Guild Wars 2

Well, if Anet isn’t going to give us battlegroups/alliances, what do you feel is the best solution to fix this giant mess? It really does feel hopelessly messy, and I’m not convinced we’ll ever be at a point where glicko OR anet can keep up with the constant changes. So, if 1u1d isn’t the solution, and we can’t rely on something they scrapped or shelved for now… what do? I mean, do we even think that more frequent linking will benefit anyone?

Maybe if they aren’t going to give us something like alliances…. we need to do it ourselves (as best we can)? Would take some doing, but it’s not totally impossible.

I think 1 up 1 down is worth a try, just like most of the things we’ve been trying lately. If it doesn’t work, not much is really lost. Maybe a matchup or two

It just feels like WvW is a mess currently. The linking is creating and destroying monsters as it goes (DB being an example). Two months is just long enough for a server to go full, then get a large population moved into their link, and then lose the link thereby tumbling them into space. Guilds aren’t likely to move every month, so it might cut down on some of the linked server bandwagoning.

It doesn’t feel that you guys can keep up with the changes that happen every 2 months, not that I blame you. The WvW community is a volatile jumble of people.

This particular linking was a disaster for my server since we ended up unlinked and against the giants who did get linked. Right now it’s either wait for a matchup where we are mostly evenly matched in numbers (T3?) or get stomped for a few more weeks in t2, because glicko can be bothered to move fast enough to get us out of there. But here’s the thing…. say we get paired in October. Cool, we get some more numbers. We may be able to hold our own in T2, which is good. But if stuff happens in t1 that causes instability — say a server losing its link and falling apart like DB —and JQ gets that unlucky roll up…. we risk getting screwed and are unlinked and set back to where are right now. Two months is just enough time for that to happen.

lmperdigao.2567:

You guys must be joking that Discord is better than TS for WvW purposes lol.
Discord latency and sound quality is worse. Discord capture and sells your personal info. While Discord also have bots and such, TS ones like auto-verification that are super useful aren’t there yet. Discord admin control options are also way behind in comparsion to TS.
All these features where TS is ahead of Discord are kitten important to a server-wide VOIP. While Discord is great because it’s free and easier to use (I use it a lot for small things), to large scale WvW, TS is clearly better.

Discord can and does allow for self-verify, as we use it on JQ discord. Works the same as the ts self-verify. We truly do not have any issues using it as a server-wide voip for wvw. While ts is better for you, discord is better for us. Just depends on your perspective.

Going to guess here, after running with commanders who do this. They were likely fighting open field, or pushing an objective, and wanted to limit the amount of people who weren’t going to be listening to calls. A lot of commanders will first want their squad filled with guildies, and then with pugs who are running correct/meta builds and on ts. It’s not an unreasonable request when the commander is focused on minimizing the amount of deaths in the group. The situations tend to move too fast to type out, and someone may get themselves caught/left behind/killed because they didn’t hear the commands.

There’s so many other things that should be fixed before they add something else to the mix that needs to be fixed :P That said, I don’t know why people want jungle. I’ve had enough of the jungle. Something different. We have summer/desert, we have the cold wintry mountains, why not something spring/sylvari-ish themed in the north, with vines/lakes/flowers/etc that gradually morphs into the more autumn-look of ascalon in the south? Covers all of the seasons that way

tadeuhunter.2473:

where is US links ?

Those won’t be posted until NA reset happens.

Sorry, but anet has said they aren’t doing any more tourneys. They were awful, each and every one of them. Nothing good came out of it, and everything bad DID come from it. I don’t understand the logic of anyone who posts stuff like this.

If they would have just looked the trends, and saw that DB was due to move up almost immediately upon being linked, they wouldn’t have linked them to begin with. I know, crazy talk. The matchup predictions are posted each week, it wouldn’t have been that hard to glance at them.

My QoL: Something other than Obs shards in the big, end of track reward boxes.

First of all, I love the reward tracks. My issue here is the excess number of obsidian shards I have as a result. They pop up all over the place! I’m not suggesting they be removed, so please don’t see this as that, I’m merely suggesting that we be allowed to choose from something else when we accept the big box at the end of the track. Maybe amalgamated gemstones, or any of the other HoT gemstones like pearls/diamonds/moonstone/etc.

Just a thought. This would let us select a reward that actually goes towards whatever we may be working on at the time, rather than something we may have no use for. Of course, if you need shards, you’d still be able to get them.

It’s simple: just put the crafting stations into the spawn points of eotm. It wouldn’t bother anyone, and you can pop in/out between ‘wvw’ and pve same as before. To reduce visual clutter, just make them the ghostly stations like in the airship.

It’s just a giant mess, really. If you hit T1, you should lose your linked server and close. That’s… really it. That’s the only way to keep it at least somewhat balanced.

Just for the know, are ALL servers going to have their glicko manually adjusted, or just the servers having the issues?

This keeps getting worse and worse, instead of better.

Haha, Hibergate was shini from [SF], I do believe. He used to write those long stories about Jedsus and marriage counseling for BG and JQ.

Yeah, I don’t personally care who wins T1 right now. The score is close, and (with some exceptions) we get good fights when we want them. Like Tuesday night in EB…

Who even considered it an issue that mortars didn’t do enough damage? I mean, who were the people complaining about this? Stop making the game so overly defensive.

I’ve had this error about 20 times this past week, usually in WvW. It can happen at any time, any condition, even if I’m just standing still in LA. I really, REALLY, loathe getting through a queue, or getting onto a taxi’d map and then DC-ing for apparently no reason. Blah.

If the goal was to make it so that T1 NA wasn’t linked, they should have unlinked DB tonight, and tossed their link onto YB or something. Then it would have made sense.

No. No. Nyet.

Why? ‘Seasons’ did more to kill commanders and guilds than anything else. It was a mistake from the start. As for the amazing rewards…. really? All that trouble and hassle for some skins? It should never, ever come back in any form.

If you care at all about balance from the top down, do not open BG. They do not need any help.

Could it have been communicated better? Yes. A blog post that went into the whys and hows would have at least been seen by a greater swath of people. I generally read the whole novella of notes, and I even missed it.

I’m sorry that some of you are having a terrible time in WvW, though. If you’d rather not ‘work’ at it… join a squad, volunteer to scout, and ask for participation credit. You’ll get way more than you will being afk, and you can just netflix in the other screen while you watch a gate. I mean, anet is at fault here. Not your fellow players. You may think you’re really sticking it to us by being a rally bot/going afk/being bad at the game/etc. but 1) we’d have that crap with or without you, and 2) we’re not to blame.

We won’t be silenced permanently. Sorry to burst your bubble there, sir. I’ll rail against these maps for as long as I play this game. As for PvE-ers knowing better how to design and run a map than people who play WvW….. um, what? I mean, I’ve heard some stupid garbage here before, but that really tops it.

How, really… how do you explain the resurgence in population in WvW with ABL coming back? It wasn’t reward tracks. It wasn’t world linking. It was the return of a map that makes sense for WvW. If we have to have this fetid dusty crap back, I only hope it remains to one map…. so that I never have to go there.

Meh. Stupid map freaking sucks. Not sure what anyone can find redeeming in it. Also, if you’re in pve a majority of the time, and voted to keep it, when’s my chance to vote on messing up your pve? It’s only fair.

Soren.9316:

zhonnika.1784:

UGH where the devil is the no DBL ever again option? Nobody wants that crap back!

Poll should have actually asked if we wanted it to come back, not how much of it we wanted. This is a really, really bad idea.

Whether you agree with it or not there are enough people out there that do like Desert Borderland, not to mention I can’t see Anet scrapping something they’ve worked on over a year. This poll is about appealing to both camps and letting the community decide how they want Desert back in. If you dislike it your best option is Simultaneous: 2 Alpine + 1 DB. This way you never have to set foot in Desert if you didn’t want to.

And trust me, I won’t. This will only contribute to bigger queues on the other maps and since queues were already a problem with world linking…. how is this considered a good idea?

UGH where the devil is the no DBL ever again option? Nobody wants that crap back!

Poll should have actually asked if we wanted it to come back, not how much of it we wanted. This is a really, really bad idea.

Even after your explanation why, I’m confused. To quote the person above me:

“Not to shoot it down or anything, but we already have a lot of low population servers that no one wants to transfer to.”

I’d vote yes 100000000000000000000 times if I could. And then I’d vote yes 500000 more times.

SkyShroud.2865:

yea, they should unlink t1 so people cant move there via guest server
t1 should be locked by themselves and give other servers chance to grow

Organic growth is limited at best without an influx of new players. T8 won’t just suddenly get an influx of people transferring after being unlinked o.o

Hopefully forever. WvW feels like WvW again, not some hard to get around/attack blah place of sandstorms and broken dreams. DBL seems like a bad dream now, and I don’t ever want to go back there. Ever. Ever. Ever.

I can understand people’s frustrations on queues and such, but I think we need at least another (or two) set of matchups to really determine how things will shake out. ET, for example, may have a lot of ‘fake’ population, due to bandwagoners trying to be on BG. Once that pairing changes, the linked servers will see their populations shift, yet again. I say just let it ride for a while, and then evaluate.

It was happening for TC players in queue for BG BL tonight, as well.

Thanks, Gaile. It will be like seeing an old friend again

It’s only the first step in the beta. They have said it themselves that they may do a full-wipe, or other such things if this isn’t working. It’s not a forever thing, and we should just roll with the punches until something comes along that works.

It’s actually right after reset, not before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4fjrxt/we_are_the_gw2_dev_team_here_to_chat_with_you/d29mfqk

It’s a partial reset — volatility and deviation only, according to Tyler on reddit. It’s not a total reset of everything. I asked this question, and that was the answer I received. I could probably dig up the source, but it’ll just tell you what I did :P

Well, the whole point of testing a live beta, is that they need people online to test it

Why? What benefit does it give BG other than some happy laughs and screen shots? They’ve claimed stuff for other servers before, as well as dropped hero banners and such. What’s so unethical about anet … like… playing their own game and claiming things…? o.o

1) “There will be a partial reset of Glicko (Deviation & Volatility) on Friday. We’ll put a forum post explaining our reasoning, and listing world pairings on Friday as well.”

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4fjrxt/we_are_the_gw2_dev_team_here_to_chat_with_you/d29h1wk

2) “It’ll technically be a series of three posts. The first post (which will hopefully occur before the EU reset) will contain general information regarding World Linking and the partial Glicko reset. Then once EU has their weekly reset, we’ll post the EU world pairings. Likewise, once NA has their weekly reset, we’ll post the NA world pairings.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4fjrxt/we_are_the_gw2_dev_team_here_to_chat_with_you/d29mfqk

Yeah, where YB is right now, is where JQ and BG were…. three years ago. Therein lies the problem. We’re way past that stage, and won’t be able to recruit to match that level of coverage unless anet intervenes with population balance. So, of course things are chill and easy on YB. I mean, what’s your competition? Doors for 3 timezones? Who wouldn’t be relaxed dealing with that. You’ve literally got 0 challenge for first place.

There’s no conspiracy with trying to stop DB from moving up, I don’t even want to know where that crap came from. A lot of JQ players aren’t playing at the moment. Most of my guild is playing BDO outside of resets or when we feel like logging in.

We enjoy fighting BG, they always give you good fights with minimal AJs. It’s just… night after night of logging in finding all your stuff T3/sieged up x 2000000/scouted is exhausting. It’s tiring, and people have either moved on to rebuild their guilds, or to find a healthier WvW experience. Guilds move for reasons other than to stack to get easy wins. If people wanted easy wins, they could just go to YB and roll their face across the keyboard. IF JQ falls to T2, which will still take a few weeks cos glicko, well… I wish BG luck. And metal umbrellas.

TorquedSoul.8097:

gennyt.3428:

Can we drop to T2 already and let YB nurse their ACs in peace? I’m not paying to transfer just for the hour I play per week.

I think most fight servers/guilds would be happier in tier 3 and below where the capture activity is much lower. Since the fight guilds don’t see any relationship between capture activity and fights, they shouldn’t expect see a reduction in fights due to the lack of captures. I think that is a win for everyone.

WvW is pretty much dead and you’re still fighting the fight guilds vs ppt guilds war, that was argued to death like 3 years ago. Settle back a bit, realize that there’s certainly other ways to play WvW other than ppt siege humping and GvG, and you may be a bit happier.

BG has never, in my 3+ years playing them, avoided fights by leaving the borderland to go PvD empty structures instead. If they want PPT, they’ll beat it out of you… not your doors.

Wait…. wait. So, which players are the cancerous ones? “PPT/PvE” are cancerous, but you want them to leave… so servers who “PPT/PvE” can move up? head tilt

Guilds and players playing other games.
Guilds and players not wanting to grind PPT like it’s still relevant/2013.
Nothing to fight for.
No rewards either way.

Obviously I’m not on BG, but we’re not dissimilar from them. This is the worst T1 has been, ever. It’s pretty much a bunch of players chest thumping over beating a game format that nobody is even playing.

If you think DBL broke up blobs, you should come up here. It most certainly did NOT, and never did. The problem is that the blob is in front of you, you’re fighting, then one the following happens:

1. Zerg gets blown off by Air Keep Birds.
2. Rock walls fly up in your face, totally breaking the flow of the fight.
3. Zerg is – at the same time – in front of you, above you, below you, and somehow even behind/sideways/crisscrossed/crossing time and space dimensions.
4. Zerg is suddenly hiding inside in invulnerable siege spots, firing away.

Look, the old map had its flaws, but aint none of that ^ happening on it. There aren’t many places to fight on DBL that are flat, away from siege/gimmicks. It’s overall unpleasant. So while I appreciate your rather sunny plea there, I can in no way agree with it.

1. Alpine, Alpine, Alpine. They were constructed well, and would work better for the lower numbers of people we currently have playing. It might even bring back some who have left! I think Desert was great in concept, but we don’t have the population to sustain it. Even in T1. There are too many chokes, too many height differences, too many massive defensive opportunities, too many… just… ugh. Alpine would also give us opportunities to fight open field, and made life far easier for roamers. Do keep PPK on, though.

2. The amount of CCs that exist in WvW right now is off the chain. If stab could have its own WvW split, so it didn’t mess with raids or whatever, that’d be great.

3. Reward tracks would be great. They don’t need to grant dungeon tokens, if you wanted to keep those pvp-specific, but just… something. Anything. Maybe wvw finishers, tonics, minis, backpieces, etc. We also need to see a return of the mist weapons that tourneys rewarded. Maybe tie a collection to them, to give folks something to work on.

4. Population still needs to be addressed. We need people together who want to play, and not a few people on a few servers shouting into the abyss. Ditch transfer fees, reset glicko, and let the tiers adjust themselves

1. Kill PPT.
2. Bring back Alpine.
3. CC rework/nerf.
4. Remove the ability to use e-waypoint on structures you wouldn’t normally be able to waypoint into. Like enemy garrisons, and EB keeps.
5. Lower the siege cap inside structures to about 1/4th of whatever it is now.

If it can go back to 9pm Eastern on Fridays, that’d be great.

I’m not a forum specialist, and haven’t been for a long time (late summer?). I’m commenting as myself, so direct the comments to me as a fellow player. I was just tossing out ideas in response to the OP. It’s not like I can make these changes. What’s already in motion, will happen regardless anyway — be it megaserver or something else.

You might think that, Aezyr, but I’m betting that people would spread out as otherwise there’s nobody to fight. Most of us have moved on from ppt; it’s not 2013 anymore. We want to fight, and if… say… all of the OCX lumped into one alliance, they would be PvDooring, and aint nobody find that fun.

We know a fix to population imbalance is coming. While I think megaserver or alliances would maybe fix it, I’m not sure that’s it. It very well could be the merging of some servers, or at least a reduction to that all of the folks who want to WvW can be where this is actually possible.

If you’ve got, say, 10 or 12 servers in NA (for example; don’t get all huffy, EU!) full of active WvW players, that really does make it possible — in theory — to have different and interesting matches. It would need a glicko scrubbing, because holy crap the log jam there is worse than rush hour on I-90.

Above all, there should be alternate ways of obtaining gliders, via drops or a collection. Making it a drop would be exciting, and it can be account-bound to prevent subsequent horrendous TP prices.

1. Zephryite tribute gliders. Wind/Lightning/Sun.
2. Guild Glider.
3. Glint Gilder (crystalized/shards that leave crystal trails and play the crystal oasis tones)
4. Rainbow Glider. We needs it.