go through this change, I have a better opinion for you,REMOVE ELES COMPLETELY. One less class to balance, less QQ, less headache. It is the WIn Win situation here. Oh well, time to un-dust my thief…

Hey look, it’s proof that this guy is just a hotjoiner.

Oh look, it is a prof that proves nothing….

You just implied that ele is worse than thief because of that one change. Enough proof for me and I’m sure everyone else with any sense of logic.

Pretty much this.

roostapro.9827:

I am tired arena net.

We were told “new builds otw” months ago now…

I’m tired expecting each patch and saying to myself (ye, i speak to myself, don’t hate) “this patch will be it, this patch will be the new viable builds being released”…….

Only to get slapped in the face with major nerfs and 1 or 2 very minor buffs with NO new builds being made available.

I am tired of waiting arena net…

Just put us out our misery you created.

(Yes, I know the patch hasn’t hit yet….but either way it isn’t looking too bright)

Sorry for this post, I just wanted to get this off my chest, I’m tired expecting buffs and getting nerfed instead, tired of other classes being the best class in the game…

I stopped here.

nOCter.4263:

TC come over to DB BL, we would love to fight your megazergs.

Can I watch?

Elochai.1280:

Ahh all the comments complaining about the confusion nerf. For all the times you told others to l2play. Guess what, l2play. Kthxbi

As someone who plays a necro myself, I’m actually pretty annoyed by this nerf. Nothing gave me more pleasure than sending confusion back to its source and watching the mesmer melt.

Welcome to T2 DB

jportell.2197:

ensoriki.5789:

ens.9854:

ensoriki.5789:

Arcane thievery existed since launch. Yet engis are alive are they not?

Don’t arcane thievery/bountiful theft (thief trait) only take a single stack for like.. 5 seconds?

Does this mean they will be changed to steal stacks/duration with the next update?

No they remove the entire stack and the mesmer gains the entire stack.

To the other poster mug won’t be removing boons it’ll be S/D. Mesmers not running it and existing are two different things. Thief boon removal on steal has also existed since beta but post-haste nerf the damage loss for taking it is rather severe…engis are still alive. If the boon removal mattered so much mesmers would run arcane thievery as a response to the meta. Even taking boon removal engis have been difficult due to needing to reposition yourself generally or getting nuked in elixer s. Which is a pretty significant change which will likely have significant effect on the engine itself.
Mesmera not taking it and it existing are two different things. As well mug will not be removing the boon. It’ll be flanking strike on S/D.

Also why would engis need to be “compensated” as a result of them trying to bring up underpowered utilities as if they took something from the engine wtf.

Arcane thievery isn’t used because it’s a very long CD IT’S range is weird and misses more than it hits. Lastly it doesn’t always steal the boons you want to rip… The inconsistency in it is the main reason why mesmers use something else… Plus its a 3 to 3 trade

I use arcane thievery more as a defense mechanism against condition builds (cough ranger condis cough) than I do as a means of stealing boons from an enemy. I’ve had great success sending 15+ stacks of bleeding back to my target only to have them drop before they realize what happened. My only mistake in using arcane thievery is either burning it too early into a fight or relying on it as my only means of condition removal. For best results, I stick with arcane thievery, null field, and blink or decoy.

I do agree though that it’s annoying we can’t pick and choose which boons/condition to receive/send, respectively. I also agree that it doesn’t always hit… kind of strange.