Guild Wars 2

Tie the vast majority if not all of the AP/tangible rewards to how much you play for your server, rather than what server you are on. Winning should have rewards, but it should be like icing on the cake, not the whole reason to play. Reward people for fighting hard, not for transferring to JQ.

Keep the number of servers in each league at 12. The more the T1 servers have to endure week-long PvD fests against lower servers, the faster people lose interest and de-stack and the faster the servers normalize. Some kitten bandwagoners may quit out of boredom, but good riddance to them and all the better for the long-term prospects of WvW. 6 per league is too few, people will still crowd to the top servers because they will still match each other about half the time.

Leagues have the potential to fix so many problems that have plagued WvW since the start – I can only pray Anet doesn’t screw this up.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

WyldKat.4712:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

[WvW]

I will always treasure the memory of a foreign female voice on Mumble:

chinese? P v Door ha ha ha chinese?

What? It made and still makes me smile.

I had a LOT of respect for how they held out on a regular basis with little back up. I lost all of it when they left to a T1 server, of all places.

Maybe they got tired of all that holding out. There’s also no other mandarin-speaking wvw community on TC during the times they played, something JQ does offer.

There’s always two sides to the story. It sucks to see them go, but I won’t go as far as saying they don’t deserve respect.

Heh, grub helped us defend our (blue) keep once. We wiped the attacking army in lord’s room with the grub’s help and then farmed the grub afterwards. It was glorious.

Transfer costs will not be linked to WvW tiers, because there is a much larger PvE population to consider. The best they can do is link it to server population, which is already in place. Sadly server population is usually not a very good indicator of WvW population.

A way to allow guilds to easily move between servers only for WvW purposes will go a long way in solving all the stacking and imbalance problems we are having.

This actually does sound really cool. I hope this gets more exposure.

Seigfried.5938:

Le Rooster.8715:

ykyk.2740:

Ozma.1950:

People move to T1 because they want to be with good teams so they can have a competitive fight against other good teams. That way, anyone can log on anytime 24/7 and expect good fights. This is what makes T1 so exciting at the moment and this is the main reason why people are stacking T1.

If Anet really wants to balance WvW, they should consider that and craft their next major change accordingly.

Now they are with good teams so they can have an exhilarating fight against other doors.

I don’t think “whose fault it is” is that important at this point, it doesn’t really change anything. Leagues are going to happen, so why not think according to that rather than lament why things aren’t going in some other hypothetical direction? Things do suck now, but it’s not like the players have no way to make it suck less.

Why are you the only person who seems to speak some sense, i thought i was one of the rare species who actually knew what leagues meant.
What’s even more baffling is as soon as leagues were announced people transferred to the top 3 Servers, it’s like THey want to fight doors.

wow i just realized MERC actually did transfer to JQ. Tbh i didn’t think they were going to do it.

Rooster, why don’t you mind your own business for once? Are you still bitter about MERC moving off SoS? It’s been months now, you gotta let go.

And for someone who points out about others speaking sense, you seem to lack it. How does, stacking one tier equate to more Pvdoor? Won’t there be too many people to defend? Sure, there is pvdoor to some extent, but it is far less than in any other tier because of the round the clock coverage of tier 1.

;_;

Because there won’t be a tier 1 anymore.

You have 3 servers with round the clock coverage, who will NOT fight with each other the majority of the time because there are NINE other servers in the league.

To put it in a way for the people who can no longer think outside of “tiers”:

- Gold league will become the new tier 1. This new “tier 1” has twelve servers in it.
- Stacking to the current top 3 servers, JQ/BG/SoR, is basically the equivalent of stacking to the top 1 server when tiers had 3 servers in them and matches were decided by rating. Think super-JQ after the end of free transfers, or HoD prime when the game started, and then multiply that by like 5 times because said super-server isn’t even going to face its closest servers most of the time.

Not gonna bother explaining this anymore, this has to be so obvious if you even think about it.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

ykyk.2740:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Also, if you’re talking about PvD… Currently, the servers with off-hour players are fighting with the servers with off-hour players. Transferring to another, lower server, in most (all) cases, is going to REDUCE their chance of finding opponents.

CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY. YES.

In two weeks, NO.

It’s like I’m talking to brick walls.

I should say the same.

Time will not change that off-peak players are concentrated in T1 servers. Transferring anywhere else will only exacerbate the “PvD problem”. This can’t be too difficult to grasp.

Wow ok so final attempt.

NOW: Tier concept still relevant, matchups are by rating, T1 servers are highly likely to match with each other. Off-peak players concentrated in T1 servers, where they fight each other.

LEAGUES: No tiers, matchups within a 12-server league. T1 servers will on average spend 4 to 5 weeks out of 7 every season against nonT1 servers, off-peak players PvD almost all the time.

Time will obviously not change the fact that off-peak players are concentrated in T1, but it WILL change how often T1 servers match against each other, which is DIRECTLY linked to the “PvD problem”. The off-peak players (or players in general, really) can either cry about this and do nothing and then PvD every single time they don’t meet another T1 server (which will be the majority), or they can start to spread as evenly as possible within the league to minimize the PvD weeks.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Also, if you’re talking about PvD… Currently, the servers with off-hour players are fighting with the servers with off-hour players. Transferring to another, lower server, in most (all) cases, is going to REDUCE their chance of finding opponents.

CURRENTLY, CURRENTLY. YES.

In two weeks, NO.

It’s like I’m talking to brick walls.

Kimhyuna.1035:

ykyk.2740:

Ozma.1950:

People move to T1 because they want to be with good teams so they can have a competitive fight against other good teams. That way, anyone can log on anytime 24/7 and expect good fights. This is what makes T1 so exciting at the moment and this is the main reason why people are stacking T1.

If Anet really wants to balance WvW, they should consider that and craft their next major change accordingly.

Now they are with good teams so they can have an exhilarating fight against other doors.

I don’t think “whose fault it is” is that important at this point, it doesn’t really change anything. Leagues are going to happen, so why not think according to that rather than lament why things aren’t going in some other hypothetical direction? Things do suck now, but it’s not like the players have no way to make it suck less.

ANET needs to provide incentives for this to happen aka provide free transfers to lower tiers. Not many people are going to transfer to a lower server, spending their own money, to lose.

Why does it have to come down to players spending their own money to fix a design mistake?

We don’t know at this point what the rewards will be for “winning”, but I will be incredibly surprised if it’s something significant enough to warrant spending 60+ (or is it more now?) gold to transfer to a top server and then having a terrible WvW experience in 80% of matches minimum. I believe it’s already stated that most of the rewards are linked to how much you play for your server.

Many guilds moved up to have a better WvW experience (T1 indeed has competitive, round-the-clock action), I don’t see the problem with moving down for the same thing when tiers no longer exist and T1 servers get round-the-clock boredom instead. SoR is having a preview of it this week, and I will be incredibly surprised if guilds don’t move off the top servers after a few weeks of leagues. That’s all I’m really saying – don’t be in a rush to transfer upwards because you want to “win”, or because you want to fight server X or guild Y in Z time zone. Very soon none of that will matter.

Ozma.1950:

People move to T1 because they want to be with good teams so they can have a competitive fight against other good teams. That way, anyone can log on anytime 24/7 and expect good fights. This is what makes T1 so exciting at the moment and this is the main reason why people are stacking T1.

If Anet really wants to balance WvW, they should consider that and craft their next major change accordingly.

Now they are with good teams so they can have an exhilarating fight against other doors.

I don’t think “whose fault it is” is that important at this point, it doesn’t really change anything. Leagues are going to happen, so why not think according to that rather than lament why things aren’t going in some other hypothetical direction? Things do suck now, but it’s not like the players have no way to make it suck less.

Kimhyuna.1035:

ykyk.2740:

Kiff.8157:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Zeke,

I hope this is just a rumor/trolling attempt. MERC is literally the backbone of BG. For Tarkus and MERC to leave, it would be catastrophic. And JQ will become the new super server with unmatched Oceanic & SEA.

FW

Perhaps, that would be the best resort for all three servers? As BG SEA can hardly match JQ/SOR SEA now in terms of number. Imagine BG SEA move to SOR, 1v1 in each particular timezone in a SOR/BG/JQ match would be a real blast. Just suggesting the scenario

Just keep in mind that you’ll be lucky to even have that matchup for once in every 2 months once the league begins.

Just…keep that in mind. If you are transferring servers and stacking timezones in anticipation of a particular matchup, just keep that in mind. Of course for those who are into PvD for a month straight, looking at a 650 tick and feeling good about it all bets are off.

Please stop thinking in terms of tiers.

Why are you telling us to keep it in mind? ANET are the ones to blame for this current and future situation.

Because “ANET” doesn’t make people transfer. People make people transfer, and at the rate things are going these people are in for a very uninteresting time in WvW.

I can’t believe I have to explain this.

This is starting to get amusing.

Kiff.8157:

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Zeke,

I hope this is just a rumor/trolling attempt. MERC is literally the backbone of BG. For Tarkus and MERC to leave, it would be catastrophic. And JQ will become the new super server with unmatched Oceanic & SEA.

FW

Perhaps, that would be the best resort for all three servers? As BG SEA can hardly match JQ/SOR SEA now in terms of number. Imagine BG SEA move to SOR, 1v1 in each particular timezone in a SOR/BG/JQ match would be a real blast. Just suggesting the scenario

Just keep in mind that you’ll be lucky to even have that matchup for once in every 2 months once the league begins.

Just…keep that in mind. If you are transferring servers and stacking timezones in anticipation of a particular matchup, just keep that in mind. Of course for those who are into PvD for a month straight, looking at a 650 tick and feeling good about it all bets are off.

Please stop thinking in terms of tiers.

There are SG communities in SBI, CD, and TC. I would say the communities are stable in all these servers.

I will advise against going to T1. Those servers are in for a very very bad time when leagues roll out.

The matchups are unbalanced because SERVERS are unbalanced. The power disparity between tiers in NA ladder is beyond silly. There is no way to address this unless matchups are locked in all the time.

Now servers are unbalanced because people keep transferring up for a variety of reasons. Easy wins, 24-7 fights, whatever. The league will make the T1 arms race meaningless, because tiers no longer exist and the 3 top servers will not be matched against each other the majority of the time. What can happen from that point is that players get so bored they quit, or they spread themselves over more servers to get more balanced matchups, or WvW dies from lack of interest or something.

Either way, things will change and that’s exciting First and foremost will be the looks on the faces of the people still transferring to tier 1 now, when they realize they just killed their own futures in playing any kind of meaningful WvW.

Swamurabi.7890:

Deli.1302:

Chill out guys. Let the T1 servers continue what they’re doing. Once they realize how boring their matchups are and once they realize that the winner of the league is beyond their control (anet matchmaking will determine the victor), this will fix itself.

ykyk.2740:

I feel bad for the people really. Some T1/2 guilds have been destacking to lower tiers – good on them. Those still going to the top will enjoy the fruits of their gems when they fight doors for a month straight.

I would be very surprised if they were actually destacking.

Lord Kuru.3685:

JQ vs SoR and BG twice would actually be for the best. Imagine if JQ were put up against lower level servers twice: that would be zero fun for everyone involved.

JQ would find this matchup very fun actually.

NA T1 servers have been T1 for 28 weeks, I think they would have gotten bored of it by now like ET, HoD, IoJ, SoS and SBI did.

NA T2 servers have been stale for 20 weeks.

Doesn’t look like “players wanting to move to lower pop servers on their own” is happening.

Are you still collecting data Devon?

That’s why leagues are happening. Stacking becomes entirely meaningless when you can face anyone in a league of 9 or 12 servers.

They clearly have enough confidence in their player base and game mode. After the leagues kill off the droves of ppt-chasers and dumbs that transferred to T1 (with the sheer boredom of ridiculous matchups 80% of the time), people who actually want to play WvW will be left. I look forward to the fiasco.

style.6173:

Seriously, if anyone transfers servers for this league, they are a tool. We don’t even know the rewards other than some lame finisher right now.

Even at this point I don’t think Anet is silly enough to link massive tangible rewards to league ranking. I’m thinking the majority of the rewards are linked to how much you play for your server, not which server you are on.

The fine gentlemen transferring up are just paying gems to literally pvdoor for 5 out of 7 weeks every season from now on. How people can be this short-sighted is beyond me.

no just no

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Vash.9183:

LaMisT.1863:

Where’s all my chest thumping server mates at? even though bg and jq are not fielding much ppl my server mates just disappears.

Not trying to be insulting, but that is one fair-weathered wvw population.

Don’t think anyone on TC takes that as an insult, most servers have fair-weather players and we know it.

I think part of what makes the T1 servers so consistent is that they are matched with each other almost all the time and there are no “easy” match-ups to accumulate fair-weathers. Most other servers don’t have that luxury – a few weeks of mind-numbing steamroll match-ups where you can do whatever you want, followed by a smack in the face against T1 every few weeks while you are still carrying the fair-weathers and just get rolled over. Hardly ideal for building a consistent WvW population =/

It used to be that stacking was “necessary” for people to enjoy “24-7 fights” (this is true to an extent for off-hours populations – you needed to be on a top server to even get fights during timezones like SEA). With leagues now these people are screwed – their very stacking ensures they get ridiculously boring matches for about 5 out of 7 weeks per season. All the stacking, the arms race, the buying of coverage – it is to fight evenly with other T1 servers doing the same thing. Now the T1 servers will almost never be matched together again.

I feel bad for the people really. Some T1/2 guilds have been destacking to lower tiers – good on them. Those still going to the top will enjoy the fruits of their gems when they fight doors for a month straight.

Huygens.4075:

I’ve been gone for a while, what’s the T2 arbitrary win condition for this week?

Number of times your server downed teq

BOOM carried by pve

NA mentality is funny. Look at the front page of recruitment forums – vast majority of threads are from T1 servers, and IoJ who is looking like they will easily top silver league.

It would be fine if the ppt chasers can be left to rot in their own lag infested matchups forever, but BAM leagues. Want to play WvW without being in a steamroll matchup one way or another every single week? Better stack to T1!

Le Rooster.8715:

I am looking forward to it, hey we fought TC and SoR last week how much worse can it get =). Hopefully they make it a re-occuring thing to promote destacking.

You could fight SoR and BG =(

FA would be a good choice. I don’t know enough about DB to comment.

Very long and intense fights with OCX/GO, salute and thanks.

Tam.3146:

ykyk.2740:

We are not JQ or BG, SoR SEA crew! It’s OK to not run in one mass of ungodly numbers!

In fact, if you split up you can use more skills and the fights become more fun. It’s pretty neat. This is the matchup to try that in

If I just bring 30ppl to attack your garr, would you guarantee that TC will only allocate the same man power to encounter our attack?
I love middle size fight, thats why I keep inviting TC guilds to do GvG and I found so much fun. But back to reality, in the standard wvw match up, both skill and number do matter.
In fact when we arrived the battlefield, there was already a sizable TC force led by WvW. We can barely handle that with the combined SoR force. If we split, we die. Dont underestimate your own server.

That’s why I say this is the matchup to try it in! SoR is not going to lose. I think even if the entire server stopped playing now you guys will still have enough of a lead to win! In addition there isn’t even a need to gain rating because when the league starts everyone has to play each other anyway. So yes, in a “standard WvW matchup” when you play to win you should use your numbers to your advantage, that is completely agreeable. But maybe try something different in the dying days of a lopsided matchup, make things more fun for both sides, if you know what I mean

Not that I’m telling anybody how to play, of course. If some people enjoy running into much smaller numbers repeatedly with a massive group instead of splitting off to hit multiple objectives, more power to them. Just that the GvG with you guys was such a great fight and so much fun, but on the field most of the fights are just laggy messes, it’s very sad.

The T7 mat rewards should be linked to the keep/tower cap event, rather than tagging the Lord. There are many situations where a siege has to split up with groups holding different areas and chokes and one group going for the cap, and all the current system does is discourage that type of strategic play because you get terrible rewards for doing what’s best for the situation.

We are not JQ or BG, SoR SEA crew! It’s OK to not run in one mass of ungodly numbers!

In fact, if you split up you can use more skills and the fights become more fun. It’s pretty neat. This is the matchup to try that in

Xirin.8593:

Current PvF standings:

Maguuma: 120k
Fort Aspenwood: 100k
Tarnished Coast: 7k

plz stop map zerging the forums

solo roam 1v1 general discussion subforum???

Well defended by FA at overlook. We were a mess and deserved the wipe.

UrMom.4205:

Handin.4032:

PSA: The dolyak parade will start to gather in 50 minutes (7 PM server time) at TCBL, south of the south camp!

was my first parade, pretty cool…question though was the parade getting slaughtered by a FA zerg part of the plan?

Kinda. It’s like a tradition at this point.

kRAVen.4195:

As for all the questions, the answers are self evident if you just reread the thread. It starts out with Awe (wvw focus) calling out Kome (pvx focus) and then continues to deteriorate the reputation of Awe from there through bad pvf. Mainly though, yes it is just a couple trolls from that guild.

This has to be among the worst cases of shooting yourself in the foot I’ve seen around these parts, and that really is saying something. I invite you (and anyone who still actually cares about this farce, I’m hoping nobody) to do what you suggested and re-read the thread. Maybe who started what would be made obvious then.

That is unless you subscribe to a non-linear understanding of causality in which posts made in response to a certain guild leader’s remark on an entire server are in fact considered us “calling out” to others. No arguing with that type of logic, sadly.

“wvw experience” is such a poorly defined term. What constitutes “easy”? If “easy” means a server can win in ppt then yes, what you say is true by definition. Everyone knows ppt does not reflect anything in-game other than coverage numbers though. Some servers know how to make life hell for the bigger servers even if they know they have no chance in the points game. Some don’t. That could be another meaning of “easy”.

Other than addressing that, I see same old, same old. People who know so much about other servers and their motives, heh?

kRAVen.4195:

I think TC’s reputation as recruiting to push into T1 is totally uncalled for. TC’s recruiting push to me was more about never losing. Yes, those type of people/guilds transfered to TC. People that want to win but rarely have to matchup with somebody higher ranked with themselves. Those looking for an easier wvw experience.

The tears coming from this type of post used to be delicious awhile ago – now they are just stale…

If I wanted to bite, I would say that whatever server your kind self is from is certainly giving us an “easier” wvw experience… but that would be too easy, eh.

kRAVen.4195:

Running, siegeing, clothed in nothing cause repair costs.

Silly, all TC members are rich. That’s how we buy massive guilds for 24/7 coverage to zerg all the things. You aren’t allowed to WvW over here without 500G in the bank, and all our Commanders are CEOs IRL.

Mr Whodey.6591:

I was on TC before you and played Tier 1 anything else you wanna say now?

Seems fairly unlikely considering I was on TC since beta, but I’ll take that at face value and assume everything else you say is bullkitten. Thanks for making it easy!

Mr Whodey.6591:

Twinbros.5372:

Chewy.9263:

I can’t wait for a t1 server to roll in and knock our fair weathers down a few pegs.

I’m a proud card holder of the “Tier 1 Fair Weathers Club” And while I don’t speak for all fair weathers, if they think the way I do, there is no pegs that we will be knocked down to because we don’t care. It’s really quite simple, Tier 1 (against SoR and BG) We wont show up because we don’t like competing for 3rd place or spamming 1 button. And if not in Tier 1 we will show up.

I don’t mind losing, in fact the most fun I ever had in WvW was losing to JQ in the TC/JQ/FA match. But I don’t like fighting to come in a distant 3rd place. Fighting against 1 tier 1 server, bring it on. Fighting against 2, nah I’ll wait for another week.

Such trash…like I said before I don’t know how anyone on TC finds this fun, its gonna keep on happining because of people like you.If you showed up when in Tier 1 you would have a chance, you have tier 1 numbers and coverage but u just cry because it isn’t easy then rp for a week or whatever.

We have tier 1 coverage? This is news to me. Please tell me more about how you know the coverage of servers you don’t play on and tiers you’ve never seen before.

bishop.7596:

Hickeroar.9734:

Vespirisa.1497:

I remember vaguely during my KN days where TC was applauding KN for not spawn camping during our 7 week slugfest(The best 7 weeks in WvW).

It’s not spawn camping when you own the keep. It’s “defense.”

Hehe.. noted some buddies of mine from SOR gave me these Blue was TC btw, I guess the Tier 1 ppl will love your rationale coming week=)

Can’t see kitten captain!

Mr Whodey.6591:

BladeBraverBureba.1052:

Mr Whodey.6591:

Don’t know why TC 60 man zergs need open field ac’s for 30 people…embarrassed that TC was the server i started on, that recruiting rampage TC went on really watered down their talent. I think you should recruit some more you haven’t completely killed tier 2 wvw yet. Loving my first couple days on FA by the way!!!!

I don’t see how our “talent” has been watered down, considering the vast majority of the commanders that were here from the beginning are still here and commanding, but hey, you enjoy the silver medal in FA, bucko.

I wouldn’t want to win the way TC does, I don’t understand how you could think that is fun.people like you are the problem you went to a server for easy wins. All I really want is some fights I could careless about you leet pvd skills.

This is worth dissecting! Considering TC has led in ppt pretty much round-the-clock, you are either implying that

1. The players on your server are equivalent to doors
2. There’s nobody playing on your server

The latter isn’t exactly congruent to your whole “just want some fights” thing while the former is pretty harsh on your friends out there actually playing, don’t you think?

Monkish Delights.2591:

You know quantity is a quality all its own, but tc is just a lot quantity with zerg lag cuz you know their zerg is close even when you can’t see them through the lag.
On a side note tc isn’t so bag, they deliver bags to you and that’s good

We’re working on running with zergs so big the enemy’s FPS drops to 0 and we can win by pressing 1, because that’s all any one on our server can do. Give us time, we’re getting there. I notice we own a lot of stuff now though so it must be working, props to our strategists!

Mr Whodey.6591:

Don’t know why TC 60 man zergs need open field ac’s for 30 people…embarrassed that TC was the server i started on, that recruiting rampage TC went on really watered down their talent. I think you should recruit some more you haven’t completely killed tier 2 wvw yet. Loving my first couple days on FA by the way!!!!

Yea…a militia built that. We then let you kill it before we ran back and wiped you on the stairs to your keep. As for your numbers, same old same old. Enemy always has 200 and your side always has 20.

People can post all that they want with imaginary numbers, and insults at server cultures and guilds, all that good stuff. But those who were actually playing the game, fighting at the battles , they know what really happened. And that’s just delightful

On a separate note, massive salute to the FA force on FABL earlier. Epic defense.

Kingzook.1620:

lol all i got to say is this

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I find it funny and sad that a bunch of people that left CD to a “winning” server are complaining about the ones that stayed. I find it disrespectful that TC feels the need to criticize that way they play. They (CD) are fighting overwhelming numbers. Grow up, if you don’t like it, that is too bad. They bought the game, let them play it that way they want to.

One last thing. You idea of “help” is horrible. I can not remember the last time you guys fought those kinds of odds. So your pity speeches are more condescending then boosting.

Interesting. You seem to know all there is to know about the situation between these guilds involved and are therefore able to pass judgment.

Nope, this did not start because a certain guild leader began by accusing an entire server of playing in a certain “undesirable” way. Not at all, we on TC are apparently just really bad people that enjoy being condescending for the hell of it.

Oh and regarding your last point: yes, yes we have. Interesting you don’t know about it, considering you seem to know so much about all these servers you aren’t on!

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using overwhelming force when you have it at your disposal though, so in that sense I agree with Marquiz in that there’s no point complaining about them using an Omega or whatever.

What happened in the subsequent fights at briar I will not describe here, I’m sure everyone involved has a pretty good picture. Just that

Marquiz.7625

Repair merchant? We are outnumbered most ofthe time, no need to visit the repair merchant as much as you do.

Yea, no

bishop.7596:

Pentzski.4620:

Hello CD, you’ll be getting approximately 10 new transfers sometime tonight

“Welcome to Crystal Desert
Population: untold millions”

We’ve spoken during mid fights…glad you guys decide to join the resistance, best fighter always a volunteer:)

@TC one of the most boring server to matchup in GW2 I’ll rather its DB/FA, outnumbered us still refuse to fight had to squirrel under superior acs and wait for 100men whist everyone else swap flies away. Guess its a good week to start visiting the Queen.

Just had the opportunity to meet you guys in battle, thanks for the eye-opener.

I fully agree with you on the queen thing btw.

nomdeplums.5780:

Ah yes, TC’s superior organizational tactics: everyone follow the blue dorrito. This was taken right before they ran away (A.K.A. a superior tactical retreat) from an FA group of equal numbers.

I can’t tell what the pic is supposed to say. I see a lot of FA inside their keep, if that’s what you mean…

Seigfried.5938:

DeadlySynz.3471:

Some of you need to get it out of your head that you were promised this and that. The PPT is just a simple number that ticks and nothing more. It does not affect your game play in any way shape or form, and you’d be a complete fool to think it does. Nothing changes, notta, zilch, zero, just a lot less complaining.

Put it this way, this method was heavily favored before and for good reason. The amount of complaining that goes on with people is coming because of blowout matches. The easiest, quickest, and cheapest way for Anet to solve it is do one of 2 things:

1). Remove it entirely
2). Shut it off during off hours when these blowouts occur

The amount of people it’d pacify greatly outnumbers those it’d tick off. Most people say they play for the fights? Fine prove it then…

Question is, what do those people do if/when Anet decides to tinker with WvW’s biggest handicap (PPT), do people switch to different servers, continue on, or quit? Hint: 2 out of the 3 would drastically help the majority of the servers in WvW..

So ill ask you again, out of all possible solutions, given the path of least resistance, what route do you think Anet will take? If your game is based on PPt in anyway, your just setting yourself up for disappointment and should probably find a new game entirely.

If you remove PPT during off hours, more than half the people won’t show up. Who am I to fight then? Sorry, this solution doesn’t work for me.

He’s been posting that nonsense everywhere forever. Doesn’t seem to get into the head that there are people who play in different timezones. There are no “off-hours” – your “off-hours” are my prime time. Maybe we should turn the ppt off when DeadlySynz plays instead, I’ll be fine with that.

Seigfried.5938:

ykyk.2740:

Seigfried.5938:

ykyk.2740:

Seigfried.5938:

When will people ever realize that the matchups is out of Anet’s control?

I don’t understand this. It is 100% in their control. They can make it BG vs ET vs FC if they wanted to. Who else would be in control?!

Of course whether they want to do anything is a different matter. I’m guessing that’s what you mean.

RNG? It’s like demanding Anet to drop a precursor when you kill a risen chicken.

They control the RNG, and all aspects of the system. They can set BG (just an example)‘s rating to zero if they wanted to. Or ET’s rating to 2000. I’m sure they can manually change the matchups if they wanted to, the problem is whether they actually want to. Clearly the team does not see a problem with the current state, or they are waiting for “more data”. A pessimistic analysis would be that they don’t care at the moment, but I rather not think that way =/

And why would they be biased to your server? It undermines the whole RNG system.

You are missing the point…all I’m doing is addressing your comment that things are “out of Anet’s control”. Which obviously doesn’t make sense. I don’t see what’s so hard to understand, so I’m done here.

Seigfried.5938:

ykyk.2740:

Seigfried.5938:

When will people ever realize that the matchups is out of Anet’s control?

I don’t understand this. It is 100% in their control. They can make it BG vs ET vs FC if they wanted to. Who else would be in control?!

Of course whether they want to do anything is a different matter. I’m guessing that’s what you mean.

RNG? It’s like demanding Anet to drop a precursor when you kill a risen chicken.

They control the RNG, and all aspects of the system. They can set BG (just an example)‘s rating to zero if they wanted to. Or ET’s rating to 2000. I’m sure they can manually change the matchups if they wanted to, the problem is whether they actually want to. Clearly the team does not see a problem with the current state, or they are waiting for “more data”. A pessimistic analysis would be that they don’t care at the moment, but I rather not think that way =/

Seigfried.5938:

When will people ever realize that the matchups is out of Anet’s control?

I don’t understand this. It is 100% in their control. They can make it BG vs ET vs FC if they wanted to. Who else would be in control?!

Of course whether they want to do anything is a different matter. I’m guessing that’s what you mean.

xev.9476:

My guild leader just told us we’re going to start GvGing/kill trading without armor. That way we’ll get phat lewts AND forgo any repair bill!!11!!1!

So awsum