Guild Wars 2

All checkpoints ticked, finish line crossed, no credit. If the point was to place in the top 3, the text should reflect this. If you just need to participate, as listed, each race should give you credit. It’s rather misleading.

This tournament has been about 7 weeks too long by now.

Not gonna name any guildies, as they are all my favorites <3 <3

Outside of SF:

Wenova from MERC. Fun dude. Likes to say g-dangit a lot, then cuss like a trucker <3

Stonewall from SG. Such a calm voice when he’s telling us to murder things.

Sfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee because… sfeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Stei/Nuked from DI. I’d follow him off a cliff. And have. And will again :o

Cloud Fly! Yes, I have heard him speak. Yes, he did just kick your butt using map chat only.

Special shout to Lectel. For: Playing the lone ranger theme as we run into battle on reset; not being able to understand most of what he says, but killing stuff anyway; and.. the BG song >_> One of the few people to not only ‘get’ EB on JQ, but get the folks there to do what he wants.

Yes! Please! Even if you can only just make the shorts white, it would help. The khaki is so… blah, and since we don’t have much choice in the matter — though, the shirt would have been AWESOME battle armor — could you at least make them match?

If I hear one more time about how supposedly stacked my server is, I’m going to start slapping kittens. Maybe you need to look at the servers who are both beating us currently? Though, granted, they need to keep each others unmentionables in each others purses to do so, I guess

Vol.7601:

It will be interesting to see JQ vs BG when things really matter.

TC will be the new SoR

It’ll be fun! It’ll be rough all around, but fun. Here’s to all of us getting past the queues! I just hope the SoR guilds on TC don’t stop showing up in week 2 like season 1. That will be not so fun times for everyone.

What kind of issue are you specifically having that could be related to lag?
Skill lag, rubber-banding, etc.

Skill lag, yaks lagging out, workers rubber banding all over keeps. When it hits EPIC LAG, you’ll have a lot of people crashing to desktop. If there’s a fight at garrison, often you will lag at bay/hills side spawn. Also, waypoints will often lag to the point where it appears ‘open’ but it will not uncontest. Or, it should be contested, and it’s not. Lag also effects the use of siege (IE: Trebs will sometimes fire 100% if you just tap it once, because they are lagged out).

What server are you on?

Jade Quarry

Has there ever been a time when you or a friend are experiencing lag, while others in your party are not?

Now and then, yes. I attribute this to my computer instead of server lag, when that happens.

Has there ever been a time where one party in a map is experiencing lag, while other parties in that same map are not?

Yes. Sometimes if one group is mid-fight, you may have a group at spawn or far away that isn’t lagging. Not always, or often.

Do you experience the lag at very specific times? For example, when 1 zerg is facing another zerg.

Yes. The worst places for it would be garrison lords room, and stonemist, but it happens everywhere.

If so, can you estimate how many players are in each zerg?

You know, these are T1 zergs, so they could be anywhere from 50-80 players. I guess I’d average that out at 65 v 65 v 65, but could be more?

ykyk.2740:

zhonnika.1784:

I think the way it works is that if:

Say BG wins BG/JQ/TC and SoS wins SoS/Mag/FA(DB)

BG = 5 pts, TC 3 pts, JQ 1 pt — SoS 5pts, Mag 3pts, FA/DB 1pt

Match the next week would likely be

BG (5)/SoS (5)/TC (3) + JQ(1)/Mag(3)/FA(DB)(1)

Obviously, the week after that would very likely be BG/TC/JQ + SoS/Mag/FA(DB) again and it’d just keep flip flopping.

Can a dev confirm?

Would be good to have a clarification on this as well. If “leagues” in NA are 6/9/9 as before, would the top 6 be confined to matchups with each other for the entire season?

While I can see how boring it will be, I think it’s for the best. Gonna be a long 9 weeks tho. If this is how it really works, whoever gets 2v1’d the hardest in T1 will get an ‘easier’ week every other week (I say that lightly as the guilds in T2 are no pushover, but the number difference will always push the T1 back up).

I think the way it works is that if:

Say BG wins BG/JQ/TC and SoS wins SoS/Mag/FA(DB)

BG = 5 pts, TC 3 pts, JQ 1 pt — SoS 5pts, Mag 3pts, FA/DB 1pt

Match the next week would likely be

BG (5)/SoS (5)/TC (3) + JQ(1)/Mag(3)/FA(DB)(1)

Obviously, the week after that would very likely be BG/TC/JQ + SoS/Mag/FA(DB) again and it’d just keep flip flopping.

Can a dev confirm?

Kincaidia.3192:

no lull times on BG? Why have we been outmanned during primetime on 3 out of 4 maps every night outside of reset night for the past 3 weeks?

Yeah, we are outmanned on 3 out of 4 maps from the end of SEA until usually 8/9pm eastern, when we get a queued map + EB. It’s not just you guys

But, again, that has nothing to do with our full server status, which is more a reflection on the amount of PvE players you’ve got than anything.

BG has been full for the longest. JQ went full just before March 1. TC has just recently gone full in the last few days. My guess is that anet will increase server pop Tuesday — when the price goes up to 2400. That said, there are times when all of them fall to Very High, but it’s usually really late (or early).

Gates/walls should slow down to a crawl when being destroyed if nobody (or under 5 people) is inside a structure. Gives defenders time to get back. No PvDoor! Go to somewhere filled with people? They can destroy at a normal rate. Just IMO. I freaking hate PvDoor/karma training. Go do that crap in eotm.

I’m actually GLAD that BG is out there again, finally. They should win this week easy, setting themselves up in a good spot for the season. It’s much more interesting when everyone shows up (we try during EU, but that will never be our strong spot).

It’s gonna be a knock-down, drag out battle for 1st place between TC and BG, you watch BG is far from dead.

Malediktus.9250:

Lol 2400 gems for a server transfer + 2 week ban from the maps. Did anet forget some dailies are impossible to do on the eotm map?

They didn’t forget. They want you to truly stick with your home server, and punish your choice to leave. If it’s that important for you to move, you have to pay 2400 gems and deal with the other repercussions such as dailies. The entire season meta will be obtainable in EOTM, so if you can’t deal with doing a few pve dailies, well, don’t move!

Meh, I wish you guys could find a cheap way around this. It sucks. I seriously do not have any idea who’d hate a server so much that they’d dedicate this much time trying to disrupt it. I mean, we’ve been mortal enemies for over a year, and even I wouldn’t wish this on you :P Yet, BG is still a strong server and I’m sure you guys will find a way past this. Does it still happen if you’re using enjin-based TS? I’m sure you’ve already considered this, but just tossing it out there.

People go to EOTM?

Yeah, generally because some of us only had a few hours to play at night (most ~2 ish) and didn’t want to spend the time banging our heads into T3 towers and keeps that nobody ever came out of. Wasn’t worth it. The only ‘fight’ we ever got was between our faces and an AC :P

Ben K.6238:

Long posts there.

I’m glad to see some consideration of the bandwagoning issues faced by lower-tier servers – one of the things that often grates about posts on server community from those based on JQ or BG is that they can seem oblivious to how badly a server’s WvW community is wrecked by a player exodus. So far, only 4 out of 24 servers on NA have yet to find themselves in that position – it’s no coincidence that three are T1 and the other is T2.

At the launch of the game, fighting for the server seemed to mean something, but when 80% of the server upped stakes for JQ, BG, SoR and Kaineng, the few of us left behind were left with few illusions about how far community gets you when you’re losing.

We’re not all oblivious to it. I wish there were a way to end it, but until Devon comes out and says “Coverage will never be the best way to win.” this will keep happening. Unless coverage is given the boot in favor of skill, and even matches up and down the tiers, there is no incentive to not leave your server and give up on establishing a long-standing community. This is not the fault of the higher tiers; the blame falls on anet here.

Devon, the point is that coverage should not ever determine the win. Nobody should have a ‘leg up’ over the competition based on numbers. This is what we’re trying to get away from, for the benefit of everyone. Trust me, I understand what the coverage war feels like first hand, up here at the top. It sucks.

It’s not the game I want to play, and it’s not what this should be about. Sure, my proposal wasn’t perfect, but it at least aimed to even out the matches

1 Princess Mia Wig.

Proposal Overview
Eliminate ‘server vs server vs server’ and replace it with Green vs Blue vs Red, the same way EOTM works.

Goal of Proposal
Standardize coverage overall, allowing lower-tier and higher-tier servers to enjoy WvW combat, but on the borderlands as opposed to EOTM. Make WvW less about coverage winning overall, and more about teamwork and skill. At this point, I don’t see a way out of the constant arms race at the top as long as coverage determines a win. Making it not matter at all would help, at least in my opinion.

Proposal Functionality
Well, that’s just the thing. I don’t know how to get around the problem where EOTM is all overflows so can just reproduce itself infinitely to get everyone to play. This would essentially mean that all borderlands maps would have to act the same way — as an overflow with no ‘main’ instance. As a bonus, this would eliminate queue times. You would, as a player, just select green/blue/red/EB as an option, and go play.

Associated Risks
Eliminates the community feeling of fighting for your server. Also, I’m not sure this is a risk, but it sort of really devalues the upgrading of keeps/towers. Perhaps those could act the same as EOTM in that you’d only ever be able to use your home garrison WP — if you had it — and spawn, and could never put your own waypoint on Hills/Bay/EB keeps, unless that was your spawn side.

Dabrixmgp, I think you’d find what you’re looking for anywhere in T1. It’s pretty evenly matched, with TC having an advantage in NA, and JQ + BG having an advantage in the 3am+ area of ‘crap, I can’t sleep’. I feel everyone here is trying to paint a picture of not exactly solid 24/7 coverage, but enough activity during about every part of the day.

BPA is not an active WvW guild on JQ. There’s like 3 of us that WvW, and it’s with SF or SG tags

Most. if not all, of the good GvG is outside of T1, so I’d strongly suggest T2 and below.

SF runs tagless a lot, just saying :P We often run tagless aside the map commander, doing counter offense/being annoying.

When you’re starting out, you get mini wxp boosters in your level chest. They last 15 mins or so. You can get wxp for pretty much anything in wvw, so pop those as much as possible, and …. hell grab 4-5 people and go around capping camps. You’ll get levels as you do, without ~too much direct combat. Have extra bday boosters? Do some pve, then pop into WvW — especially the new EOTM map or if your server has a karma train running on Fridays. The levels will show up in no time.

Also, the new living story rewards you with an hour-long wxp booster. Hop in on the weekend, and go go go! Have extra laurels and badges? Make sure you booster is on, and buy a few levels from the laurel vendor on any WvW map.

“There are massive, and I mean massive map blobs from JQ rolling in EU TZ on nearly every BL and in EB, every single day including weekends.”

Season 2 must be coming soon, as BG is in full MUST RECRUIT RUSSIA mode again. Oh my word. Wiping way tears from laughing.

Vespirisa.1497:

How much more rating do we have to lose to escape the hell that is T1?

Tends to only happen when entire servers blow up and lose everyone (see: HoD, SBI, old SoS). Since you guys just got RISE back (tho in low numbers), I don’t see you guys falling apart completely. You’d have to either lose a lot more guilds, or not play at all.

This is amazing news!

To partly answer Delvoire: You’ll be able to select Edge of the Mists from the dropdown menu/B menu just like any other map. You don’t need to hit queue to access it. Also, I would expect there will be a flurry of activity at first, and then people will migrate back to the borderland maps.

Dragon’s Revelry Starcakes, I believe that’s the name.

In general if you set out to play for PPT, the bags will follow. Go hit something, the fights will follow. Defend a keep/tower/camp, you’re ‘playing for ppt’ but getting fights and bags. There’s no need to really shun one style over another, but I can see why just being like ‘screw this, we can’t compete with our numbers, so let’s just farm bags’ can appeal to some folks. I enjoy good keep takes/defends, it’s a whole lot of fun. I love the strategized, long-siege on keeps. It’s good fights, good bags AND ppt.

Because everyone wants to be that team that just purely uses ~skill~ to beat the competition, and they can’t claim skill when saying yes, we have a lot more numbers than you. It’s not that hard to figure out

SoR had 3 guilds leave, that’s hardly an exodus -_-

Been there, got the t-shirt. This was similar to JQ last Spring.

Thankfully we’re at a decent amount of active players right now, and we can enjoy ourselves out there. We don’t generally see many queues. Which is more important to me than who gets the three bonus chests at the end of the week (reward OP!). Only way you’re gonna fix this is to shed numbers, which will happen naturally even if you keep winning for a while. People get bored of winning (yes), people get tired of blobs (yep) and look for somewhere where they can accept the outnumbered buff and fight for the win instead of having it handed over every week.

Belenwyn.8674:

The WvW-GvG will now shift to the Edge of the Mists. The GvG community has to establish an area on the map reserved for large-scale GvG tournaments.

The new map is now much more alluring for servers with very low WvW population. There will be even fights between the colors most of the time.

Since it’s all a series of overflows, good luck getting your whole gvg team in on the same overflow. That’s the problem here. There’s no real reason to move GvG to this map, nor is there really anywhere you’d want to do it.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Stacked servers don’t deserve variety.
Want an interesting matchup? go lower populated servers.

There’s more than t1 complaining here, you realize? Reading OP!

There isn’t really ‘downtime’ in T1. There’s more or less “periods when one server can dominate” — which in most cases is EU or late NA/OCX. That said, you’ll still find fights at any hour of the day. The holidays are taking a toll on all servers, even T1 — this is to be expected, and will bounce back once January hits. There’s also a touch of post-league burnout… people wanna sit around with their guild and run smaller groups instead of chasing dat ptt and blobbing.

As for JQ, we have our main coverage in SEA and NA. Our NA has shrunk since the start of leagues, and we can and do go outnumbered / no queue on 2/3 BLs. Tonight, we did not even have much of an EB queue! This could change once Jan hits, like I said, but for the most part, we do not have many queues to speak of outside reset on most maps and the weekends. I would suspect the same is true for SoR, with their coverage shifting around a bit differently than ours, and them having a much stronger NA.

My advice would be SoR or JQ if you like fights and don’t mind being outnumbered here and there.

Here was one of our fights from the weekend — JQ vs SoR vs BG in the ruins: http://www.twitch.tv/risenfall/c/3364396 made of a 80% militia group all using TS, heh.

I tried to actually list the guild name, which is a legit guild name, but the mods didn’t like it. I wasn’t trying to be funny, but rather help y’all find the guy. Sorry about that, in any case.

Our TS became more popular with ‘casuals’ when it was used to coordinate the PvE population for Tequatl. It’s never a bad idea to reach out to more of your casual players this way, as they are more likely to see the benefit of it first if it’s immediately benefitting them. We have many more PvX guilds utilizing TS and getting in on a regular basis since the whole Teq thing.

With some changes. Launch S2 with EOTM, make all S2 cheevos obtainable in there. This would make them accessible for the average PvE player who wants to dabble in WvW, without forcing them into the match itself. Work on achievements while in queue, kill some people, have fun. Work people in WvW, but go at a babysteps pace.

Things should go back to normal for a while, until the start of S2 is announced. Then, we’ll see even further server instability as a win is guaranteed to whichever server stacks the most. That’s an ugly thought. I know anet feels that all servers have ‘robust’ populations, nobody wants to show weakness when trying to sell games and consolidate servers, but the very game play they are promoting with these leagues is what’s going to contribute to servers becoming deserted. I mean, where do you think servers get people to fill up time zones? It’s not from new players, it’s from servers above or below them.

So, yeah, by all means have a S2, but put a little more thought in it in regards to your current WvW players, and server stability.

JadeQuarry!

We are now open for NA recruitment. Looking specifically for teams that love a good fight, want excellent and skilled opponents (BG and SoR, with the occasional TC thrown in for flavor), long-term stability and — above all — fun. We like to balance the battles with silly stuff. We play to win, and we play hard, and enjoy a more balanced server experience that combines WvW, sPvP and PvE.

Single player looking to move? Give us a shout, and we’ll find you a home.

Feel free to contact one of our NA community leaders:

Jedbacca
Woks on Water
X Papa Smurf X
Mance Malhavok

Or send me a message here!

Who gives a crap about week 1 anymore? Let’s just have fun with this match, yeah?

FW, Waha is not leaving. Check Tati’s post in this very thread. You know, someone who is actually in his guild?

TC is really fun to fight with. They can come out in numbers and give you good fights, but they are also goofballs. It works out really well. They are definitely one of my favorite servers to fight against. We need to round out their coverage so they can keep rolling with the big guys, because all the other crap in T1 would be learned over time. They fought really hard this week, and I do hope they get the win over SoR. Not so much for my personal server placement, since I don’t really give a crap, but for them.

I’m curious to see how the JQ/BG/SoR match goes tomorrow… what alliances will be formed, if any? We all have a reason to hate each other for the past 6 weeks of BS. Maybe we’ll just say screw it and have Quaggan picnics in obsidian sanctum all week.

The Bear Force zerg last night was amazing outside Bay. We were like… screw it, we’re leaving this BL to do some drunken, last-minute guild missions (after midnight…) and Jed had the idea of ursan tonics. The balloons and kites were optional, but encouraged. Was a lotttttt of fun fighting NOPE/STUN and RET last night. More silliness tonight y/y/mfy?

SF will be beta testing Edge of the Mists this afternoon, so you won’t have us around to step on your throats, TC! Go for it!

Also, karma trains are stupid and encourage skill-less, uncoordinated play. Just say no to karma trains!

Medeyn.8562:

It is coming, soon.

Well, IDK what ‘IT’ is, but if it means you’re not dying, I’m all for it.

Balefire.7592:

SFShinigami.2015:

TC can touch my camp any time.

But can they assault your Hills?

Comment here about TC putting a ram on Shini’s …. Hills.

Pretty funny that third place (maybe) in T1 means THE END OF DAYS! It doesn’t. SoR will be just fine. This league has brought out the worst in everyone, and we’ll see things evening out once this crap is over.