Guild Wars 2

Zylonite.5913:

Frigid.6027:

ascended armor stats arent a huge increase, you’ll be okay

I laugh at these comments….so because exotics is a slight increase to rares, then we can use rares in WvW? why not just use greens? no wait blues work fine?

Of course it is a slight increase in stats…but it is that slight upgrade that keeps you alive in Zerg fights….

You can sya the same thing about food and oil. It is a slight increase so why bother? because 70+ vitality makes a huge difference when you are standing in 100 necro AoEs and ACs firing down on you..

Powerful fallacious argument right there. It made so little sense some people might actually think you are right.

Haven’t seen this much focused hate on a server since Dragonbrand few months back, very impressive.

Chris.3290:

The Top server rivalries as of right now:

2. TC vs FA: FA had the upper-hand at first then TC had a surge and became T1.5 and dominated FA for months. Now TC has lost a lot of it’s organization and FA got a 2nd infusion from IoJ. TC still has the staying power but FA can keep it close and possibly win if TC blinks.

Upper hand lol really

I don’t think anyone in gold league should give a crap if FA tanked or not. They got a bunch of free wins and picked up momentum and now T2 looks fun again. Pre-league this matchup would have been over by monday or something, which kinda sucks for everyone.

Quick Mouse.7635:

So much double teaming on FA
You know SoS if you fought TC more you might come in second this matchup, instead of just preventing us from having a chance to win

You must be new to this tier. Welcome. Today’s lesson: if you complain about double teaming, prepare for lots more of it.

oZii.2864:

The sanctum is awesome and it is in the open world just like the windmill is. The sanctum IS good enough until a better spot is made. I think most people are pretty happy with the sanctum I like it alot and there is always duels and build talks going on with other servers in between GvG.

It actually really cool your in there dueling or just chatting a big guild group comes to watch then your like is it a GvG? You spread the word in guild chat people come to watch its like a impromptu important event if you are into the scene. I find it pretty awesome.

Pretty much this. GvG/duels have always been on the honor system/player-policed anyway – obviously it’s best if we magically have a full infrastructure but stuff like that takes time and resources. The OS is a solid interim solution. It’s like a open world pvp hub now which is cool.

It’s only blobbing when other servers do it duh

Winning is all skill, losing is all coverage. Duhh

I think this means all Blackgate guilds need to jump ship before they are crushed by the might of Anvil Rock.

That or OP is really high.

Usagi.4835:

Chris.3290:

I see TC attacked us on FA BL earlier to make sure they could lose to FA 1 on 1. What is happening over there? Did everyone with a brain go do fractals for the weekend?

We don’t have brains? Is it me or does your horse get higher with every post you make?

Shine bright like a diamond. QQ

Didn’t you hear? Everyone has to play according to the ppt-focused master plan grand strategy type thing. If you want to just go onto a WvW map and fight whoever the hell you want as if WvW is a casual game mode then you get scolded on the forums.

Everyone knows that, casual.

FA – TC for sure. We have cool RP-related backstories and histories to go with it too.

Plus it’s starting to look like the two servers are starting to look really competitive score-wise (FA is coming out super strong after leagues), so that’s something. The best rivalries are between evenly matched adversaries.

This is looking awesome. Could we finally have a competitive tier 2? How long will that last before the next batch of geniuses decide to go stack some server? So very exciting.

I tell you the wood is ruining everything

Wait you are saying people are transferring to big servers in a game mode where big servers win more, capture more objectives, and get more rewards? You want people to stop doing it? Really.

It all comes back to the wood I guess.

Never played a Guardian, but Necros tag like a machine.

There’s no way to put “buy” or “bribe” or “stacked” into “Fort Aspenwood” and make it sound nice though.

Fort BuyWood just doesn’t have that ring to it ’know what I mean

Chris.3290:

The FA supertankers are doing very well. I guess 7 weeks of Easy Mode has them itching for a fight.
What’s with TC though? I know you guys have fairweather issues at times but it’s a little early to run up the flag.

I heard that FA does pretty well during the day so FA might go from Silver League sandbagger to taking SoR’s spot.

I’m impressed considering the generally poor quality of opponents we’ve seen from there (I haven’t gotten to tangle with FA’s better guilds yet. Just folks like OBEY, CL, and FtF.)

At least for reset day, our participation reached historic levels of low. We were actually outmanned on all maps for most of oceanic/SEA/early EU (including ebg, yes), which hasn’t happened since leagues. Many commanders are taking breaks from what I’m seeing.

I’m sure they’ll be back though. New FA is great to fight.

TC got bandwagoned with about negative five guilds, so we’re good to go on that front.

Really great movement and coordination from FA side on fabl, what like 3-4 organized groups moving around the map? Super solid playing of the map.

Fun fact – all servers win by having more skill and lose by having less coverage. It works out, somehow.

Removing the scoreboard altogether is a bit of a radical move, but I can see the appeal. People are irrationally driven by having a number that somehow affirms some sort of superiority, no matter how empty that superiority really is. It’s pretty easy to see in some of the posts here.

I mean, I guess most of the others who haven’t transferred to a mega ppt full coverage server more or less understand the stupidity of it all, but who are we to deny the fun of other people? If some sad sod feels good by transferring to <megaserver here> and seeing a big pie chart, more power to him.

Look at all you geniuses endlessly repeating the same arguments about which server is bigger, who recruited more guilds, who is “pvd” in what time zone and who “deserves” the “win”. In a game mode where winning is decided by participation, and where anyone can join the “winning” side if they wanted to. Think about it for a second maybe.

This allows smaller, organized groups to legitimately thin a larger zerg’s ranks with good play rather than just get rolled eventually because the zerg can hard res anyone that dies. I thought allowing this kind of play was part of Anet’s design philosophy, but I guess we need more mastery lines instead.

Oh. it might also convince those people that sit around dead inside hot zones hoping they somehow get rezzed to just release and run back to the fight.

Gilgamesh.7364:

Rama.6439:

Dale Rojo.7485:

Sanduskel.1850:

congrats to JQ for getting the best results without buying servers! <3

Don’t be mad, bro. Because I know you mad.

What’s to be mad about? We got quality, you got quantity, We got SoR in 4th with week 6, and had fun farming both of you all week 7, not mad at all, glad. now I have to go finish my last WvW achievement. lol. Still at 14/15. hate those stupid jps.

I wonder if they’ll give you a high-quality 2nd place finisher since you’re super duper awesomer than everyone else!

Watch out, he’s a serious WvWer. Only other serious WvWers can talk to him.

Very very serious WvW. Much league ranking, many respect for skill.

We are proud to report that WvW season 1 was a resounding success, driving 9048934853 new players into WvW to complete the meta achievement and making WvW more active than it has ever been! Stay tuned for our new mastery line to dominate your opponents on the battlefield.

u guys got farmed huehuehue

no u look @ scoreboard hue

etc

Zephyrus.9680:

Bad overnight coverage means you lose everything overnight except maybe 1 garrison/keep. But usually everything. Just because when fighting at 1:3, 1:4 or worse odds it doesn’t matter how upgraded a keep or tower is or how much defensive siege is in it. The opposing force can just move to another tower or keep and block access to it with their 3+:1 ratio of forces.

TC has top 3 or 4 oceanic coverage. The difference between T1 and T2/3 is consistent coverage much more than numbers. All servers in these tiers have roughly similar power at NA prime times but at other times, varies greatly.

Top 4 oceanic is almost certainly T1s + SoS. I’m not even sure we can make 5th, have to face new FA/SBI to see what’s going on there.

Buzzcrave.6197:

All the non important people are talking kitten and stuff, thinking they represent the whole player base of a server. It is amusing!

get ur logic out of my pvf

blob harder <insert server here>

Aurust.8961:

Samhayn.2385:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Balefire.7592:

Gilgamesh.7364:

SoR lost to TC because they’ve pretty much imploded around the 3rd week of leagues.

(no offense)

The scores from our Week 5 match happen to disagree; and as it turns, data, unlike people, is unbiased. SoR is weakened, yes, but that is not why TC won, nor can TC currently overwhelm us without additional pressure.
We came in 4th overall due to a confluence of factors: TC was presented with more matches where it would come out on top, SoR suffered morale issues and lost some guilds, and JQ saw it fit to put us in 3rd last week.

Lol wow what an excuse that is… JQ has no reason to 2v1 against you. SoR lost fair and square. There’s nothing more to it than that.

JQ had every reason to 2v1 us. We are the bigger threat. JQ attacks us to keep us down and TC reaps the reward. It didn’t need to be planed it was just the right way to do it.

This… i wish people would just understand, that due to leagues and the way the system was setup…. ANY COMMANDER that knows what the hell is going on would’ve 2v1’d SOR.

All of the people on SOR knew this was coming from a mile away, and it was up to us to fight through it. We didn’t and that’s all she wrote. Time to move on and put this to rest.

Gratz to TC for finishing third in the leagues.

Pretty much this. We had to work to capitalize on the opening, but there also had to be an opening in the first place. It’s a good story, but that’s that. Leagues end and life goes on.

wads.5730:

crafting 0-400 gives 10 levels, not 7. you can only get 40 level (0-400) from crafting per char

I thought they scaled it down after releasing level 500 crafting

/pvediscussion

Arena is awesome. I bash Anet at an unhealthy frequency but credit is deserved where credit is due.

Tweaks like repair merchs and retraiting would be improvements, but honestly I pretty much only have positive things to say about the arena. Most of the feedback seems to be related to “griefing”, which doesn’t exactly have a systematic solution. If a 50-man guild wanted to camp the entrance because that’s their calling in life, then tough luck. GvG/duels have always been conducted on the honor system, so in that regard nothing has changed.

(Obviously organized GvG with actual infrastructure would be even more amazing, but I’m content with the arena for now)

Every highly populated server blobs – fact.

Singling out other servers as “known” for blobbing while knowing said fact – eh.

You are right that the game encourages it though. It’s simply the easiest to do. That’s why every dominating server (TC in tier 3 of old/tier 2 of old, SoR against TC 99% of the time) is seen as “just blobbing” by the weaker servers. There’s precious little reason to do otherwise when you can cap everything, win every fight and get all the rewards by moving in a large ball. That’s a different topic for another day anyway.

morrolan.9608:

Chris.3290:

Some corrections:

• TC adapted to larg zerg tactics very well, as they now blob just as badly when the situation calls for it (I’ve witnessed two 70+ blobs over the last two evenings).

TC has always blobbed, I faced them on Yaks Bend a long time ago and they blobbed even then. They were known for it.

That was when TC won tier 3 about 20 weeks in a row, fairweather central and karma trains galore. When there’s only one objective to contest on the map, there’s sometimes very little motivation to split up. It sucks, TC is often on the receiving end of it nowadays, but yes it happens.

As for being “known” for blobbing…every highly populated server “blobs”. I think EVERY server blobs if they had the numbers for it. I won’t lower myself to your level by commenting about your server though, so let’s end it at that

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

yes i do believe we should not blame the coverage, it is with the population, also you should put into account militia morale, commander etc. if you have high morale and good commander no matter what happens people will show up next hour or day for wvw, and when we say coverage that also doesnt translate to ppt right away as there will be opposing force, its all on the commander and militia.

You just said don’t “blame” coverage and then listed a bunch of reasons related to coverage.

Population? That’s basically coverage.
Morale? Easy to have when you have coverage.
Opposing force? Not if you have more coverage.
Militia? They come out when you have coverage.

99% of WvW matches since the game was released have been decided by coverage. There is no meaningful “competition” in a game mode where having more people show up allows you to win. So unless you are talking about that 1% of actual close matches, there’s no meaning in “winning” or “losing” WvW.

This is why like half the posts in those silly T1 threads are people accusing other servers of stacking coverage. Do you hear people going “oh you guys are training your militia too hard! You guys are keeping up morale too well! Your commanders are too good!”. No, it’s always “you guys recruit too many guilds!” When servers start to struggle do people go oh lets go to Lion’s Arch and talk to our pve people and rally them for WvW! No, they recruit guilds from other timezones to fill their coverage gaps because COVERAGE WINS.

There isn’t even anything wrong with it. It’s just how it is. Just that when people deny it they look so stupid.

We strike when our enemies have to return to spawn to empty their bags …?

Many of us really care about this.

Pinko.2076:

ykyk.2740:

Pinko.2076:

ykyk.2740:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

^.^ tc is a small server

I give up.

Everything is relative! We’re small compared to a very select few servers

Cheers for the reset fights on SoSbl. Very disciplined play and movement from both other servers.

TC really gunning for replacing SoR huh? Recruit til queues at all timezones.

I really don’t know how you got that from my post…

If you take a quick look at the Recruitment subforum it’s pretty obvious how “hard” we’re recruiting. (We have 1 guild thread in the first 5 pages. Like 80% of the front page is T1 servers and FA.)

Since the leagues started we lost several major guilds, including two that covered our weakest timezones, and one of them to your server. Our last real influx of guilds was around April (?) or so when the CD guilds moved over, and that just brought our previously near non-existent SEA to “maybe hold 2 keeps against T1” levels.

But sure, we’re recruiting too much

so outside of leagues you are still walking over t2’s and recruiting

unless you plan to take over sor’s t1 spot any recruiting at all is silly

TC dying server

Sometimes I also wish it was as easy as “let’s recruit to become the next T1 server”. Or “lets de-stack so we stop overpowering the other T2 servers so much”. Sadly neither is as easy as it sounds, but you don’t really hear us whining about it.

Lots of whining from other servers though, I don’t know what their deal is. I thought it was all about the loot bags. The more of us, the more of that for you guys As for the actual recruiting crap, I believe our “efforts” speaks for itself. Do tell us how hard we’ve been recruiting in the past, oh, five months and how many massive guilds we gained

Pinko.2076:

ykyk.2740:

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

^.^ tc is a small server

I give up.

Everything is relative! We’re small compared to a very select few servers

Cheers for the reset fights on SoSbl. Very disciplined play and movement from both other servers.

TC really gunning for replacing SoR huh? Recruit til queues at all timezones.

I really don’t know how you got that from my post…

If you take a quick look at the Recruitment subforum it’s pretty obvious how “hard” we’re recruiting. (We have 1 guild thread in the first 5 pages. Like 80% of the front page is T1 servers and FA.)

Since the leagues started we lost several major guilds, including two that covered our weakest timezones, and one of them to your server. Our last real influx of guilds was around April (?) or so when the CD guilds moved over, and that just brought our previously near non-existent SEA to “maybe hold 2 keeps against T1” levels.

But sure, we’re recruiting too much

Neophyte.4985:

TC has missed its wife.

oh snap

More self-entitled people thinking only their timezone matters. People can play and get ppt whenever they darn well want to, thank you very much.

Point balancing is something that should be worked on, but outright blocking access to the game by timezone is rubbish.

Well considering you already transferred up to JQ and it’s still not enough the only option left is obviously Blackgate. Is this like an advertisement to get people to sponsor your transfer there or something?

Wise One.9321:

not sure what server your on but if you don"t have anything holding you there, you might consider tranfer to Yaks Bend. I’m a recent transfer there, only been here a couple of weeks, but I think their play style might best match the experience your looking for.

I can echo this. It’s been eons since we last played Yak’s, but I do recall their spirited defensive play.

As a general thing, defense just isn’t as rewarding as attack most of the time. If you actually prefer the defensive playstyle I’m sure many servers that are more ppt-oriented would love to have you.

ParaldaWind.4523:

Sovereign.1093:

^.^ tc is a small server

I give up.

Everything is relative! We’re small compared to a very select few servers

Cheers for the reset fights on SoSbl. Very disciplined play and movement from both other servers.

Might even be helpful to stimulate player interest. I’m sure there are people who are sick of playing their mains but feel crippled switching to an alt and losing several hundred ranks’ worth of perks.

Just saying many of us really wanted to face SBI prime (like before season when they were destroying everybody and almost went to gold) and if you guys make them disband I will be sad =/

Just let us be happy We haven’t had a matchup where ppt mattered since May this year. For HALF A YEAR we played our matchups with no real goal, with results assured before the matchups even start.

I don’t think many of us really care who is T1 or who is T2 or who said what in previous matchups. We had a goal this week, many people played really hard to get it and that’s a nice thing.

If it matters I think SoR would beat TC straight up if there is no 3rd server that can keep their SEA down, among other things. Reverse chest-thump gogo.

There’s no end to it though. I assure you not many TC have forgotten the SoR forum warriors at their worst, but there really is no point.

TC is generally gracious in victory (whether others take it positively or not is another matter), and I think it would be nice to keep it like that. The very forum warriors you are targetting are either not here or have nothing to say anymore.

Cheers and cookies for all.

Asudementio.8526:

I care because the kitteny attitude that has held consistent and pervasive throughout SoR is something i think that deserves flak.

I think some of us are not far from turning into that.

We put in solid effort as a server this week, and SoR probably ran into some problems as well. Every server has their loudmouths. Let’s leave it at that please?

That does look amazing.

It’ll probably be fine if it worked like PvE overflows – use parties to join correct overflows until a hard map cap. Might be an issue at the start when everyone is trying to get in but WvW populations aren’t THAT big so it shouldn’t be a big problem in the long run.

Talissa Chan.7208:

Welcome to anothe anet fanboi krall posting. Logic: 0 Fanboyism:1000%.
We lost a 10 man havoc team who got jumped just as they cleared the toxic area in the ogres. Conditions and hallucinations gave the opposing team a hell of an edge. You shouldn’t have to walk dolyaks from your keep to the first tower in your borderlands when you own 90% of the map. If theres a yak sniper its usually sorted out fast and a guard added for a few walks, not 24/7 yak patrol.
Start playing the game lad rather than just using the forums to practise arguing with people.

All I got from that was a terrible havoc team, general laziness and unwillingness to adapt.